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Remington Staying In New York. Boycott to Follow?

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“Remington Arms will be staying in the Mohawk Valley for the foreseeable future,” wham1180.com reports. “Two days after sources say Remington Officials met with three State Senators and three Assembly, U.S. Congressman Richard Hanna announced that the Pentagon would be awarding Remington an $80 million contract. In the meeting, sources say, Remington told the State lawmakers that they were moving forward with a $20 million upgrade to their plant that employs 1,200 people. Hanna said that the contract calls for Remington to make more than 5,000 sniper rifles and millions of rounds over the next 10 years for the U.S. Special Operations Command.” Spock! Analysis! Well Captain . . .

During the Sandy Hook spree killing, Adam Lanza used a Bushmaster AR-15. Bushmaster is part of the Freedom Group, a farrago of gun and ammo-related companies assembled by Cerberus Capital Management. Which also includes Remington.

After Newtown, the California State Teachers’ Retirement System informed Cerberus that it was “reviewing” its $751.4m portfolio with the private investment firm— unless the fund dumped the Freedom Group. So Cerberus put the Freedom Group, including Remington, up for sale. No word yet on who or when but . . .

Cerberus is thinking short-term; it’s pump and dump time. (The original strategy that didn’t pan out.) Spending millions moving Remington out of New York is so not part of the plan. Sucking on the taxpayer tit is. In fact, one wonders what New York offered Remington in terms of incentives and tax abatements to keep the manufacturer in-state — despite the fact that the parent company makes evil assault rifles that can no longer be sold in New York.

Yes, there is that. Chances are firearms consumers, fed-up with the Empire State’s hugely unconstitutional SAFE Act, will now boycot Remington products, if they haven’t done so already. Not that it matters to Remington much. The clock is ticking for the great off-loading, they’ve got an $80m contract in the bank, their existing inventory has been completely depleted and Cerberus’s other investments are doing well. Life is good. But this will catch up with them eventually.

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. We’d been talking about piston rifles on previous stages, and it sounded like he was in the market for one, but hadn’t made a decision as to which one to get yet. After he had run the stage with my SCAR, it sounded like his mind had been made up.

    Don’t know if you were being intentional about it, Nick, or if it just came natural – or both. But, taking advantage of this situation on-the-fly to the benefit of FNH tells me their faith (and money) has been well placed in sponsoring you. Well done, sir.

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  2. I kinda think remmy quality has slipped anyway….this will help me even more to not buy their crappy products. FOAD remmy…..winchester here i come!

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  3. Shame Remington has to be under Cerebus. Love the 870 more than any other gun. I hope they get sold and move to a better place.

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  4. Can gun owners please get off their high horses and stop acting like companies have to screw over employees AND their finances just to move because they say so?

    Get over yourselves, seriously.

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      • Like you said? You’re making no sense, what I said has nothing to do with Cuomo whatsoever.

        Stop expecting companies to uproot because you think they should. It costs money and it’ll put people out of work, you want to foot the bill?

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        • I don’t understand what you’re getting at. Yes, companies shouldn’t have to move because of stupid laws, but that’s not reality. The laws have been passed, and we have to work at getting rid of them, but they’re there right now.

          So…what’s your point?

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        • That’s absurd, a company having to move an entire manufacturing operation just ain’t happening.

          Furthermore, if you want people to just keep leaving anti-gun states, the anti-gun sentiment will be at your door next. Good luck with that.

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    • Gee Nate! As gun owners we can’t do any of that. All we can do is show our displeasure by not buying their products. It just seems strange to me to want to stay in a place that has outlawed a lot of your product and is trying for more. Take that 80 mil contract and move to a more open minded state, and take the employees with you. Other companies are leaving Conneticut and some have already left Colorado. Pretty soon, the “Blue States” won’t have firearm manufacturers to kick around anymore.

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  5. NY resident here. I feel for the employees. Choose between a principled stand or the $ you need to care for your family. The gov’t knows this all too well…your rights or your wallet.

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    • Well if you’re a working in NY you can see that eventually, the government wants to put you out of a job. The question is going to be; will it be now because of your company moving, or later when the feds shut the plant down.

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  6. I’ve already boycotted Remington, but that’s only because they no longer make anything that a competitor doesn’t make better.

