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From the Second Amendment Foundation and CCRKBA . . .

Legitimate, law-abiding American gun owners are today as outraged and saddened as everyone else by the horrible acts of a crazed murderer in Uvalde, Texas. The Second Amendment Foundation and Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms join our fellow citizens to grieve the unimaginable loss suffered by the Uvalde community and the citizens of Texas.

The past 24 hours have allowed us to learn far more about the killer and the circumstances surrounding his deplorable act of violence. Unlike anti-gun-rights politicians including Joe Biden, who quickly exploited this horror to push an agenda aimed at diminishing the Second Amendment and shifting blame to millions of gun owners, we waited for more information.

If there is blame beyond that of the killer, it must be shared by political leaders whose policies have turned our public schools into soft targets, and by self-appointed activists and school boards that have resisted school resource officer programs, opposed and prohibited programs that train teachers and staff to provide armed first response in an emergency, while perpetuating dangerous “Gun Free School Zone” laws.

President Biden demanded “commonsense gun laws.” We believe it is time for common sense, period. We spend billions of dollars on foreign aid. We can provide millions of dollars to local law enforcement agencies for school resource officers. We protect our politicians with armed security. Let’s protect our schools to the same degree.

Let’s take advantage of a great resource: our retired military and law enforcement professionals. They protected our nation and our communities. They can easily protect our school children.

Instead of demonizing gun owners and the firearms industry, bring them to the table and benefit from their knowledge. Together we can succeed where the gun prohibition agenda has disastrously and repeatedly failed.

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233 COMMENTS

  1. I’ve got a question for you gun nuts: is the price of your God-given right high enough yet, or should more of our 4th graders get slaughtered over your useless hobby? You all are delusional idiots because you know we have far too many guns, yet you always want more, no matter how many children die. Hey at least no one has infringed on your rights though! Fuck those kids.

    Stupid assholes.

      • Dear Chris Henley,

        I could try to console you, reason with you, and explain my position (yet again), but you have been infected with “gun owner bigotry” and have decided that my freedom is the cause of the monstrosity of this mass school shooting. Ramos (the shooter) was not born a monster. He endured monstrosity in his life and was tortured and tormented. He could not control his demons and he himself became a monster that committed monstrosities. Oddly, instead of blaming the monster or his path to becoming a monster, you blame me and my freedom to possess weapons that I use to protect myself and family against monsters.

        So, I will do all that I can in this position and ridicule your position by purchasing, yet again, another firearm, today. I will name this firearm “The Chris Henley.”

    • you’re not a life until you come out of the womb. How do you not understand this? Women have rights to their bodies and an unborn child is not a living thing until the water breaks. learn the Science.

      • O.o Wtf this is a troll comment right? I don’t know any countries in the EU that have this policy. I think it’s a troll comment. Can’t tel anymore

    • Chris Henley

      I think I am going to purchase yet, another firearm.

      After all, the REAL science shows that guns save lives, hundreds of thousands of times, each and every year.

      I am not going to bother posting links. If you wanted to know, you would already know.

      Hmmm….10mm or 45 magnum….gotta go back and read that TTAG review, again.

      • I purchased 60 freedom seeds for my “worthless hobby” today. If I had the $ I’d have bought me a mean looking musket!😎🤓🙄

        • Just completed another carbine. First time to use an Aero Precision M4E1 stripped threaded upper. So impressed with the Aero quality and fitting an Anderson Lower snug I purchase another stripped Anderson Lower and another M4E1 stripped upper and the combo has the same fit. Only problem with the Aero is grinding my receiver clamp to fit its billet contours. Also impressed with my reasonably priced nice quality White Label Armory USGI carbine nitrate barrel 1-8, 11 degree target crown.

    • The presence of a firearm has potentially saved my life more than once. An arsonist was shot while pouring gas on our home when I was a kid. I also had to fire a rifle in defense of another. The person survived. I also saved my neighbors dog from being killed. My rights aren’t so useless after all.

    • Since you don’t come around here complaining about all the black kids being shot in Chicago since forever I think that’s very clear evidence that you’re a racist.

      Go away, racist.

        • Then you should consult the FBI statistics. Between 2000 and 2018, there were 277 “active shooter” incidents (other than gang shootings or domestic violence), with 844 killed and 1546 wounded. That is on average 47 people a year killed, and 86 injured. Yes, there is an outcry when one of these inexplicable tragedies occurs, but the fact of the matter is that these active shooter killed and wounded pale in comparison to the number of black children and teens slaughtered or wounded in gang violence each year. Last year it was roughly 15,000 murdered, and seven times that many wounded. The anti-gun crew hardly makes a peep or attempts to do anything that might have an effect on gang violence, besides calling for gun control instead of criminal control. All of these big city Democratic Party DAs seem to think that because there is a disproportionate number of blacks involved in these violent crimes committed with illegally obtained firearms, criminal control is racist.

          Mr. Henley, are you a closet racist?

        • Chris,

          Did you pay the troll toll to get into the “boy’s soul?” Asking for a friend.

        • You leftists don’t care about gangs. Evil leftists talk RACE, RACE, RACE for everything…but gangs and most of the murders done by gangs.

      • This is a response to the dumbass who keeps bringing race into it. You are the racist, I can tell. I can smell you through the internet.

        • chris…According to History your beloved Gun Control rot makes you the racist…Fact Check It you history illiterate and Apologize.

          1) The Second Amendment is one thing.

          2) The criminal misuse of firearms, bricks, bats, knives, vehicles, etc. is another thing.

          3) History Confirms Gun Control in any shape, matter or form is a racist and nazi based Thing.

        • No, Chris, what you smell are those skid marks you never wash out of your underwear. Try a little hygiene for a change.

        • But you are indeed a racist because you evil leftists don’t talk about the main murder problem (often involving firearms)…and that is GANGS. Why?

      • I agree. Public school is worthless for anything except indoctrination, and that is exactly they were created.

        • “Public school is worthless for anything except indoctrination,…”

          Leftist Scum ™ like *you* that hate American freedoms run those schools, ‘chris’.

          A very famous (and highly intelligent, BTW, according to history) man once said “Physician, heal thy self.”

          What a prime example of love and tolerance of others not like yourself you just proved to be. You can start by taking your own advice, you hate-filled bigot… 🙁

    • Guns are not the problem, lawful gun owners are not responsible for this, and attacking civil rights isnt the hill to fight on. Period.

      There are many avenues to address shootings like this and people like you are so hyper focused on regulating guns that you reject any other solution brought to the table. Ergo, we get nowhere and the killings continue.

      You are no better than the ‘gun nuts’ you think you’re better than. You are using dead children to further your political influence. Stop it.

      • I haven’t voted for one of those worthless assholes in DC since I have been old enough to vote. So I guess that theory is shot all to hell, so to speak.

        Honestly, I don’t believe passing gun laws is going to do a damn thing at this point. Far too late for that. The monster has already been created. I am just railing against you idiots that keep insisting that gun violence isn’t due to guns. And that the hundreds of millions of them we have floating around out there aren’t the issue. Just couldn’t be, could it? No. It just happens that the odds of something happening increase the more you have of that something, except in the case of guns, because that’s what you fools have convinced yourselves of.

        • Wow!
          Please explain clearly why you believe that my firearms are responsible. You use such a broad brush but you need to understand that I am not part of some collective.
          Go ahead I’m listening.

        • if you have not EVER voted for anyone….then you are the problem and really have silenced yourself as to what laws YOU WANT.

          you played yourself!

        • Practically speaking, you only use one firearm at a time, so the fact that there are more firearms than people blows the false equivalency out of the water. But what there are more of are people, and the more people you have, and assuming all other things remain equal, the number of incidents will proportionally increase with the increase in population.

        • What an amazing POS you are, Chris. I am surprised your posts aren’t deleted. Of course guns are required for gun violence, just as knives are required for knife violence, and fists are required for fist violence, and so on. Sometimes guns are necessary to prevent gun violence and all other “kinds” of violence, in fact far more than they are used to instigate violence. Guns, by definition cannot be held responsible for anything since they are not some evil talisman and have no will of their own, but we have had them for 500 years and will continue to have them all over the world. DUI accidents kill as many people including children as people do with guns, but are you calling for banning alcohol? How about banning cars? Stick your accusations where the sun doesn’t shine…

        • “Violence” isn’t due to guns. “Gun violence” is a political term to blame guns for the actions of criminals. Surprised you can’t see this. What do you think of “truck violence,” “Baseball bat violence,” “knife violence,” and “fist violence?”

        • So, . . . you don’t vote, but “we” are responsible for “gun violence”???? OK, Mr. Rational, I’ll process that along with your unhinged, fact-free rant, and your obvious ignorance about firearms, how criminals acquire them, and who actually commits crimes.

          Conclusion: You’re a partisan idiot, a close ideological cousin to our own MinorIQ and dacian the stupid. Your psychotic rant, even including wishing for my children to be shot, identifies exactly who and what you are. I pray for your diseased soul, but I doubt it will do any good.

        • Over 99% of the hundreds of millions of guns in the US are in the hands of law abiding citizens. So with less than a hundred thousand in circulation, there are not as many guns as you make it out to be. Also a question for you, why do these shooters use the AR-15 or AK47 style weapons? They were never really heard of outside of the gun community until the advent of video games. And most violent video games have as their base weapons an AR-15/M-16/M-4 and AK47. There really were no mass shootings like these before the advent of violent video games.

      • The Uvalde shooter purchased the firearm legally and was obviously a problem.

        That argument is valid when criminals illegally obtain firearms…not in this case.

        • That’s fine. You can choose what you like. Everyone else chooses what they like.

          If you think that any of this is happening because of concealed weapons then YOU are the one that is dillusional. There is evil in this world and that is NOT going to change. Even if ALL guns were wiped from the planet and from the minds of the human race for all time. People were killing people LONG before humans knew anything about guns. This event is NOT going to change that.

        • Shooter in Texas did not use a concealed weapon and interesting that you state this out of the blue, psychologically that is

          I’m curious now how will you defend yourself against multiple attackers that want your life?

    • Chris, our owning firearms did not cause this. Just as your owning a car did not cause children to die when the car they were in was hit by a drunk driver.

      Guns, alcohol, cars, planes, trains, knives or other objects are not a cause of something, they are what was used. A person made the choice. Blame the person.

      • Except for the fact that guns are made specifically to kill, and they do a much much better job of it than a knife, otherwise guns wouldn’t exist. Knives have many uses, and cars are needed to go places and do stuff, so those are poor examples.

