No real reason to jump in here other than you just mentioned “Ruger”.
Gotta love that “I dare you to break it” engineering of theirs.
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Now that’s a man-sized gun!
goddamn video
^Yup…
What was the difference between the Blackhawk shown and the Super Redhawk in .44 mag?
The Redhawk and Super Redhawk is a double action revolver. The Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk are single action. All built like tanks, which is why they are so loved by handloaders who like to push the envelope.
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The first .44 mag I ever shot was the super blackhawk. Those round, curved plowhandle grips actually aided in follow up shots. The revolver would roll back into your hands and when you brought the muzzle back down on target you could thumb cock it in the process.
The grip shape of the Ruger aided single action fire as the grip shape of the S&W 29 aided double action fire. Of the 2 I preferred the Ruger.
“Those round, curved plowhandle grips actually aided in follow up shots.”
My Super Redhawk had a fairly hefty revolver scope on it that *really* tamed muzzle-rise, while letting the shooter fully experience the raw, concussive muzzle-blast…
Never used a scope on a handgun. It makes that much difference to muzzle rise? Learn something new every day.
” It makes that much difference to muzzle rise?”
On my 7 incher S Redhawk, *YES*.
Instead of the barrel being ‘whipped’ up by the recoil, it turned it into a firm ‘shove’ upwards.
If yours is cut for rings like mine was, ask to borrow someone’s sometime and experience it for yourself.
Take an innocent typo and make something nasty of it. I knew there was a reason to keep you around. 🙂
And yes, I did miss it yesterday.
That grip shape was designed 180 years ago specifically for shooting and cocking from a horse, i.e. single handed. Of course the .44 mag recoils quite a bit more than anything they shot back then, but you might be surprised at how well that grip works firing single handed. I was even more surprised how well the birdshead grips work in .44 mag. But then if it was good enough for Billy the Kid…
mine was manuf in ’70. it had already been transfer barred and magnaported by the time i bought. i never changed the big fat wood grips the po had installed. i’ve got the old grips and the sealed bag of old trigger parts. over thirty years later gun is still strong like bull.
they shipped them back from the mod in a yellowish box. original white boxes are dumb expensive because of that.
it caused one of my narrow escapes to cry until the range master offered some non- magnum loads. that ended the tears and sniffles. magnum loads were less than fifteen dollars a box, range re- loads even cheaper but the non- jacketed rounds piled lead at the far end of the trapezoidal ports. i’m happy to find factory boxes under forty now.
.44mag is a great cartridge. it’s fun in the deagle and the 94ae.
but the ruger was my first, it would be the last i’d part with.
I haven’t bought any in years. But I always saw .44 mag in 20 round boxes. Like a rifle round. .44 special was 50 rounders, but not the mag.
huh. i’ve never bought the magnum loads in lots smaller than fifty. most of that was american eagle 240gr jhp.
theoretically the 16″ barreled 94 could toss heavier, but i’ve read that the twist rate won’t stabilize the 300 and up’s. marlin and rossi maybe, or possibly the last couple of years of the 94 had faster rates.
That is the Blackhawk I had, a three screw ruger .44 magnum. What a great shooting gun. I could shoot the nads off a fly with the thing where I couldn’t hit jack squat with my first S&W SA
Unfortunately it went down on the boat along with my Python and my Galil ARM 308.
I could just cry. That stupid MAC 10 was the only thing I managed to sell.
I’ve got the ’06 50th anniversary model which, aside from the lack of screws and the transfer bar safety is supposed to mimick the original .44 mag Blackhawk (pre-Super Blackhawk). Nice gun. I like the 6-1/2″ barrel. Didn’t care for the original rubber grips so I picked up a set of the laminated rosewood ones. Very nice looking weapon.
Had a new model super blackhawk with 5.5″ bbl that I sweated blood to acquire. It would not hit the proverbial hog in the ass with any factory or handload I could come up with in 44spl or 44mag. Had a 6″ Redhawk that was about the same. I get respectable but not outstanding accuracy from a Super Redhawk with 7.5″bbl. Beautiful gun in the video however.
I hear you – I have a 7 1/2″ Redhawk (early ’80s) and the best I can get out of it are maybe 4″ groups @ 25yds on a good day (240gr HPs). I have Hogue Bantam grips on it, and like to blame them. I have the original wood grips somewhere and will put them back on when I can find them and hope for better, though I think it will take handloads to really get the best out of it.
No real reason to jump in here other than you just mentioned “Ruger”.
