For reasons that I can’t quite explain, author Dan Baum and I have become fast friends. Actually, I can explain it: professional courtesy. Dan’s one of the best writers of our time. His work is insightful, artful, literate and funny. I’ll save suitable examples of his creative genius for my forthcoming review of his latest tome. Suffice it to say, Gun Guys is a must-read—even though Dan’s attempt to walk the [non-existent] middle ground on gun rights gives aid and comfort to our enemies. Again, more on that later. For now I’ve got a pristine hardback copy worth $16.95 (msrp) for the member of our Armed Intelligentsia who can come up with a pro-Second Amendment slogan aimed at non-gun owners. Hey, if Dan can court the fence straddlers, so can we. As a man who claims to understand both gun guys, non-gun guys and gun-grabbing libtards (paraphrasing), Dan himself will choose the winner tomorrow. May the best agitprop propagator win!
The 2nd protects the other 26.
(or is it 24 leaving out the two for Prohibition)
“Guns – FUN with an extra letter”
And the current Military and police forces do such a good job of protecting church goers from violence the world over!
Here’s a slogan for ya:
“The 2nd Amendment’s just for muskets? Kinda like the 1st is just for paper. Think again.”
The existence of the 2nd Amendment ensures that we’ll never NEED (to use) it.
“Need to make a bad person stop what they’re doing NOW? Just point and click.”
This reminds me of a write-in to the SL Tribune’s opinion page last week. It’s not worth a link to, but the gist of it was it’s writer wondering aloud why the Mormon Church hasn’t made a public statement about being pro-gun control, what with being a church with gay and abortion standpoints, and they DO have those all powerful “gun free zone” signs in some of their institutions….
It wasn’t worth the time to respond, but I really wanted to challenge the author to do a little reading of his church’s history. I might not agree with everything the LDS religion stands for, but they’ll be the last church to disarm themselves- they know damn well what happens when a government comes after them. All that other crap we can hash out later- When it comes to this issue, I’m standing right alongside my Mormon neighbors, along with anybody else, affiliation be damned.
Paraphrasing Winston Churchill: “A person very rarely needs a firearm. But when they do, they need it very, very urgently.”
Americans, get your guns on.
You can keep the book.
We are gun guys……so they must be…… “RUN GUYS”
Guns are no more an invitation to violence than a lock is an invitation to a burglary.
The Second Amendment: Because absolute power corrupts absolutely, and the people are there to stop it from happening.
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This is not all that new….I bought one in March 2012 from our local Cabelas in the same skull pattern. It is very lightweight for a 12 that feeds 3-inch shells, and the pistol grip is very useful in controlling recoil. Over the past year this has become my go-to shotty for coyote calling in the brush. It is very fast-handling and the sights are excellent for varmint duty.
They’ve actually been doing it for years. After the general convention in 2000 they adopted a resolution to get handguns and “assault weapons” out of the hands and homes of people. Text is here: http://www.episcopalarchives.org/cgi-bin/acts/acts_resolution.pl?resolution=2000-B007
After that convention the diocese in Utah made the churches put up big no gun signs with pics of a cartoonish Thompson SMG at the entrances. It said, “The Episcopal Church welcomes you, but not your guns”. It was ridiculous looking and I think it lasted a week before the priest took it down.
America’s churches should be campaigning for pedophile control, not gun control. Unlikely though, since pedo control would put them out of business.
A child’s best defense against monsters is believing they don’t exist. Is that your best defense? The second amendment lets you protect you and your family from the world’s real monsters.
“The Second Amendment debate should not be about the need for “assualt rifles” and “high-capacity magazines,” just as the First Amendment does not debate the need for Islam or Hinduism. No one needs to have some many choices of religions or guns; but as American citizens, it is their right to!”
The Second Amendment – Allowing your neighbors to protect you, even if you’re unwilling to…
Other possibilities:
The Second Amendment. You don’t have to like it. You just have to honor it.
or
What part of “shall not be infringed” do you not understand?
or the bumper sticker version:
History shows when guns are outlawed, only despotic, genocidal megalomaniacs have guns.
The Bill of Rights protects the people,
Second Amendment keeps it real.
or
Second link in our Amendments Chain,
Bill of Rights lets the people reign!
or
Civil Rights start with defense of self,
Sec’nd ‘mendment keeps Bill of Rights in health.