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  7. My video response:

    It’s great to hear the liberal – progressive talk about how awesome gun control is. Look at world history: disarming the good guys only works out well for the bad guys. If I’m at a mass stabbing or shooting, I’ll shoot the psychopath if I get the chance. Obama and Biden will tell you to sit tight and wait for the police. That advice sure didn’t work in Sandy Hook or Aurora.

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  8. Remington understands — they can’t fight the feds and at the same time get government contracts. Remmy is now owned lock, stock and barrel by the G. Do you really want to contribute to that?

    If you want a 700 or an 870, buy it used. There are plenty around. Your money then goes to the seller, not to Sellout Cerberus Capital.

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    • Ralph, I’m just a young’un and all I know about the fight in the 1990s is stories I’ve heard. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t a similar thing happen to Colt after they signed up with Clinton? Gun owners flooded the market with used guns and obliterated their profits, forcing Colt to become an exclusive mil/gov/LE manufacturer?

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  9. Remington’s bin a shit company since they went to corperate from family owned! The Walker trigger in the older 700 bolt rifles did it for me. They discovered they had a trigger issue with the 700 bolt rifles. They did the numbers, and found out it would be cheaper to pay a few wrongful death suits then issue a recall! SCREW REMINGTON!!!! They made this statement after a women shot her son accidently while unloading her rifle with the safty on. The young boy was on the other side of her travel trailer when the rifle went off! Remington said this”this could have bin prevented if she would have had the rifle pointed in a safe direction” Yeah right, which direction is SAFE REMINGTON when you don’t know when your freaking rifle is going to go off?????? In the military we called it a REMINGTON MOMENT because it happened so much, id just touch the bolt handle, safty on mind you and kaboom, weapon would fire. Finger not even in the trigger guard. In fact many police forces stopped using the 700’s due to this issue! I will never buy one thing from these non gun owning assclowns!!

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    • “…after a women shot her son accidently while unloading her rifle with the safty on. The young boy was on the other side of her travel trailer when the rifle went off!”

      You know the rules. Point, destroy, etc.

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      • I watched the documentary show. The kid was supposed to be behind her but he slipped around the back of the horse trailer. A big one too. She was pointing the gun in the safest direction…. My 700 went off by itself once, same thing – I was unloading it before getting down from my tree stand, started moving the safety and off it went. I had the muzzle pointing up thank God. Scared the crap out of me! I got rid of it.

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    • remington is right in that regard.

      I dont give a F^CK if its the finest mechanical contraption known to man; one should never rely on a safety 100%. She did. Something about not pointing the gun at something you dont intend to destroy…

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    • I think the trigger was fixxed in 08′. In any case, I got a 700 varmint with the 26″ bull barrel for $349 on the last Black Friday, just before the poop hit the fan in Newtown. It was a screaming deal, but would I do it again knowing what I know now? I would like them to move as well, but they did not sin like Cheaper Than Dirt or Dicks did, so I would still buy the gun.

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  10. I can see where Americans trust and agree with Joe. They have purchased 32 guns every minute, of every hour, of every day, of every week, of every month, of every year, since Joe and what’s his name got selected.

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  11. Try and imagine the expense and logistics of moving a factory that employs 1200 people to another state. For starters, where are you going to find a suitable building? Where are you going to find 1200 trained workers ready to hit the ground running? What are you going to do for money while the old factory is dismantled and the new one is set up? If you think about it for 30 seconds you’ll realize that in the real world, few could afford it. Many companies couldn’t survive it.

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    • All the former NASA certified workers and empty Air/space industry sites between Houston and Cape Kennedy would be the first place I would look.
      1200 employees? Over 50,000 would apply

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  12. You can build cheap autopilots out of stuff from radioshack. Heck I once saw a post on a home made electronics website where a guy built a simple, low-res FLIR camera out of an infrared thermometer using an off the shelf micro-controller. I wonder what it would take to build a small even cheaper drone to fly into the rotors of these things.

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  13. FLAME DELETED

    There would not be Ilion NY without Remington. A firearms manufacturer is more than it’s products, it is it’s employees and the communities they’re a part of.

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  14. Hey, look at the bright side. PETA is providing invaluable training at no cost. Once guys get proficient at shooting down PETA drones, they should be able to port those skills over to shooting down government drones if/when hostilities commence!

