Home Politics We Have Bill Clinton and His Assault Weapons Ban to Thank for... Politics We Have Bill Clinton and His Assault Weapons Ban to Thank for the Generational Drop in Violent Crime By Dan Zimmerman - September 13, 2018 114 Facebook Twitter Pinterest WhatsApp Email courtesy twitter.com Bill Clinton takes credit for the drop in violent crime over the past quarter century. All together now…. Thank you, President Clinton! RELATED ARTICLESMORE FROM AUTHOR President Joe Biden Tries to Pray Gun Control Into Reality Make Advocating Gun Control the Third Rail of American Politics Again Florida Lawmakers are Trying to Pull a Gun Rights Switcheroo 114 COMMENTS Narcissism at its finest. Reply No the finest is Obumer take credit for setting up this BOOMING economy. It’s all about the commie socialism don’tcha kbow. It rather “funny”. The freaking Chicoms abandon “pure” communism in the search of prosperity (and to prevent riot) while the American progtards of the dem party continue their quest of destroying capitalism and turning us to the dark side. Reply Under the democrat congress of 2007-2010, the economy was trashed and the DOW lost half it’s value. The DOW was still down 800 points when the newly GOP House stopped the democrat socialism program. The Federal Reserve had to drop interest rates to zero to stop the disaster…….NOTHING that idiot Obama did helped the economy. Reply That ‘idiot’ was president and you’re posting stupid comments on just one of many websites dedicated to POTG. OK, I’ll be non-partisan….Dubya was an idiot too. He let Cheney run the presidency and sat back doing as little as possible. Dubya did nothing to stop the democrat congress of 2007-2008 from wrecking the economy when he could have at least used his veto pen. What “World’s” have YOU destroyed ?? An anthill or two ?? By the end of our 8 years in hell with Obama, I had gotten so accustomed to watching the moron make the wrong choice, every single time, that it finally struck me that he was *deliberately* trying to crash the economy, NOBODY could be that consistently stupid. Maybe he was OK as a community organizer, I wouldn’t know because I have no idea wtf a community organizer does. Oh, and ding-dong, you forgot to mention a single thing Ollie said which was not correct. I think Pastor Manning says it best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qxss72FziA I can’t say it better Back to the original assult weapon ban claim. They were never used in many murders, so banning them reduced murders? Reply Thanks Horn-dog. You and your wife are the most corrupt politicians I know. But thanks for not dying in office and giving us President Gore! Reply Actually I haven’t thought much about that alternative universe. I don’t remember his position on guns. We certainly would be a more eco friendly USA, had he come to power. Reply We likley would’ve surrendered on September 12th, 2001. Reply No kidding. Ahem, Clinton was no longer Pres. when 9/11 happened. I know, I meant if Gore was president. You DID surrender your common sense and your rights after September 11, 2001. I didn’t surrender Shit. Maybe you did, but I sure as hell didn’t. I haven’t changed my behavior one bit. Again, maybe you live in fear, but I don’t. Just because you believe 9/11 was some vast right wing conspiracy to overthrow the BOR doesn’t make it so. The BOR is still going strong. It’s been kicked in the shin, the nuts, the guts, but it’s still alive. You can sit there and cry woe is me all my rights are gone and I’m sssoooo oppressed, but I’ll continue to bask in and fight for liberty. That’s 100% Your assumption about a right wing conspiracy, not sure where you pulled that gem from…but yeah, you’ve given up a great deal of freedom and rights under the guise of the Patriot Act and the war on terrorism, doesn’t matter if you dont have the intelligence or the balls to admit it. Oh please. The Truther movement is a liberal one, by far. You know that, and you love it. You out yourself as a troll when you try to play off these conversations as the left vs right paradigm. Funny stuff. Gore didn’t and doesn’t like guns. We wouldn’t have been any more eco friendly as you say because Gore is a virtue signaling moron. Like all other virtue signaling morons he would have imposed more rules on the lowly servant class and given away more money and in the end we would have just been called worthless by our leader that just gave away our money. The environment would have been the same. Or it would have been changing as much as it’s been changing since earth was created. Reply What used to happen over a period of a thousand years is happening now over a