“There is no “pro-gun” or “anti-gun”. A person labeled as “pro-gun” is a person that believes that regardless of age, gender, race, or physical health status, an individual should retain the means to defend their lives and the lives of their loved ones with force, up to and including deadly force, without having to rely on outside assistance in the gravest of extremes. A person labeled as “anti-gun” is not anti-gun. They are anti-civilian-ownership-of-guns. This means that they want to give the government and it’s cronies, as well as the well-connected, a monopoly on legal force and violence. These same people are often VERY outspoken against any sort of monopoly, and are also often against military conflict involving our government and armed forces. So, why on Earth would they want to monopolize force in the hands of the entity that they so often rally against? Is this simply a conflict of interest, or a misunderstanding of the role that firearms and deadly force play in our civilized society?”
The bothersome meme is that somehow pro-gun folks are “pro-violence”, when, in fact, specifically the carry and self-defense crowd, are pretty vehemently “anti-violence”.
The anti-gun crowd fixate on “gun violence” while hand waving away the “other”, IMHO equally disturbing occurrences of violence (whether knife, fist, beer bottle, assault, rape, etc.).
And to quote the ever quotable Jeff Cooper: “One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that ‘violence begets violence.’ I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure — and in some cases I have — that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy.” This is a “pro-stick” stance, not a “pro-violence” stance.
I love me some Col. Cooper…. quiet Ralph!
It’s commendable you would rather die than use violence in self-defense.
Now please step aside. You’re standing in front of my target.
The Second Amendment: the last resort to preserve consensual government.
Do you like the Patriot Act? Maybe crises should be wasted.
A world without guns is a world where the strongest men get to do whatever they want. Civilization as we know it is impossible without guns.
Criminals don’t submit to background checks.
“You’re free to own one… or not. Your choice.”
Back in the day, violence was challenged with a sword. These days, I recommend challenging violence with a firearm, preferably a long gun such as an AR-15. Personally, I’m EV Free, and I pack inside church. Our threat assessments indicate that the next mass shooting is more likely to occur at a church (again) than at a school (again). Historically, signs don’t stop mass shooters in schools or in churches. Anyone who does not understand or repect those facts is unfit to offer advice regarding tactics, safety, or challenging violence.
…Or educating your children.
“Because a lifetime can be determined in seconds…”
The right to keep and bear arms. My choice, not yours.
It’s not original to me, but I like:
You don’t need a gun any more than Rosa Parks needed to sit in the front of the bus.
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I think gun owners are the new civilian rights movement.
Guns are here to stay, why not get to know them?
Get a gun. If you do, you’ll certainly be glad you did. If you don’t, you might wish you had.
Go Shooting – It’s a Blast!
Be Armed – Protect the Chlidren
Guns are Funz
Gun rights are civil rights – my long standing favorite but not my own
Mine:
If any one right can be ignored, any other right can be ignored
Eat • Pray • Carry
I’m interested, but I have a question. It appears the “riser” part is hollow, just an arc of bent Kydex. Is it stiff enough to take a solid cheek weld, or does it flex? Can you lean on it like you would the riser for an adjustable stock, or for the actual stock if it came up that far?
You can vomit and defecate all you want but neither will stop a bad guy like a gun. Try one on for size.
We are at war, yet the liberal brainwashed believe nothing is wrong with thousands getting slaughtered every year. Now we have another asshat bitch looking to take away rifles. I don’t tell the church how to run their business…… Randy
FORWARD with Firearms
It’s only right to support the right that protects your right to have rights.
Right? 😉
“The Second ensures the First”
“2A protects 1A”
“We have a First and a Second, so that we do not become a Third (world)”
…………….. 2nd Amendment ………………..
Everyone’s right to keep and bear arms
…… No one needs it … until they do …….
I bought a cheek rest from Brad over Christmas. The one I got had sneaked through the QC process and wasn’t assembled like it was supposed to be. When I contacted him about it, Brad was very apologetic and went above and beyond, comping me the cheek rest and throwing in an additional set of straps. I love how it works with my M1a1. Good product and stand up guy making them.
A gun grabber does not the boot on his neck as long as he is convinced the other boot is on your neck.
Oops. Left out a word.
The gun grabber does not mind the boot on his neck as long as he is convinced the other boot is on your neck.
You’re at home with your wife and daughters…
A few drunk thugs decide to break into your house for a little fun…
What do you do??
Guns…
They Kept Us Safe
They Made Us Free
They Stand on Guard for You and Me
The Second Amendment: protecting the weak from the strong since 1791.
