More than a few members of TTAG’s Armed Intelligentsia took exception to our post Springfield Adds Two New .45 ACP Model XD-E Hammer-Fired Pistols. Commentator Robert spoke for many when he wrote . . .
You can give up trying to push Springfield crap at us. They are a POS company and will always be a POS company. There is nothing they can produce that will cover their past sins. And, Dan Zimmerman, by association, you are right down there with Springfield. I will dump all your articles automatically from now on.
Regular readers will know that TTAG exposed Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms perfidy when their lobbyist engineered a carve-out on a deeply unconstitutional Illinois firearms dealer licensing law. An exception that included big box stores and enabled the bill to proceed through the legislature. Not to mention years of SA and RRA-funded cash payments to anti-gun rights legislators.
Those following the story will also know that the duo repented publicly (denying foreknowledge of their lobbyist’s spin) and spent big bucks lobbying against their lobbyist’s lobbying. The bill — recently resurrected — is dead. Again. For now.
Regardless, TTAG will not “punish” Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms or anyone else who endangers our Second Amendment protections. We will continue to cover their news and review their products fairly — despite the fact that these and other gunmakers “punish” TTAG for our no-holds-barred coverage by refusing to provide T&E sample guns and excluding us from press junkets.
So be it. TTAG is not an advocacy group per se. We’re a firearms blog. We provide news, reviews and editorials as truthfully as we can. So we don’t blacklist or boycott anyone in the firearms business, nor seek retribution for their actions or inaction.
In short, we report, you deride. OK, we do too. But without fear or favor. Thank you for supporting our work with your time.
Ha ha ha, no way in hell, $80. . . /. Christ sakes this cabin I live in is cold, drafty ass bitch and the flue pipe is glowing orange. This barrel stove ain’t worth a shit
500$ holy shit. Books stop bullets too,
Does TTAG fear they will lose credibility by not covering anti gun companies? You won’t. I just don’t understand why TTAG is so insistent on giving them free advertising.
This. That article wasn’t a critical review, it was just giving their marketing department free exposure.
…which isn’t necessarily bad, since it also lets people know about a product, but why not ALSO remind people what they did less than a year ago and add a link to your own coverage?
It’s not free advertising – it’s firearm news. TTAG is in the business of providing news regarding firearms.
Furthermore, you wouldn’t even have a complaint about Springfield if it weren’t for TTAG. TTAG did the legwork. TTAG broke the story. All that ensued was because of TTAG. You people shouldn’t sit back and spout off about how TTAG is supporting anti-2A establishments when you don’t even seem to know wtf is going on.
“For those who aren’t familiar…Ghetto Blaster is another term for…a portable stereo system popular in the late 1980s…”
Wow nick, thanks for explaining that. Or else I would have totally misunderstood it as a weapon meant to blast people in ghettos.
Fair enough…as a resident of Illinois I know TTAG was the ONLY media reporting on the quislings in question. Specifically Mr. Boch. Thank you! The “no politics”(unless WE decide it’s imporant) blog was deafening with their silence. I’ll continue to support you guys unless you pull a Springfield! Oh yeah fix the required fields…
Personally, I put the Springfield screamers in the same catagory as the Glock only fans. They can bleat frantically all they want, but they won’t stop me from selecting any firearm that fits my need. If this is unacceptable to them, then I suggest they put their head in the toilet and slam the lid repeatedly. At this might provide something useful in the form of entertainment.
^ this
Replace that first part with the “Anyone BUT Glock” crowd and I’m right there with you.
Springfield sucks, but I’m not selling my Loaded 1911 over it. I’m certainly not going to crap on a site reporting on news regarding them, even if it does mean the article get skipped over.
Definitely an exceptional individual; set up for failure with more than a touch of FAS, and a double dose of familial DNA.
Name caters to what’s left of Noveskes customer base, early to mid 20’s douche bags.
Oh come one, it’s funny. If the SJWs are offended, so much the better.
This is a blog not a major news network. As such it’s RF’s sandbox and he can do what he wants with it.
That said, I’d point out something: TTAG holds itself to a pretty high journalistic/editorial standard. When mistakes are made they are corrected.
Blacklisting companies because some readers have a problem with them isn’t holding to a standard, it’s putting your finger to the wind, seeing who whines the loudest then capitulating to them. Those companies complained about are still firearms companies and new products they put out are, by definition, firearms news. You don’t have to like it but that’s the way it is.
So quit whining and, if you don’t want to read something, SKIP IT. If you find you can’t skip an article then grow up, reach deep down in your pants, find a set of balls, and start acting like an adult instead of a spoiled child who can’t stop complaining about not getting their way 100% of the time. Oh, and stop eating paint chips too.
What a load of crap! You are the worst sort of sanctimonious jerks. “we just report” is such a load of crap. Only by turning your back on these 2nd A sellouts can you retain any credibility.
Your “policy” is akin to covering Hitler but not condemning his actions.
