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Quote of the Day: Run That By Me Again Edition

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Mayor Michael Venezia (courtesy essexnewsdaily.com)

“We’re not trying to take guns away. We don’t want our police facing more powerful weapons than they have.” – Bloomfield New Jersey Mayor Michael Venezia quoted in Anti-gun violence group visits Bloomfield [via northjersey.com]

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Robert Farago

Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. “Mosbacher said that, due to the U.S. Congress’ inactivity on the issue, the people who have the most power to reduce gun violence in America are gun manufacturers, the majority of which are based in Europe ”

    Sort of an odd quote. The majority of new guns Americans buy come from Europe?

    For a Jew that is supposed to ‘never forget’ he must have been alive in the 90’s when S&W almost went under due to politicking with the Clinton Admin? The first ‘smart gun’ from a major gun company is the last gun they ever sell in the US….

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  2. I forgot to say but by the look of ugly mug I bet his wife Nancy does exactly as he suggests of go F yourself since it is probably a much better option than doing him.

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  3. If you could sell stupidity states like NJ ,California ,CT ,MD would be some of the richest states in the union based in their elected officials alone.

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  4. “Liberals might reasonably have an additional reason not to self-identify as gun owners: fellow” secret gun-toting “liberals might disapprove.”
    FIFY

    Also, not being facetious here, but if someone identifies themselves as transgender, queer, and female, does that mean that she was born a man, but is now a woman who sleeps with other women?

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  5. I like how the choice of words “anti-gun violence group” implies that there is a “pro-gun violence” group. A nice subtle way to paint gun owners as supporting the violent acts that bad people commit with guns, instead of what we really support, a constitutional right.

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  6. This is in the same “state” where David Gregory openly flaunted the law by possessing an illegal high-capacity magazine on TV and not even an investigation or forced surrender of the magazine was made.

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  7. The police have all types of weapons and the color of the law to shoot first and ask questions later — they will never be outgunned. It is just one more useless execuse

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  8. NJ is so renowned for its wise ethical politicians. They are why so many people are moving to NJ, NY, and the other wonderful low tax low crime states. Maybe their blimpy governor will float into national politics and save US from liberal decay. Karl Rove says so.

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  9. Carry in the woods where there are both four-legged and two-legged predators. Think about it: what is the worst possible place that a predator could attack? Answer: in the middle of nowhere where no one is around to see or hear the attack, no is around to help, you probably don’t have cell service, and even if you did have cell service response time could be hours.

    When you are out in the woods, carry the largest caliber that you can. A nice revolver in .357 Magnum is a decent choice. Of course .44 Magnum is better. If you are sensitive to recoil and Magnums are off the table, then consider a revolver with a six inch barrel chambered for .45 Long Colt and load it with hardcast lead bullets. While the muzzle velocity of such a round is modest at 900 fps or so, that hardcast lead bullet will create something like a 3/4 inch diameter hole in an attacker — and make that hole well over 20 inches through bone and muscle. That sort of terminal ballistics will seriously impair any attacker.

    Important note: do NOT carry hardcast lead bullets for self-defense around town. The property of hardcast lead bullets that make them fantastic for defense against animal predators (huge amounts of penetration) make them bad for defense against human attackers who often have innocent bystanders behind them.

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  10. I live in north central MN on 15 acres adjacent to 1500 acres of state forest and 2 summers ago we had one walk thru our yard in the middle of the day. It had a rabbit in its mouth. Both my labs were out running around, kids playing and my wife even got video with her iPhone. That thing was not afraid. 2 weeks later a huge black bear wandered thru. My wife is comfortable with her Remington 12 gauge but I can’t convince her to carry a sidearm when she’s outside. Any suggestions?

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  11. Well debunked, except the mush heads who read that libtards claptrap will accept it as gospel without question and not bother to read anything that contradicts it.

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  12. I’m a (sometimes) web developer, and I had cause to use the ATF site to help a friend submit his forms. What a nightmare. Pretty much anybody could have done a better job than whoever the ATF hired. In fact, the people the ATF hired could have done a better job if allowed to.

    The problem with government contracts is that the developer MUST write to the requirements as stated. If the contract doesn’t provide a complete and well-defined set of requirements, the developer is up against the wall, because acceptance testing is a literal interpretation of the stated requirements, with no room for “AH-HA moments” on the part of the developer. This means they can’t fix stuff that they might find deficient in the design/requirements/implementation.

    Finally, the developer has little/no input as to architecture or hardware suitability. The feds put the software on the hardware they have available, and typically, that means shoe-horning an app onto an already overloaded server.

    In all honesty, I fully expect that the ATF took proactive and intentional steps to make it as difficult as possible on the developer, and then saddled the app with crappy servers.

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  13. Mountain lions became protected sacred animals in California in 1971, and their population there increased to the point where deer and bighorn sheep populations have declined. The lion protection laws were passed by legislators from the big cities (LA, Frisco, etc.) whose constituents never have to deal with mountain lions except in zoos.

    I have a proposal for any multi-millionaire hunter reading this post: “Someone” could fund a clandestine live trapping program in lion-heavy areas. Trapped lions would be sedated and quickly transported to, and released at night into, Golden Gate National Park in San Francisco, or any large city park in a nearby city (LA and NY would be great). The city people could then get wonderful personal experiences with these “magnificent predators” without having to travel into the boonies.

    A grizzly bear transplant program would be a logical next step.

    Hey, just trying to give the city folks a truly natural wilderness experience.

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  14. Winchester gallery in Ft Worth. Showroom is cramped, dark, and musty. Used and new guns are overpriced. Worst part though is I stood around for minutes while two clerks talked to one guy. during that time others came and left without being greated. I finally gave up and left as well. Havent been back.