        The problem is that no one knows who these “good guys with guns are.” Maybe if you all started wearing white hats instead of sneaking around with hidden firearms, it might help. Did the Lone Ranger do that? I don’t think so. Of course, that would mean people would expect you to help if you did that. But I am betting a whole lot of you wouldn’t do a goddamn thing.

        Further, you all have ZERO control over these guns. So, they keep falling into the wrong hands (i.e. the “bad guys”). I just want to know how you geniuses plan on revealing who is who, especially given the fact that many of these maniacs have no prior record whatsoever. Also, these kids that shoot up schools often get their guns from their “law abiding” dads. How will you prevent that?

        • “Except for the fact that guns are made specifically to kill”, yep and that’s why I own them.

        • “”the fact that many of these maniacs have no prior record whatsoever.””

          actually ALL of the big headline grabbers of this past year ALL had past records…but the police and feds stood by and did nothing.

          fix that first then give us a call…aka fix cops/feds/fbi/atf not doing its job

        • “Except for the fact that guns are made specifically to kill,”

          the car bit is a bad analogy

          try this…the booze you or others buy is ONLY for getting drunk…so lets ban all booze to fix the issue…see Jan 17, 1920 – Dec 5, 1933 for why that did not work out and made matters worse!

        • Before guns, there were knives and swords. Before those were bows and arrows, clubs, and long pointy sticks. Even further were rocks and animal bones. All used with the intention to kill someone. You can’t stop evolution of arms. The examples I gave stand based om humanities history.

          While those things were used offensively, they were also used defensively.

          Emotional arguments are not rational and ignore the real underlying issues.

          Debate me rationally and maybe we can find common ground.

        • Swords, daggers, halberds, spears, war axes, bows and arrows, and so on and so forth have no function other than killing, and have existed in one form or another for many thousand years. Man make tools intended for killing. So tell us something we do not know, that isn’t imprinted in our very DNA. Humans kill petty much everything and anything for survival, acquisition, power, etc., even each other. How many has Putin killed in the last three months? Banning guns will accomplish nothing. In China, where few have guns, when someone goes postal, he attacks a school with a butcher knife, killing anything he can get his hands on. In England, gun violence has been replaced with (just as deadly) knife violence–and bans on carrying knives have had no discernible effect.
          So grow up and accept the fact that most humans are assholes, and we can’t fix them.

        • You have NO CLUE as to how much control any of us have over these things. One way or the other.

          NOT all guns are made for killing. Some are made for games and others are made just for plinking. There are guns that are built just for intimidation. There are those that are made for nothing more than proving that a particular thing can be done. Some guns are manufactured out of the idea of obnoxiousness to the point of being completely useless for anything outside of the conversation surrounding it. Some are meant specificly for hunting. Many different guns have been made for hunting very specific animals. There are guns made just for the task of putting down horses. Some firearms are NOT intended to be much more than training tools for beginners. People have made them for prestige and as status symbols. I don’t see how someone could possibly think potato guns were made for killing people. There are heirlooms and antiques.

          But MOST guns within the general population were arguably bought for self defense.

        • Guns are made for defense, as well as hunting and other shooting sports. They are the equalizer that can stop a bad guy. sorry, I will never give up my guns, and I will always be vigilant.

        • “Except for the fact that guns are made specifically to kill…”

          No… Guns are made specifically to do what ever the user intends them to be used for. Guns are not capable of doing anything on their own.

          The change needs to be in the heart and soul of the evil person that chooses to turn an inanimate object into a weapon. Doesn’t really matter what that object is- firearm, vehicle, jet plane, gasoline, ball bat, hands and feet. Try placing the blame where it needs to sit- in the lap of someone intent on murder and mayhem.

          Fewer murders and crazy people who would even consider such acts should be the object of concern, not mere tools. With people having the mindset and delusion of such mass killers, we’ll never run out of weapons for them to use.

    • All I can tell you is that Jimmy Carter, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and the Obamas all had their school-age children completely surrounded by automatic weapons. Their school buildings were turned into armed fortresses. Now let me ask you a question.

      How many children were murdered in and around school buildings unguarded???

      While three presidents had their children with armed guards protecting them. At the taxpayers expense.

      • Is that supposed to make me feel better? That kind of proves my point and you said that with no trace of irony. So are you saying we should have armed guards and reinforced concrete walls in our schools? What sort of nightmare world is this anyway?

        Goddamn you all are stupid.

        • Ever been to Israel? They have all that and armed teachers. Armed with rifles. Because they understand evil never sleeps.

        • Chris, the hacks at this site can’t do anything about gun laws, we’ve taken it out of the public’s hands. Nothing will change no matter how many die. We are in control.

        • “So are you saying we should have armed guards and reinforced concrete walls in our schools?”

          Duh yeah. At the very least, one of the two.

          Rational humans take steps to protect what they value the most. You (I would hope, for the sake of whoever lives with you) lock your home’s door at night. Why? You value your families and you don’t have an infinite bank account to replace stolen things like expensive electronics.

          The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. School shootings happen far more frequently than the should.

          If that school’s door was hardened, a lot of kids from that school would be alive tonight.

          That’s an irrefutable fact you can’t ignore.

          The good news is, this tragedy will likely be the impetus to *finally* harden those entry points at the local level. Communities have construction workers who love their families enough that they will happily donate their considerable skills on their days off to construct those reinforcements, and the people who live in those communities will happily donate to pay for the materials.

          Something very good will come from this. Communities will now be shocked enough to create actual school security, instead of the delusional wishful thinking that “It couldn’t possibly happen in MY community!”.

          Wouldn’t you agree?

        • Quote: “Is that supposed to make me feel better? That kind of proves my point and you said that with no trace of irony. So are you saying we should have armed guards and reinforced concrete walls in our schools? What sort of nightmare world is this anyway?”

          We are saying exactly that. Let’s do something that is proven to work. Armed guards in all schools. Armed teachers, janitors, office workers, the more the better.

          In answer to your question, “what kind of nightmare world is this?” It is the world the leftist leaders in America have created by doing their best to suppress real education and indoctrinate instead. By catch and release prosecutors, “mostly peaceful” protests that destroy, burn and kill. By destroying the family by paying women to have more babies if no man is around.

          So, don’t dump your outrage on law abiding people who own guns and berate them with BS and ignore criminals who perpetrate violence unhindered.

        • What’s your solution Mr. Henley? Any one can bitch and moan…what are your solutions? Can you get creative or is it the tried-and-true BS line of “we gonna ban the guns!”

      • Well, That’s actually kinda the point.

        Those same people will tell you that they are allowed to do that but you cannot. You don’t deserve protection for your children.

        THIS is the reason for NOT disarming teachers. Gun-free zones attract these kinds of problems. Problems that really don’t happen in places where people just might shoot back. Schools that have guns at the ready are much less likely to have issues.

      • For some reason, yet again this site won’t let me reply to certain assholes on here. Maybe I am being blocked. Whatever. Here is a response to all of you: you are all wrong, period. There are too many guns, period. This is obviously not sinking in, because you all just love guns and it won’t matter to any of you how many die. You all think you’re badasses and cowboys with guns because you never grew up, just like soldiers. You are all fools, and I hope someone comes and shoots YOUR children, maybe then you will grow the fuck up. Not a single one of you get it. THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM. THAT’S WHY THIS KEEPS HAPPENING. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK, IDIOTIC SKULLS.

        • You’re hoping for someone to murder children? You wrote that out. You, chris, are why this keeps happening. Just another child killer waiting in the wings.

        • Chris, you are not a rational individual. You want someone to kill our children to make your point? That is psychotic and is disturbing that you think that way. Your not alone in those thoughts, that is the reason I carry my firearm….self defense from the likes of you.

          No, I decline the offer to “debate” you. You are not capable of reason. By emailing your probable fake throwaway account you may be trying to steal identifiable information to harm someone.

          Seek professional help, I mean that sincerely and if you own a firearm, give it to a trusted person to safeguard while you work thru your issues. Suicide or homicide is not the answer.

        • “For some reason, yet again this site won’t let me reply to certain assholes on here.”

          WordPress runs the comment section, not TTAG. Stuff not showing up is common here, because TTAG attracts far more spammers than other sites, and being drowned in spam is a real problem, and the filters are set on the tight side to stem the flood…

        • “…and I hope someone comes and shoots YOUR children…”

          That says it all right there.

        • Too many guns? Is that what you are saying causes these shootings? Well when I was in school (1965-1978) these shootings didn’t happen. In high school we brought our rifles to school on the bus for rifle team practice in the basement. Not a big deal. I bought my first military surplus semiautomatic rifle from a catalog when I was 16. It was delivered to our house directly. No background checks. The local hardware store sold me the .308 ammo. No problem. All this was in NY Long Island and not BFE. So my question to you is what changed? Certainly not access to guns. This is a societal problem. Please read this:
          https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2018/02/15/flashback-30-years-guns-schools-nothing-happened-n124076

        • “I hope someone comes and shoots YOUR children, maybe then you will grow the fuck up.”

          Wow. A few anger management sessions might help you, Chris. Seek help, seriously. I’d never wish something like that on anyone and your desperation and loss of a sense of reality proves you’ve also given up and lost the argument that you started.

          You could easily be “red flagged” as crazy in some of your more Utopian states. Get help.

        • Chris Henley wrote “There are too many guns, period.”

          There are not too many guns. More guns, possessed by people trained in their use and willing to use them in defense of their lives and the lives of others could have ended this event much sooner. The local school district disagrees with this policy, condemning the students of this district to be left defenseless. Wishful thinking….

        • Brilliant debating style, @$$wipe. Surprised you don’t run for office with that level of erudition. You are a pathetic, partisan moron, bereft of education, intellect, wit, class, or rationality. Must suck really hard to live in your diseased head.

        • Again- seek help. You’re reduced now to mere profanity. The issue’s gone, now intelligent people would be wise to start an investigation into your sanity.

        • Chris. I read all of your posts and see them degenerating into angry ravings. Posting on this site is challenging for someone who wants fewer guns in America. People on this site are not going to agree with you and many have made coherent fact based logical arguments against your position. Instead of responding to their points you have descended to obscenity and wishing for their own children to be shot. So please retract those statements and continue to make positive contributions to the dialogue. When issues become overwhelmed by emotions and people start losing their shit is when violence occurs. What I’m seeing in you is someone moving toward exactly that.

