On Valentine’s Day, I wrote how last fall’s election results spurred the hard left into mounting an insurrection of sorts. In fact, in ‘Will the Left’s Civil War Turn Deadly?‘ I described it as a civil war. I did so in part because of the organized nature of these violent incidents across America.
These malcontents see violence as their only option after the electoral shellacking their favorite party took last November’s. The story generated an enormous number of comments. As is often the case here at TTAG, more than a few of our readers’ thoughts proved proved sage, prudent and well-considered.
Strych9 offered this comment at yesterday’s story:
It’s my estimation that it might get violent and a few people might be killed but what the widespread violence that a few of the anarchists and “anitfa” want will not happen. Yes a beating might go to far or there might be a stabbing or perhaps a few CCW holders will lay a few of these [a-holes] out on slabs but that’s where it will end.
There aren’t a lot of these people who have the courage of their convictions to actually die for their beliefs. A few, but not many. The American Left is generally soft when it comes to real, true bare knuckle violence and society will only tolerate so much. A few riots are something society will tolerate. A few businesses lit on fire, a few windows smashed, a few cars flipped and a few people seriously [effed] up. People generally see that as the reason for insurance. See LA in 1992.
What the larger society won’t tolerate is widespread violence of that type or a concerted effort to make widespread violence a reality. At a certain point society will look at this as an “uprising” of violent [f-]tards that has crossed the line into being an insurrection. At that point the gloves will come off and the full autos will come out with the approval of the vast majority of people in this country. At that point the Left will reap the whirlwind and, quite frankly, I don’t think they have the balls for that. Looting a sports store or smashing a Starbucks while chanting slogans and dodging tear gas with your milk-soaked bandanna is fun for some of these folks. Very, very few of them will think it’s fun when the tear gas turns to live ammo. Getting arrested is a badge of honor for many of them. Few see a [gunshot wound] that way.
You can see this in the way these “antifas” work. If they were willing to die they’d shoot bullets at the cops rather than fireworks, which are generally meant to distract so that they can move somewhere. They know where the line is that will provoke a truly violent response against them and they actively try not to cross it.
Are there people who want to see such an insurrection? Yes, but there are very few of them and fewer still willing to put their ass on the line to make it happen.
Now, if race manages to get injected into this, that could change the dynamic. That could provoke blind rage in a segment of the population and blind rage is, well, blind. Those people might actually not think about what they’re doing and they might push it farther than they really intended to. I hope that doesn’t happen.
Stay safe out there folks.
JWTaylor, a man I have great respect for, called me on the carpet over citing the sniper attack on Dallas Police during a leftist rally:
Micah Johnson killed those officers because he was a racist piece of [merde] that wanted to, in his words, “kill white people, especially white cops.” He was not a member of any prominent leftist organizations that we know of, and in fact was banned from membership into some of the more prominent “black liberation” movements. He didn’t spout any communist/socialist/anarchist stuff on his facebook page, aside from hating white people. Plus, he did his killings 4 months before the election. That’s not tied into the anti-Trump riots post election at all.
The other statistic about ambush killings being a 10 year high is absolute truth. That means during the George W Bush administration it was higher than now, and during the HW Bush administration it was almost twice as high as now. And I don’t remember anyone credible saying it was civil war.
Don’t make something into what it’s not.
…He just showed up at a leftist protest and started killing cops because it seemed like a good day to kill people?
[Scumbag’s name redacted] sure as shinola was no church-going, God-fearing man who loved his country. He was a – scumbag – who let his rifle do his “protesting” at a leftist rally. He didn’t target the leftists. He targeted our civilization. That puts him in the radical malcontent category in my book. YMMV.
JWT came back:
He targeted the place he knew a lot of cops would be. That’s not hard to figure out. He didn’t target anyone for political ideology, he targeted them for wearing a uniform. He said, explicitly, that he wanted to “kill whites, especially white cops”. Nothing in there about conservatives, republicans, right wingers, etc. Just whites and cops…
“He didn’t target anyone for political ideology, he targeted them for wearing a uniform.”
Sorry, JWT, but hating whites and especially white cops is a political ideology.
Bud Harton brought up an aspect I didn’t fully develop. Specifically, just how organized the Left has become in their effort to undermine President Donald J. Trump. He wrote this:
Don’t make the huge mistake of ignoring any of this as inconsequential. 160 million people have been murdered by leftists like Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot in the last 100 years ago.
You probably won’t have to really worry until they form a national organization, open offices and start recruiting.
Oh, wait, they have already have done that. Founded by James Messina and Michelle Obama, the Organizing for Action committee already has 30,000 members and has opened 250 offices:
and guess who the leader of this merry little band of unicorns is?
Barack Hussein Obama
Follow the link and see where they want to take this
Mr. Harton is correct: 250 offices. That takes big bucks and deep resources to create and maintain.
Mark Kelly’s Diapered Drooling Ventriloquist’s Dummy (yes, that’s really his/her handle) wrote this about George Schwartz/Soros’ contribution to this mess:
They, “the Left”, comprised of Socialists, Communists, their violent Anarchist (AntiFa/AntiRa) stormtroopers getting their marching orders from Globalists want it, a “revolution”, but they are woefully unprepared for battle. Sure they are effective en masse when police are ordered to “stand down” by superior officers and elected officials but once, just once, they come face to face with law enforcement not hampered by burdensome “Rules of Engagement” and feel the impact of copper-jacketed lead rather than rubber projectiles they will be forced to “up” their game or submit.
