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Liberal politicians at the state level have been embolden by the corrupt, sinister, and misleading rhetoric spewing from the White House and DOJ. It’s nice to see manufactures joining us in this fight.
STAND UP against Obama and Eric Holder and resist tyranny! There can be no compromise on 2nd Amendment rights! Get involved and join the NRA.
*sigh*
there’s no fool like an old fool. sadly proven yet again.
Anyone want to screenshot this? I’m semi-curious to read his idiotic ramblings, but I don’t want to give ad revenue to the Huffington Joke.
I’m so glad someone discovered Amitai Etzioni & his “communitarianism” theory which is nothing more than soft fascism with one’s neighbors as the local Gestapo (“Bill, we keep hearing rumors that you own a lot of guns. Mind if we come in to take a look at your collection? Is your hobby really safe for your children and ours?”)
His “Domestic Disarmament” article was published in 1991 when the original AWB movement was gathering steam in Congress. Google it; the hatred for gun owners just pours off the page.
More recent & more dangerous is a paper by White House fascist Cass Sunstein called “Libertarian Paternalism” (2003). The oxymoronic title is deceptive, it is more garbage about ignorant gun people needing observation & control by their liberal “betters” and in my opinion it is what drives Obama’s urge to marginalize gun rights supporters.
Both of these screeds reveal much about the elitism & condescension of our Ruling Classes when they wag their scolding fingers in our direction.
This is NOT a true liberal position! A true liberal position would be to allow everyone the humanity of being able to defend themselves with whatever means they wish. I’m so sick of the lies.
The libtards took over in the mid 60’s.
Liberalism (now) is a mental disorder.
This is the kind of thing thats WAY more effective than the whole “I wont sell to you anymore”. This is the kind of thing that see’s elected officials looking for new lines of work come the day after elections.
Finally a “spilling the beans” statement of what they want – face it!
They know exactly what they want – it’s time we did the same. I’ve been working on a “Bill of Rights” for our side and I think it’s time we had such a guide.
Here is my quote of the day: “Eat A Bag of Dicks”
Just like they’re French fries
Oh I get it. Anything short of total disarmament will be called a compromise and hailed as a success in gun-control debate by both parties. Thanks, but no thanks.
There was a time when I would get outraged about quotes like this. Now, I just get sad and feel like I die a little bit inside as I think about where my country is going…
If you look up this guy in Wiki, you see he was a victom of the Nazi’s who survived. I do not understand how he has come to he current line of thinking given his past.
His thoughts and books on “Communitarian” have been largly discounted as being narrow minded and yet he has been allowed to lecture in many universities. He denounced the Apollo Space program because to much money in his view was being wasted where instead they could go to you know, just giving the money away to people who do not work or contribute to society. He is in esence a communist because in his view in a book he penned is that everyone should be “assigned” a “highly specialized” job by the government. He believes that USA has made the “mistake” of trying to spread “democracy” around the world. He adopted the USA as his home in the 50’s and from what I can see has pretty much tried to spread his views to destroy it ever since.
This is as far left as you can go and IMHO, just as the very far right are quacks, this guy is a quack and his views are unrealistic in the context of society as it really is today.
I find Jewish Fascism to be very ironic.
Wait…did he use Mexico as an example of effective gun control?
At first, I thought he was writing satire. Then I became terrified; this guy is a lunatic. Who signed off on giving him page space?
Review of amateur. Get some education and try o be less blindfolded.
First you are never had and never will have own a real AK 74. It’s impossible in US. You are using a clone made by same amateur, as this review. Second -primery arms pretty well made clone or red dot for the money.Aimpoint price is rediculess. And the last one, if you need a real red dot for AK get a “Kashtan”, “Obzor” or some other russian milspec red dot sight, at least “Kobra” with AK side mount and again educate yourself first.
seriously, good job Etzioni. Wayne LaPierre may be paranoid, but that does not mean they are not out to grab guns.
“Two big question: when will the big boys (Smith & Wesson, Glock and SIG) announce their intentions? And if they don’t join the movement, will consumers boycott the non-boycotters?”
They won’t. And no, they won’t, at least not in any measurable numbers or with measurable impact.
What difference does him signing it or not make? If he doesn’t sign it, doesn’t it become law eventually anyway? To be clear, my understanding is that he’s not deciding whether to sign it or veto it, but that he’s hesitating between signing and not signing it, correct?
Well, I suppose if an AR-10 is in my future, CMMG is the source. They were on the shortlist, anyway.
This is a man who’s familly suffered at the hands of the Nazis. His so called “Communitarian” (comunist/socialist/WTF) stance leaves me with a WTF? He must not have been paying attention.
