UPDATE: Multiple Gunmen [Not Shown], Six Killed, One Shooter Dead at DC Navy Yard

"A sniper is seen securing the surrounding area of the Navy Yard. Astrid Riecken / For The Washington Post"

“Six people were killed and several more were wounded Monday at the Washington Navy Yard when gunmen armed with assault rifles barged inside and opened fire,” nydailynews.com. “Police shot one of the intruders, who later died of his wounds, and were looking for “potentially two other shooters,” said Washington D.C. police Chief Cathy Lanier. ‘We have no reason to believe either was military,’ said Lanier, but both appear to be wearing uniforms of some kind . . . One is a white man armed with a handgun, last seen around 8:30 a.m. wearing a khaki Navy style uniform, the chief said. The other is a black man in his 50’s dressed in olive drab and carrying a ‘long gun’ of some kind.” wistv.com reports that President Obama has responded to the attack . . .

President Barack Obama is mourning what he called “yet another mass shooting” in the United States that he says took the life of American patriots.

Obama promised to make sure, quote, “whoever carried out this cowardly act is held responsible.”

It was unclear whether the President included the “workplace violence” at Fort Hood and no mention of that whole Benghazi thing. Meanwhile, multiple shooters at a U.S. military installation with at least one gunman reportedly wearing a uniform? I don’t know about you but I think it’s a bit early to call this a “mass shooting” rather than a terrorist attack. Just sayin’ . . .


  1. avatar CCW Guy says:

    So a good guy with a gun was able to stop a bad guy with a gun??? That doesn’t make sense…..
    Sarcasm off

  2. avatar tdiinva says:

    Looks like a multicultural team made of bad guys from Ghost Recon /sarc

  3. avatar MotoJB says:

    WTF is wrong with people…crazy scumbags!

  4. avatar IdahoPete says:

    “…gunmen armed with assault rifles barged inside …”

    How do you “barge inside” within a limited-access military facility that is supposedly secure, and prohibits any personal weapons from being brought into the base? Are they saying that a gummint-secured Gun Free Zone is a farce? I am shocked, shocked …

    1. avatar JoshinGA says:

      And really it was a gun free zone inside the gun free zone of the city of DC…as Ive commented elsewhere, if a gun free zone protected with multiple layers of armed guards can be breached, then what hope do we have that other gun free zones protected by nothing more than a sign will be secure? Oh, thats right, they arent secure, and are just victim rich zones waiting to be attacked.

      1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

        Ding ding ding ding ding ding! We have a winner.

      2. avatar Mediocrates says:

        obviously, they didn’t pause to read the signs. duh!

        1. avatar jwm says:

          With the shape the public schools are in these days they may not have been able to read the GFZ signs.

        2. avatar Brian says:

          Well that’s why they use the pictures, duh!

        3. avatar jwm says:

          Touche, Brian. But what if they failed art class as well?

    2. avatar William Burke says:

      It’s a naval yard, so they “barged” inside.

    3. avatar LongPurple says:

      Is it certain that he entered the base by the gate? Could he have come in by boat? Are there any security measures that can prevent intrusion from the river?
      He may indeed have “barged” in — or “rafted”, or whatever other watercraft might have been used.

  5. avatar Jeremy S says:

    So the headline says “gunmen armed with assault rifles” and then the text of the article goes on to say one guy with a handgun and one a ‘long gun of some kind’?!?!?! Wow. That’s just peachy.

    1. avatar jwm says:

      EVIL ASSUALT RIFLES! EVIL ASSUALT RIFLES! EVIL ASSUALT RIFLES! Are you ready to get behind an AWB? Or should I shout EVIL ASSUALT RIFLES one more time?

      Basically their strategy in a nutshell.

      1. avatar LongPurple says:

        The Violence Policy Center has admitted their strategy re “assault rifles”.

        From the Violence Policy Center website:

        “The weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun— can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons.”

        1. avatar peirsonb says:

          That is gun-grabbers in general.