Pro 2A: Because I trust my family, friends, and neighbors more than my government.
Pro 2A: Because I trust my family, friends, and neighbors to do right, even when my government doesn’t.
Pro 2A: Because I trust my family, friends, and neighbors to do right when the criminals don’t.
Pro 2A: Because I trust my family, friends, and neighbors to do right when my government does wrong.
WE THE PEOPLE
Show your American Patriotism – Research the Second Amendment Today!
HOPE doesn’t keep you safe, CHANGE your mind about firearms.
Their prices for weapons are no longer “Cheaper than Dirt”. I’ve moved on from CTD to other distributors. They blinked, and I remember.
Ironic that the smart gun is unlocked internally by an RFID watch from the future, but the smart gun is locked in a stylish black case with two steel combination locks.
“Pro-Liberty, Pro-Choice – Gun Free Because I Say So; Not the Government!”
Guns are for responsible citizens. And vice versa.
Equally Armed > Equally Vulnerable
Read as: Equally Armed is greater than Equally Vulnerable
How about: “I believe in the 2nd Amendment, but I choose not to exercise my right.”
This is why the Mainline churches have been losing members, while other churches are growing rapidly.
My son went to an Episcopal school in San Antonio, and there was none of this gun control crap. A girl a few years ahead of him was a national skeet competitor. San Antonio is shotgun sports mecca. But the non-minority population of San Antonio is not nearly as liberal as that of Austin. I hope the move works well for you, if that’s what you’re doing. The summer heat WILL kill you, but it’s a very fun city if you can ignore the lefties, and at least some of the lefties there have more common sense than lefties elsewhere.
The only Austin Episcopal school I’ve seen is St Stephens. It’s location in the hills is pretty.
Weeelll… While the Episcopalians might be the American arm, overall the Episcopal is a part of the Anglican, or Church of England…
No, it’s not part of the Anglican Church. It is part of the Anglican Communion, and is a peer of the Anglican Church in Britain.
I remembered that a bunch of years ago New Jersey passed a “smart gun” law. I just looked it up and according to Wikipedia three years after NJ’s state attorney general deems smart gun tech “safe and commercially available” all new handguns sold in the state will need to include this technology. Of course the law enforcement community successfully lobbied for a police exemption (rather than lobbying against the law).
I hope this doesn’t count towards that.
Maybe we could have guns where someone could just flip a switch & they all won’t fire, a brady wet dream./// They can keep that crap in Germany, Randy
The fundamental necessity of guns is an inconvenient truth.
Not a bad message. One of the comments underneath was something like ” america has started 2 wars in the past 10 years. explain how the 2nd amendment helped protect those dead American soldiers”. First, we went to war because shit went down that was a threat to our country and to democracy, so of course we’re going to fight. Who else is gonna fight? The plucky Brits, with their air of intellectual superiority and wishy-washy attitude of act/dont act, or the French, who can’t stop whining and complaining and eating cheese and not showering long enough to pick up a rifle, let alone use it? Nope, it’s us. The country everyone loves to hate but who is on speed-dial for every time bad shit goes down. Second, these antis seem to think that just because someone has a gun, everything will automatically work out in their favor. As history and statistics show, this is definitely not the case. BUT, at least our troops, and any armed citizen for that matter, had/has a fighting chance when they are armed. Guns don’t equal automatic victory, they simply provide the best option for living through a crappy situation. And that, the ability to best defend one’s self against a terrible act as best as possible, is what we 2nd Amendment supporters want. It kills me that if shit were to go south pretty damn quick and I needed to use my AR to defend my loved ones, should I have a jam or a magazine malfunction, I would have to struggle with a bullet button and lose many valuable seconds trying to fix the problem just because some utopian liberal retard thinks that any AR owner is a psychopath. And don’t even get me started on 10 round mags. How could that go badly?
What? Dead American soldiers don’t need any protection.
I’m just quoting (loosely) what I read. And yes, they don’t need protection, other than bringing them home to rest. I apologize if my comments aren’t making a great deal of sense, my shoulder is FUBAR and my pain medication is surely affecting my (already marginal) coherence.
Guns. Because when seconds count the police are only minutes away.
A gun beats rock, paper AND scissors.
Without the second amendment, your rights can no longer be!
The second Ammendment isnt just a good idea. It’s the law.
I loved the M1; never felt much affection for the M14.
