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The culture war on firearm ownership has continued in a way that I don’t think anybody anticipated. The Supreme Court has just ruled that NCAA student athletes have a right to be compensated and take endorsement deals in connection with their name, image, and likeness. We all know the Supreme Court has also ruled that firearm ownership is a protected civil right.
Well, states are stepping in and passing laws purported to protect both the athletes and the universities that list some prohibited categories of products and services that students can associate with. One of them — you guessed it — despite the fact that it is an NCAA sanctioned sport, and that an NCAA student just won an Olympic gold medial in the shooting sports, some of the states are identifying firearms and ammunition or anything in any way related to the two as a prohibited category that these students can take endorsement deals on.
So the Supreme Court has said, firearm ownership…absolute civil right. Students have a right to take sponsorship deals on their name, image, and likeness. I’m a little confused and perplexed on why states think they can list firearms as a prohibited category.
Keep in mind this is part of the larger culture war. Everybody needs to be involved and proactive on this. I’m asking everybody to share this with any national or state organization that’s involved in the protection of Second Amendment rights. Because as I just mentioned, the NCAA and the federal government are now consulting with one another in drafting federal-level rules that in some cases will preempt the state rules.
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Easy solution: Get the hell out of those states, ASAP. Take your money with you.
No longer the optimum solution. Leftism (A.K.A. “constitutional retardation”) has spread like a…(ahem)…virus across the nation. The dumb is everywhere.
We must hold the line, wherever we may be, and fight to take our country and our culture back. Here in CA, we’ll be voting to oust Governor Newsollini in five weeks, and he’s running scared. If that happens, uber conservative Larry Elder will likely be taking his place. The pressure builds in the wrong direction, until the bubble pops in the opposite direction.
The Left has done a very effective job over the past half century of speaking loudly and pushing forcefully. Patriots have been gentlemen, but the time for that is (temporarily) past and we must take the offensive. We must speak loudly and boldly.
No, the time for conflating “gentlemen” with the other, weakness-connoting definition of “gentle” should be permanently past.
The original defining trait of gentlemen was adherence to the ethos, profession, and family tradition of driving lances through other gentlemen for a living. Our Founders removed the hereditary requirements, but in no way diminished the tradition of upholding honor unobstructed by the other kind of “gentle”, even to the point of a smallsword or pistol ball.
Be bold and loud, take the country back. But God forbid, California elects an “uber” conservative, whatever the heck that means.
“Leftism (A.K.A. “constitutional retardation”) has spread like a…(ahem)…virus across the nation. The dumb is everywhere.”
Just look at the vomit my mentally-ill little boy troll spews in here, for example.
He’s a near-daily example of what mental illness looks like, up close.
And it ain’t pretty, folks… 😉
Notice how paid manipulators will specifically avoid factual discussions and instead engage in manipulation.
Also notice how he’s skittered off and won’t engage me further.
“paid manipulators” ?
Whoever is ‘paying’ me hasn’t yet paid me.
Be a good lad and tell them to cut that check, m’kay? 😉
“uber conservative Larry Elder”
Larry Elder has been calling himself a Libertarian forever. And I think he is one of the very few (L)ibertarians or (l)ibertarians who is realistic about the world. He is not “a pie in the sky” Libertarian. And it is very telling that he has gotten VERY LITTLE attention in the main stream of white “Libertarian Journalism”. I hope he wins. I’ve got three of his books.
Or you can do what Libertarians do best.
Why It’s OK Not To Vote – Katherine Mangu-Ward
Turning tail and running is what the Libturds want. Once conservatives are gine asnd the area is overwhemed with Leftist, they will move to where you earlier ran to. It is a micro example of where does one go from the US to find freedom….nowhere. It’s freedom’s last stand.
“that list some prohibited categories of products and services that students can associate with.”
Uhhhh.. shouldn’t that be
“that list some prohibited categories of products and services that students can NOT associate with.
The way its written makes it sound like students CAN associate with “prohibited categories of products and services”
I think this needs to be looked at more closely. The NCAA official claim is that governance bodies in all three divisions adopted a uniform INTERIM policy suspending NCAA name, image and likeness rules for ALL incoming and current student-athletes in ALL sports. ALL incoming and current student-athletes in ALL sports includes shooting which has guns and ammo and is shown as an NCAA sport for student-athletes.