          They fail to realize that people do not a right to not be frightened, e.g. by an evil looking rifle.

          Nor does anyone’s belief in lack of need for something negate anyone else’s right to own said something.

      2. avatar William Burke says:

        AR-15! AR-15!! AR-15!!! NOBODY NEEDS AN AR-15!!!!

  6. avatar Jeff says:

    “Obama promised to make sure, quote, “whoever carried out this cowardly act is held responsible.””

    well, that is, until he and his administration can find a way to hold the rest of us responsible for their actions.

    1. The shooters have obviously crossed a red line.

      1. avatar HiPlanesDrifter says:

        Not yet . . . b/c they didn’t move or use chemical weapons, that is, unless you consider lead a chemical.

  7. avatar Yo Roper says:

    President Obama has responded to the attack – “as of today (after I get a round in at Andrews), I am banning all law abiding civilian ownership of all guns because that has nothing to do with what happened at the Navy Yard. Uh, er, what I meant to say….”

    1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      Spot on except for the additional missing “um”s and “uh”s.

      1. avatar Matt in FL says:

        I think they’re more “ahs” than “uhs.”

    2. avatar Patriot says:

      “I’m tired of these tragedies, uh, how many more people, uhhh, have to die, before Congress, uhh, acts in the interest of the American people. Uhhhh, I said after Newtown, uhh, that we can’t afford, to have these tragedies. Uhhh, but because Congress, uhhh, specifically Republicans, refuse to act, uhh, and because these Republicans continue to listen to a terroris… errr, uhh, gun lobby organization, uhh such as the NRA, instead of the American people, uhh, we will continue to have these tragedies. Uhhh, How many more? uhhh, I have asked Vice President Biden, uhh, to further asses what steps we can take, uhh and see how much more power I can abuse. In the meantime, I ask Congress, uhhh, to vote to ban these weapons”

      C:\ Documents and Settings\Administrator
      C:\ Program Files\upload-speech

      1. avatar Patriot says:

        I’m not a programmer, nor have I ever attempted to program, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

  8. avatar LongPurple says:

    I expect it will be at least 24 hours until the mud settles and some truth emerges from the chaos of instantaneous reporting of what may or may not be fact in this incident.

    1. avatar Andy says:


    2. avatar tdiinva says:

      Time for the TTAG staff to be silent until the real facts are known.

      1. avatar Dave says:

        Hear, hear.

        Although I think it should apply to any news or journalism orginization. The lack of ethics in journalism is distubing; everyone attmepting to break the news first, but all they have are rumors and half-truths. CBS already identified the shooter; only to retract it later when they found out they were wrong. If I was that retired Chief I would be suing some people.

    3. avatar LongPurple says:

      I heard a female reporter on Fox “explain” to the Public how the shooter was armed with an AR-15, “the civilian version of the M-16″ She went on to say that that this explained how some witnesses had reported that three shots were fired, because “this weapon fires in three shot bursts”.

      Please, members of the 4th Estate, if you don’t know what you are talking about don’t comment.

      I also hear that a “suspect” was seen armed, while wearing a Navy uniform — including a beret. Is there a beret authorized for wear with any Navy uniform?

      1. avatar tdiinva says:

        Yeah, women wear it. I don’t know if its still in use.

      2. avatar BillF says:

        In my day, the brown water navy wore black berets. I think tdiinva is correct–only women now.

      3. avatar B says:

        I heard the guy reporter on Fox try to lead the guy on the ground with “So this was an assault rifle, right? An AR-15? Can you describe just how deadly that rifle is?”

    4. avatar William Burke says:

      Don’t ignore the inconsistencies as the storyline develops and morphs, and the message is refined. There’s often really important stuff there.

      1. avatar tdiinva says:

        Yeah, the media has its head up it’s a$$

  9. avatar Matt in FL says:

    I want it to be a military person with a rifle that’s actually capable of three round bursts, like was originally (and almost certainly erroneously) reported. That way it has nothing whatsoever to do with me. I mean, less than it already does, which is somewhere between zero and nothing.

