“It’s true, too, that a background check would not have stopped Adam Lanza, who had no criminal record, and whose mother had reportedly bought the guns he used in Newtown. But laws influence culture, just as culture influences laws, and if Congress enacted a serious piece of gun-control legislation perhaps that might initiate a subtle shift in American attitudes toward guns, and that might eventually lead some parent with a deeply troubled, deeply isolated son fascinated by violence to think twice before turning the family home into a munitions depot. Conversely, if lawmakers won’t pass even a modest reform supported by the vast majority of Americans, they will be capitulating to the N.R.A.’s corrosive view that the only answer to gun violence is more guns.” – Margaret Talbot in Why is Congress So Afraid of Gun Control? [via newyorker.com]
Not about politics my ass.
She must be referring to the Culture of Tyranny.
“But laws influence culture”
Sure worked with Prohibition, didn’t it? America was transformed into a dry culture that persists to this day.
Seriously, using coercive legislation to change the culture to suit some legislators’ prejudices is, in my opinion, raw fascism & nothing less.
To a typical New Yorker reader, gun rights advocates “simply aren’t the kind of people that decent, caring, compassionate liberals would want to associate with”.
The word “prohibition” to gun spiders is like holy water to vampires. USE IT “LIBERALLY”! THROW IT IN THEIR FACES!!
“Why is Congress so afraid of Gun Control?” Cause they saw what happened to the last set of congress-critters who passed gun control and the current set wants to keep their jobs.
And if a strong set of gun control laws is supposed to influence the culture, why didn’t is stop the Columbine killers who committed their crime in the middle of the last big gun control law?
Any subject to keep attention away from how pathetic the economy is and how terrible the last 5 yrs have been. He’s the worst ever and wants to talk about anything but that.
I can’t believe people get paid to write thoughtless dribble like this.
America was largely founded upon the-ends-don’t-justify-the-means principles to ensure that liberties and rights were not trampled upon under the guise of some greater good. A minority fundamentally had some protection from a majority, and conversely a majority had some insulation from a ruling minority (in theory, at least).
Stripping away the RKBA because a bunch of sociologists THINK it MIGHT lower the chance of statistically insignificant mass shootings couldn’t be more un-American.
It’s pretty ironic how Liberals like to use dead children as props to push their political agenda, except of course when it comes to the abortion issue. In that case they can’t stand the sight of them.
the only answer to violence is to defend oneself. handing responsibility for your safety over to somebody else will never be the answer.
“But laws influence culture, just as culture influences laws, and if Congress enacted a serious piece of gun-control legislation perhaps that might initiate a subtle shift in American attitudes toward guns”
Occasionally “Homo Hoplophobicus” has a Freudian slip.
She just laid out the endgame of all gun control. Such folk detest the fact that firearms are a tradition in America, and as such wish to employ the law to jettison it. Its not about magazines or evil rifles, but eventually turning our country into a pussified collection of people scared at the very image of a gun.
Would you buy a used car from that man? Sure the wheels will probably fall off & the steering wheel is barely fastened, you will probably die in the deathtrap, but it sure is a beauty he goes on to say. /// I don’t think we are talking about amending the constitution here so if thats correct the courts could still overturn some of the gun grabbing crap. They have no choice except to keep on pushing their stupidity. There was another man who thought he had black America in the bag, MC Hammer & he is probably selling fries now. I live in a black neighborhood & the once proud now don’t even mention him. I think he is more & more becomming the million mom march, Randy
When faced with the threat of enemy soldiers firing upon them, I do hope our soldiers will not answer violence with violence. Margaret Talbot has shown me the error in my logic. See, I thought that because someone may use a gun against me, I should be able to defend myself in a similar manner. But now I see the error of my ways. I will instead say “Please, don’t shoot me.” and demonstrate my empty hands. Thank you for enlightening me, Mrs. Talbot!
Sure, laws shape our culture. Like when slick Willy tried to take away our AR15s. We ditched our mini14s and now we have an AR culture. Worked like a charm.