        • Debate you? What a waste of time.

          Tell you what we could do, though —

          You’d better hope that’s a throwaway e-mail address.

        • Too many of us trying to ‘debate’ you??? No “debate” has occurred, dipshit. You stormed on here, insulted a bunch of people you don’t know, wished for our children to be shot, ranted and raved, and you are complaining about lack of “debate”??? Thank God no one gives a shit what you think, or we might be upset with you, Chris the Clown.

    • Chris,
      I and maybe WE would give you an answer if you formatted the question a weeeee bit more sanely and did not talk down to us

      but till then, you do you and WE will do what is OUR RIGHT BY LAW!

        • chris…you sound like a snot nosed irritated constipated mealy mouth twerp…perhaps you need an enema?

        • That much was obvious to even the most casual observer, douchebag. Your illiterate, ignorant, ahistorical rants are noted . . . with disdain. You are a lying liar who lies. The U.S. does not have anything like the level of “carnage” you and your Leftist/fascist buddies claim.

          https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3289010

          Read it and weep, asshole. BTW, you’ve already wished for my children to be shot, so excuse me if I elect not to pay attention to the deranged rantings of a psychopath.

        • awww poor baby you’re mad?
          Well since you admitted you don’t vote no one cares what your mad at!

          funny how you passed right on by 50 other posts to your ‘questions’ all the way down to this one…scared of a real debate?

    • The real question is “Are all you numb nut gun grabbing wackos ready to work with us on really doing something about school shootings or are you all still just trying not to let another crisis go to waste?.”

        • “Chris Henley is one emotional bitch”

          Typical left-wing response of folks who think their ‘feelings’ should trump our civil rights.

          And it is indeed a civil right, Chris.

          The same as the rights of no search without a warrant, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures, and right to a speedy and public trial.

          The Bill of Rights isn’t a cafeteria, Chris. You don’t get to choose which ones you’ll take and which ones you won’t.

          You eat every last one of them on the dinner plate…

    • You sound like you’re cheering the crazies on, just to make some kind of point that we shouldn’t have guns.

      No, the price for my guns has not been paid. Want my guns, come to my house and take them.

    • Hope you do not own any firearms; your demeanor shouldn’t be overlooked. Maybe we should start caring more about how OUR children treat others, how adults treat children, how adults take care of themselves; then maybe we’ll be able to revsolve the actual problem. Nope, we keep blaming an inanimate object, rather than solving the actual issue(s).

    • Fuck you, asshole.

      There are over 100 million gun owners in this Country. They’re all colors, religions and ethnicities. The one thing they have in common is…they’re not the ones to blame.

      Look in the mirror, jerk. Your side is the one pushing criminal friendly policies. You’re a goddamn bigot. You want to blame and punish perfectly innocent people for the criminal acts of a small minority. What’s next? All Jews are responsible for the death of Jesus? All blacks are responsible for crimes committed by blacks?

      So, screw you.

    • Increasing or decreasing the difficulty in obtaining a firearm for illegal purposes is immaterial to criminals or other individuals hell bent on causing harm to themselves or others. They will always find a way. They always do.

      The real problem has two parts. First is the perception that firearms are a menace and pose a significant risk to public safety. This perception is amplified by mainstream press who sensationalize violent crimes, especially those involving firearms. This is in spite of the fact that “death by firearm” including homicide and suicide combined does not even make the top 20 in causes of death in the US. You’re more likely to be killed in a traffic accident than by a firearm. Total car accident deaths in the US last year was around 37k. By comparison, total deaths by homicide came in around 19k. Even if, all the homicides were committed by firearm, it’s still not even in the 20 leading causes of death (https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/2021/). Yet I don’t see anyone giving the same ridiculous lip service to motor vehicles. And before you go there, there is an inherent difference between motor vehicles and firearms. One is a privilege, and the other is a right granted to us in the US Constitution. I’ll let you guess which is which 😏

      The second part of the problem is that gun control in any form will only ever address the symptom, not the cause. This is true for any “weapon” used to maim or kill. To address the cause however requires society to stop bs’ing itself and do a bit of introspection. Bad parenting, drug abuse, soldiers suffering from PTSD, poverty, etc. are just a few of the ills of society that result in violence using firearms or anything else for that matter. So rather than growing the f— up, and admitting that we have real societal issues to address, we project this lack of responsibility onto other things. Firearms make the perfect scapegoat for lack of moral standards …

    • Maybe if people like you weren’t so full of hate and bullying kids wouldn’t learn that hate and bullying are ok.

      • Hate?

        He’s expressing the love and tolerance of people not like himself…:)

    • Chris Henley
      So, pray tell, just what kind of ban, restriction, or regulation would prevent someone from committing murder? And just how many firearms are too many, not enough, or just right?
      Should we ban just AR types? Or Assault Weapons? Or all semi auto rifles. How about shot guns? Pistols? All guns? Maybe we should just outlaw murder while were at it. Opps. Already illegal.
      From what has been published, the shooter had a free hand for about 20 minutes before an armed officer was able to respond. Even with a couple old fashioned revolvers, he could have done just as much damage.
      The school district here several years ago instituted a policy of locked doors and limited entrance points during school hours. You have to be “Buzzed” in after showing ID and stating your reason for visiting the school over the intercom. They also replaced the windows and glass doors with impact/bullet resistant glass and steel doors. If some little country school district here in flyover Alabama can do such, why not larger more prosperous districts?
      We also have an SRO police officer in the school during the hours students are present.
      We don’t have a gun problem. Nor a violence problem. We have a cultural problem and a badly broken mental health system. We also have a broken court system. Deal with those issues and the guns are not going to be an issue.

    • Lets start with this number: 262 Million. That’s the number of unarmed civilian noncombatants murdered by governments during the 20th century. It’s a democide that’s murdered at least six times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars in the 20th century. 262 MILLION. What about the largest mass shooting of 297 Sioux (200 of which were women and children) that were murdered by the government agents you so worship? Do you trust your government now, and forever in the future, to not take your life liberty or property by force of government? If the answer to that question is “no”, then the entirety of the gun control debate is over, and any suggestion otherwise on your part is intellectually dishonest. By all means, pledge your fealty to the all knowing and powerful state onto your very demise. You need to plant a tree to offset the massive waste of oxygen that you are.

      • ” The only good indian is a dead indian.” I cant remember the name of the Indian agent who said that.
        I’m still puzzled why the Buffalo Soldiers helped whitey kill injuns?
        Seems like after being repressed they wouldn’t have wanted to become involved.
        I bet the gubment waved the right carrots on that.
        Put them injuns on a reservation, whoops, didnt know there was oil in Oklahoma. Damnit now they’re buying up all the buffalo and building casinos.
        😁

    • Useless to you. I’m not giving up my significant investment especially when involves events related to Murphy’s law. What you purpose has no impact when it comes to actual damage control.

      How about we focus on the people involved in the events instead of objects. Focusing on objects is Intellectually lazy and disingenuous.

      Being proactive focusing on people is how we take steaps foward. In a majority of cases there were glaring warning signs. That were and are actively ignored.

    • My impression of Chris Henley……….

      ‘listen to me and do as I say’ 🤪
      ‘disarm 4 safety’ 🤪
      ‘no guns 4 responsible citizens = NO violence and murders’ 🤪
      ‘follow me to Utopia, I know the way’ 🤪

      Get help CH……ASAP!

      It wouldn’t surprise me if CH was ACTUALLY a demanding mommie to some strapped hoodrat that’s out gangbanging nightly.
      Sorry CH, I’m not willing to sacrifice my (and my families) security for the safety of the ‘crotch goblin’ you failed to raise properly. Did you kick his dad to the curb for some of those sweet .gov $s! 🤔

      Have a nice day, and good luck with your little criminal.
      Hope he doesn’t take the sidewalk temp challenge when he attemps to rob the wrong person.

      Take care now, bye bye. 👍

      • Oh, one more thing…….

        ‘……..often get their guns from their “law abiding” dads….’

        I’m a dad who has made sure both of my sons purchased and learned how to safely and efficiently handle firearms. My youngest son actually held two armed (Alum bats and fixed blade hunting knives) home intruders at rifle point, took authorities over 15 minutes to come and place them under arrest.
        He had to use his rifle because he wasn’t yet old enough to purchase/carry a handgun. Great law!🤪

        POSs like you would rather see people like my son DEAD.
        Make no mistake CH, you’re trash. Just like lil’d, whiner

    • JOE BIDEN SPONSORED THE BILL AND GOT THE LAW PASSED THAT DISARMED THESE SCHOOLS FACULTY STAFF AND ANYONE WITHIN 1000 FEET OF SCHOOLS !

      AS A RESULT CRAZY PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN COME IN AND FACE NO ARMED RESISTANCE GIVING THEM A GOD LIKE FEELING OF POWER OVER LIFE AND DEATH AND A SENSE OF INVINCIBILITY –

      PRESIDENT BIDEN’S OWN POLICIES ARE WHY THESE TRAGEDIES TAKE PLACE – AND NOW THEY CRY OUT TO DO SOMETHING & STAND UP TO GUN LOBBY AND BAN ASSAULT RIFLES AND PASS ‘”COMMON SENSE GUN LAWS” – Saying a legal adult 18 years of age should not be able to purchase an “Assault Rifle”

      THEY WANT TO IMPLEMENT THE SAME FAILED POLICY THAT RESULTED IN THIS TRAGEDY AT THE SCHOOL NATIONWIDE –

      THEY WANT TO BAN GUNS AND LEAVE ALL AMERICANS AS HELPLESS AND UNABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AS THOSE POOR KIDS IN THE SCHOOL TODAY!

      WHY DO THEY THINK DOING THE SAME POLICY NATIONWIDE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME THAN IT DID AT THE SCHOOL? TRYING THE SAME THING EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS -THATS CALLED THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY !

      IMAGINE SITTING THERE HELPLESS WITH NO WAY TO FIGHT BACK WHILE SOMEONE WITH A GUN WALKS UP AND SHOOTS YOU ONE AT A TIME! That’s WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE POOR KIDS TODAY AT THAT SCHOOL!