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  15. As far as expenses, companies move all the time for varying reasons. One of the favored places to move is either overseas, or to Texas. If some of these states would pull the heads out of wherever and stop treating businesses like dirt, they would probabaly stop leaving. Also, people need to pull their heads out and pay damn attention to who you’re voting for, so you don’t put morons into the offices of your state. In some ways, you’ve made your bed.

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  16. My initial reaction to this was to avoid Remington products, but then I got to thinking, “why do states like New York abuse their citizens’ second amendment rights when other states don’t?” I live in a state where the Democrats actually passed the right to carry law a few years ago (didn’t help them in the elections). The answer, I think, is that too few people in New York own firearms and it’s easy to look the other way when other people are getting their civil rights trampled. I don’t think shutting down the Remington factory would help increase the firearms ownership rate in NY.

    Then I looked up Remington Arms on Wikipedia and found out that their corporate headquarters is actually in North Carolina and they have another newer state of the art firearms factory in Kentucky and their ammunition facility was moved from Connecticut to Arkansas back in the 80s. So if you want to boycott New York you don’t need to boycott Remington ammunition.

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  17. If Remington stays and quietly fights, I’m okay with that. As Ralph
    pointed out that could hardly keep their government contract
    while speaking loudly. On the other hand, if they go into compliance
    mode like S&W did in the 90s (and arguably now), then by all
    means boycott. But something tells me the CEOs are still thinking
    they can shut up and skate through and that this will eventually blow
    over.

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  18. You can’t expect politics to come first for everyone. Short term losses for Remington on this issue if they moved would decimate 1200 people and their families. That’s not short term. Same way expecting people to pack up and move out of California due to oppression is impractical at best. Cost and the webs of social connection that you can’t simply itemize as losses comes into play.

    I applaud the companies that moved and won’t suffer quality losses. The statement is both bold and heartening. I readily admit that Remington appears to have destroyed the quality associated with Marlin and I have to find a lever gun worth keeping in a time when QC is secondary but neither of these justifies demanding bad business in ways that are downright petulant. If a company can afford to move and wants to it is different than the consumer base clamoring for it. At this point us demanding big physical movesas consumers aren’t better than the anti-gun crowd making irrational demands.

    Anti gun people have the right to not own guns, them clamoring for us to ditch ours is the problem. Companies have the right to move, us demanding it is not a good premise. Remington will pay for it, as I’ve never liked the products and this doesn’t add any love to the matter. I’m sure others feel similarly but I don’t think hating them for staying accomplishes much. Vote with your wallet. If that doesn’t do it then little else will.

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    • The jobs that people will lose because they don’t make the move are the jobs that others will gain. When you look at the big picture, you cannot worry about individual employee’s job. Do the folks in gun-friendly states deserve the jobs less?

      The companines that are moving are doing so because they believe it will increase business over the long term. And, by increasing businesses, the move could actually create jobs within the company, not to mention those that would be further employed to support the move.

      I never expected that Remington would move. (I thought MAYBE Mossberg, but it doesn’t seem like anybody is knocking on their door asking them to commit to one position or another.) I also did not expect that Colt or Baretta would move … And they haven’t. Despite their threats to do so, they’ve not announce plans to move any of their production out of “occupied” states. Oh, Colt. Yeah, they have one factory moving to Texas, but from Oregon.

      But, I digress … Other than the efficacy of moving to a more gun-friendly state, I agree with that you’re saying. It isn’t practical to cut and run in every case. And the best practice is to “vote with your wallet” if a company offends you.

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      • Orygun is run by progressives, last week the Gov. declared that illeagles now get in state tuition, he called it a Dream Come True as in the Dream Act

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  19. Actually since PETA has publicly stated that it intends to “Stalk Hunters” and since it is a Felony to do so and since PETA has stated that it is persueing the means to do so They are liable to multible Felony charges and hopefully forfiture of funds under RICO

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  20. Interesting enough, I live in Iowa and decided to get my CCW but being a cheap ass I didn’t want to shell out $50 for a training program in addition to the $50 for the 5 year license. So I read in the Des Moines Register (liberal rag) how awful it is that the concealed carry law is rather vague in it’s requirement for training and thus people were taking the free firearms safety course from the Maryland State Police Association and getting their CCWs. Apparently someone got denied when he took that course and the denial was overturned by the Iowa courts. It took about a half an hour. (Thanks DM Register for the tip.) So I guess there is at least one thing gun friendly in Maryland.

