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Quote of the Day: That’s Just Our Policy Edition

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“If the soldiers at Fort Hood had been armed, it has been claimed by some, then first responders to the shooting would have been confused about who was the killer—with everyone in the same uniform and many with guns present. I don’t think there would have been much confusion: The bad guy would have been the one bleeding on the ground.” – Arthur Z. Berg in How to Stop a Would-Be Killer at a Military Base [at wsj.com]

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  1. The whole “friendly-fire” concern is always from someone who has no idea what it is like to train for combat. It is intellectually dishonest and is a knee-jerk poorly thought response that attempts to support their ongoing distaste of firearms or the necessity to use force at all.

    Most people who think this way believe violence is something to be avoided at all costs, even if it means doing nothing for those that may be dying around you.

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  2. Stop the HYPOCRISY. We send soldiers to war willing to do what most would not for those who could not or would not. They are the first to suffer for US. The politicians (especially the one in the photo) dishonor their sacrifice at any given moment by cutting their wages and benefits yet deem themselves worthy of a raise. WE willingly give them arms to defend the political agendas throughout the world. Yet the politicians and the high ranking officers won’t trust them to defend US or themselves at home. I am a veteran as is my brother and many of my friends and WE hope that peace finds our brethren. May their suffering be eased as well as it may be.

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  3. This goes to show what people have to go through when identifying targets.

    Life isn’t a video game where you have blue arrows over the good guys and red arrows over the bad guys. You people in the comments have to realize this. This was a horrible misunderstanding, and I’m sure that the police department is going to get sued over it.

    There is something we call “Good call, bad shoot.” Any sane person would think that a person running after a bleeding person in an event like this is an assailant.

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    • Any sane person would think that a person running after a bleeding person in an event like this is an assailant.

      The little flaw in your reasoning is that they apparently shot the person who was bleeding, too, it’s just that he didn’t die.

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  4. Gotta hand it to you, Mr. Farago, you have single-handedly quadrupled the number of people who even know who “Cenk Uygur” is.I would have never even heard of him were it not for your post.

    if an anti-gun nut prattles about nonsense in a hermetically sealed room, does it make a sound?

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  5. The Zero,s wont’ allow weapons on base as they would become the Targets because of all the Chicken shit! most of the Leadership is along for the Gravy train and could care less along as they get Paid!
    Instead they want combat soldiers too run away and hide, I can see it now, hurry up and hide the enemy is coming!
    Having this President Dishonor these troops by showing up is tasteless and disgraceful! especially because of Anti-American sentiments and Actions he is undertaking

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  6. Let’s just say that the detractors are right, the police show up, confuse you for the BG, and you get SWATed.

    My response, so the f*ck what?

    I would rather die defending myself, my loved ones, or my friends, even if accidentally killed by police, than lay there and wait to be put down by some lunatic like a worthless dog.

    It’s not just about self defense, it’s about self respect and self dignity, it’s about saying, “Not me, not today, not like this…”

    We all live and we all die, live the best life you can and die the best death you can, that’s all any of us can do.

    By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.

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  7. Gotta hand it to you Me. Farago, you have probably quadrupled the number of people who even know who “Cenk Uygur” is. I had never even heard about him before your post.

    Here is another thought experiment: if an anti-gun nut prattles about nonsense in a hermetically sealed room, does it make a sound?

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  8. Respect needs to be EARNED. Hitler was ELECTED chancellor of Germany if I remember my history. Like the RESPECT given Bush 2? Goodwins law( beat ya’ to it).

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  9. “The bad guy would have been the one bleeding on the ground.”
    Or, if the soldiers had been armed, the bad guy wouldn’t have planned a mass shooting and there would be no need to figure out who was who.

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  10. I have a Henry .22, which I love. It’s a great plinker.

    My wishlist includes both a lever in .357 to match my SAA .375s, as well as something in a more traditional rifle caliber. But so many guns, so little time… and money.

