The movement continues. From the Spike’s Tactical Facebook page:
Updated Policy for State and Local Law Enforcement Agency Sales:
In light of the recent and numerous anti-gun and anti-2nd Amendment laws pending across the Nation, Spike’s Tactical will be joining other manufacturers and distributors and limiting the business we do in states that have limited the right to keep and bear arms for their citizens . . .
As of today, it will be our policy not to sell prohibited items to law enforcement agencies, government agencies and agents in states, counties, cities and municipalities that have enacted restrictive gun control laws against their citizens. We urge other companies to join in support.
[h/t Lance S.]
The problem with the Browning HPs issued in the Canadian Forces has almost always been the ancient John Inglis (JI stamped) magazines. All that is really required to rectify the stoppage problems is to get new magazines. The CF purchased a number of FN magazines a few years ago and presto!….stoppages remidied. The problem is getting rid of the old JI mags. Trust me on this one.
This makes up for their “PSA doesnt have high pressure 6.8” public meltdown.
I like that company more and more!! Glad I have an order placed with them
Exile machine also joined in Banning LEO’s as well. Now Get them to Do it to California and Colorado Too!
Solidarity! It ain’t just for unions anymore!
Good for them.
I am maintaining a list on a forum I frequent and I love updating it, really makes my day.
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Sig, Glock, and S&W need to get on this boat to make a real statement, but I have a feeling that’s just wishful thinking.
That’s the elephant in the room. So far the companies are rather small suppliers for LEO’s. If cops can’t have Glocks with standard cap mags, that will make a difference.
Yehaa’s all around!! Another company I will be proud to do business with!!
Excellent!
How about some ammo manufacturers follow this trend?
I want some .223.
Amen for that Rabbi. Good to se jewish people fight the media stigma and come out for liberty.
“The author of that email specifically stated that if I did not cease efforts to deal with gun violence…”
Um… I HIGHLY doubt that the e-mailer said he was against Yee’s “efforts to deal with gun violence.” Talk about sticking to your own spin on the facts!!! Wouldn’t want to possibly hurt your cause by actually using the language of those who oppose your ideology, eh?
I don’t want to be a hero, I just want to be alive. I home carry.
And in Florida, there is no excuse not to. Castle doctrine is strong here.
Not Insane, evil.
Most recoil-operated semi-autos can be limp-wristed unless the frame has so hefty a mass that the gun needs no more mass or force from the operator to allow the slide to fully cycle. I’ve seen aluminum aluminum framed 1911’s short stroke too.
As I’ve said several times before: I carry a Glock because a) they’re pretty reliable, and b) they’re commodity guns. If, God forbid, I’m involved in a DGU and the po-po take my heater for evidence, I’m not about to get all choked up about handing over a Glock. I’ll just go down to the LGS, plunk down six pieces of paper with that randy ol’ womanizer’s picture on the front and get another one, same day, same features, same accuracy.
A Glock gives me the same emotional appeal and attachment as owning a Chevy Vega. Glocks aren’t Nice Guns[tm], they never have been Nice Guns[tm] and they never will be Nice Guns[tm]. Why Glock fanbois invest so much adoration in a gun that’s the equivalent of a Cheby Vega, I have no idea… but then in my misspent youth, I remember friends who owned Vegas giving them flaming chicken paint jobs. Go figure.
I saw this last week, brave man, did what a man should do, too bad he didn’t have a gun handy, it might have been 2 dead BGs instead of 1 dead hero. Prayers or positive thoughts for the family.
I guess this dispels the argument that citizens who want to be armed are trying to compensate for their uniquely male anatomy.
This father did his best to protect his family and himself. Unfortunately, his bare hands were no match for two men much less two men that were armed. Shame on the citizen disarmament advocates for degrading fathers who want to be able to protect their family from violent criminals.
I found this article online and if it is true its pretty damn scary. Obama is laying the framework to purge online opponents. Basically anyone who does not obey his every command on gun control can and will most likely be labeled a homegrown terrorist. They will use the Internet to find these people. Pretty soon any pro gun website or Facebook page will probably be deemed a terrorist organization, including TTAG and all its commenters. This is from the official WhiteHouse fact paper
Our focus is on providing communities with information for staying safe online from individuals who are trying to encourage others to commit acts of violence.
I wonder if DGU articles will be put into this category? Or any article that calls gun control civilian disarmament? Because standing up for your rights and the constitution is disobedience and could be an act of violence according to Obama.
Source
WhiteHouse Fact Sheet
Secure doors and windows, and a loud alarm can buy gun owners time to better respond to intruders.