      WELL THATS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THEY DISARM ALL OF US – WE WILL BE UNABLE TO DEFEND OURSELVES – KEEP IN MIND THEY CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF MASS SHOOTING TO ANY INCIDENT WHERE 4 OR MORE PEOPLE ARE KILLED OR WOUNDED – THIS INCLUDES CARTEL SHOOTOUTS AT THE BORDER, DRUG VIOLENCE ON THE STREET, GANG VIOLENCE OVER TURF IN CITIES LIKE CHICAGO THAT ALREADY OUTLAW HANDGUNS –

      – ALL THESE ARE RESULTS OF JOE BIDEN’S POOR POLICIES IN REGARDS TO THE BORDER AND HIS FELLOW DEMOCRATS WHO PUT STRICT GUN POLICIES IN PLACES LIKE CHICAGO – AND THEN TO MAKE IT WORSE THEY ADVOCATE FOR LESS POLICE AND DEFUND THE POLICE WHILE AT THE SAME TIME LIBERAL DEMOCRAT PROSECUTORS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY GEORGE SOROS FRONT GROUPS LET VIOLENT CRIMINALS BACK ON THE STREET IN DAYS NOT MONTHS OR YEARS –

      -AGAIN MOST OF THIS VIOLENCE IS A RESULT OF FAILED DEMOCRATIC POLICIES AND THEN THEY CRY ABOUT IT AND USE IT AS AN EXCUSE TO IMPLEMENT THE SAME POLICIES ON A LARGER SCALE EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS?

      IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE WISDOM OF THE FOUNDERS IF THEY DO THIS NATIONALLY AND BAN YOUR GUNS YOU WILL BE AS HELPLESS AS THOSE KIDS TODAY IN THAT CLASSROOM!

      AFTER THEY TAKE YOUR GUNS, WHO IS GOING TO PROTECT YOU FROM THE CRIMINALS WHO DON’T CARE ABOUT LAWS IN THE FIRST PLACE? THE DEFUNDED POLICE??

      YOU WILL BE AT THE MERCY OF THE CRIMINALS WITH NO WAY TO DEFEND YOURSELF – THE FOUNDERS HAD IT RIGHT -AN UNARMED POPULATION ARE SUBJECTS –

      -WITH OUT OUR RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS WE CAN NOT DEFEND OURSELVES FROM CRIMINALS OR THE GOVERNMENT!

      BY THE WAY AN ASSAULT RIFLE IS A MILITARY WEAPON AND IT IS FULLY AUTOMATIC – THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR SALE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, NOR CAN THEY BE MANUFACTURED HERE FOR SALE TO CIVILIANS –

      – A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF FULLY AUTOMATIC MACHINE GUN ASSAULT RIFLES WERE GRANDFATHERED IN AND ARE HIGHLY CONTROLLED BY THE ATF –

      WHEN JOE TALKS ABOUT ASSAULT RIFLES HE IS SPREADING DISINFORMATION –

      THE WEAPON HE IS CALLING AN ASSAULT RIFLE IS ACTUALLY A SEMI AUTOMATIC RIFLE – THE DESIGNATION AR IN AR-15 DOES NOT STAND FOR ASSAULT RIFLE – ORIGINALLY IT WAS AR FOR ARMALITE THE COMPANY THAT DESIGNED & MANUFACTURED THE FIRST AR 15 RIFLES THAT EVENTUALLY WERE ADOPTED BY THE US MILITARY & THEN RE-DESIGNATED AS M-16 & M-4 !

      -THESE ASSAULT RIFLES ARE FULLY AUTOMATIC OR BURST LIMITED SELECTIVE FIRE WEAPONS –ASSUALT RIFLES ARE NOT SEMI-AUTO VERSIONS OF MACHINE GUNS –

      – THIS IS SIMPLY AN INTENTIONAL WAY TO MISLEAD LESS UNINFORMED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY, OR VETERANS –

      – IN SHORT THIS IS SIMPLY A SCARE TACTIC – A WAY TO SCARE YOU INTO THINKING THESE ARE “WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION”, WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN YOUR GRANDPA’S SEMI AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR HUNTING RIFLE – THEY ARE SEMI AUTO ONLY AND ARE NOT ASSAULT RIFLES

      – LASTLY AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY: I used to work at NSA back when spying on Americans was forbidden – now it’s almost all NSA does! When your government starts disarming you or severely limiting your access to ammo & decent Arms with firepower, then turns its intelligence apparatus inward on its own citizens, begins censoring & regulating free speech, cheats in elections, begins re-defining existing laws on the books to call Free Speech “domestic terrorism” & starts arresting/charging people as felons for possession of items that were purchased legally; AND THEN CRIES OUT TO DO AWAY WITH OUR RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS -=The ONLY thing that follows is Tyranny, Fascism, and Enslavement. -=

    • Why are you blaming everyone who didn’t do it? Giving up MY firearms will not save one life. Unless it’s the guy busting into my house at 2 am.

    • Actually, 2nd Amendment is not a God given right, it’s a constitutional right. Much like the 1st Amendment that you’re utilizing now. FYI- Without the Second Amendment, your First Amendment rights would have been demolished decades ago.

      Sincerely,

      Stupid Delusional Asshole Gun Nut Idiot w/ Worthless Hobby…that I FUCKING LOVE!

      Enjoy your Kale Chips😉

      • Chris Henly, have you had your man parts surgically removed? If not, you are a potential rapist, and just one episode away from tragically violating some innocent woman’s rights. Do the right thing, NOW, as a gesture of good will to all. Or, simply, STFU.

    • me thinks we have to many criminals that are still alive and on the street of our unGREATful SOCIETY (communist). Get rid of them, guns will NOT be needed, neither will BIG (wasteful) gov’t.

  2. It is time to come together as a team and work together on a solution – gun owners and non gun owners to protect the future of our country and the lives of our children. If the ideas and new laws we come up with can save even one life, it’s worth it. Getting guns off our streets, less guns, less dangerous assault style guns and less high capacity bullet capability will go a long way to prevent mass tragedies.

    Statistics show in majority of defensive gun use cases, the vast majority only fired three shots or less. No one needs a gun that holds more than five bullets at a time. You’re not going to war. You’re using your gun in a defense situation and that is two more bullets than the huge majority of documented defensive gun use cases. Hopefully President Biden and the Senate and House Democrat majority can get the high capacity ban in place shortly so no more copycat tragedies happen.

    • If the ideas and new laws we come up with can save even one life, it’s worth it.

      That’s a stupid infantile way of thinking and it’s NEVER the way things are done.
      There is always a cost/benefit analysis.
      And the BOR’s are priceless.

    • What you said about capacity and self defense is true. But capacity restrictions are not gonna happen. A gun ban is also unrealistic and hopelessly naive. And I don’t agree that even saving one life makes it all worth it.

      The only feasible action in a country with 1.2 guns for every person is to require at least 2 cops with AR-15s on duty at every school. This would reduce shootings immediately. If we can waste billions on endless wars and other countries we can afford this. Larger schools already have cops on duty or even a small police station. Time to make it a legal requirement for everyone.

      But democrats won’t do that, because this is the issue that keeps on giving for them.

      The only responses to this are dumbass nonsense like “guns don’t belong in schools”. Newsflash guns are already there. Shooting kids. They need a force response.

      • You don’t really need two cops per school. There are a lot of folks like me. I’m a retired person. A military vet. I would gladly show up at my local school armed and equipped as a community volunteer. I’m willing to bet there are many more like me out there. Enough that I bet we could get at least 4 for each school.

        This will not be allowed. The fascist left has need of dead children for their agenda.

        • I agree. Most States have a militia clause in their Constitutions, we could be used by our Governors for school security. One of the few responsibilities of Government is to protect those who can’t protect themselves. Who better to protect our children than those who love them more than they love themselves?

        • I agree that I think there are many of us that would volunteer some time each week.

        • Bless you jwm but that does not fit the leftist agenda which is to disarm law abiding citizens to make us subjects at the mercy of our government overlords and the heavily armed criminal element that will be savaging us worse than ever.

          The problem is “gun free safe zones” and soros appointed DAs who want to go lenient on viscious violent thugs who they see as victims of the whites and not responsible for their actions. The total ineptness of the FBI and others is a huge problem too as they continue to ignore obviously very disturbed individuals and not at least warning other authorities that might be able to help observe them.

          Whike most of us are horrified at such terror and praying, there are obviously some at the highest political levels that smile and see these events as necessary and an opportunity to force their devious agenda which will do zero to stop or reduce them. Pure evil needs to be met with overwhelmijust ng resistance including barriers and deadly force, not good intentions and signs taped to entry doors.

          Our govenment approved sending $40 billion to Ukraine with no accountability yet they refuse to spend anything to protect the public schools or borders. I have not heard or read of a single democrat who is suggesting we harden our public schools, just more gun bans and backdoor registration schemes.

          While Texas as a state encourages willing and trained teachers and staff to carry guns onsite to protect their students and themselves this particular school district prohibited such. I wonder if the parents there know that?

        • Amen, and as a retired First Responder, I’d gladly donate my time to keep the all of the kids in the school in my small town safe.

      • After watching some of them vids on how the gangs are operating I think a hi capacity magazine is a good thing.

      • “require at least 2 cops with AR-15s on duty at every school. This would reduce shootings immediately“

        That might work, until one of the guards finds out his wife is screwing somebody else and then all bets are off.

        • WTF???? MajorStupidity, try to let the drugs wear off before you post. List for me the list of LEOs that have snapped and shot up schools they were supposed to be guarding. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

          LEOs have (as any EDUCATED person knows) very high rates of divorce, depression, suicidality, and, yes, rage incidents. Yet the vast majority do their jobs quite well, DESPITE those potentially crippling psychological problems brought on, in large part, by having to do a s***ty job under difficult circumstances, while being second-guessed at every turn by Leftist/fascist @$$holes like you and dacian the stupid. You think the school resource officers are bigger threats to the children than school shooters?? You are either stupid, a partisan liar, or a tendentious s***-disturber (but embrace the healing power of “and”!!!).

          Go suck the hemhorroids of a syphilitic warthog, you disgusting s***weasel.

    • The 2A isn’t about hunting or just self defense. It’s also about defending the country and The Constitution . We’ll be needing standard capacity mags for that. Nice try, though. Douche bag.

    • It has been suggested that home invasions consist of two to four criminals attacking with sudden and overwhelming force. Five rounds means you’ll need to be extremely good with your shot placement despite the criminals having the advantage especially if they wake you from a deep sleep and it being a common expectation for at least two shots to center mass of a target. A reload in this scenario could very likely be fatal for the victim.

      If keeping standard capacity magazines saves even one life, they’re worth it. See how this works, “Dave”?