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  21. He will fold like a cheap hooker…no wait, hookers are Sen Menendez’s thing. But seriously, Christie will do it for the Boss. Bruce or Barack, you pick em.

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  22. I will also take up arms against any nazi like tactics I see. I’m also a Marine and need to say “wake up” now not in five years. Our Gov. Needs to get a clue or move to the people’s republic of California.

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  23. Well… Aslong as its a deal with Special Operations Command.. Operators are too smart to do President Berry’s bidding!.. But as long as its not a deal for Berry’s goons, the DHS.

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    • Wait, what? You do realize that Obama ordered the operation that finalized bin Laden, right? And that it was the SpecOps community that carried out his orders?

      Never mind. Don’t let me intrude on your feverish fantasy of the SpecOps shooters rising up against a legitimately elected US President.

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  24. We already have too many jurisdictions where the police are apparently free to summarily execute anyone they see in posession of a firearm, with no warning, no notice, and no consequences, regardless of the US Constitution’s provision that the “…right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

    I can think of no greater infringement that a government official able to murder an individual at will for exercising that Right. Can you?

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  25. guys:

    The wife’s statements were good reporting technique, dont blame the officers for documenting same. The wife shouldnt have said anything.

    I see the report is mute on the subject of prior duii, which could have been relevant to the report, though is easily proved or disproved.

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  26. Most of those just sound like bureaucratic nonsense, I can’t wait until Massachusetts finally goes completely insane and makes CT and NY look like pansies. Sigh…I need to move.

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  27. Divide and conquer explains what happened in Australia. The rhetoric was they were taking away the military style self-loading rifles and this wouldn’t restrict any other firearm owners. Various groups within the shooting organizations saw this as a way of removing an apparent public relations issue. Those who participated in competitions using those types of rifles saw it as a sell-out in the name of political expediency. And as for hunting, a SKK (SKS that could use AK-47 magazines) was a good combination when you had a mob of feral pigs in front of you. But in the sweep to ban self-loading rifles (and self-loading and pump-action shotguns), many sporting rifles were also collected and destroyed.

    But after the new laws were applied, then came a campaign to ban lever-action rifles from the anti-gun campaigners as they thought they could be fired very rapidly (probably from watching too many westerns). Ironically, a bolt-action rifle can be cycled and fired faster. Then came a campaign to ban straight-pull bolt-actions because they could be fired rapidly. But because of the design of the bolt and the location of the handle, they were significantly slower than a conventional turn-pull bolt-action. Then came the predicable effort to ban “sniper rifles”. Again knocked down as too impractical. And finally, and only recently, a call to ban any repeating action rifle (bolt, lever, pump) to, … wait for it …, prevent suicides(!).

    Even today the service shooters are facing negative opinions and actions from the “knob-twirlers” (full-bore target shooters), the bench-resters, and the plinkers, who all think if the service shooters are sacrificed their little activity will be left alone. They need to wake up that my Lee-Enfield, Mosin-Nagant, Springfield, Enfield, Mauser, Ross, Schmidt-Reubin, etc is no different to their Remchesterby. Once one group has been eliminated, the anti-gun groups will turn their attention to others.

    Down-under, we are constantly on the back foot. The only good news of late has been news that firearm ownership is back to pre-Port Arthur levels with more people taking up the sport. Of course, this has upset the anti-gun groups and the Greens because people are obeying the law but not doing what they want them to do.

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  28. A boycott will be necessary. I will never buy Remington products until they move. You don’t turn your back on your customers like this and expect to maintain their loyalty and respect.

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  29. Not sure whose heard, but the entire Freedom Group (Remington, Bushmaster, DPMS, etc) just raised their prices on everything. Not point of sale prices or MSRP, but the prices they charge the distributors. Not only that, but any orders made before the price increase WILL NOT be honored.

    So, if you’re a gun store and have already paid for merchandise that hasn’t arrived yet, too bad, pay up. For this reason, I’ll be boycotting the entire Freedom Group.

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  30. Push back hard.