According to official public statement by the NCAA, prohibited categories of products and services that students can not associate with does not include shooting unless a state law prohibits it as an athletic sport.
According to official public statement by the NCAA for this interim rules (policy) thing:
* Individuals can engage in NIL activities that are consistent with the law of the state where the school is located.
* Colleges and universities are responsible for determining whether those activities are consistent with state law.
* College athletes who attend a school in a state without an NIL law can engage in this type of activity without violating NCAA rules related to name, image and likeness.
* Individuals can use a professional services provider for NIL activities.
* Student-athletes should report NIL activities consistent with state law or school and conference requirements to their school.
So according to official NCAA statement, under this interim policy, individuals can engage in NIL activities that are consistent with the law of the state where the school is located, but its up to the colleges and universities to determine if the activities (shooting is one of them) are consistent with state law. So then, according to official NCAA (policy/rules) statement unless the activity (shooting) in this case is prohibited by state law as an athletic sport the colleges/universities can’t
So are they saying one thing in public and doing another deceptively behind the scenes?
Oh wait a second…
Shooting Sports (including collectively Shotgun / Skeet / Clay Target) is a separate and distinct event from Rifle and is not an official sport of either the NCAA, NAIA or NJCAA. The governing bodies for intercollegiate shooting are the Scholastic Clay Target Program (SCTP) and the Scholastic Action Shooting Program (SASP) which are operated by the Scholastic Shooting Sports Foundation and not the NCAA. Rifle is an equivalency sport for the NCAA.
So is this an NCAA and state thing for all shooting sports or just for rifle?
Rifle (not “Rifling” or “Rifle Shooting”…its just “Rifle”) is a full-fledged NCAA-sanctioned “equivalency” championship sport. Shooting Sports for Shotgun / Skeet / Clay Target IS NOT an NCAA-sanctioned championship sport.
What if the shooters were all black transgenders, would they be endorsed!?
Interestingly enough, yes. All 50 states now have laws written or interpreted to allow all transgender students to fully participate in all allowed programs (including sports) to the “full benefit” of those programs which in this case includes endorsement because its a benefit of those programs. So get your transgender on and be endorsed, while your non-transgender peers in the shooting sport are not permitted to enjoy that benefit.
“transgender” is becoming a big problem in professional sports because of the way laws are written and rules are applied. Fort example, biological female athletes are forced to compete against males who identity as “transgender” – the males even being “transgender” have the physical advantage that females can’t overall compete with so you end up with “transgender” males using that physical advantage that are maybe not so good beating out females who are very good competing for a position on female teams.
Does any guy that is really a male see any worth in transgendering just to win some kind of athletic competition? Is the life disruption worth it? That is even more mentally corrupt than actually wanting to change your sex for real.
Are these people ‘signed’ like artists in the MPAA/RIAA? Why would Smith&Wesson need NCAA permission to use these people in adds? What prevents manufacturers and ranges from endorcing them?
The colleges themselves. If a college shooting star(get it?) was to take endorsement money, he/she could be kicked of that college.
I don’t think the college athletes should be able to take endorsements(while in college, since they are then pros), but that is only my opinion. As long as athletes from other sports are able to do so, they all should. These are legal competitions and they are not bad people for going after it.
Where are the civil rights laws protecting gun owners and gun sports?
Isn’t this what scholarships are for?
NCAA rules don’t allow product endorsement for athletes representing schools if that endorsement violates the contract the school has with the NCAA to have an NCAA sponsored team. If a student does it in violation of the terms of the school contract they lose their status as an athlete and are not allowed to be on the team or participate in any NCAA sponsored sports events. If the school allows it in violation of the contract the school looses its NCAA sponsor status and can be open to legal action. In the NCAA the students are “amateur athletes”.
OK, what prompted this change from the NCAA that athletes can now do endorsements and stuff?
There was a SCOTUS ruling in June 2021, Alston v. The NCAA. The SCOTUS ruled that the NCAA can’t limit education-related benefits, such as computers or paid internships, schools can offer athletes. This is only a short distance from saying that the NCAA can’t limit endorsements and stuff because those too can very easily be called “education-related benefits” and the SCOTUS has indicated its open to challenging the NCAA’s ban on paying athletes. So the NCAA is trying to get ahead of this probably.