      • Also, Mr Hog, not everyone is young, agile, has good vision and hearing or able to make every shot count. Besides where do you get off telling me how much of anything I need? You and those like you are such dimwits.

        • having got old and not being as speedy as I was once….is why the bedside table firearm went from a 1911 to a Kriss in 45 with a 27rd mag
          I figure once they see the light off that or I see them in it…its all over

        • Next they will tell us how much horsepower we can have in our cars, how much Jim Beam we can keep on hand and how many cheeseburgers we can eat in a week

      • hand cuff the law abiding taxpayer, not the lunatic, repeat offending thugs? That is a great communist plan…. no thanks

    • Sounds like you mean well, but the issue is more complicated than that. For one, there are reasons people would possess standard capacity magazines (“high-capacity” is an arbitrary gun control term). That is why police officers carry guns with standard capacity magazines. But also the right to keep and bear arms is also about checking the power of the State itself.

    • The government should provide tax rebates for the purchase of firearms, ammunition and training. How’s that for an idea?

      • yep if they want all the words of the 2nd amd to be obeyed?
        then an AR15 in every home with ammo and the feds pay for training and ammo!

        my version of reparations

    • What a moron.
      1) There are probably hundreds of millions of magazines in existence that are designed to withstand taking a beating from a hammer (literally – go see all the testing videos). They will be plentiful until the day that the asteroid hits.
      2) The magazines can be printed on 3D printers so there is a never ending supply
      3) What ya going do have a “War on mags”? Oh that will work.

      Go ahead and waste your time on banning mags. That will keep you busy from accidently stumbling onto something that may impact us.

    • Hogg,

      If you are going to use statistics, use them correctly. 1-5 shots for defensive gun use comes to a minimum of 1, a mode of 3, a mean of 4.677, and a variance of 14.677. That yields a standard deviation of 3.83. So, to make sure you do not cause someone to die because their defensive situation exceeded your simplistic model of 5 shots, you would add at least one standard deviation, bringing you to a 9- shot magazine. Two standard deviations would be more secure.

      Now, since a magazine swap takes less than two seconds, a determined killer will not be prevented from continuing the killing spree because of a magazine swap, or two, or three. However, the presence of multiple armed and trained defenders will deter killers from a target.

      Then, of course, there is “…shall not be infringed…”

      I thought you were going to college?

    • “”Statistics show””

      please show them to us and wee will show dozens if not hundreds of time that having more than 10rds saved lives

      not to mention…do you even know what you are posting about?
      “Getting guns off our streets, less guns, less dangerous assault style guns and less high capacity bullet capability will go a long way to prevent mass tragedies. ”

      I don’t even know where to start on…” high capacity bullet capability” and “less dangerous assault style guns”??
      high capacity mags are normal size and a less assaulty assault gun? is that what you want..like not having this or that ‘style’ makes it a nerf gun?

      • so, shooting someone with a revolver that only holds 6 is not violent? Not offensive? How about hammers? axes? baseball bats? you communist are stupid.

    • Three MIGHT be enough–if there is only ONE home invader. What if there are, as I’ve seen reported multiple times, four? What if you miss? How many “bullets” will you need then? These are not shootouts at high noon on Main Street.

    • Umm. Let’s all agree on arresting and prosecuting criminals and forcing anyone who threatens children or schools in any way to, at a minimum, undergo an immediate involuntary 72-hour psychiatric evaluation in a state hospital. As with any involuntary psych review, if further treatment is merited, the person is retained in a secure environment where they can get the help they need.

      That should clean up 95%+ of the threat immediately.

      Then let’s invest in really securing school entrances and pick-up and drop-off points. We can and should also have armed guards there particularly during the time when students are entering or leaving the secured building. There’s the other 5%.

      This will result in a 100% improvement in school security and it doesn’t affect law-abiding people in the least. No rights are harmed by this solution.

    • Sooner or later you stupid idiots are going to realize you get absolutely nowhere quoting warped, padded, and false statistics in the most desperate of losing efforts to support your dysfunctional agendas.

    • “If the ideas and new laws we come up with can save even one life, it’s worth it.”

      40 thousand die each year in traffic accidents.

      You would think cars that don’t keep the occupants alive would be a priority for those hypocrites…

      • A lot of deer could be saved if cars only went 22mph.
        One out of every 60 deer killed by a vehicle are claimed as road kill.
        Wanton Waste, the Fish and Game has should start handing out tickets
        Run over a possum and you better have a Fur Haversters license.

    • JOE BIDEN SPONSORED THE BILL AND GOT THE LAW PASSED THAT DISARMED THESE SCHOOLS FACULTY STAFF AND ANYONE WITHIN 1000 FEET OF SCHOOLS !

      AS A RESULT CRAZY PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN COME IN AND FACE NO ARMED RESISTANCE GIVING THEM A GOD LIKE FEELING OF POWER OVER LIFE AND DEATH AND A SENSE OF INVINCIBILITY –

      PRESIDENT BIDEN’S OWN POLICIES ARE WHY THESE TRAGEDIES TAKE PLACE – AND NOW THEY CRY OUT TO DO SOMETHING & STAND UP TO GUN LOBBY AND BAN ASSAULT RIFLES AND PASS ‘”COMMON SENSE GUN LAWS” – Saying a legal adult 18 years of age should not be able to purchase an “Assault Rifle”

      THEY WANT TO IMPLEMENT THE SAME FAILED POLICY THAT RESULTED IN THIS TRAGEDY AT THE SCHOOL NATIONWIDE –

      THEY WANT TO BAN GUNS AND LEAVE ALL AMERICANS AS HELPLESS AND UNABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AS THOSE POOR KIDS IN THE SCHOOL TODAY!

      WHY DO THEY THINK DOING THE SAME POLICY NATIONWIDE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME THAN IT DID AT THE SCHOOL? TRYING THE SAME THING EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS -THATS CALLED THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY !

      IMAGINE SITTING THERE HELPLESS WITH NO WAY TO FIGHT BACK WHILE SOMEONE WITH A GUN WALKS UP AND SHOOTS YOU ONE AT A TIME! That’s WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE POOR KIDS TODAY AT THAT SCHOOL!

      WELL THATS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THEY DISARM ALL OF US – WE WILL BE UNABLE TO DEFEND OURSELVES – KEEP IN MIND THEY CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF MASS SHOOTING TO ANY INCIDENT WHERE 4 OR MORE PEOPLE ARE KILLED OR WOUNDED – THIS INCLUDES CARTEL SHOOTOUTS AT THE BORDER, DRUG VIOLENCE ON THE STREET, GANG VIOLENCE OVER TURF IN CITIES LIKE CHICAGO THAT ALREADY OUTLAW HANDGUNS –

      – ALL THESE ARE RESULTS OF JOE BIDEN’S POOR POLICIES IN REGARDS TO THE BORDER AND HIS FELLOW DEMOCRATS WHO PUT STRICT GUN POLICIES IN PLACES LIKE CHICAGO – AND THEN TO MAKE IT WORSE THEY ADVOCATE FOR LESS POLICE AND DEFUND THE POLICE WHILE AT THE SAME TIME LIBERAL DEMOCRAT PROSECUTORS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY GEORGE SOROS FRONT GROUPS LET VIOLENT CRIMINALS BACK ON THE STREET IN DAYS NOT MONTHS OR YEARS –

      -AGAIN MOST OF THIS VIOLENCE IS A RESULT OF FAILED DEMOCRATIC POLICIES AND THEN THEY CRY ABOUT IT AND USE IT AS AN EXCUSE TO IMPLEMENT THE SAME POLICIES ON A LARGER SCALE EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS?

      IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE WISDOM OF THE FOUNDERS IF THEY DO THIS NATIONALLY AND BAN YOUR GUNS YOU WILL BE AS HELPLESS AS THOSE KIDS TODAY IN THAT CLASSROOM!

      AFTER THEY TAKE YOUR GUNS, WHO IS GOING TO PROTECT YOU FROM THE CRIMINALS WHO DON’T CARE ABOUT LAWS IN THE FIRST PLACE? THE DEFUNDED POLICE??

      YOU WILL BE AT THE MERCY OF THE CRIMINALS WITH NO WAY TO DEFEND YOURSELF – THE FOUNDERS HAD IT RIGHT -AN UNARMED POPULATION ARE SUBJECTS –

      -WITH OUT OUR RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS WE CAN NOT DEFEND OURSELVES FROM CRIMINALS OR THE GOVERNMENT!

      BY THE WAY AN ASSAULT RIFLE IS A MILITARY WEAPON AND IT IS FULLY AUTOMATIC – THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR SALE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, NOR CAN THEY BE MANUFACTURED HERE FOR SALE TO CIVILIANS –

      – A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF FULLY AUTOMATIC MACHINE GUN ASSAULT RIFLES WERE GRANDFATHERED IN AND ARE HIGHLY CONTROLLED BY THE ATF –

      WHEN JOE TALKS ABOUT ASSAULT RIFLES HE IS SPREADING DISINFORMATION –

      THE WEAPON HE IS CALLING AN ASSAULT RIFLE IS ACTUALLY A SEMI AUTOMATIC RIFLE – THE DESIGNATION AR IN AR-15 DOES NOT STAND FOR ASSAULT RIFLE – ORIGINALLY IT WAS AR FOR ARMALITE THE COMPANY THAT DESIGNED & MANUFACTURED THE FIRST AR 15 RIFLES THAT EVENTUALLY WERE ADOPTED BY THE US MILITARY & THEN RE-DESIGNATED AS M-16 & M-4 !

      -THESE ASSAULT RIFLES ARE FULLY AUTOMATIC OR BURST LIMITED SELECTIVE FIRE WEAPONS –ASSUALT RIFLES ARE NOT SEMI-AUTO VERSIONS OF MACHINE GUNS –

      – THIS IS SIMPLY AN INTENTIONAL WAY TO MISLEAD LESS UNINFORMED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY, OR VETERANS –

      – IN SHORT THIS IS SIMPLY A SCARE TACTIC – A WAY TO SCARE YOU INTO THINKING THESE ARE “WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION”, WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN YOUR GRANDPA’S SEMI AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR HUNTING RIFLE – THEY ARE SEMI AUTO ONLY AND ARE NOT ASSAULT RIFLES

      – LASTLY AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY: I used to work at NSA back when spying on Americans was forbidden – now it’s almost all NSA does! When your government starts disarming you or severely limiting your access to ammo & decent Arms with firepower, then turns its intelligence apparatus inward on its own citizens, begins censoring & regulating free speech, cheats in elections, begins re-defining existing laws on the books to call Free Speech “domestic terrorism” & starts arresting/charging people as felons for possession of items that were purchased legally; AND THEN CRIES OUT TO DO AWAY WITH OUR RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS -=The ONLY thing that follows is Tyranny, Fascism, and Enslavement. -=

      • Sorry, couldn’t hear you, some @$$hole was shouting at me.