  10. avatar Crazed Java says:

    Go ahead. Propose some gun control measures and pray the American public doesn’t ask why a military facility wasn’t better secured.

    That will be a fun sell.

  11. avatar uncommon_sense says:

    Obama promised to make sure, quote, “whoever carried out this cowardly act is held responsible.”

    I am overjoyed to hear that Obummer is going to finally hold the cowards responsible that ban firearms. Wait, that’s not what he meant?

    Gun grabbers are afraid of anyone with a gun whether the armed person is a criminal or a citizen. Thus they ban everyone from having guns. Of course that doesn’t work because criminals do not honor bans. And what happened today is the natural result when citizens are forcibly disarmed.

    1. avatar 505markf says:

      There may come a time, sooner rather than later, when law-abiding citizens in places like NY state and CA cross the line into ignoring bans as well.

  12. avatar Jus Bill says:

    ” said Washington D.C. police Chief Cathy Lanier…” who has absolutely NO jurisdiction in a crime committed on a military reservation. This is an NCIS show.

    The circus has officially arrived in town.

    1. avatar William Burke says:

      GENERALISSIMA Lanier!!! Robert, PLEASE publish a photo of her with all those stars and phony decorations….

  13. avatar uncommon_sense says:

    But the most important question, is Obummer going to define this as “workplace violence”?

    1. avatar 505markf says:

      Only if the shooters were yelling “Allah Akbar!” and had recent email communications with Al Qaeda.

      Otherwise, it was certainly the work of internal extremists and NRA members. In which case it would be terrorists.

      Freaking government…

      1. avatar William Burke says:

        They might actually claim it was Tea Party members under the direction of al-Queda. If not this time, soon…

  14. avatar J. Evangelista says:

    Cnn is being over dramatic with the bold the all caps title “multiple bodies in navy yard”. There is too much speculation and not enough hard evidence at this time.

  15. avatar Fug says:

    CNN Analyst Tom Funtes: “This Could be a case of workplace violence…”

    1. avatar William Burke says:

      Well, let’s see… it was a workplace, and…..

  16. avatar dirk diggler says:

    is Obama’s search for those responsible gonna be like OJ’s search for the real killers??

  17. avatar John in AK says:

    . . .and we are part of the problem. MSNFoxBCNN has a breaking story, talks to people (excited, stressed, poorly-observing ones) who really don’t know what happened but have a single point of view that MIGHT have some truth, but certainly only part of it, and breathlessly puts out whatever they have in a snapshot of time just to have something out, all while using buzzwords such as gunman, multiple, assault rifle, frantic, and spray. In the meantime, every other official-type talking head in the area gets a severe case of ‘microphone syndrome,’ wherein if one gets a mic stuck in front of their face, one has the unbearable urge to SAY something, relevant or no.

    As soon as the first bit of so-called news information comes out, everyone else in the country starts to suffer ‘Interweb Syndrome’ and has to post their totally-uninformed opinion or desire or WAG about who did what and why, meanwhile hoping that the shooter/s are white/black/arab, left/right/home-grown/foreign, workplace/terrorists/militant/military/civilian/LGBT/Martians who work in the place, or sneaked guns into a gun-free zone, and whether or not this will affect the 2A, and how Obama feels about it and why that’s just awful/special/important/unimportant/threatening.

    Doesn’t that BOTHER you?

    1. avatar Ardent says:

      Deeply John, deeply and profoundly. However, this is the country we live in and the people we share it with. I propose ongoing education at least throughout K-12 in skepticism, logic and rhetoric. Of course it would result in the death of statism, collectivism and religion of all sorts eventually, but it would provide a well informed and not easily lead populace.

      1. avatar William Burke says:

        Yeah… the death of statism is a non-starter in our “educational” system. A parallel, non-state school system is needed, because not enough parents are ever going to be able to go the home-school route. If it’s good, if it gets good results, you’ll see mass defections from the public school system.