period of fifty years. Pretty sure that’s not normal. Grainok, based on what data? For real? I used to believe in the religion of man made global warming/climate change….not so much anymore. To Pg2 Well, based on the recent hurricanes, floods, wildfires, and droughts that are increasing in intensity. You don’t have to be a scientist to notice that things are getting more severe with every passing year. Not all environmental science should be taken as gospel, but if the evidence for it is all over the news and in your face, it must be plausible at least. Anecdotal. Maybe. Gore is an opportunist who used the global warming hysteria to swindle hundreds of millions of dollars from lower income Americans. His motivation is money and power, and if he had slid over into the Oval Office, he would have found more lucrative opportunities. Reply Actually, while Global Warming has now turned into the more accurate Climate Change, it is still a thing. Now, nothing we have done so far will be able to stop it, as we are way past the tipping point, but we could still all be more resource and eco friendly. Less pollution and all that. Even if we stayed in the Paris Climate Accord, we would have delayed Climate Change by a few years at most. However, we don’t need to be dumping as much plastic into the ocean. There are plenty of feasible biodegradable plastics. Shotgun shells, for example, used to be made out of paper. Why aren’t they made out of paper anymore? I’m pretty sure the cheap target loads don’t need the structural rigidity of plastic. Then why did the murder rate go down after the law timed out? Reply Shhh logic is fatal to libturds. Reply Only in a world where facts matter. We ain’t there yet. Reply Or before it was passed? No logic is needed when trying to defend a leftist argument… Only lots of alcohol. Reply And maybe a young woman with knee pads. Reply …because the ‘blowies don’t count’ mindset had permeated the culture, and there was a lot less unrelieved tension being turned into physical aggression. Right, right, that’s the ticket, let’s run with that. Reply ol’ bubba showed what the left planned for gun owners…she would have offered more of the same…. Reply A combination of security tech (video, cell phones, CCTV, Etc), tougher prison sentences, more carry laws, an improving economy and if you believe Freakonomics abortion in the lower class of society. More guns less crime wasn’t just a book title but a lot of factors lowered the rates. Clinton takes credit for it all despite the actions of millions of others that came together on the goal. The Rs gave us a better economy and passed tougher crime laws locking the dirtbags up. Cellphones make crime report able anywhere. Cameras capture the act. Think about how tech protects us better in public and private. Clinton had little to do with that, innovative companies are to credit but he thinks his presence helped. His policies did nothing and economically hindered capital instead. Freakonomics (the book) claims all the criminals were aborted in the 70s and 80s so they were not alive to commit the crimes. They give most of the credit to abortion whichi silly. Immigrants both legal and illegal replaced most of the missing people and we have 320 million today. So the population grew and we imported dirtbags anyway. Maybe SOME criminals were never born but we still have idiots among us to worry about. If a single mother in 1961 living with her parents in Hawaii, pregnant by a foreigner-husband who just left her, had decided to abort her child we’d have a different scenario today. But that’s another story Reply The 2-3 pages in Freakonomics which addressed the issue covered a lot of possibilities before advocating abortion as the change agent, and never said it was about fewer people, rather that it was about fewer people born to and raised by young, single girls who did not want them and could not support them. If you try *reading* it, it makes a pretty convincing argument. Unless your mind is closed. Reply “If a single mother in 1961 living with her parents in Hawaii, pregnant by a foreigner-husband who just left her, had decided to abort her child we’d have” had Hillary as President from 2009-2018. Fixed it for you Reply Yeah no. Pretty sure it had more to do with increasing patrols in high crime areas. Reply Bill forgot to mention that rape declined precipitously once he retired and didn’t have the Secret Service or the Arkansas State Police to alibi him out. Causa et effectus. Reply I am pretty sure that he, as he is entitled, still has a Secret Service detail. I suspect it may be a rather sweet assignment as long as he isn’t in NY where Hillary