So, what exactly did any student violate? They all go in knowing what the rules and laws are with this right?
What exactly has the NCAA violated? If shooting is a legitimate thing they have category for then why treat it like it isnt? Particularly in light of a SCOTUS ruling?
This whole thing sounds like bs to me.
So, what exactly did any student violate?
The answer is all or nothing. It depends on the NCAA contract with the school. All NCAA contracts with schools, until now, included that “amateur athletes” could not do the things this change makes possible now.
But even before now there was ambiguous contract language that, by its nature, permitted “show casing” of “amateur athletes” with products in a such a “pictorial or acknowledgement or affiliation’ manner as to support the brand and drive sales. The colleges are paid for this but the “amateur athletes” received nothing and the NCAA received a cut of what the colleges got. This has been a dirty little secret of the colleges and NCAA, to capitalize on the “amateur athletes” status.
The NCAA isn’t treating shooting like its not a “legitimate thing”. The NCAA only sponsors “Rifle”, not Shotgun / Skeet / Clay Target. They haven’t, as of yet, prohibited “Rifle” from endorsements and things – its some of the states which are doing it. The NCAA policy says “Individuals can engage in NIL activities that are consistent with the law of the state where the school is located. ” – if a state law prohibits “amateur athletes” in shooting “Rifle” from receiving endorsements (and the other things) then the college by its contract with the NCAA would also need to prohibit it and if the “amateur athletes” then do it anyway they get kicked out of the team and lose their “amateur athletes” status and possibly kicked out of college and are prohibited from participating in NCAA sanctioned events which in turn destroys their marketability usefulness for endorsements and the other things.
Nothing makes a young person more of an activist then trampling on their rights.
Yeah possum…I have a distant young cousin who is(or was) deeply involved in air rifle target shooting. Are these communist colleges banning pellet guns too?
Jack been posting comments at a Geoff the Pervert-esq level this morning. Speaking of, I really hope GTP takes a day off for some introspection after claiming that his ‘plight’ is equal to the Jews who were unfortunate enough to find themselves stuck in Nazi Germany. What a total joke ‘he’ is…
The actual ‘joke’ is the mentally-ill little boy (*very* little, I bet!) demonstrating his sick, obsessive behavior yet again, for all to see.
So angry and frustrated is he, and not a damn thing he can do about it!
I full expect him to be a mass shooter in the very near future, like the Parkland creep… 🙂
Geoff the Pervert is always talking about school shootings. What a horrible, creepy and disgusting thing to be fixated on. I pray he gets the help he needs before it’s too late 🤞…
He likes false flag events.
They’re very Jewish events.
“What a horrible, creepy and disgusting thing to be fixated on.”
Like how fixated you are on me?
Yeah, “horrible, creepy and disgusting” is an accurate description of both you and your trolling here.
What have you ever contributed to the conversation in TTAG, little boy? 😉
How can someone who IDENTIFIES as a “Semite” be an anti-Semite?
Are you claiming I’m against my own people?
What kind of retard are you?
Man, you sound like a dirty Jew.
In addition to being an anti-vaxx nut job, you’re also an anti-Semite as well? 🙂
When we’re ready to start taking a long hard look at the Jewish Talmud, and a long hard look at if “Israel” is even the real “Israel”, let alone a “friend” of ours. We need to start having conversations that we’ve been programmed to avoid.
More anti-Semite hate?
Show us on the doll where the bad man touched you, OK?
…writes the ‘man’ who just yesterday had the gall to analogize his ‘plight’ as a modern conservative to that of the Jews who died by the millions at the hands of Nazi Germany. Ditch this pervert and red flag risk immediately.
Except Jews didn’t die by the millions at the hands of Nazi Germany. That’s just made-up nonsense.
However, a holocaust that DID actually happen, is when 66 million Christians were MURDERED by blood-maddened Jewish TERRORISTS called “Bolsheviks” between 1917 and 1947 in Russia.
How come so little is spoken of about the REAL holocaust?
Here’s another REAL holocaust…ever heard of Eisenhower’s holocaust?
Of course not. Not in the Jew controlled media and schools.
Aww, are we hiding behind false labels to avoid factual discussions?
I’m a Semite, you retard.
Why are you so ignorant?