Bye Bye “truth” (sic) about guns…
Did you miss the part where we only know about those actions because TTAG discovered and reported them?
Think about it this way: This site’s mission is to tell the truth about guns. They told the truth about what Springfield Armory and RIA were up to. And the truth is that SA & RIA are still making guns, so this site tells the truth about that, too. Pretty simple.
Dammit. Rock River Arms, not RIA.
I’m aware of SA and RRA’s lobbying efforts, but that’s not why I take exception to them. In a world of innovative firearms they keep regurgitating the same old s*it!
I really liked my M6 Scout .22LR/.410 until it became superfluous. But I need another antique M-14 or 1911 knockoff, or a striker fired polymer frame handgun like I need a hole in the head!
Charles
How did your M6 become superflous?
Short of changes to state law or school board policies, some schools have begun selling bulletproof backpacks to their young skulls full of mush.
Those schools are going to feel incredibly conflicted the first time some kid comes to shoot up a school wearing one of those.
(Note: I think they’re a great idea, but animosity to civilian ownership and use of bulletproof vests is one of the many paranoiad attitudes the anti-gunners foster).
Anyone remember what “Cheaper than dirt” did? How about Dicks Sporting Goods? Blacklisting companies smacks of what our adversaries do…but sometimes, its justified.
The wife just told me to pipe down – she’s trying to watch TV and I can’t stop laughing.
“Is this person a civilian who has forgot to clear their weapon?” I almost choked laughing on my sleepytime tea when I read this. More often than not i’m asking myself if my fellow concealed carriers are responsible enough to remember to chamber a round!
“If a young man is brazen enough to brandish a powerful weapon just to attract attention, why would I trust they have the maturity to use it responsibly?”
You just countered your own argument, you bigoted twit.
Brandishing is a crime and is neither mature nor responsible. The person you’re talking about is a thug, not one of the tens of millions of good gun owners… stop lumping them in with the majority of us.
🤠
You do realize that LEOs routinely carry a gun, right?
Are they thugs in your mind?
And please don’t try to tell me it’s OK because they are properly trained:
https://youtu.be/X-WJMoxMfm4
Just one example.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m far from being anti-police. What I am is anti-stupid.
I Wish I Had $600-1K Burning a Hole In My Pocket To Where I Could “Afford” To Destroy an AR-15 Rifle…
Of Course If I Had That Kinda $$$ I’d Never “Destroy” It, I’d Just Add Ammo, Training, Or Just Plain Outright Get a Fancier AR-15!!!
I see black actors in gun advertising all the time now. Liz Posner is just another white female liberal racist thinking blacks don’t need guns. They just need welfare instead.
A “sportsman”? Pretty sure a “sportsman” wears plaid shorts and plays tennis/golf out at “the club”. Which seems about right for this “dude”
The Lancet editorial – “send us more money (lots more) and don’t ask where it goes” Thank you.
Stoner 63, M2, Mk 48. Thompson and MP5 would be nice too.
Man noveske is so overpriced.
ALL GUN RESEARCH MONEY EVENTUALLY TRICKLES UP TO THE (D)NC.
This OP is just one of many exposing a bunch of people who have entered the lucrative anti-gun lobby without even making it out of the closet yet.
A violation like, say, multiple neighbors complaining of gunfire coming from his yard?
Did somebody tell you the militia was a glee club?
RAT is fine, but this piece of STecs chinatoolism is just meh 🙁
I hope it was deliberate. Excellent reporting Saleh.
Check out this model offered by Vestpack. It offers all the storage and compartment capacity you’d want in a normal backpack, plus both back and chest plates rated for level IIIa protection.
Well it offers 3A plates so it’ll stop 5.56mm still my son could barely manage to hold up my old IBA with plates in it and I highly doubt he could hump that monster around with plates and books in it.
I think I have more disdain for fudds than more complete antis. I realize this is a common psychological thing but even knowing that I have a special level of animosity for fudds. They seem to be a very selfish lot.
And why is it that most anti-gun editorial writers think my skill is inadequate but the that mass murders are all John Wick level fighters?
I feel bad for Larue, but then I remember the dude taking a questionably ethical 400+ yard shot on a bull elk with a 6.5 Grendel as an advertising stunt. And then there’s the bump stock nonsense. I do wonder how this could impact Larue’s gov’t contracting.
Why the “gun theft” angle? Since “All gun owners are crazed killers.” failed, they need another way to make bad people doing violence your fault, so they can disarm everybody they don’t control.
It’s right in their name. They’re against guns, not against “gun violence”, violence, people getting hurt, or bog help them *for* people living longer doing as they like. The anti’s can’t *say* it’s about people doing as they like because in the end, they want to impose what they want on you, by force if that’s what it takes. Thugs, predators, terrorists n crazies mostly do the imposing themselves, while these anti-folk farm out the potentially wet work, n hope you won’t notice they’re behind it through the two levels of indirection: “law” n its enforcers.