can keep an eye on him. Reply Or give him anymore black eyes. Reply It was 5 years and they had to pay for it. Obama made it free for life, for obvious reasons he thought he’d need it. Madam president pays for the SS because she wasn’t president. Thank God.and Thank Trump. Reply *psst* It’s lead, actually. https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/02/lead-exposure-gasoline-crime-increase-children-health/ Reply Ah, another fan of Freakonomics-esque reasoning. Thank you, young Mr. Venture. Reply Don’t know if that can be considered “freakonomics” thinking given that the freakononics team specifically disavows the lead / crime hypothesis… http://freakonomics.com/2007/10/30/did-banning-lead-lower-crime/ Reply Yeah they gave credit to legalized abortion IIRC. Personally the lead hypothesis speaks to me more. I was more so recognizing the link between two seemingly unconnected events to create an outcome, which is what freakonomics is about, not necessarily his example. I always find these hypotheses to be interesting. Sorry Billy boy, you get less credit for the drop in crime than Al gets for inventing the Internet! Reply Billy boy Clinton- A legend in his own mind. Reply Slick Willie’s is losing his mind from the effects of Pumphead caused by his bypass operation. He’s one step behind the Kelly Dummy. See his recent photos and listen to some of his recent few speeches. His AWB comment posted above was probably ghost written by a Hillary staffer. Slick will be in diapers by the 2020 elections. Reply Gun ownership has also sky rocketed from the 90s to today yet crime has been declining every year save for one or two exceptions. Reply You mean the sort of firearms that were virtually never used in crimes until the Clintonistas started advertising them as the ultimate crime weapon, and are still used 1/20th as often as handguns? Reply The only 2 things he did right was getting rid of the deficits, with a Republican Congress mind you, and the 3 strikes rule. Reply Uh, does Slick Willy know that his ‘Assault Weapons Ban’ sunsetted out of existence 14 years ago and the homicide rate continued to drop? Reply Of course he knows. He just lies about it. That’s what he does for living after all. Reply He should be writing that from a federal prison if we had a real justice system.along with his so called wife. Reply Technically former President only get 10 years SS protection. Incoming President extend the protection as a courtesy. I’d love it if Trump revoked the Clinton’s detail. They got the money to hire their own PSD. Reply That got passed under W. Bush. Previous Presidents were grandfathered in, and got to keep lifetime protection. Reply Former Presidents and their spouses for their lifetimes (except when the spouse divorces or remarries), under the Former Presidents Act. From 1997 until 2013, legislation was in place limiting Secret Service protection to former Presidents and their spouses to a period of 10 years from the date the former President leaves office. President Barack Obama signed legislation on January 10, 2013, reversing this limit and reinstating lifetime protection. From wikipedia and it’s cited. Reply Yeah, hell, they got 120 million just from uranium sales. But their PSD should not be allowed firearms, that is clear. Reply too late asshole because feinstein couldnt keep her stupid mouth shut we now know the ultimate goal then as well as now is total disarmament and because hillary called us deplorables and irredeemables we now know y all fucking hate us never in a million years will we ever give up our guns molon labe motherfuckers Reply Well, yeah, there is that! Reply How many Messiahs do we now have? And when are they going away? Reply FU Ex-pres Clinton! Reply The word of the day is NACHO! “Hillary Clinton is still NACHO President!” Reply Too be bad she’s still nacho in a jail cell… Alright maybe it doesn’t work in that context. Reply There’s no ‘maybe’ about it. Reply I think you’ll find the violent crime rate was trending downward across the Western world before the ban began and just continued unaffected by the ban. Moreover, so called “assault weapons” have always been a statistical nullity in violent crime rates: more people are killed by pistols by far, and even by kicks and punches annually, than are killed by modern sporting rifles. Reply What a ludicrous comment. Rifles account for a comparatively small number of homicides. Handguns dwarf deaths by long guns. I guess Slick Willy only has to say it as there are a lot of stupid people out there. Reply Gee Slick Willy you DID inhale…what about you murdering Vince Foster and the other “mysterious” deaths?!? Those