        Learn to use the caps lock, douchebag.

    • Let’s see, if memory serves, the Parkland Shooting was done with limited capacity magazines (10 rounds). 17 dead and 17 Wounded, which means the Perp fired at minimum 34 rounds. This means the Perp reloaded 4 times. All while the Cowards from Broward Sheriff’s Department spanked their monkeys in the parking lot. Oh, and that Perp too was known to the Authorities as a Psycho, but none of them could be bothered to Flag him in the NICS system.

      Your “Statistics” show no such thing.

    • Hogg, except semi-auto magazine interface weapons (the teeth of the 2nd A) with standard magazines are needed to enforce the 2nd Amendment. Why do you leftists SOOOO love “Big Gov” statist 1984 style Orwellian Neo-Marxist hells?

  3. School Board Member 1: Seems like there has been a lot of violence in public schools this past decade or so. Think we should increase security at our schools?

    The rest of the School Board: Guns are dangerous. We can increase security by banning guns from the schools. It is a simple, low-cost solution. No guns in the school, no violence in the school. That’s how we follow the science.

  4. The 54B$ Ukraine package would pay for 8 years of cops in all of the 100,000 schools of the United States at the going rate of 70K$/year for each RSO.
    That’s how much F’n money 54B$ is.

    Would probably cover 20+ years if you used ex-military and retirees instead of active cops.

    • OR we could just eliminate the laws preventing people who lawfully carry in their state from carrying in schools. Then we would immediately have an unknown number of unidentified defenders who could be anyone and anywhere. And it would cost NOTHING!

      • You know that there are many states that won’t allow that. Why bother arguing that? Also, show of hands for people who want to go against a rifle with their EDC?

        • When it is a childs life at stake? I would hope you would use your EDC, or whatever you had at hand. A knife, a stapler, hell your fists, it is a childs life and they are not able to adequately protect themselves.

        • “Also, show of hands for people who want to go against a rifle with their EDC?”

          My hand is up…to save a kid is wroth it…nuff said

        • Nice virtue signaling. Cmon, you know what I was comparing the two. Would you prefer your school have a guard with a rifle OR a teacher with his EDC when a shooter comes to school? I’m using the word “OR” just like pirate did.

        • Doesky2 we fight with what we have. Is it preferable? No.

          It is not virtue signaling. It is the reality of life.

    • you are 100% correct – but the DNC craves more shootings to use as an excuse to implement their failed policies nation wide – look at Chicago and New York – they virtually outlaw handguns yet these same cities have the most shootings than anywhere else – these gun control laws don’t work – JOE BIDEN SPONSORED THE BILL AND GOT THE LAW PASSED THAT DISARMED THESE SCHOOLS FACULTY STAFF AND ANYONE WITHIN 1000 FEET OF SCHOOLS !

      AS A RESULT CRAZY PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN COME IN AND FACE NO ARMED RESISTANCE GIVING THEM A GOD LIKE FEELING OF POWER OVER LIFE AND DEATH AND A SENSE OF INVINCIBILITY –

      PRESIDENT BIDEN’S OWN POLICIES ARE WHY THESE TRAGEDIES TAKE PLACE – AND NOW THEY CRY OUT TO DO SOMETHING & STAND UP TO GUN LOBBY AND BAN ASSAULT RIFLES AND PASS ‘”COMMON SENSE GUN LAWS” – Saying a legal adult 18 years of age should not be able to purchase an “Assault Rifle”

      THEY WANT TO IMPLEMENT THE SAME FAILED POLICY THAT RESULTED IN THIS TRAGEDY AT THE SCHOOL NATIONWIDE –

      THEY WANT TO BAN GUNS AND LEAVE ALL AMERICANS AS HELPLESS AND UNABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AS THOSE POOR KIDS IN THE SCHOOL TODAY!

      WHY DO THEY THINK DOING THE SAME POLICY NATIONWIDE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME THAN IT DID AT THE SCHOOL? TRYING THE SAME THING EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS -THATS CALLED THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY !

      IMAGINE SITTING THERE HELPLESS WITH NO WAY TO FIGHT BACK WHILE SOMEONE WITH A GUN WALKS UP AND SHOOTS YOU ONE AT A TIME! That’s WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE POOR KIDS TODAY AT THAT SCHOOL!

      WELL THATS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THEY DISARM ALL OF US – WE WILL BE UNABLE TO DEFEND OURSELVES – KEEP IN MIND THEY CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF MASS SHOOTING TO ANY INCIDENT WHERE 4 OR MORE PEOPLE ARE KILLED OR WOUNDED – THIS INCLUDES CARTEL SHOOTOUTS AT THE BORDER, DRUG VIOLENCE ON THE STREET, GANG VIOLENCE OVER TURF IN CITIES LIKE CHICAGO THAT ALREADY OUTLAW HANDGUNS –

      – ALL THESE ARE RESULTS OF JOE BIDEN’S POOR POLICIES IN REGARDS TO THE BORDER AND HIS FELLOW DEMOCRATS WHO PUT STRICT GUN POLICIES IN PLACES LIKE CHICAGO – AND THEN TO MAKE IT WORSE THEY ADVOCATE FOR LESS POLICE AND DEFUND THE POLICE WHILE AT THE SAME TIME LIBERAL DEMOCRAT PROSECUTORS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY GEORGE SOROS FRONT GROUPS LET VIOLENT CRIMINALS BACK ON THE STREET IN DAYS NOT MONTHS OR YEARS –

      -AGAIN MOST OF THIS VIOLENCE IS A RESULT OF FAILED DEMOCRATIC POLICIES AND THEN THEY CRY ABOUT IT AND USE IT AS AN EXCUSE TO IMPLEMENT THE SAME POLICIES ON A LARGER SCALE EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS?

      IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE WISDOM OF THE FOUNDERS IF THEY DO THIS NATIONALLY AND BAN YOUR GUNS YOU WILL BE AS HELPLESS AS THOSE KIDS TODAY IN THAT CLASSROOM!

      AFTER THEY TAKE YOUR GUNS, WHO IS GOING TO PROTECT YOU FROM THE CRIMINALS WHO DON’T CARE ABOUT LAWS IN THE FIRST PLACE? THE DEFUNDED POLICE??

      YOU WILL BE AT THE MERCY OF THE CRIMINALS WITH NO WAY TO DEFEND YOURSELF – THE FOUNDERS HAD IT RIGHT -AN UNARMED POPULATION ARE SUBJECTS –

      -WITH OUT OUR RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS WE CAN NOT DEFEND OURSELVES FROM CRIMINALS OR THE GOVERNMENT!

      BY THE WAY AN ASSAULT RIFLE IS A MILITARY WEAPON AND IT IS FULLY AUTOMATIC – THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR SALE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, NOR CAN THEY BE MANUFACTURED HERE FOR SALE TO CIVILIANS –

      – A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF FULLY AUTOMATIC MACHINE GUN ASSAULT RIFLES WERE GRANDFATHERED IN AND ARE HIGHLY CONTROLLED BY THE ATF –

      WHEN JOE TALKS ABOUT ASSAULT RIFLES HE IS SPREADING DISINFORMATION –

      THE WEAPON HE IS CALLING AN ASSAULT RIFLE IS ACTUALLY A SEMI AUTOMATIC RIFLE – THE DESIGNATION AR IN AR-15 DOES NOT STAND FOR ASSAULT RIFLE – ORIGINALLY IT WAS AR FOR ARMALITE THE COMPANY THAT DESIGNED & MANUFACTURED THE FIRST AR 15 RIFLES THAT EVENTUALLY WERE ADOPTED BY THE US MILITARY & THEN RE-DESIGNATED AS M-16 & M-4 !

      -THESE ASSAULT RIFLES ARE FULLY AUTOMATIC OR BURST LIMITED SELECTIVE FIRE WEAPONS –ASSUALT RIFLES ARE NOT SEMI-AUTO VERSIONS OF MACHINE GUNS –

      – THIS IS SIMPLY AN INTENTIONAL WAY TO MISLEAD LESS UNINFORMED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY, OR VETERANS –

      – IN SHORT THIS IS SIMPLY A SCARE TACTIC – A WAY TO SCARE YOU INTO THINKING THESE ARE “WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION”, WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN YOUR GRANDPA’S SEMI AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR HUNTING RIFLE – THEY ARE SEMI AUTO ONLY AND ARE NOT ASSAULT RIFLES

      – LASTLY AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY: I used to work at NSA back when spying on Americans was forbidden – now it’s almost all NSA does! When your government starts disarming you or severely limiting your access to ammo & decent Arms with firepower, then turns its intelligence apparatus inward on its own citizens, begins censoring & regulating free speech, cheats in elections, begins re-defining existing laws on the books to call Free Speech “domestic terrorism” & starts arresting/charging people as felons for possession of items that were purchased legally; AND THEN CRIES OUT TO DO AWAY WITH OUR RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS -=The ONLY thing that follows is Tyranny, Fascism, and Enslavement. -=

  5. What people should be outraged about is that many of these situations could be prevented with better security at our schools and allowing teachers to protect these kids with firearms when they are at work. They can do so when in public but for some reasons people think it is wrong to have them do it at work. Furthermore, every time you hear about one of these things and later on the truth comes out, you find you are dealing with either criminals or people known to have emotional and mental issues that have not been attended. These politicians are nothing more that lazy, do nothing people, who glorify themselves in getting reelected at any cost and really don’t give a hoot about anyone but themselves. If they really cared about us they would not defund the police, open our borders to criminals, go easy on criminals, and not press charges against people breaking the law. Once they reconcile those issues then they can tackle the real causes of violence in America.