That’s a Beck-level tinfoil hat explanation except everything they do fits, it predicts what they’re gonna do next, and no other story I’ve found does either. Then there’s the language leaking out. They pretend “No guns for you!” is the conclusion; the means to some other good. But, it’s not. They don’t want you having guns, n they’ll get as many people killed as they have to to do that. They’re not horrified at the violence or even lives cut short. They’re horrified that people who aren’t them can do stuff without their permission.
I’d understand these people any other way if I could: tinfoil isn’t my color.
What a completely irresponsible and stupid name.
Doc, I put one of these on a dedicated 300BLK SBR lower and haven’t looked back. It’s great to 75 yards for pigs and other varmints and in sale i got it for under $500. It’s sweet and reasonable for entry.
https://www.google.com/amp/a/s/www.opticsplanet.com/atn-x-sight-ii-day-night-riflescopes.html%3F_iv_amp%3D1?ampru=https://www.opticsplanet.com/atn-x-sight-ii-day-night-riflescopes.html?_iv_amp%3D1%26gclid%3DEAIaIQobChMIlJLAzNHS1wIVg4uzCh2uegGGEAQYASADEgLZM_D_BwE&s=ALQMoTcO7Rh3T45Un6ZJM7gdty6U-6YAHw
Share it with us.
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no likey the gotta be a ninja to avoid ads, whoever invented them is a d1<K.
TTAG running ads for RRA/SA is really not a big deal. Somebody has to pay the bills.
What TTAG does do is they don;t pull any punches. They creamed the two brothers who own Springfield Armory (there is no “Board” or stockholders) and the family that owns Rock River Arms (again, no stockholders or “Board”). They have also creamed a number of manufacturers for trying to foist off crap on the customer base.
I do occasionally write for TTAG and I did win one firearm contest though so I might be biased. Uh, nope, I like TTAG for what it provides and the freedom it allows it’s writers too
Something the fudds can chew on.
The wording of the 2nd is understood grammatically, please see Bill Whittle here: https://youtu.be/FOwy9OWfnAM
It is interesting to note the anti-2nd crowd seems to think that by arguing that individuals can’t have a grenade launcher, that the entire 2nd Amendment is somehow undermined.
Ridiculous.
I do so enjoy one entirely unexpected consequence of the 2nd Amendment – it drives the liberal/Marxist faction totally bat guano crazy.
The Army veteran who worries about civilian firearm owners who carry is self identified at the bottom of the article as “gender queer” whatever the hell that means, so this is less about guns and more about leftist political ideology. Whenever someone says I’m a gun owner and I can’t trust other gun gun owners makes me doubt wonder why they project their own inadequacies on everyone else. Also, just because you are a vet doesn’t make your opinion any more or less valuable than anyone else’s, I hate the I’m a vet so my opinion about X is more valuable, and I’m a vet.
You hate that you are a vet? Any specific reason? I won’t judge.
Awesome review as always Jon. In your opinion what’s the ideal ratio between running live fire drills and instructing/teaching during a course? In the classes you have taken, does the instructor usually spends 30% of the time teaching/going over the drills and 70% of the time shooting?
It depends on the material, but generally I prefer more instruction and dry fire drills, with live-fire used as validation. It’s just so much easier to communicate with a class prior to having rounds in the gun and the lack of a live weapon allows you to have a greater level of safety while learning new techniques.
I would prefer something closer to 50/50, or even 70/30, with the minority of the time in live fire. The more complex the movement or task, the more time needs to be spent in dry fire.
Mass shootings, to my knowledge no Catholic Church has had any shootings during service. I believe the reason is halfway through the sermon the terrorist drops his weapon and falls asleep with the rest of us.
Thanks for reminding my short memory about SA, because I was thinking about an XDS in .45, and now will take it off the consideration list. SA’s loss is a potential win for S&W’s shield.
Anyway, I don’t blame TTAG – you did your job by laying out what buddy-fuc*ers the SA management are.
For the complainers out there, go get some vagisil.
80$ ain’t bad. JWT you sure make it sound complicated though.
The exact same weapons technology existed when the 2nd Amendment was written as when Article I was written, giving Congress the authority to raise an army, or to keep a Navy. If the 2nd Amendment only protects the right to own muskets, then Article I only gives the US government the authority to raise an 18th century army, and wooden sailing ships armed with black powder cannon.
This is the first time in a long time that i am really excited about a new round. It really enhances the capabilities of the AR15 platform. Can’t wait for parts to become available.
Wow, I hope there aren’t any 1st nation members reading this other than myself, that’s some sad editorial…………..
Thank the Indians huh? Gee I got a bit of Canadian injun on my dad’s side. Something like 1/64th…thank me😆😆😆…and send $$$!
Talk about falling sales. No adds are going to bring that back.
I bet that Jeff “I thought KKK was okay until I found out they smoke weed” Sessions is going to focus primarily on the enforcement of the item on illegal use or addiction to certain substances.