crimes didn’t drop… Reply They weren’t murdered, they were “suicided”. Reply Arkancide Reply Pour water on the fire and call in the dogs. We’ve got to get on about it. 30 Reply So the law he signed 24 years ago created a 33 year low? The low was 9 years prior to him signing the law? Am I reading this correctly? Bill can’t even do math! Reply Hahahaha. That’s too good. Reply Bill can count to two. One intern, Two hooters. Reply Here, I’ll do my best Bill Clinton imitation. “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” You see, I only play a zombie on TV. Reply If Democrats like O’bama was POTUS during 911 we’d have surrendered to O’sama and be giving him money not too attack us again, plus free Weaponry and training! let us look at Billie’s domestic record, Ruby Ridge, Waco, WTC truck bomb, Oklahoma city truck bomb, Amtrack Sabotage, Muslim shooting Jews, Columbine high school, Nazi shooting Jews in Atlanta, so like all perverted Democrats his record is worse than any other presidents! but he did it all good! yup perversion rules in the Democrat Party no wonder they are so tight with the Priests and the goat ropers! come one come all, F the US u,p destroy the Fabric of American life Feinstien, Shumer and the rest, Reply Stop typing and take your meds. Reply Oh really, the scary-looking rifle ban and other measures helped, did they? Well I have good teeth because I brush my teeth, and masturbate. Reply Nice try Billy boy… The reduction in crime was due to the fact that an entire generation of Democrats was scraped out of the womb and thrown in the trash prior to their becoming the tremendous “contributors to society” that they normally become… http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/DonohueLevittTheImpactOfLegalized2001.pdf Reply And let’s hope they continue doing that forever. Reply Imagine how many lives Bill would have saved if he were a real leader and had Osama Bin Laden killed when he had the chance ? Reply He was foolish to admit he was offered him in chains and refused. That cost us 3000 lives and a bunch of buildings. Not to mention the legal aftermath. Reply Sooooo, you accept that Bin Laden was behind the attacks on 9/11? Look into it. Start with Building 7, the entrance to the rabbit hole. Reply Texas, There’s some hard core dupes/trolls(kroglikepie, New Continental Army…(https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/09/kat-ainsworth/911-have-you-forgotten/#comments) that regularly post here that will endlessly waste your time on this subject….almost as if they do it intentionally…… Anyone who believes a fire consuming desks, chairs, furniture, ect is capable of bringing a steel framed building down into its own footprint at free fall speed is too stupid and own a firearm and shouldn’t be trusted. There’s a story going around claiming there are secret videos taken by hundreds of different people which show pretty clearly the events of that day, as they were happening, maybe you could find a way to access those and view them in private, to learn the REAL truth, huh? Just when you think you’ve heard all the lies…. Reply I feel your pain. Reply Well, he is right. If it wasn’t for the AWB, responsible, law-abiding citizens would not have realized how close they were coming to losing their 2nd amendment rights. Because of this more people began buying firearms and shooting them. As time passed, more citizens began exercising these 2nd amendment rights, and because of that, they have shot many criminals. This has deterred quite a bit of violent crime, leading to the lowest violent crime rate in many years. Good job, Bill! You were the wake up call that many needed! Reply It helped launch the AR revolution. Taking an obscure rifle that was a small part of gun sales to the number one rifle in America. I bought my first and second because of these people, The first the day the ban expired and buying my AR in .308 the same day Obama secured the dem nomination. He was on TV in the shop while I did the paperwork. These 2 were the best gun salesmen ever. Reply I bought my first AR the day after Bill signed the AWB. It cost twice as much as it had the day before. Store opened at 9 am, I was waiting. Reply Who is this guy and why should I care? Reply Everyone wants to take credit for the drop in crime. These guys think abortion caused the reduction in crime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect These guys think banning leaded gasoline caused the reduction in crime: https://www.medicaldaily.com/leaded-gasoline-linked-rise-and-fall-violent-crime-244173 Forbes thinks it’s massive gun ownership that caused a reduction in crime: https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/05/14/disarming-realities-as-gun-sales-soar-gun-crimes-plummet/#6450ff03f7c7 The truth is that no one really knows why crime is going down. Don’t believe anyone that tells you otherwise. Reply It’s true nobody can say for sure what led to the massive drop in violent crime. But it’s also true that this same massive drop give the lie to any claim that these same things greatly increase crime. Now, nobody that I know is making that claim for abortion, let alone lead remediation, but they do constantly make the claim about gun rights. Reply The murder rate had already been falling as the number of guns increased and concealed carry permits rose. His AWB had no effect on the murder rate that the FBI could account for. Reply Very similar to the false credit we give to vaccines for curbing disease and mortality last century…..nearly every disease we vaccinated for , and others we did not vaccinate for, were all in rapid decline in both occurrence and mortality well before any mass vaccine campaign. Through clever and very well financed story telling, vaccines incorrectly take the credit for vastly improved sanitation, access to clean water, better nutrition, and ,less crowded living conditions. Reply You seem to support/believe/spout/etc too many conspiracy theories… I think your tinfoil hat is on a little too tight. Do you also believe the moon landing was faked? LOL Reply Before you throw around the conspiracy theorist label, be prepared to defend your position with facts/data. Can you? Don’t know about the moon landing, but do know vaccienes are not proven safe and are also given false credit for the improvement of health last century. Reply Using the President’s logic: “Twenty-two years ago, I let a voluptuous White House intern perform oral sex on me, and that, along with other policies, led to a 33-year low in the murder rate. We’ve done it before–we should let her do it again. I’m up for it, what say you, Monica? Are you ready to save some more lives?” Reply Perfectly in keeping with leftist logic! Reply Needs rephrasing, remember, Bill thought it was oral non-sex. Or so he claimed. Reply He seems to forget that the AWB was a part of a much larger crime bill, which was called(going from memory here) “The Violent Crime Control and Enforcement Act”. It put lots more cops on the streets, and led to Fed/State joint ventures like Project Exile, and put a whole lot of young, black,violent criminals behind bars for long sentences. His wife had a term for these criminals… Superpredators. Reply Yep…just as a wall would just be PART of a solution to illegal immigration…not the entire solution Reply Thank you Mr Clinton , for nothing !! You are a legend , in your own mind. & a cheater. Wow a cheater & a liar for a wife. You must be proud of yoursel. You are the only one that is !! Reply There are sources who credit the dramatic rise in abortions for the lower crime rate. As AR-15’s have little to do with crime rates, and the ban didn’t actually get rid of any, how exactly did the ban reduce crime?!? One could make a better correlation with globally warming. Want to reduce crime? Grill meat on an outside coal fired grill! Reply And drownings declined once Ted Kennedy stopped driving. Reply So the sale and possession of AR pattern rifles with 30 round mags has been at an all-time high since the Obama admin, yet it’s the Clinton awb we have to thank for a safer America? Yeah, no. Reply Hmmm. Rape being illegal didn’t stop you, did it? Reply Or it could be legal abortion…I have seen that mentioned as well. All those unwanted kids would have been out on the streets killing and stealing. It could be a factor. Reply Just one more lie in a long list from Clintons. Reply The Assault rifle ban did nothing but infringe on Constitutional rights of Americans! Bill is full of himself! He must have Alzheimer’s or dementia. Reply Bill Clinton remains what he always was. A walking, talking piece of human garbage. Reply Sorry Bill, assault weapons and long guns in general account for less deaths than knives, feet and fists. That ban had no effect on homicide rates but nice try. I’m sure all your fans will pile on and thank you as the predecessor of the true Messiah (Obama). I can’t believe you are still held out as relevant and credible after tarnishing the image of the POTUS by using your position for getting oral sex from an intern in the Oval Office. Reply LEAVE A REPLY Cancel reply Please enter your comment! Please enter your name here You have entered an incorrect email address! Please enter your email address here Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email.