Okay, you loon, the liberal (classical liberal, google it) is NOT to disarm the people. The liberal position is not the statist position because you see, you loony word shifter, is to focus on INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, first and always. Will disarming people make them free, independent and personally responsible? No, therefore it fails the liberal test.
The root word of the Liberal is LIBERTY.
You are correct, of course, in that “Classical” Liberalism is founded in Liberty. Even today “looser” laws regarding whatever are described as “liberal” and this harkens back to a time (18th Century) when liberals indeed called for less control from what was then a right-wing establishment of church and state. The Founding Fathers were liberals in this sense.
This was some to change, from being kibitzing outsiders they gained power and – under the influence of various socialists, reformers, and social engineers – soon evolved into the Libs of today. Controlling, managing and guiding along a basically good populace but one who needs to be protected from itself – the little dears.
It’s therefore with sadness that I heap abuse on the Liberals of today but there it is.
Thanks for voicing this post that is needed. I agree and have been thinking about this subject lately. While the AR can be used to hunt deer or in some cases for home defense (not in an urban environment please) it really is far closer to a military weapon the automatic vs. semi-auto issue aside. Why avoid the truth or be ashamed to admit it? Why keep dancing around pretending the AR is for hunting, fun target shooting, or the zombie-apocalypse? The 2A is first and foremost a recognized political right to defend ourselves from foreign and domestic government driven tyranny. If people want to reduce the demand by citizens for ARs then they need to reduce the spread of government and police power and intrusion into our lives, and to stabilize the national debt and our currency. We recognize ourselves as free citizens. The AR is the best choice to own for the current crisis our country is facing. End of story.
FYI – the second “pending” is “pending approval” … at least that’s what I was told.
Beretta, Magpul, they’ve already pulled the trigger on you. Don’t back down and get out; lock stock and barrel! Alabama will welcome you with open arms. If the libs know major gunmakers will bolt at the first sign of unconstitutional activity. They’ll stop and reverse their attacks on freedom (or the voters will).
Good! States that abuse our rights should be forced to suffer the consequences.
How many people have to die because of state intervention in economy, health care, agriculture, personal defense, education, for it to be considered a dictatorship? I would say, in contrast to the author, that it already is. People can live happy, productive lives under a dictatorship, but that doesn’t mean that it is acceptable, or not a dictatorship.
Is dictatorship measured by amount of freedoms lost? One can argue that all of the Bill of Rights have been broken. Certainly the second in the bill is no longer in effect. “Infringed” means inhibited or being the object of interference. The first “gun control” law removed in effect the second amendment, a declaration of the state that arms interference is not something the state will do to the people. We can begin to protect the second amendment only once we get it back, which is to eliminate all Union gun legislation.
“Pro gun” people need to stop pretending like the 2A still exists, as long as +10 capacity magazines, concealed carry, “assault” features such as a pistol grip on a rifle, etc. aren’t banned. I’m with you on these issues, but it’s largely out of pragmatism; the second amendment is long gone.
Unfortunately, nearly every citizen in the USA does not actually believe in the second amendment. If you don’t believe that it is relevant today, that full auto and freedom from state mandates is not allowable, then be consistent and try to repeal the amendment. If you do believe it is relevant, then try to eliminate all of the state’s infringement on arms bearing.
Two birds with one stone. I couldn’t agree more. Just being a machine gun doesn’t mean my AR isn’t a weapon of war. It just means I wish it had the rock and roll switch. And the difference is an important one, but it’s hard to get technical with the “shoulder thing that goes up” crowd. As far as resisting tyranny, anti-government forces would actually would be more poorly served by using larger weapons. Bombs and grenades are indiscriminate and more likely to cause civilian casualties while military/police would be protected by their armored vests.
Additionally, I don’t think the military would be politically reliable enough to be sent against Americans, even if they decided to ignore the Posse Comitatus Act. The National Guard would be a better bet, their usefulness would heavily depend on which state they’re from. And as we’ve already seen, many Sheriff’s departments are pro-2A. That leaves the disarmament crowd with local police, some National Guard units, and federal law enforcement. None of which had nukes last time I checked.
Excellent! Exactly what I’ve been talking about.
The issue has always been civil rights. I am an American citizen but because of my zip code I live in a constitution free zone? Because of where I work or shop my rights as a citizen don’t apply? I call bvllshit!
“Constitution Free Zone” – wonderful phrase! Nicely put.
Very nice move SAF. Great Job !
Good article. Honest and truthful to the core issue of what is the difference between an AR and what is a M16. Really, nothing. Something many pro-gunners try hard to differentiate. Not really sure why unless their version of the 2nd amendment is, “Guns are for hunting and sporting purposes.” Which is a losing argument by the way and one destined to constantly backfire on us as a whole.