    I hate saying bad things about a business, and I feel LGS get more hate then deserved though.

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  15. Place in Pa. This had nothing to do with me but I was in there and a woman was buying her first gun and two clerks were treating and talking to her like she was some kind of idiot. They were arrogant, condescending and rude. Have not been back. Guess they didn’t want to sell a gun.

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  16. I have learned to give the guys at the LGS a little slack. I am not sure what the ration of ‘Lookers’ to ‘Buyers’ is but if it is 10-1, 20-1 or 50-1I kinda get their ire and ill attitude at the general public. Even if I do not buy a firearm I try to at least buy some ammo. That sometimes changes their attidude.

    Also, the worst LGS I have been to has been The Outpost Armory near Murfreesboro TN. Every firearm is much more expensive than say Academy, Bass Pro and in the area. I paid $509.99 for a Gen 3 Glock 26 at a local pawn shop or could have paid over $600 at The Outpost Armory.

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  17. Shore Galleries in Lincolnwood just a few blocks outside of Chicago. High prices and if you’re not a Chicago cop you can go F yourself.

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  18. Mina’s slash and burn is just the thing the liberals love to read. If she wasn’t so busy playing keyboard commando she may actually be able to provide some sort of helpful commentary instead of simply venting her spleen.

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  19. I’ll take a different approach; quality – service – product knowledge – facility *excellence* as opposed to deficiencies and failings.

    The San Diego area has a fair number of gun shops and gun shop/range establishments. I’ve purchased at five LGS stores and used the range at the two of these locations that have them. One LGS/range is by far a standout that has been continuous upgraded since early 2008 when I began using it. That range and gun-shop is my ‘go to’ facility.

    P2K (Project 2000) is far and away the best local range and gun shop in the San Diego / South San Diego area. They have a welcoming and extensive mostly younger staff with a wide range and depth of knowledge of firearms and shooting including competition shooting. Two indoor well lit, extremely well ventilated shooting ranges; one long range rifle and one short range pistol, rifle and shotgun. Multi shooter outdoor trap – and skeet – ranges, and a limited use outdoor range for LE training shoots / special activities. They maintain a well-stocked inventory of guns of all types, and ammo / shooting gear is plentiful. Very shooter – and family – friendly. The facility has regular ongoing significant improvement upgrades which are accomplished with very little intrusion or impact on operational activities. The ranges are designed to be intuitively safe and range rules are promoted in ways that effectively gain range user cooperation without being ‘coercive’. The character and tone of this establishment is cautiously very upbeat and positive in nature. Plenty of seating with large commercial 8 place tables near the various range entrances, and there is an assortment of snacks available along with full size cases containing cold drinks and ice cream. Always a positive experience; and I always treat myself and anyone with me to an ice cream on the way out.
    BTW I have no affiliation with P2K other than as a customer – member.

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  20. Take the stupid retention strap off of that holster and it becomes amazingly thin such that your handgun pretty much disappears against your body. Remember, your pants and belt are pulling that firearm and holster in tight against your body so it doesn’t show unless you are wearing a tight shirt or sweater.

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  21. Jerry’s shooting irons in Ocean Springs, MS.

    After Sandy Hook, I remember they were selling Tula 223 for about $24 a box. Helluva lot more for other brands. I left and didn’t return until recently. I went in and asked if they had any stock wrenches for sale. The owner (guessing Jerry) turns around and says “I do….but not for you.” I immediately turned around and never been back. Dad’s Super Pawn in Pascagoula, MS is a close second. Heard the employees argue with a customer about open carry. Employees didn’t like the idea of everyday Joe open carrying. They believed it would turn the coast into the “Wild West” and “blood will flow on the streets”.

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  22. If Detroit is anything like Chicago then that number is going to explode as soon as it gets warm. Might Detroit become the DGU capital of the US?

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  23. This should never have been an issue. What part of “Shall Not Be Infringed” does the government, atf, and states not understand?

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  24. Okay well i have this gun took it out cleaned it made sweet love to it put it back toghteri then proceded to fire 2000 rounds out of it it stove piped 3 times bt i figured out why it was stove piping my arms hands and fingers where tired from loading and shooting so i was limp wristing the recoil why would you want to limp wrist the recoil figure it out buts that is the only problem i have had

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  25. Hi Josh,
    I really enjoyed reading your thoughts on shorter barrels. I am new to the sport, and have just purchased my first .308 rifle. I would be really interested to know what you think about different twist rates, and how this might come into play with shorter barrels. I note the barrel you used for testing was a 1:10 twist. After reading your articles I am very keen to cut my .308 down to 16 inches, but it has a 1:12 twist. Does this matter? For context I will primarily use this rifle for hunting, then target shooting, but only to improve my own skill level. I rarely have the opportunity to shoot out past 300 meters, and would only do so target shooting. I have no interest in trophies, or winning F-class competitions. I am interested in shortening the barrel of my rifle to reduce its weight and overall length so it is easier to carry when hunting. I have looked around for information on this but it seems to be hard to come by. Most information I have come across on twist rate seems to relate to the weight of the projectiles you are using, and doesn’t mention barrel length. From what I have read a faster twist rate like 1:10 is only required to stabilize heaver projectiles over 180 grains (in .308 Win). The concern I have with my 1:12 barrel is that the projectile might not have enough barrel time to properly stabilize if I shorten it, with this slower twist rate. I have no real need to go above 168 grain projectiles, and would only do so to get a better BC. Any thoughts you might have would be greatly appreciated.

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