  6. My school district already does this. I feel safe at work, and always have. In fact, the school in which I work hosts the trainings for LE responses to active shooters. We can take part if we want, as observers. Interesting thing, one of the RO’s, whom I’m friendly with and have seen at the range a time or two, asked what I thought about being an armed teacher. The trainings incorporate several dozen paid actors to simulate chaos in a crowded courtyard or hallway, and, after seeing that, I told him I wasn’t sure. I personally just don’t have enough training to feel comfortable trying to engage a single target among (at my school) thousands of running innocents. It really is chaos. And being shot by first responders responders myself would be a real concern. He said that training Could be offered and that communication and identification would obviously be worked in, and I agreed that, if that was the case, I would definitely participate in the training and see how I felt after that. Still, my school is single point entry and very, very secure with armed ROs and unarmed security. Glad my district has invested so much in that kind of safety.

  7. More info from the incident. The perp was bullied for having a speech impediment and for one time wearing eye liner in a photo. Children can be very cruel and especially on those perceived as different.

    And he shot the children and teacher in a classroom, not in the halls or outside grounds. He was a sick one who wanted to get back at a society and system that he felt betrayed him.

    Still doesn’t excuse his actions.

    And worse those who use this for their own political gain.

    • Here is why we see these shooting….

      It is the the Democrat-Left, progressivism and the cultural rot they have engendered going back almost 70 years, the sole purpose of which is the overthrow of America as founded, that is to blame for those deaths and every mass shooting death in that time period.

      https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=399278

      • Yep. Democrats turn the country into a moral cesspit and everyone’s surprised at nutters committing violence. Makes me think that’s the plan …

        • It’s called Anarcho-Tyranny.

          Allow some groups to cause mayhem to justify increasingly authoritarian crackdowns. For our own good of course.

        • “Democrats turn the country into a moral cesspit”

          The only moral cesspit I’ve seen lately was our triple adulterer, confessed sexual assaulter and grifter Donald Trump.

          Paying porn stars for sex while his third wife is at home with the new baby, that certainly qualifies as a moral cesspit, wouldn’t you say?

        • Does the name “Jeffery Epstein” ring a bell, MajorStupidity? How about Ed Buck? Bill Clinton? Or even Senile Joe, the Serial Child Molester??

          Go f*** yourself, MajorStupidity, right up the Hershey Highway with a barb wire wrapped Louisville Slugger, lubricated with battery acid and habanero juice, you partisan, lying, douchebag of an @$$clown.

    • “The perp was bullied for having a speech impediment and for one time wearing eye liner in a photo. Children can be very cruel and especially on those perceived as different.”

      then maybe its time to drag some kids into the harsh daylight?

      maybe each year the principal should have a meeting with all the students…”That kid you bully today…might be walking down the hallway at you by years end with a gun in their hand…do you still want to bully them today..OR LIVE?”

      yep its harsh and I see teachers at fault too, because you know damn well that some of them saw what was going on but did nothing!

  8. Wanna see a “red flag”………any time a lib utters the words “common sense gun control!!

      • When I hear them spout such nonsense I tell my wife to get ready for the next false flag. Seriously … I’ve been on to certain expressions used by certain people via certain communication venues to indicate to certain people a false flag event is imminent. I can no longer rule out that exists.

  9. So, I recently inspected all of my gunms in my “useless hobby” collection, and as I suspected none of them escaped from their safes and went on a killing rampage. Nor did all but one of over 600 million of their ilk yesterday. And bythe way, owning a gun doesn’t make someone a stupid asshole, but listening to the left’s inane “common sense solutions” does. Maybe they should look at fixing the real problem they have created that allows nutjobs to wander among us sane people unfettered.

  10. The ultimate goal of all gun control is confiscation. My life time license in New Zealand became a 10 year license with restrictions that moved into outright bans and confiscation. The same happened in Australia, yes a “buy back” is confiscation just under another name. In the end all one is left with is a fist full of dollars and the empty hollow promises of politicians.

  11. Suspect may have employed a Daniel defense AR 15:

    “The Texas gun store where Salvador Ramos bought the weapons he used in Tuesday’s elementary school massacre is cooperating with authorities as they investigate the attack, according to The New York Times. The general manager of Oasis Outback, a hunting store paired with a restaurant that’s located about three miles from Robb Elementary School, confirmed it was speaking with police, though he declined to name himself. An Oasis Outback employee, who declined to be named, also told The Daily Beast no one could remember a transaction with Ramos in the weeks leading up to the shooting, which left 19 students and two teachers dead. “We are all in shock,” they said. According to Texas state Sen. John Whitmire, who was briefed by state police, Ramos had bought two “AR platform rifles” shortly after his 18th birthday, including a “Daniel Defense” rifle that was found at the elementary school. The other rifle was discovered in the truck Ramos drove to the school, Whitmire said.“

    Suspect was not wearing body armor, apparently some sort of plate carrier with no inserts.

    • I own a Daniel Defense AR-15 it’s an outstanding gun. And I passed my background check. Now answer me this Batman???

      How in the world did an illegal alien, as reported by the Press, how was he able to purchase a gun in the United States legally?

      • First of all, don’t trust the rumor mills. There is no evidence to support the claim that Ramos was an undocumented immigrant and fact-checking website Snopes has confirmed this as well. As of publishing, details about the shooter are scarce, but Houston-based TV news station KPRC-TV, citing unnamed officials, reported that Ramos was “apparently from the town of Uvalde, which is 85 miles west of San Antonio, and that he was born on May 16, 2004.”

        You don’t have to show proof of citizenship, only proof of residency. The background check does not look at immigration status, only criminal record and evidence of an involuntary mental health admission. And the fact is that legal immigrants can purchase firearms.

      • The purchases (two rifles and a hand gun) are reported as having been legal. He carried one rifle and the hand gun into the school after crashing his grandmother’s truck. His grandfather says the kid did not have a driver’s license. Grandpa says he did not know about the guns, and would have done something about them if he had because he is a felon who doesn’t want to go back to prison.

    • ‘…….Suspect was not wearing body armor, apparently some sort of plate carrier with no inserts.’

      Hey Whiner, you may want to write that down on a scrap of paper and toss it over your cubicle wall to your fellow POS TTAG troll lil’d.

      He’s the one who brought that MSDNC BS narrative here to TTAG.

      Co-ord with your POG sidekick better you pathetic loser.

  12. Dems are securing even more conservative votes by this ban bs. How many people including libs bought a firearm during the madmax projected covid scare? Alienate those voters too. Guess we’ll see if they chose the correct foot to shoot into this time.

  13. I have a lot of reasons for keeping and bearing arms. The motivations may change in importance from time to time, but one remains constant — the Democrats and their communist and gangster allies don’t want me to be able to protect myself. All other motivations are important, but that one is critical.

    If Monkey Pox Joe and his crazy cohorts want my gunms, they can KMA.

    • The way trends are going, I’m betting that my rifles are more likely to be used on rampaging leftists then on a burglar. So be it.

      • That’s what I’ve been training for since before I retired in 2016. I’ve learned to view the leftists and hate sub-groups comprising most of the Democrat (Communist) Party the very same, and same threats, as Al-Qaeda, HAMAS, Boko Haram, the UN, and other dangerous scum of the world.

        We have a POTUS that screams gun-control while he says he’s proud of his felonious son when he’s confronted about how this same son knowingly and intentionally fraudulized information on an ATF Form 4473 to purchase a firearm he legally cannot own or possess. When this warped bastard and his former call-girl Vice POTUS get their own house in order then, and only then, should WE THE PROPLE even consider talking about domestic terrorism.

  14. Common sense ain’t coming from our government. None to spare.
    Hey, if more laws work, why not make murder, assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder and fleeing from police illegal?
    I can’t believe the stupidity of people that think it’s the weapon, not the villain. The guy was a nutjob and he/she/it would have found some other device to use.

  15. Why won’t one of these banners ELI5 how exactly you go about rounding up 700,000,000 guns? Are they willing to seal the borders to prevent smuggling?

    • These are the same people that said we can’t deport illegals because there are too many of them. Which is easier to hide, a person or a gun? Keep in mind, they were saying that back when they were pretending there were “only” about 10 million illegals here. A study confirmed it was more like 20 million before the Puppet invited a border surge to overwhelm the system.

  16. Surprise surprise, once again signs of “gun free safe zone” taped to entry doors failed to disuade another mentally ill homicidal maniac and actually had the oppisite effect being read as in “come in homicidal maniac as you will not be reisisted.”

    Why are parents in schools districts that use this methos of security good with that? They think it won’t happen to them I guess and don’t want to spend a little more money on their tax bills to protects their student children. You pretty much get what you pay for when it comes to security.

    Horrific situation but people need to look at the reality of schools being easy targets for these demented individuals and government proposals for more gun laws won’t make a bit of difference. More than a few of these murderers had no problem murdering close family members to get their needed tool of mayhem. Solutions need to focus on stopping that kind of threat.

    • I agree 100%
      “GUN FREE ZONES” = “TARGET RICH ENVIRONMENTS” This has been proven every single time one of the massacres occurs.

      How’s that for a little Common Sense?

  17. This is 100% the fault of the far-left Democrats. The left has been empowering criminals by letting them out of jail without bond and without consequences to commit more crimes. They’ve been appointing do-nothing prosecutors who see their job as empowering criminals. It was the left who fought AGAINST fortifying schools against such attacks. The left fought against putting armed officers in schools to protect children.

    THE LEFT FOUGHT COMMON SENSE TO LEAVE YOUR CHILDREN UNDEFENDED.

    Then we find all of the incidents of grooming children and coercing them into alternate sexual lifestyles – IN GRADE SCHOOL.

    Now the left wants you undefended. They want only criminals to have guns. Because, let’s be honest, once you’re disarmed the left figures they can pay the criminals to prey upon you.

    The left: fighting to allow criminals to run amok in your town and victimize children.

    HOW DO YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF SUCH PEOPLE???

  18. Oh, and we are gleefully sending guns, ammo, and over $40 Billion to Ukraine, but we can’t find pocket change to protect our public schools and borders?

  19. Here is a piece of government incompetency gold.

    The school supposedly “did all the hardening requirements” but yet the killer entered in through an “unlocked back door”.

    WTF?

    • Sounds like the famlies should sue and win hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars for such negligence and to send a message to other school districts that security of students and staff must be taked seriously and people held accontable, at least as seriously as federal courthouses and such.

      Sadly security procedures are only as strong as their weakest link which usually is human lazines, incompetance, and attitude “it will never happen here”. I have even seen door alarms disabled due to people not wanting to follow procedure – people can let themselves in when I am on lunch or break, etc. Security needs multiple layers as in how do we secure when the perimeter is breached for whatever reason. Clearly this school had no such protocol and probably is about the same as almoat all other public schools.