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    • Count me in for the Henry love-fest. They make wonderful guns. I just wish they’d make some with a loading gate, instead of having to remove the mag tube follower to reload.

      I love plinking with it loaded with Aguila Super Colibri ammo (when I can find some). It’s so quiet, the hammer fall is louder than the shot. No ear pro needed, and no tax stamp either. Of course, that makes it about as deadly as a Red Ryder carbine action model with a compass in the stock and this thing which tells time, but the tin cans don’t seem to mind.

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  11. I grew up looking at my grandpa’s lever gun in 303 savage hanging on the wall. He unfortunately sold it so I never got to shoot it. Last month I saw my great grandfather’s lever gun for the first time. My grandpa still has it and showed me his entire gun collection. He’s never done that before so I was excited. I think the lever gun was in .25-30? He also had some other neat guns like an 03A3.

    My short list is a Henry .22 and a .357 so I can pair it with my Ruger GP100. I saw a beautiful Henry in .44 mag two months ago that I wish I could have picked up.

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  12. Here are some interesting observations about the BLM from back in the 1990s. The source is given following these excerpts:

    (. . . ) “During those turbulent years of the 1990s, the late-great Congresswoman, Helen Chenoweth, in an interview with Michael Reagan, spoke these words:

    ‘BLM is taking onto themselves law enforcement that I normally saved for the State, law enforcement over motor vehicles. They’ve written into the regulation without authority from Congress, the ability to stop vehicles or to search people, to search a place or a vehicle without warrant or process; to be able to seize without warrant or process any piece of evidence and to test people for potential DUI (driving under the influence). They have redefined a parachute into a mechanized piece of equipment, so if you parachute into any of their areas you can be fined $20,000 or more.

    ‘It is amazing. Our founders, when establishing our system of government wanted to make sure that law enforcement was closest to the people. You and I have talked before about how important it is to make sure that you elect the very best local county sheriff because he should be regarded as the highest law enforcement officer in the area because he is accountable to the voters. They really worried about a national, a federal, law enforcement. To federalize our law enforcement is to create a situation that the pilgrims were trying to escape.

    ‘We are moving quickly to that. The Bureau of land Management is taking onto themselves law enforcement authority that Congress never gave them. In the Federal Land Policy and Management Act that was passed in the early 1970’s it made it clear that Congress said that, ‘first, you must go to your local county sheriff for law enforcement activities.’”

    “Chenoweth was as much of a prophetess as she was an observer when she added, ‘Right now in Idaho and I am sure all over the West, they are moving people and human activities off the land.’

    (. . . )

    “Helen was also correct when she noted that the Federal Land Policy and Management Act (FLPMA), which was adopted in 1976, stipulated that BLM had to go through the county sheriff for any action that required law enforcement. Nearly four decades later, the BLM (and virtually every other federal agency) totally and thoroughly ignores this requirement.”

    (. . . )

    http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin800.htm

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  13. It still just looks like Bundy is running a marketing campaign and playing the patriotism card (which many seem to be picking up). Did Bundy get a raw deal? Certainly, and will continue to do so, it seems. But he is far from having the moral high-ground. IF! its this important for Patriotism and Federalism why isnt Nevada fighting the Feds to get this land back under state control? Bundy has admitted he owes money for his use of the land, his real beef seems to be how much and who he actually owes it to.

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  14. I really hope we get open carry in Texas soon. I’m looking for a small concealable 9mm mostly for my wife but if we don’t get open carry I’ll need one as well. As for open carry, back in 2000 I bought a brand new H&K USP .45 for $600. The only time I’ve had trouble with it is when I tried to run that winchester klean range ammmo with the truncated cone bullets through it. It HATED that stuff. Everything else it eats no problem, even Hornady:p My wife really likes it too but says it’s too heavy for her, but she likes how it shoots ‘soft’.

    Course, since I’m starting to do IDPA matches, I also want to find a 9mm for that cause I simply can’t afford to shoot my .45 unless I start reloading.

    See, guns for men are like shoes for women, we need one for every outfit:p

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