  18. avatar Emancipator144 says:

    Thoughts of a gunman – I don’t always kill people, but when I do, they are soft targets in a gun free zone.

  19. avatar MojoRonin says:

    I heard that during the Newtown shooting, that the gov’t had ‘crisis actors’ there to wave additional bloody shirts…I wonder if it takes the same amount of time to get the real facts out as it does to coach and prepare crisis actors for their roles?

    1. avatar 505markf says:

      “Ok, everyone ready – hey, you in the back row, pay attention please – ok, repeat after me: it was HORRIBLE! I was so afraid because he had a GUN!”

      Remember, emphasis on “horrible” and “gun”. Everyone got that? Good.

    2. avatar William Burke says:

      At the Boston bombing, as well. There were real injuries and deaths, but there were embellishments through make-up jobs. I could show this to anyone in person, because there are photos that show this.
      But I don’t have a forum to do this here, and it’s not the place anyway.

      1. avatar Dave says:

        It’s not the forum, but you bring it up anyway…. I would love to see proof of this conspiracy.

        1. avatar William Burke says:

          So you didn’t bother to doubt the crisis actors at Newtown, but now you doubt this?

        2. avatar Stinkeye says:

          If only there were some way to share photos via the internet. Maybe someday…

        3. avatar William Burke says:

          How do I contact you without sharing my email over said internet?

        4. avatar Dave says:

          To be clear… No, I do not belive there were any actors at Newtown, Boston, or the Navy Yard. I do believe the U.S. landed on the moon.

          As far as sharing photos… You could start your own website/blog or a Flickr account. Or are you really Snowden divulging more secrets from Siberia?

        5. avatar jwm says:

          And this is the truth about all these conspiracy theories. Try to pin one of their mouthpieces down with a show of proof and they waffle. Just the word of an anonymous dude on the internet that knows all the inside dope but he never produces any of it.

      2. avatar Dave says:

        Exactly. Convince me William Burke… Show me the proof! You will be the biggest name since Snowden on blowing the lid off of the government. You could help topple the Obama Administration. Until then this is just as bad as gun grabbers waving the bloody shirt, but there is no proof the shirt you’re waving even exists.

        1. avatar William Burle says:

          Send me your email address, short-brains.

  20. avatar Patriot says:

    The gun-grabbers have successfully 1-uped themselves, instead of even waiting to hear how many have died to crawl over the bodies to shout, “GUN CONTROL!”, they aren’t even waiting for the victims to stop bleeding. A-F_ckin’-Mazing.

  21. avatar shawn says:

    How the heck did they get in there?

  22. avatar macgearailt says:

    Latest report,12 kia including a shooter.

  23. avatar Jim Bullock says:

    Well, thinking this is another chance, they’re gonna keep flogging this. They manage to make a several-month, ill-reported crisis out of the few incidents that fit the “mass shooting” / “guns evil” story. These incidents stand out particularly to people who are isolated from the base level of other violence.

    I do wonder whether it’s not time to go half-Olby on this one. (I would never suggest that someone go full-Olby. There’s no coming back from that.) Start promoting daily and running counts of incidents, victims & successful self defense ending with “This is day *whatever* that gun ownership is up, gun violence is down, and yet another round of laws directed at the good guys haven’t stopped the bad guys, but guns in the good guys hands have.”

    Short of that, this is an opportunity to plug the emotional spin. “You know, there were N people in that building. How frustrating is must have been for the combat veterans among them to only be able to ‘shelter in place’ while their colleagues were shot.”

    “The bad guy took out the uniformed guards, openly carrying. Interesting. I wonder – like I wonder about Fort Hood – what a couple combat vets carrying concealed would have done to the outcome. I wonder how it would have changed these bad guy’s calculus had they not known exactly who to shoot first, the only ones who could fight back.”

    “Huh. Shame the ‘responders’ were so far away, especially given that veterans and service personnel are themselves often ‘responders.'”