Klein!!! What nationality is that?… Not another one.
Why the hell don’t you people wake up and realize who the enemy is.
Get your heads out of the sand
I believe Mr. Klein is American.
As for your suggestion that Jews are conspiring to take away your gun rights, true! But Jews are also conspiring to protect your gun rights. Dan, me, Ralph the head of the SAF, the JPFO etc.
The enemy is anyone who would infringe upon any of our natural or God-given rights, regardless of any other factor.
entered all of them, my work here is done
Make sure to use a dummy e-mail address. I was a little too trustworthy with them last time I signed up for everything, now that particular e-mail gets spam all day long for various things.
Just a PSA for the other readers.
– D
“But laws influence culture” and that’s why no one smokes dope anymore.
That lady is a dumbass.
Yesterday, Obama’s speech on gun control was led by an introduction by the mother of one of the Newtown incident’s victims. She said-paraphrasing-
“Americans should stand with us, before you become a victim of gun violence”.
In my minds eye right as she said it:
“Lady, ‘I’ won’t be a victim of anything. I have a gun, and know how to use it.The criminal bastard who kicks in my door is a different story.”
“Perhaps” + “subtle” +”attitudes” = reason to infringe upon our fundamental rights
Great thinking.
I hope the big o’s toilet overflows while he is sitting on the only throne that suits him. Seriously this kind of BS is not only wholly intolerable, it’s illegal to suggest such trampling of the bill of rights. This crowd may as well be chanting “Sieg Heil.”
hey guys did you hear? if you believe in the constitution you are anti american!
any liberals wonder why newpapers are going out of business
Make sure you fire off those emails and phone calls. Again. Let’s not go quietly.
Good luck finding ammo!
i had a 22/45 mk3 and got rid of it. the take down with the mk3 is rediculous, it eats anything you put in it however, but after having to call ruger 4x’s to get the thing back together, i called it a day.
I’ve owned several 22/45’s over the years and enjoyed every one of them. I like this one as well, but also wonder if they might be willing to offer a longer barrel in 5.5″ or 6 7/8″? Yes, I’m well aware that it was designed to take a suppressor and that in itself would alter the weapon’s balance. But just as some may want a too-short barrel that balances out with a suppressor, some of us may still want a longer barrel with the option to add a suppressor eventually. Ammo selection would be pretty critical, I’m sure. Or, uhm….I could just get both the 22/45 Lite AND a Hunter. And a Competition. Yeah, that’s it. That’ll work just fine for me 🙂
Got ammo?
Tom
So why aren’t all of these people relocating to the gun free utopia just south of our border?
Oh, wonderful. The Stepford wife of the OCD Nanny-state has some wishful thinking she wants to share with us. First, and probably most obvious(and offensive)we aren’t supporters of the 2A and the Constitution, we’re “firearms advocates” who agree with the “corrosive views” of the N.R.A. Most anti-gun zealots step adroitly over that point and narrow their talking-points to issues about “things” instead of about principles. Heaven knows, they don’t want something as illusory as first principles standing in their way. This Ministry of Truth regional field agent knows what’s good for us, but we’re just too socially unenlightened and pedestrian to appreciate her all-knowingness. Isn’t it shocking to discover that common sense is thin on the ground, but we’ve got common nonsense by the bushel? You see, we would be much happier and safer if only we didn’t have to live under so many of these damned ridiculous principles. Why, the nerve of us, just who the Hell do we think we are, defying the will of the majority??
Patriots.
The police found two bolt action rifles, a BB gun and a .22LR revolver in the Lanza house. Add to this the three guns the killer took with him on his murderous rampage, and you have a total of seven guns in the Lanza house. This is not a “munitions depot”. It is barely a starter set.
Ok – for all intents and purposes, this tool has abandoned his US Citizenship. Let him continue to enjoy the splendors of Mexico (but a real man would move to Juarez and disarm the drug cartels there).
From Huffpro:
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Oh, and this is part of his “series” on guns and Newtown. Translation: He needs to hype himself up to sell more books. Whatever.