  20. quote—————–We spend billions of dollars on foreign aid. We can provide millions of dollars to local law enforcement agencies for school resource officers. ———-quote

    More Right Wing horseshit and propaganda

    Foreign aid is money, technical assistance, and commodities that the United States provides to other countries in support of a common interest of the U.S. and that country. Opinion polls consistently report that Americans believe foreign aid is about 25% of the federal budget, when it is actually less than 1%. As the world’s wealthiest nation, the U.S. provides more assistance than any other country, but a smaller proportion of its gross national product (GNP) than other wealthy nations. Historically, support for foreign aid has been bipartisan.

    https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020/votervital/what-every-american-should-know-about-us-foreign-aid/

    • Yeah, dacian the stupid, tell us all about our “common interest” with the Mad Mullahs in Iran, who’ve received BILLIONS in “foreign aid” from your hero, Barry Soetoro. You’re too f***ing stuipid to breathe. Go back to your circle jerk, @$$wipe.

  21. Second edition – first edition edited due to this site fast becoming publishers.

    Sounds like you’re one of the stupid useless fools that voted for Biden or whoever promised you or your decrepit offspring the most freebies. You never criticize those who could change things for the better to avoid this, instead you just jump on the corrupted bandwagon of those offering to do everything for you. I don’t hear you complaining about all the billions sent to Biden’s money laundering country Ukraine. I also don’t hear you complain about all the formula sent to the ILLEGAL ALIEN PARASITES on the border illegally in the USA while American citizens babies go without.

    I’m pro choice, but the concept of “aborting” a baby outside the womb after being born is murder. When you condemn this as murder and those supporting it as murderers THEN maybe we can talk. Otherwise I can care less what you hypocritical assholes think about anything at all.

  22. These shootings just show that we need someone with the courage like Beto to lead our country. Someone not afraid to say HELL YES WE’RE GOING TO GO DOOR TO DOOR AND TAKE YOUR AR-15 AND AK-47 ASSAULT WEAPONS.

    • Keep it up. One day you may see horrors beyond your imagination IF you live long enough during a hot civil war. And that’s a VERY big “if”.

      It’s the same type of lunatic like YOU, LIKE BETO, LIKE THESE SHOOTERS, that kill children, the elderly, the helpless and weak that cannot protect themselves, that support those that work to make the next tragedy like this happen to further their warped and evil agenda. It’s also the same turds like all the aforementioned that learn the hard way just exactly how they also are totally expendable.

    • david hoggwash breath…That’s right nitwit. Following the murders of school children what we need to run the show is a crazed lily white democRat pos who at 15 wrote a fantasy about running over children with a motor vehicle. BTW…I hope your neighbors are heavily armed and have restraining orders against you.

    • Hell yes, we need to take all the computers because people who were criminally insane at the time of their crimes committed horrible crimes and bragged about it on social media and spewed hate speech on social media. Hell yes we need to punish everyone who uses a computer or cell phone and remove their first amendment right because of this.

      Yeah, that’s the logic to use there David Hogg. The logic of control tyranny, the logic of emotional temper tantrum, the logic of idiots that removing or infringing inherent rights means solving a problem.

      You ever wonder why the other so called ‘civilized’ countries don’t seem to have this problem? Its not because that banned or restricted guns. Its because they ignore that even without guns they have horrible crime rates they don’t categorize the same as we do and thus hide the real problem in stats and reporting without address the problem with is crime. They haven’t solved any issues with keeping horrible crimes from happening, they have just invoked their brand of tyranny and whitewashed it by saying “oh look, we don’t have gun crime like that.” when in reality they have the same violence spread across their countries in different forms, for example, the UK is the knife crime and rape capital of Europe.

      Seriously, can you be any more stupid?

    • ” … we need someone with the courage … Someone not afraid to say HELL YES WE’RE GOING TO GO DOOR TO DOOR AND TAKE YOUR AR-15 AND AK-47 ASSAULT WEAPONS.”

      Are you such a brave soul, to do what you think should be done?

      Or are you just a coward?

    • “WE’RE GOING TO GO DOOR TO DOOR ND TAKE YOUR AR-15 AND AK-47 ASSAULT WEAPONS.”

      Who is this “we”, Kemosabe??? Are YOU going to do it??? Lemme know how that works out for ya, champ. And to unironically refer to Beta “Fake Mexican” O’Rourke as a “leader” requires a degree of delusion seldom seen outside of insane asylums. O’Rourke couldn’t get elected dog-catcher, and he’s already blown his chance to keep the race with Abbott even close, BEFORE he put on his idiot s***show at the press conference. He’s going to lose ONE MORE stupid “no chance in hell” election. Perhaps the stupid Leftist/fascists who funded this moronic loser the last two times are becoming aware that he’s a useless money pit – or maybe not, and they’ll KEEP pissing away money on an inept, feckless, brainless loser. Fun for me, either way.

    • Hey ‘Hooded Hogg’

      In case you didn’t notice, even the local people in Texas are calling Robert Francis a huge POS.
      🤣

      You may was to pull your head out your azz to check which way the wind is blowing.

      Enjoy the midterms in Nov. 👍😉

    • Really? Bringing up the name of POS Beto means you are just trolling. No go after the real problem, gangs, you racist.

  23. Chris Henley, Dacian, Dacian’s pro-2A troll, Albert Hall, and Debbie W are all the same person.

    • Listen up you libelous pos…I have been on this forum for a very long time. I have never, ever used any other name, moniker, etc. The owners of this site could, should they want, quite easily verify that. As for you…you are a gutless wonder who obviously does appear under numerous names and The Truth about Sock Puppet Accounts is just one of them…Now gfy.

  24. Adding basic security measures to schools that don’t already have them in place would be helpful. Restricting or banning whatever firearms would do nothing to prevent the next nutcase or damaged soul from committing another such atrocity. If 1 type of firearm is not readily available, another will work just as well. If firearms in general are not available, improvised explosives, incendiary devices, or even an automobile will be used. Knives, axes, swords, crossbows, or blunt objects have killed a lot of people before firearms came into common usage. A whole lot of people died from black powder cap and ball revolvers and early cartridge firearms. An old 44-40, or 45LC lever action carbine is just as dangerous at short range as the latest fancy AR or AK type rifle.
    And look at how well other prohibitions have worked out. If we can’t stop some peasant farmer from carrying a bale of pot, or a bag of pills or a couple kilo’s of cocaine from crossing the border, do you really think we would somehow stop the same mule from carrying a couple rifles and a knapsack of ammo?
    No, the answer is not more laws. But dealing with the person who is either needing some sort of mental health help. Teaching our children to respect not only themselves, but others as well. And teaching a respect for life in general. For all too long we have demanded government protect us, provide for us and save us from ourselves. Yes, there are times when we need government intervention. But for too long we have not demanded excellence from our educators, nor expected it from ourselves and our children. And we are paying the price with a lack of morality, and honorable behavior. We have replaced family and personal responsibility with government programs and Marxist/Progressive indoctrination. We have replaced simple acts of charity and kindness with welfare and divisiveness.

  25. I’m now seeing from multiple sources that the gunman, having barricaded himself inside a classroom, was in the building for nearly an hour before police breached the door and shot him dead. Police were outside the school, carrying long guns, forcibly preventing parents from charging into the school themselves. Looks like another repeat of Parkland, the Pulse club massacre, and Columbine.

  26. quote———————–Let’s take advantage of a great resource: our retired military and law enforcement professionals. They protected our nation and our communities. They can easily protect our school children.———–quote

    The statement is ridiculous on several points.

    Old retired farts are not capable of combat because we are in a war with young virile, agile, aggressive maniacs who will strike without warning. The attacker has all the advantages as he can chose the time and place and children are going to die, its just a question of how many die before the maniac in a modern kamikaze style attack is killed by law enforcement. As a matter of fact this latest tragedy showed that local law enforcement held back for over 30 minutes and waited for the trained swat team to arrive and by then the children were all dead.

    I might add it also takes training with children including and education in child psychology to deal with children. The old fashioned Far Right Brutality with children from another age is long gone and obsolete in todays world of children who largely come from broken homes. This was not true of generations past where the adult, child relationship was one of respect because they came from a two parent home and the mother was home all day to raise the children. To think that today with mothers working and fathers working that this has not changed the child/parent relationship is ludicrous and its exacerbated with one parent homes and low income families.

    If one thinks that an 18 year old kid is capable of responsible behavior with a deadly weapon in their hands, especially todays children, with all of their psychological problems one has lost touch with the real world of the 21st Century in Capitalvania. We are living in an era never seen or experienced before in human societal evolution.

    One must remember also that Psychological studies done well over 1/2 a century ago with population growth, especially over population growth in relation to job opportunities and living space proved that mental illness increases well out of proportion to the actual population increase creating an new horde of mentally ill people. In the last 1/2 century or so the U.S. population added over another 100 million people to the population of the U.S. Its not any wonder with the high divorce rate and stagnation of wages we have had an explosion of violence in our society and its not going to get any better in the near future.

    More gun control is inevitable as has been done in all civilized societies around the world and to delay that control will only result in the body count of children growing higher not by the year but by the day. The only question remains is how draconian will it be. It all depends on how many children’s lives you want to save. So far in Capitalvania they all have been declared expendable.

  27. The article argues that funding the schools with armed resource officers will solve the active shooter problem.

    In Florida, the Marjory Stoneman Douglas HS shooting, the resource officer hid under a stair rather than interdict the shooter. Early reports at Uvalde state that there was a resource officer on site and that police waited an hour to breech the building. (This is a breakdown in protocol as against an active shooter LE should take immediate action as opposed to hostage situations which require LE secure positions and hold)

  28. “A man’s natural rights are his own, against the whole world; and any infringement of them is equally a crime; whether committed by one man, or by millions; whether committed by one man, calling himself a robber, or by millions calling themselves a government.”

    “To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the law abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless.”

    ~ Lysander Spooner

    United We Stand
    Divided We Fall

  29. Dumb asses have weapons stolen from cars nightly in the Atlanta area where I live and you can get a gun on the street corner in many parts of town. No I D required, just cash!

  30. Facebook will ban me if I mention Trump, but did nothing to alert authorities of his rant of wanting to kill his grandmother! And then saying he did kill her and was going to target an elementary school!!! There could not have been that many schools in that smaller town!!! Time was on their side like 30 minutes to alert authorities!!!

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