    While I’m holding forth, “Common Sense Gun Control” ought to be smacked down every time:

    Short form:
    “I’d be happy to back common sense violence reduction, if they or you would propose any. The defeated bills were defeated because they suck at reducing violence, and everybody who read them knows it. (The amendment ‘deal’ was actually worse than the original language, BTW.)”

    Long form:
    “First, the goal is to reduce violence, not control guns. Gun control may be a means. If gun control is the goal that’s a different conversation. To start, y’all need to stop lying about what your goal actually is. It’s just confusing to the rest of us.

    Second, you have the leading sponsor of the recent Senate bill *on video* saying that she really wants to take all citizens’ guns away. Seems reasonable to believe she means what she says. So, you ought to emphasize how the proposed bills can’t be used for that.

    You’re really working against the “common sense” not to trust a word you say about the real goal of gun legislation, when MAIG, the Brady Campaign, and *the other one*, who lobbied the sponsors and helped write the legislation, all proclaim publicly their goal of civilian disarmament.

    The “common sense” thing to do is address the concerns your own legislation, its sponsors and the way it was undertaken have created.

    We haven’t improved out gun laws, and I blame you, for the dishonesty, overreach and polarization kept ‘common sense’ out of the discussion.”

  24. avatar Bob4 says:

    I just learned a few things through someone connected to the military community in DC. This is not some disgruntled employee or workplace violence incident.

  25. avatar ensitue says:

    How Come Gubmnt Facilitys are such a target rich environment?
    Latest reports point to a well scouted/planned Mil. Spec. attack in the heart of Obamaland. Was it a message being sent?

    1. avatar tdiinva says:

      Sources please. Alex Jones doesn’t count.

      1. avatar ensitue says:

        I’m going to assume you were addressing me:
        You did notice the question mark, did you not?
        As to my sources, how bout Main Stream Media.

        1. avatar tdiinva says:

          Well, since you heard it from the MSM it must be true. They have a name, Aaron Alexis, 34 of Fort Worth Texas. Doesn’t sound very SOF to me.

  26. avatar NEIOWA says:

    Where did DC find that moronic broad for chief (or general) of police. What a dimwit. And 4 STARS (3″ across). each shoulder.

    1. avatar ensitue says:

      And a chest full of ribbons, plus her hair was ‘tragic’

  27. avatar dirk diggler says:

    shooter id’d and reports that he was a ccw holder but had a criminal record. hmmm


    1. avatar tdiinva says:

      That’s clearer reporting than I have seen anywhere. This guy might be a Alex Jones devote. Bad news.

      1. avatar William Burke says:

        Kool-ade drinker.

        1. avatar tdiinva says:

          This from the guy that voted for Cynthia McKinney.

        2. avatar William Burle says:

          You’re half the woman she is.

        3. avatar tdiinva says:

          Cynthia, is that you?

    2. avatar Kelly in GA says:

      I’ve been reading comments on the article Dirk posted. HOLY CRAP there are a bunch of dumb, hateful, angry people on both sides of the gun debate out there. Seriously, our country is FUBAR if this is all we have.

      1. avatar Matt in FL says:

        Yeah, I scrolled two or three screens into those comments and then had to go shower.

      2. avatar Silver says:

        An Australian friend once asked me, “Why are politics in America so venomous and hateful? They’re rather civil here.”

        I could have been cheeky and said, “They’re civil there because you all already gave up all your freedoms and have nothing to fight for,” but I opted instead to be honest in another way and said, “Because here, it’s not just about which guy to put in the White House. It’s a fight for survival. We have a party consisting entirely of traitors trying to warp the foundations of our national values and freedoms. They are venomous, and true Americans, refusing to submit, fight back.”

        America does not have “venomous politics.” It has traitors and Americans.

  28. avatar Silver says:

    Obama promised to make sure, quote, “no matter who carried out this cowardly act, we will hold law-abiding gun owners responsible.”


    1. avatar William Burle says:

      Yeah, this stuff writes itself, doesn’t it?

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