    No more F or E in the BATFE,
    No more NFA restrictions on Short Barreled Anything.
    No more NFA restrictions or background checks for suppressors or AOWs.
    No more 922r restrictions.
    No magazine or ammo restrictions.
    Absolute National Concealed Carry Reciprocity
    Absolutely no registration of firearms. All data, paper, electronic and otherwise must be destroyed within 5 minutes after a result is returned.
    No background check fees, taxes, charges.
    No limits to purchasing body armor.
    Unrestricted purchase of any firearm, anywhere in the US.
    Challenges to ones mental health must be decided in a court of law and during the trial the defendant is free to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights as they were prior to accusations.
    It is punishable by $10 000 000 and mandatory 15 years in prison to create, vote on or pass any compulsory action that infringes on the 2nd amendment.
    And add a 28th Amendment that clears up any imagined ambiguity regarding the second amendment. I think there was something originally when the Constitution was being put together.

    Have I missed anything?

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  31. I get so tired of reading about “compromises” with the gun grabbers. Giving up rights is not a compromise. #@$%@#$^%@@#$%

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  32. To play devil’s advocate here, there is a bit of truth in this from the original intent standpoint. The FEDERAL government (read: now national) was simply a FEDERATION of the states. The “Bill of Rights” (which some viewed as superfluous at the time) was meant to limit the powers of the FEDERAL government, not the states. In fact, early Supreme Court cases established this to be the case. The states were free to do that which they wished. It was the responsibility of the people of those states to ensure that their state governments didn’t encroach upon their rights, not the federal government to play nanny. Just because the federal government couldn’t do it didn’t mean the states couldn’t.

    Fast forward 100 years and the NATIONAL government started slowly taking hold. Incorporation is a double-edged sword when it comes to this new form of government, especially with the turn toward democracy rather than a republic. The simple fact that firearms laws are up for debate in the legislative branch means it’s no longer protected as it was intended.

    If you want to stop the gun debate on the national level, you need to start at your local level. We need to get back to the separation of powers between state and federal entities. It’s the only way to get things back to where they need to be without hitting the reset button…

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  33. Am I the only one here with any reason? This new bill for background checks is perfectly fine! It excludes all sales between private individuals and has a provision that forbids a registry. Come on people!

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  34. I guess an ankle bracelet for rapeists & long prison terms for one too many bullets in a mag just doesn’t do it for the NRA. The fight is on, Randy

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  35. This guy conveniently forgets to mention that the dictatorial regime that kicked him out of the country replaced another dictatorial regime that was just as oppressive.

    And, of course, the whole notion that “it was done was to take away the guns from the people” is just plain idiotic. Castro was not about to give his subjects unlimited access to firearms lest they do to him what he did to Batista, but it was a tool used to maintain power, not a goal in and of itself.

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  36. Heh, I doubt you can say, but I’d love to know if you’ve gotten any grief for your review of the SCAR back in the day. The world of corporate sponsorship!

    Ah screw it, have fun, learn lots, report all!

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  37. I think Matt in FL summed up my argument nicely. There is a big difference between something that can be corroborated with evidence (bills, past statements, logic) and something that is completely outlandish. The other day someone commented that the cops in an Obama photo op probably had no rounds in their guns “in case one of them upheld the Constitution”, the implication being fairly obvious. We don’t need any of that trash. It’s absolute nonsense.

    Interestingly, most tin foil stuff can be solved with Occam’s Razor. For instance — the idea of Obama retaining power after his term is up. Is it more logical and feasible that he would try to effect as much change as possible while in office and appoint as many people to positions of power so that his legacy can continue once his term is up, or that he would, in a modern democracy with a free press (yes I know MSM sucks but we aren’t North Korea), strong military and 300 million armed citizens take no heed to that and bunker himself in the White House?

    Making outlandish statements feels good because it’s radical, but it is a big distraction. Make no mistake: your rights are under attack. But I am more worried about incremental chipping away than a sudden police-state style usurpation. I’m not saying it will happen, but I’m also not saying that it can’t. It certainly can. But I believe our energies are best spent not giving up an inch on verifiable threats, and doing away with behavior that can only be thrown back against us.

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  38. The man (I use the term loosely) is an irresponsible, conceited smart mouth. The best thing he can do for the 2A cause is hike into the Tennessee mountains and stay there.

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  39. While this guy is an idiot and I hate to see that he’s a fellow Tennesseean, Tennessee has Handgun Carry Permits…they allow either concealed or open carry….just sayin’

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    • The question is less will you buy them but have you bought them and are you going to offload them? I mean it would be a shame to ditch most of your arsenal and the muscle memory associated with it to make a political statement. I mean to each their own and I don’t own any Remington but…it seems a bit blind or foolhardy to jump too hard against good hardware, especially if it’s what you own and are familiar with. No handgun manufacturer jumps to mind as standing with us and that alone is enough for me to think abandoning companies flat out may not be wise.