I found this article online and if it is true it’s scary. Obama is laying the framework to purge online opponents. They will use the Internet to find people they consider to be homegrown terrorist. Pretty soon any pro gun website or Facebook page will probably have this label, including TTAG and all its commenters. This is from the official WhiteHouse fact paper
Our focus is on providing communities with information for staying safe online from individuals who are trying to encourage others to commit acts of violence.
From the article
The Obama Administration has already caused the alarm bells to ring on several occasions as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) released several internal memos referring to conservative Christians who believe the Bible, pro-life citizens who are against abortion, Tea Party activists, and political conservatives who believe in a strict adherence to the U.S. Constitution as “potential homegrown terrorists.”
And in the current gun rights debate, sovereign citizens have gone on the record to oppose the Obama administration’s all-out assault on the Second Amendment, vowing to disobey any law that would violate their unfettered rights to keep and bear firearms.
I wonder if DGU articles will be put into this category? Or any article that calls gun control civilian disarmament? Because standing up for your rights and the constitution is disobedience and could be an act of violence according to Obama.
WhiteHouse Fact Sheet
(I attempted to include a link to the original article but due to the long address the filter on this site thinks it is spam)
I am ever amazed looking around the world by how my lefty/Progressive/liberal/Democrat friends seem less to believe the mainstream media’s liberal–or conservative–proclamations than my righty/romanticist/conservative/Republican friends.
Most of what gets quoted by yall commenters is sound bites from the MSM echo chamber. Step away from the keyboard, go talk to actual people in the meatworld, and I’d say you’d find that opinion is a bit more complicated than some claim.
Obviously I choose my friends like I choose my politicians–they must be pro Bill of Rights, especially the First, Second, and Fourth. Other than that, I have no time for reading nonsense from the mainstream or counter-mainstream media. That’s how I have so much time to go talk to actual flesh and blood people, and discuss how to strategize about the current Constitutional crisis. Rather than sitting around e-mailing amygdala hijacks and ad hominem glop-flinging.
for the umpteenth time, not all liberals are pro gun-control. plenty are not. I will agree with the rabbi that anyone promoting civilian disarmament is insane, but it’s not as cut-and-dried as saying liberals hate guns, conservatives love guns.
Din, I suppose you may be right. Not ALL liberals hate guns and not ALL conservatives like them. But I live in the DC area and truthfully, I’ve never met a pro-gun liberal. I’ve met pro-gun democrats, but not liberals. There may be some out there, just none I’ve met.
This was crammed down our throats, so all of you thinking you’re all safe you are not. Committee hearing attendance was 80:1 pro-gun, letters/emails/calls were 100:1. Magpul, sheriffs, people who have actually protected themselves and their businesses testified at the hearings. It did not matter, they couldn’t care less to hear from us.
The marching orders came down from above and absolutely nothing was going to change the outcome. It sailed through the House in a week. We went on vacation about 10 days ago, I’d written a few generic “protect my 2A rights” letters to my reps (all Republican). We come back to find we were just a couple steps away from being criminals. It happens that fast, people.
I’ve been in Colorado 2 decades now and the place morphed within 2 election cycles from uniquely weird but basically conservative to an irrational liberal craphole. The media is controlled, the propaganda is thick and obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.
It was Denver/Aurora and Aspen. So you people in Utah, the elite have Park City (who’s mayor is already part of MAIG) and you guys in Wyoming they are working on Jackson Hole. They get a few swings in SLC and Cheyenne (although unlikely for sure) and you’re done. New Mexico is going to be close behind us in the fall, they are debating even worse laws that would make it crime to even transfer banned objects out of the state. They are floating what seem like ridiculous laws in Missouri, but we thought when they floating them a month ago they had zero chance of success. They were literally foaming at the mouth emotional about them, it was disgusting.
I’ll freely admit that I was in full-on f*ck’em mode until I read this. Not saying that will drastically change, but a salient point is a salient point… and you definitely made one Dan. What’s the incentive for a company to see the err of it’s ways if it makes no difference in the end. I suppose it boils down to the desired end result: do ‘we’ want to see it burn down, or do ‘we’ want to illicit real change?
I think the key will be the sincerity of the change. It appears CTD had an epiphany. I honestly hope that’s the case. That’s a ‘time passing’ issue to see if they stay the course.
do these morons roll some combination of dice to come up with a mag limit?
Law enforcement officers should be much more afraid of citizen disarmament than the general populace. Here’s why. A criminal who wants a good firearm starts with a simple firearm and then helps themselves to whatever they want from a law enforcement officer that they ambush.