Make no mistake Globalist puppetmaster Georgy Schwartz aka “George Soros” is quite adept at financing and engineering “revolutions”, he’s successfully done it numerous times before with the latest being Ukraine where his paid thugs ousted the duly elected leader. Don’t be fooled, contrary to what the previous administration and the Liberal Media claim they are far from “bloodless” coups just look at Syria and Ukraine today, both are products of the Cultural Marxist/Fabian Socialist/Globalist “Left”. The Ferguson and Baltimore Riots were Schwartz/Soros’ handiwork as is every other “Leftist” protest/demonstration but now that we were victorious in November 2016 and President Donald J. Trump is sitting in the Oval Office the situation is more critical for our adversaries, the true enemies of freedom.
The Globalists/Socialists/Communists (Russia is no longer “Communist”) will always use rely upon the Anarchists to do their, ‘the Left’s”, dirty-work but as I have said before in numerous comments here once the Anarchists then the Socialists followed by the Communists have served their purpose they are eliminated this time the Globalists being the top of the food-chain rather than as before the Commies.
What the Hell, let them, the Left, fire the 21st Century’s “shot heard round the world” what they will receive in return is a fusillade from unrestrained law enforcement and law-abiding citizens of ALL races after all what are we to do with all that ammo we’ve been stockpiling for the last eight (8) years.
In the end we WILL emerge the victors, sure “urban” areas will suffer the most (as they should) for they are the centers for stoking unrest, they are responsible for electing the tyrants, their populace actively promotes the Liberal policies while at the same time financing and sustaining those that seek to erase our existence.
Garry-Owen37 offered this gem:
While I don’t believe it will be a traditional civil war with actual uniformed forces, squaring off against each other in the burbs, I do believe it will go alot like Ireland circa The Troubles. Or for those of us a bit young to remember that-Iraq circa 2007-now.
You have a small fringe group who was at least half of their part of the country neutral to their actions, if not, out right supporting them. They have the MSM who will run their stories and give it a good white washing. You have Higher Education who allows this type of crap to start fomenting on their campuses because their professors supported it back in the 70s. And last but not least, you have the Entertainment media who walks out on the red carpet and tells middle america how terrible they are and how the coasts are the truly enlightend ones.
So yes, the left will motivate itself to start doing dumb stuff at some point. The only things stopping them is a trip to Club Fed.
I expect car bombs, assassination attempts on right sided socio-political figures etc. The left wants to have a very safe fight. They want symbolism behind their moves more than they want actual military effecincy…effincey…eff..affi..however you spell the damn word. But it still works, because it causes fear, and it motivates the bench sitters on their side.
I could be wrong, but I watched the samething unfold in the sand box. It might take a while. but it eventually works.
More than a few of the other comments contained insightful and articulate writing.
Then, on the other hand, “The_Resisistance” flung plenty of rhetorical feces into the mix. Some call him our resident troll. Maybe T_R has too much passion, or perhaps he’s drawing a paycheck to heckle. (It wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened.)
Yesterday, he went so far as to label TTAG’s maximum leader, Robert Farago, a Nazi (despite being the son of a Holocaust survivor) while lobbing plenty of unsubstantiated allegations and charges. Here’s a sample:
And I find it hilarious that people like you are so brainwashed by every false story from whatever hate propaganda website like this one feds you.
There have been more peaceful protest than “violent” ones like this BS article talks about.
This website is what it is. Fake news.
It’s creator robert farago being nothing more than a fascist, racist, homophobic, sexist, neo-nazi coward.
The only incidents i’ve seen in this country is from right-wing freaks like you that hurt innocent people, suppress free information and free speech, intimidate innocents americans into silence with your fascist beliefs.
And face it nazi thug, Real americans outnumber un-american nutbars like you.
You’ve still not posted any evidence that proves any “left wing” attacks when in reality there are none.
Your just brainwashed puppet statistic of fake news.
Instead of arguing on the merits, The_Resisistance only offers ad hominem attacks. Bless his heart.
T_R should consider reading this story from Notre Dame’s college newspaper, The Observer:
The left’s intolerant ‘tolerance’
Tolerance should be a less confusing concept, but some would never know based on the political left’s misuse of the term.
“Homophobe” and “racist” are two terms that have been frequently thrown about in reference to people who have different opinions from those on the left. Believe in the sanctity of traditional heterosexual marriage? The left calls you a homophobe. Don’t agree with President Obama’s crippling policies? The left accuses you of being a racist, and just plain unaccepting of America’s first African-American president.
The Democratic Party and those who fall politically left often brag about being the “accepting” party and being “tolerant” of others, yet they are the ones attacking people with differing views. Senator Tim Scott recently got attacked by the increasingly liberal National Association for the Advancement of Colored People simply for being politically conservative. The group has taken such a far-left stance in recent years that they are apparently only interested in advancing liberal colored people. They went as far as to call Scott a “ventriloquist dummy” for not following liberal agenda. This sad misuse of authority has isolated the once highly benevolent organization and has continued the rift of intolerance among the politically liberal and their sycophants.
Click over and read the rest.
In the end, thanks to the People of the Gun for all of their insightful comments. We love your participation. Even The_Resisistance’s.