      I can understand making a point to vote with your wallet but don’t compromise defense for politics if you’re running an ever shorter list of what actually is worth defending your home and life with because many upper class manufacturers have too much government traffic to abandon the sales. If going with smaller, lesser known and less tried and true firearms manufactuers is an acceptable risk that’s one thing but usually I find that not to be the case. Something to think about.

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        • Everyone isn’t as adept. I could carry and learn anything but some folks aren’t as apt or have the budget and time to relearn things in old age versus youth. I never said don’t sell anything, I said it’s something to think about. Whether you reject that idea or not is subjective and up to you on a case by case basis.

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  40. This thread is choked full of pack mentality and testosterone. Yet, I bet none of you would cross him face to face. The man is passionate, and has made mistakes, but he has also educated and help more people than all of you combined!!!

    Enough said.

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    • Quit defending the guy, he deserves every bit of criticism he receives. He is a troll, he says and does things to get people riled up intentionally.

      The sad part is, you are probably right, he is most likely good at what he does in training, unfortunately, it’s hard to take the guy seriously, so I would NEVER attend his training, especially when so many others out there aren’t assholes for simply being asked a question.

      He is his own biggest fan, anytime that is the case, there is something not right.

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  41. Did Remington go through the bidding process for the DOD contract or was it pay off? Just curious.

    Regardless, I guess I will not be buying any Remington products.

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  42. Fat Yeager was funny and his vids were informative and entertaining. ‘roid rage Yeager…well, that’s another ball of wax. Obviously dude’s life came off the rails somewhere and he really needs to get some help.

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  43. Gun control in Kuwait hurts my head. I started thinking about it after passing a gun store in Fahaheel.

    Essentially it’s no guns for anybody. I presume, this being Kuwait, that doesn’t really apply to those consanguineous with the King.

    You’d think that after Iraq they’d take a different approach? I mean, granted, they’re never going to allow the “guest workers” to be armed, but still.

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  44. I’m gonna go with the classic double-barrel shotgun. It’s just like America.
    Big, loud, difficult to control, and when it’s pointed at you you shut up really damn quick if you know what’s good for you.

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  45. Are we supposed to be surprised by this? They are going to get their ban one way or another. It’s up to us to comply or not

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  46. FOR YOUR INFORMATION ALEX JONES IS NOT CRAZY PARANOID
    WHAT HE SAYS IS 100% TRUTH. HOW DO I KNOW THIS? BECAUSE I HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME INFORMATION HE GETS, FROM THE SAME PEOPLE HE GETS IT FROM….YOU PEOPLE BETTER START TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY… I TAKE OFFENCE TO THE COMMENT…

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  47. I purchased one of the first LE901 available last year mainly because i’m left handed and fall for anything that’s ambidextrous out of the box. However I’m beginning to think I’ve fallen victim to smoke and mirrors….cant find the 5.56 lower adapter. While gun writers all over the internet are hailing this cool concept…cant find the 5.56 lower adapter. I know it must exist because the gun writers seem to have access to it during the reviews…just not the guys buying the guns. In fact it is not mentioned anywhere on the colt website, phamplets, or owners manual. Colt refers to the weapon as modular and therein the bait is set and gun writers start to drool and suckers like me are hooked. Shame on colt and irresponsibly and poolry informed gun writers and reviewers!!

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  48. If moving to Maine (or NH / Vermont) would make those states more pro-2A, then I am all for it. But, if they wait to long and the states go blue, then move sown south or out west (no colorado) and make a stand…

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  49. I have been doing this since the first day of school with my daughter. EVERY SCHOOL-DAY! No advanced notice, no phone calls to the police… Why would I or anyone? I have a legitimate reason to be there and the legal RIGHT to carry.

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  50. I can’t say much for Remington staying in New York, but they are building a 2,000 job $110 million plant in Huntsville, AL that is already advertising for workers.

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  51. Their is a reason why the Gun companies supported no importation of firearms back in the 90;s and its called shoddy workmanship on the part of American firearms companies! why do you suppose they snapped up all the smaller companies who had better product than Remington. Bushmaster was an inferior product to DPMS that’s why they were bought! workmanship just enough to sell!

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