But, you ask, “How would a criminal acquire a simple firearm if they were outlawed?” The enterprising criminal walks into their local hardware store, spends less than $10 for a couple pieces of pipe, a wood dowel, and a nail. A few minutes later at home with a hacksaw and a file and voila: a fully functional single-shot 12 gauge shotgun capable of delivering either buckshot or a slug with acceptable accuracy at close range.
No officer in the world stands a chance versus a 12 gauge shotgun blast at point blank range from a criminal who has the element of surprise.
Anything coming from pro 2nd amendment groups will be dimply excused as propaganda, even when the supporting sources for actual DGU are cited.
But when the purely emotional, non-fact-based anecdotal drivel put out by the NYT, and earlier today, CNN.com; it in the best cases is labeled as opinion or editorial pieces, and at the worst as factual reporting.
The Antis label us as paranoid, and fear mongers, while at the same time employing a campaign of propaganda based on fear, gross exaggeration, and outright lies that prey on the naïveté of those that don’t share the same passion and interest in firearms, and the freedoms affirmed by our Constitution.
The self defense issue aside (and that should be a no-brainer, and require no convincing to anyone with a modicum of common sense), when someone that isn’t a shooter hears about the ease that one can purchase thousands of rounds of ammunition via the Internet (prior to the current bare shelf situation), especially when it’s presented by the biased media in a sensationalized article, they are shocked. When I’ve explained to some of these same people after they’ve exclaimed to me how that shouldn’t be possible, or how no one needs that much ammo, that for those of us that enjoy spending an afternoon at the range target shooting, much like others might enjoy a round of golf, purchasing in bulk provides a significant savings, and makes sound economic sense. I make it a point not to bring up tyrannical governments, or any of those justifications, as they come across as paranoia, no matter how much the framers of the Constitution had those thoughts in mind when they wrote the 2nd amendment. I’ve had surprisingly positive responses from folks that moments earlier had been buying into the MSM’s rhetoric.
If you want to discuss the impact of moronic leftist legislative action you go to the Economic Development Agency. Every gov’t entity funds such an organization to bring business and jobs to their area. You stop the business you work for buying from Colorado, or Prince Georges County MD etc .and will get the attention of those who fund political campaigns (the board of directors of said Econ Dev agency). In this case http://www.advancecolorado.com/
Maybe the “gut reaction” was to the mongolian in the gangster outfit, not the gun under his arm.
I don’t object to the content of movies. I can choose not to watch and I did away with my cable years ago. What I object too is the hollywood elite making big bucks off violence and guns and then turning around and preaching gun control. Sorta comes off as the porn industry preaching against casual sex.
Great idea. Think of all the money they can save in Colorado. Just issue ball point pens to the police. No more need for any of that expensive ammo stuff.
Now go ask those folks with the pens if they would have felt better equipped to handle the situation if they were armed with a firearm.
Calling all doctors, do the leaders of your organization speak for you?
I have a feeling this is going to be similar to when we saw a letter from the American Bar Association, and many lawyers spoke up saying their words don’t represent them.
Frankly. I am tired of the “libtard” bs that goes around here! People need to wake up and smell the coffee that the Right wing has crapped on this country with “favor the rich” policies that led to the BIGGEST crash of the economy since the 30s.
As far as gun control? Mayne foks have never been next to old fashioned bloody street violence- this isnt Mogedishu or Kabul- we actually have very efficient Law enforcement in this nation.
I do believe in gun ownership and carrying concealed, but do you really need a m60 machine gun to feel”safe?”. Hand grenades? How about anti personnel mines? No politician in their right mind is gonna go for a complete ban, legally it cannot happen without change of the constitution, and financially it cannot happen- almost every state in the union has a gun manufacturer or parts supplier that EMPLOYS people,and those people VOTE and PAY taxes!!
I have seen idiots here literally argue NO restrictions, which would legally put guns in the hands of violent ex cons, pervs, mentally ill, and other ” no gun right having folks”- again, one need look at many 3rd world countries with unrestricted gun possession- NONE of those places are safe. Even with armed women and children
IMHO, Spike Tactical- and I have several AR carbines made by them- made a stupid blunder. Sales in so called “anti gun” police agencies andstates can go a long way toward nudging Colt, and Bushmaster- who continue to get govt contracts, off their perch, and finally PROVE Spikes is tier 1
I like spike, I’m still waiting for spikes to release their titanium lightweight bcg. It’s been like 3 years, spikes don’t show products that you aren’t going to release.