My version of the 2A falls more in line with the citizen militia being a guarantee against government tyranny. We’re supposed to have similar, if not superior weaponry. At least in terms of personal armarment.
As for my M16A2 rifle being full-auto (3rd burst), I never used that function unless I wanted to waste ammo. A smart rifleman only uses semi-auto. So my civilian M4 clone and my USMC issue M16 really only differed in barrel length. That and the fact that unlike my M4 clone which has only been mine and is very well taken care of, the Marines who had my issued M16 before me, beat the shit out of it and it was well-worn.
If the neutered, semi-only AR-15 is a weapon of war, then what isn’t? Grandaddy’s old scoped Remington 700 is an M24 sniper rifle. Your Colt 1911 range toy is a miitary sidearm. I could go on, but what would be the point. “Weapons of war” is just advertising copy. The only meaning the phrase has is the one attached to it by the gungrabbers and wingnuts in order to frighten a nation of squib loads.
The AR is just a rifle. It’s not a weapon of anything unless it’s turned on a human being, just like fertilizer isn’t a weapon of mass destruction unless somebody uses it for that purpose. The AR is just a rifle. Period.
Okay I’m only 30, but doesn’t anybody else find it hilarious that the guy’s name is McCarthy? What he’s doing is the textbook definition of “McCarthyism” from the 50’s Communist scare days. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
Wiki: “McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence. It also means “the practice of making unfair allegations or using unfair investigative techniques, especially in order to restrict dissent or political criticism.”
Might as well apply it to “shoulder thing that goes up” [Carolyn] McCarthy as well!
thank you for clearing up that AR15.com nonsense about PWS.
What happened was there were a group of readers (primarily from AR15.com) that only read the first page of PWS, which was devoid of PWS’ response, and automatically drew to the wrong conclusion (which was based off of FACEBOOK to begin with)
anyways. utter idiocy.
In Michael Bloomberg’s New York City, the “stop and frisk” program targets poor and minorities in disproportionate numbers.
Out of 500,000 to 750,000 “stop and frisks” per year
– 80% of those stopped are black or Hispanic
– 90% of the those stopped have committed no crime
– 02% of the time some type of contraband is found
– 01% of the time a weapon is found
Anyone wishing to boycott S&W, Glock, Sig, etc…please let me know. I will give you my address and pay for shipping on any of thier evil products you wish to get out of your gun safes…:)
Oh, and don’t forget your FN’s too…since they will be making evil black rifles for the very same oppressive government that doesn’t want you to have that very same rifle…
I respect and will consider first companies that publicly support the 2A for my personal business. I even respect the ones that publicly announce their intention in the other direction, at least they have the guts to say it. The quiet giants…while I’m not going to throw away my products from them, they will be bottom of the list for my future business.
Hopefully, capitalism and the free market will work to our advantage and persuade businesses to do the right thing and not support/sell to a government that won’t allow sales to it’s citizens.
“On Jan. 24, I introduced the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013, a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices, while protecting the rights of law-abiding Americans to own weapons for sporting, recreation and safety purposes”
-that bitch from cali
how am i supposed to discourage foreign invaders and fight tyrants, the constitutional duty set before, if i cant kill masses with high ammuntion magazines?
30 years ago I specialized in picking subjects that I knew the teacher would hate and then write the essay of a lifetime. I actually had one honest teacher who would (very grudgingly) grade them with A’s while others would waffle and be all over the page on the grade. I figured it took a hell of a lot more skill to pull it off and I was greatly bored by high school.
That said, if the teacher said “pick any subject”, then it’s time to pick any subject.
Anyone know where to get that awesome shirt?
I, too, just took ownership of the 18.5″ version & love it. It has run 30 year old STANAG mags & current production PMags just fine. My preference are the 20rd mags. It has now become my 2nd favorite rifle; the first being my Savage 10FCM chambered in 7.62×39. If only it took AK mags ….
The Mossberg MVP is not for everyone, nor, do I think, was it designed for mega-capacity AR mags. Keep them under 30rds and load ’em light to 25-28rds and you’re set for all day fun.
There is a problem with this article. We MUST state the difference between full auto and semiauto. The full auto in tandem with a ‘real’ high capacity magazine of 50-100 round drums can easily kill 100 or more people under the right conditions (where the bad guy may have chained the door/doors and sprayed a larger crowd with nowhere to go). Such a weapon is truly a dangerous device of limited benefit to a homeowner defensively, even if legal. I just want to have what the average cop has, not the military (well, I would like the military stuff, but I dont need it).