I hope that “plan” meets with their approval, Randy
I purchased a Boberg XR9-S in mid 2012. It has a mid 500 range S.N. I ran 75-80 rounds of Winchester 115 Gr. RN without a glitch. After that it began to jam. When I returned home and disassembled it for cleaning you could see that the internal parts were very dirty from burnt powder residue. A week later after cleaning, lubing and reassembly I went back to the indoor range and shot more the of same ammo. After about eight sessions like this with no hitches except as noted, my pistol has given me confidence that it will do its job effectively every time called upon, provided it receives what it likes, a clean body inside and out and fed a non-irratating diet. My XR9-S does not like sharpe pointed ammo, but loves round noise bullets for target practice and digest self defense loads like the Federal premium Hydra-Shok’s and Tactical HST’s, as well as Corbon’s DPX self defense ammo without a hitch. I have experienced no problems with the XR9-S with the exception of shooting ammo which burns dirty. Make it your priority to eliminate known deterants to accuracy and dependability. No one expects to be in a situation where it can be said their life or the the life of another is but only one breath away from the reality of death by anothers intentional violent behavior. Your pistol and ability to effectively stop the life altering threat is dependant upon your spontaneous skillful response and mechanical dependability. Shooting a few hundred rounds in a couple of sessions does not validate a pistols reliability. My Boberg is consistant, trustworthy because it came from the factory with no known mechanical problems AND I LEARNED TO GIVE IT WHAT IT LIKES, until, by the numbers, it proved itself.
I have had two of these (sans green logo) for about 5 years @$100 they are an excelent optic, the reticle has 4 hold over points and the 1 MOA dot is excelent for longer ranges, I use mine for deer hunting as well as recreational shooting. I have yet to burn out my first battery. Looks aside the unit is very durable. There is a 2X version at higher cost
At $200 it is over-priced, Barska sells a similar unit for a bit over $100
One of the things that seperates sociopathic killers from the mundane is their joy in their ability to disarm, even gain the trust of, the people they have chosen as their victims.
This is the tactic used to a great extent by the Left, it is what drives the endless orgspasam of lies and fear mongering
For all you cop-haters out there…..
Hello, you have reached the Police Dept’s Voice Mail. Pay close attention as we have to update the choices often as new and usual circumstances arrive. Please select one of the following options:
To whine about us not doing anything to solve a problem that you created yourself, press 1.
To inquire as to whether someone has to die before we’ll do something about a problem, press 2.
To report an officer for bad manners, when in reality the officer is trying to keep your neighborhood safe, press 3.
If you would like us to raise your children, press 4.
If you would like us to take control of your life due to your chemical dependency, press 5.
If you would like us to instantly restore order to a situation that took years to deteriorate, press 6.
To provide a list of officers you personally know so we will not take enforcement action against you, press 7.
To sue us, or tell us you pay our salary and you’ll have our badge, or to proclaim our career is over, press 8.
To whine about a ticket and/or complain about the many other uses for police rather than keeping your dumb behind in line, press 9.
Please note your call may be monitored to assure proper customer support and remember…..we’re here to save your behind, NOT kiss it!
Thanks for calling your local police dept. and have a nice day.
This is exactly the kind of cultural engineering I was talking about in re: “What next?” We need to do it. They certainly are. Fortunately, there’s a rejoinder built into wuss-doc’s position.
“Indeed, making drunk driving unacceptable has been a wonderful exercise in building a culture of responsibility, one addressing the reality that driving drunk you can kill people, most often yourself.
Owning a gun you can use effectively is a similar responsible choice, this time addressing the reality that you may otherwise be over-matched by a threat to your own life, or someone else’s. Dr-wuss is wrong, however that strength or training are substitutes. *Responsible* defense with a gun is only when the need is dire & your strength & other skills aren’t enough.
They’re both about stepping up to the responsibility of keeping good people alive. One’s about declining to add to the problem. The other’s about being able to solve a problem you didn’t create, kind of like learning CPR.”
W…T…F