Sounds like this might make an excellent lawsuit to file for an industrious civil-rights attorney to file…
Geoff is a mind control wizard apparently. Either that, or he doesn’t know what a “Semite” is.
“a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs”
That is the definition. What is your alternate view of reality? And why are you posing this irrelevant, unrelated hate speech here? It is offensive to my (nonsemitic) sensibilities.
Sorry, but the control of education is a plank of communism, which is a mask that hides Bolshevism which is a mask which hides Talmudic Jewry.
Calling truth “hate speech” shows how little reverence you have for it. Clearly, the person engaged in “hate speech” is you, and the target FOR your virulent, disgusting hate speech is the truth itself.
So I AM Semitic, for the record. And your hate speech against truth is offensive to myself and my Semitic brothers and sisters everywhere.
I recommend Mark N. be banned from posting here for using HATE SPEECH against a Semitic person (myself) and for using HATE SPEECH against the truth.
Are you done hurling your anti-Semitic hate speech at me, Mark? Because if you are, I’d appreciate an apology for calling me, an actual Semitic person, an anti-Semite, as if to say I’m against my OWN PEOPLE. You should take your sick, regurgitated, pre-programmed propaganda back to the gulags of Soviet Russia where they belong.
“I recommend Mark N. be banned from posting here for using HATE SPEECH against a Semitic person (myself) and for using HATE SPEECH against the truth.”
That’s a good one!
Mark isn’t going to be banned from TTAG for one simple reason – He doesn’t make up new user names. Mark always posts as Mark N. That’s a part of being *credible*, unlike the likes of you… 😉
Tell the college and state to go pound sand and accept any viable offers. If they do anything then take them and their backdoor Gun Control to court. And find a Civil Rights Attorney who will take you out of the spotlight and put Gun Control under the microscope. Hopefully by the time it’s all said and done those on the side of Gun Control will be charged with crimes against humanity.
Add Virginia to this list. The General Assembly has added authorizing language to the current Special Session budget bill, carving out prohibitions including firearms and ammunition. Sounds like more litigation is on the way.
d. A student-athlete shall be prohibited from earning compensation for the use of his or her name, image or likeness in connection with any of the following:
1. Casinos or gambling, including sports betting;
2. Alcohol products;
3. Adult entertainment;
4. Cannabis, cannabinoids, cannabidiol, or other derivatives;
5. Dangerous or controlled substances;
6. Performance enhancing drugs or substances (e.g., steroids, human growth hormone);
7. Drug paraphernalia;
8. Tobacco and electronic smoking products and devices; and
9. Weapons, including firearms and ammunition.
8 of the 9 listed have no expressly constitutional protections, in the ‘Bill of Rights’, no less.
And the one that does is the hill they want to die on?
Bring it – It should be no problem to find a civil rights attorney to bitch-slap them in court… 😉
Second Amendment is dying in blue States. The last best hope for the 2A is in States that signed constitutional or permit less carry into law. And the “gun Community” long ago gave up on the “future” of the Second Amendment. And the future has always been about the children. Because they are the future. We are only “the present” and latter “the past”. And since children have not been taught about “the past” the future of the Second Amendment is in doubt.
The anti-civil rights Left has been in a long march to destroy the education of children. Because the anti-civil rights Left are mostly made up of unmarried childless adults. And they describe themselves as anti-nuclear family/anti traditional family. They disagreed when the Christians said a father is necessary in the family unit.
Back in the 1970s Tom Ammiano ran and won a seat on the San Francisco School Board. His stated goal was to put an end to the high school rifle teams and stop all 2A education in the public school system. As a [email protected] man with no children he should never have been allowed to run the for the school board. This type of person has no skin in the game when it comes to educating children. And much better candidate would be a [email protected] woman with kids.
And the school population in the city of San Francisco has been shrinking for decades. The sexually liberated do not reproduce.
Years later State Senate President Tom Ammiano wrote the law making rape victims, stalking victims, and everyone else, wait an extra 10 days to get a gun in California. It seems this “[email protected]” man believes he needs to tell women how and when they can protect themselves.
Ohio’s bill for allowing compensation is Senate Bill 187. I just looked through it and saw nothing that limits shooters. I know we have intercollegiate rifle and pistol teams Don’t know about the other shooting sports.
Can you smell lawsuits?