How long before one of these collides with an airliner, I wonder? They’re gonna outnumber passenger planes in a few years, if we can’t stop it.
iThink, therefore iCarry…support the 2nd Ammendment! (might get me sued by apple though…lol)
Revolutionary…the 2nd Ammendment.
Defending your freedoms requires the freedom to defend yourself.
My right, my choice…the 2nd Ammendment.
My gun is a mechanical device, not an electrical doodad. When my gun starts to use power packs and shoot death rays I’ll consider having a computer on board. Not until then. And while I’m on death rays, where’s my flying car and robot maid?
All this money “securing” the border and we don’t deport in CA unless a violent felony is committed. Sometimes not even then.
Ummmm,I got one of those things that I was born with. Free. And I love practicing. Obama and Reggie Love know what I’m talking about.
I’m thinking about ordering the Karsten rest for my Savage… Adjustable and cheaper, but you need to drill your stock (no biggy on a non-accustock savage). Ever tried it?
Yes! My problem is with my FN FAL when using a scope. I can easily replace the stock if I want one without holes for the Karsten cheek rest.
David, buy it and write a review…
“Our man Ralph would point out that police officers have drilled citizens reaching for cell phones, ”
Sounds like we need to disarm government employees to protect the citizens.
I better be careful pushing my stretcher around when Im not near a hospital. Could have crates of scary black guns. Sad thing is, an ambulance would almost be perfect for smuggling.
Time to invest in a hurst. Imagine how many rifles and pistols fit in a casket.
So they politely usher the assassin out the door? Link to the story behind this??
It’s obvious that the real raison d’etre for the DHS is to suppress any domestic insurrection and defend the government from the people. Never mind the drones, they don’t need 2700 armored trucks just to protect us from a few ragheads.
Did I read that right? Voice vote? no record of who voted for or against?
Just another day at the barbershop.
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At $45, I think I’ll stick to using an airsoft pistol.
I’ll stick to my Smith and Wesson 686 .357 and snapcap practice at home, thank you very much.
Geeze what says to me these guys are used to folks capping each other. They dont break a sweat when their friend pulls a gun in some waiting room and nearly puts nine grams in another guys head. Youtube is great for comparing street thug vs pro. There are some Italian Mafia hits caught on camera. So different from the other scenes of combat chaos. That is the aspect that amazes me.
Weapon choice and mode of carry is rightfully a personal choice. It’s all a matter of risk management. Most in the gun crowd tend to prioritize the quick draw scenario, but crimes are frequently deterred by the discrete display of a holstered weapon. And even smart people sometimes do stupid things, like forgetting to keep their fingers off the trigger until ready to fire. So I wouldn’t disparage anyone who feels they are at greater risk of a negligent discharge than to need a quick draw. There are still plenty of scenarios where carrying a firearm would save your life even if it took an extra tenth of a second to get your first shot off.
There’s also the possibility (probability) that you will be attacked by an unarmed thug. I’ve heard numerous anecdotal stories of LEOs who survived a criminal wrestling their gun from them because the criminal couldn’t figure out how to disable the safety. Some weapons will not fire a round if the magazine is dropped. If you’re a large man you might not fear an assailant taking your firearm away from you but if you’re a small woman disabling your own weapon could save your life. I personally don’t even carry a weapon as I live in a very low crime area and it would be impractical with my profession, but I keep a Beretta 92FS “house gun” chamber empty, safety on, with 15 rounds of Gold Dot +Ps on a high shelf in my office (when I’m home). I have 2 young nieces who I’ve taken shooting and have complete confidence in, but better safe than sorry.
Practice your mode of carry and hopefully you’ll be well served by your choices.
I get asked questions about loaded chambers all the time in the carry class I teach. Like most here, my opinion is that if it isn’t chambered, it’s pretty useless. I understand that people are nervous about condition one when they are new to carrying a firearm so I preach practice, practice, and more practice so they become familiar and comfortable with their carry guns. As far as a manual safety goes I don’t want one on a carry gun. I train and practice constantly but I also know that in a high stress situation all kinds of things can go wrong. I feel that dealing with a manual safety is just one more thing that could POSSIBLY go wrong so why mess with one? I’m not against a manual safety for those that want one or need one (1911’s) but it does require extra diligence and training to make sure you have the muscle memory to disengage the safety as you draw. It’s my experience that a lot of folks with carry permits don’t take more advanced training or practice enough to become really proficient with a manual safety……or even guns without one, sadly.