Gotta love that “I dare you to break it” engineering of theirs.
ðŸ¤
Now that’s a man-sized gun!
goddamn video
^Yup…
What was the difference between the Blackhawk shown and the Super Redhawk in .44 mag?
The Redhawk and Super Redhawk is a double action revolver. The Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk are single action. All built like tanks, which is why they are so loved by handloaders who like to push the envelope.
ðŸ¤
The first .44 mag I ever shot was the super blackhawk. Those round, curved plowhandle grips actually aided in follow up shots. The revolver would roll back into your hands and when you brought the muzzle back down on target you could thumb cock it in the process.
The grip shape of the Ruger aided single action fire as the grip shape of the S&W 29 aided double action fire. Of the 2 I preferred the Ruger.
“Those round, curved plowhandle grips actually aided in follow up shots.”
My Super Redhawk had a fairly hefty revolver scope on it that *really* tamed muzzle-rise, while letting the shooter fully experience the raw, concussive muzzle-blast…
Never used a scope on a handgun. It makes that much difference to muzzle rise? Learn something new every day.
” It makes that much difference to muzzle rise?”
On my 7 incher S Redhawk, *YES*.
Instead of the barrel being ‘whipped’ up by the recoil, it turned it into a firm ‘shove’ upwards.
If yours is cut for rings like mine was, ask to borrow someone’s sometime and experience it for yourself.
BTW, did you miss this from yesterday? 😉
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/01/robert-farago/22-winchester-magnum-for-personal-defense/#comment-3775806
Take an innocent typo and make something nasty of it. I knew there was a reason to keep you around. 🙂
And yes, I did miss it yesterday.
That grip shape was designed 180 years ago specifically for shooting and cocking from a horse, i.e. single handed. Of course the .44 mag recoils quite a bit more than anything they shot back then, but you might be surprised at how well that grip works firing single handed. I was even more surprised how well the birdshead grips work in .44 mag. But then if it was good enough for Billy the Kid…
mine was manuf in ’70. it had already been transfer barred and magnaported by the time i bought. i never changed the big fat wood grips the po had installed. i’ve got the old grips and the sealed bag of old trigger parts. over thirty years later gun is still strong like bull.
they shipped them back from the mod in a yellowish box. original white boxes are dumb expensive because of that.
it caused one of my narrow escapes to cry until the range master offered some non- magnum loads. that ended the tears and sniffles. magnum loads were less than fifteen dollars a box, range re- loads even cheaper but the non- jacketed rounds piled lead at the far end of the trapezoidal ports. i’m happy to find factory boxes under forty now.
.44mag is a great cartridge. it’s fun in the deagle and the 94ae.
but the ruger was my first, it would be the last i’d part with.
I haven’t bought any in years. But I always saw .44 mag in 20 round boxes. Like a rifle round. .44 special was 50 rounders, but not the mag.
huh. i’ve never bought the magnum loads in lots smaller than fifty. most of that was american eagle 240gr jhp.
theoretically the 16″ barreled 94 could toss heavier, but i’ve read that the twist rate won’t stabilize the 300 and up’s. marlin and rossi maybe, or possibly the last couple of years of the 94 had faster rates.
That is the Blackhawk I had, a three screw ruger .44 magnum. What a great shooting gun. I could shoot the nads off a fly with the thing where I couldn’t hit jack squat with my first S&W SA
Unfortunately it went down on the boat along with my Python and my Galil ARM 308.
I could just cry. That stupid MAC 10 was the only thing I managed to sell.
I’ve got the ’06 50th anniversary model which, aside from the lack of screws and the transfer bar safety is supposed to mimick the original .44 mag Blackhawk (pre-Super Blackhawk). Nice gun. I like the 6-1/2″ barrel. Didn’t care for the original rubber grips so I picked up a set of the laminated rosewood ones. Very nice looking weapon.
Had a new model super blackhawk with 5.5″ bbl that I sweated blood to acquire. It would not hit the proverbial hog in the ass with any factory or handload I could come up with in 44spl or 44mag. Had a 6″ Redhawk that was about the same. I get respectable but not outstanding accuracy from a Super Redhawk with 7.5″bbl. Beautiful gun in the video however.
I hear you – I have a 7 1/2″ Redhawk (early ’80s) and the best I can get out of it are maybe 4″ groups @ 25yds on a good day (240gr HPs). I have Hogue Bantam grips on it, and like to blame them. I have the original wood grips somewhere and will put them back on when I can find them and hope for better, though I think it will take handloads to really get the best out of it.
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