Another review of the pistol, in its Daewoo Dp-51 form.
The guy is a bit goofy, but does a pretty thorough video review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRKD_4IvE9I
Reservations about the safety manipulation aside, I’m still itching to try one… if for nothing else to try to support a local gun manufacturer that trying to do something new. Mmm, Cerakote!
So, if my friend who works for Smith and Wesson buys a gun with the intent to sell it to me, a legal citizen with a license, that’s a straw purchase per this new legislation? Or will it still only be a crime to transfer to prohibited people?
The latter. Any other reading would bar all gun transfers, and I can’t see a single Republican signing up for that…
The reason Robert will not carry his beloved Caracal C is b/c it is on recall. “Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury…”. The reason to carry with one in the pipe is that racking will be used against you as “premeditation”. Carry the same every day. Use a modern firearm, a quality holster, and one in the pipe. To Joe, I carry a double action with a wicked trigger pull (LCP). I have a staple gun with less pull. I think my daughter would be more likely to reupholster her doll house than to earn me an award from TTAG. But discipline – cell on charger, keys in dish, gun in quick locker.
I use one of these:
Varigrip
Adjustable and it helps my guitar playing!
fire·arm – noun – ˈfī(-ə)r-ˌärm
The surest means by which to satisfactorily resolve a really bad situation.
Or:
Who really deserves to have a rotten day? You and yours, or the bad guys…?
The 2nd aammendment: because if you want defense done right, you have to do it yourself.
GUNS……grow a pair and everything becomes clear.
GUNS……because Zyklon-B smells awful.
GUNS……the original man purse.
The Second Amendment can be the difference between a safe family or a safe criminal.
If your family doesn’t have minutes to spare waiting for the police to arrive then support the Second Amendment.
If your family needs protection don’t rely on 911, rely on 223 instead.
If the safety of your loved ones is more important to you than the safety of a criminal support the Second Amendment.
The founding fathers discovered a way for us to keep our god given rights, the Second Amendment.
Even if you choose not to exercise your Second Amendment right, you should still have the option to.
Would you rather have a firearm and not need it, or would you rather leave your loved ones unprotected because you cant have one. Support your Second Amendment.
The Second Amendment isn’t just for those who exercise it.
The liberals want to enact their own form of government,but they need to take the weapons first,as if passing a few asinine laws,will automatically make everyone who believes in the Constitution,will just throw up there hands and say we better do what they want!Most of the liberals want a leftist socialist state,where government runs everyone’s life.Kinda reminds you of some forms of government that have gone broke and fallen by the wayside.First ,it would be universal background checks,which is actually registration,then “Ya’ll need to turn in your weapons,for the safety of the children”, they always like to use a tragedy to further their agenda,then they would actually try to confiscate which would lead to a Second American Revelution,Sheriff Clarke of Milwaukee County said it best.Keep your powder dry.
“Grow up and get a clue.”
Hm, maybe I’m not the best for this. Lots of good options here.
DHS is now a defacto paramilitary organization, complete with it’s own air force. A tidy way around posse comitatus. And all in the name of “our” safety, for “our” own good……
FYI, the (T) is requirements speak for “threshold,” or the minum requirement that the platform must meet while being developed. I did a quick search for their desired objective (O), but I didn’t see it. There may be more.
As a Colorado resident, I am utterly appalled, and PISSED OFF!!! This is what happens when one party controls the House, Senate, and Governorship. Many of the gun control testimonials yesterday were from out of state individuals, not even Coloradans. I’d love to know who funded all their travel, arrangements, etc. Beware the Democrats’ “Victim Parade” in your state.
Colorado as a whole is not nearly as solid blue yet as many think. Showing their complete disdain for anyone other than a Denver/ Boulder voter might be the undoing for some local Democrats come 2014. It is always harder to fight a law in court than to prevent it in the first place, but the fights will come.
They won’t mind the loss of businesses and tax revenue. At least not until the public raises the question (they’d rather the public didn’t, as usual); but when they they come up short on revenue, I’m sure the gun-fearing public will be more than happy to take up the slack.
But they will never put two and two together. To them all events happen in a vacuum.
http://www.waltontribune.com/news/article_fec23d60-9bd5-11e2-85cc-001a4bcf887a.html
Our justice system at work…break into someones home, get shot in the face, and only get 10 years in prison (at our expense of course). Nice!
Larger guns, more bullets, and shot placement…