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Quote of the Day: I’ll Have Fries With That Edition

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“It’s a bit strange to me that you think you need to carry a gun when you’re having a cheeseburger.” – Chef Sean Brock in Want Guns With That? Chefs Find Politics Hotter Than Kitchen [at nytimes.com]

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  1. The Red Jacket situation is not much different from an armored truck company. If you’re entrusted to carry millions of dollars, and a thousand goes unaccounted for, you can’t just say “a dog ate it.” and expect to stay in business.

    As a gun manufacturer, 10 serial numbers were unaccounted for, and that’s unacceptable for a firearm manufacturer. The ATF had no choice but to pull the license, otherwise they would be useless as a government agency. It doesn’t matter who has millions of fans. That doesn’t change the facts.

    Some would say that making a deal with Will Hayden and allowing him to carry on as usual with the company in someone else’s name made the whole exercise meaningless. They may be right.

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  2. Not once in the entire article is the word “douchebag” (the term the restaurant owner used to describe people who carry concealed) mentioned. Instead, they say the sign used a “derogatory term used for an obnoxious person”, leaving the reader with the impression in could have been something as innocuous as “jerk”.

    Ah, the New York Times…all the news that fits their agenda, they print.

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      • Yep. If he would have just posted a simple “no guns allowed sign” it wouldn’t have been an issue. Certainly not more than a local issue. He’s the one that politicized the situation by calling a large portion of the population douchebags.

        No comments allowed on the article, of course. Good old NYT. Nothing if not consistent.

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    • Plus, story comments turned off so you can’t correct them. I notice that most NYT articles these days run with comments disabled. I wonder what the formula/reason is?

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    • Agreed. I don’t “get” the foodie movement and phenomenon. Just prepare my food in a manner that I like and leave me alone. In one end and out the other.

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  3. Bit mixed on the pics, it has already been done and the images WILL be pirated and used for all manner of crap.

    Asa for the A1 joke woman, I would wager she and her daughter fall into the category of leftard. They clearly both need smacked a few dozen times, although I doubt that will fix them either.

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  4. The intensity of the interaction has made Mr. Brock realize how much the role of the chef has changed.

    “People are really looking to you for answers and guidance and your opinion on things,” Mr. Brock said.

    No. They’re really not. How about you just shut up and bring me a sandwich.

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  5. And it is the cook’s business what I carry,,,,,,how?

    Idiots like this need their places clearly signed so armed citizens know NOT to stop robberies or assaults being perpetuated against them or their employees. Reapeth what they seweth.

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  6. Strange? You want to talk about strange…

    I think it’s strange when people have a diet coke while gorging on a 1150 calorie heart attack with cheese.

    Your food is killing more people than my gun is, so put your hipster glasses back on, get in the kitchen and make me something yummy.

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  7. “POSTED A SARCASTIC SIGN” It was NOT a sarcastic sign, it was down right rude, and denigrated gun owners. I love how this article glosses over the fact that had it been a standard LAW abiding no guns sign, this wouldn’t have been a footnote in the local grade school paper, but the whole point and the reason it did reach national attention WAS THE WORDING OF THE SIGN! #smh

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  8. RSO here. I don’t think there should be a requirement for training, but the issue that new gun owners face is that they don’t know what they don’t know. If i had a dollar for every time I’ve been muzzle-swept at the range, I’d own the damn place. So yes, lots of people understand not to point a gun at anyone who doesn’t need to be shot, but lots of other people don’t, or they’re too careless and cavalier about the whole thing.

    People new to guns might not know that there are several cardinal rules for safe gun handling unless they get at least a brief rundown with someone else who has gun experience. That doesn’t mean a week at Thunder Ranch, but it does mean spending 5 or 10 minutes with a RSO or someone similar who can put them on the right path.

    So there’s the issue of basic safety. Next there’s the issue of competency. Most people’s only exposure to guns is through movie and tv. They think that bullets magically find their way to the bad guy, regardless of proper grip, stance, sight alignment, front sight focus, etc. I’ve seen plenty of people that could barely hit a full-size silhouette at 21 feet, but with a little coaching, they can significantly tighten up their groups.

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  9. Nathan, the point is many, as in most Muslims have never read the Koran themselves and have had it read and interpreted to them.

    A case in point is the hijab or head covering. NOWHERE in the Koran does it say women should cover their heads. The only reference to women’s clothing is Sura 24.13 which states that women should cover their chests. Pre Islamic pagan era Arab women would motivate their men to fight by showing their breasts before battle.

    Muslims have it in for us because at one time they were conquering Europe and were source of knowledge on medicine, astronomy, mathematics, and many other sciences. Now they blame us and each other (Arab vs Turk, Sunni vs Shia, Wahabi vs everyone else) about their current state of poverty and helplessness and wonder how this happened, who did it, and why?

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  10. This bloke should shut up. If he doesn’t approve it’s his business, don’t tell me what I can and can’t do. By the way, isn’t he setting himself up? Lol.

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  11. I carry a gun to get a burger, so when the bad guys bring them, don’t shoot those who refuse to carry them, and in fact hate me for it as well.

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  12. The idea that you could possibly know when or where you’ll need a firearm is a logical fallacy. Carrying a gun is exactly like using a seat belt: it only works if you use it every time – even if you’re just going to the corner Kwik-E-Mart or to the McDonalds drive-up.

    If you did know when & where you would need a gun (or a seat belt), YOU WOULDN’T GO THERE.

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  13. Here is what I find strange at restaurants, a young couple where the girl is wearing nice clothes and the guy is wearing jeans, sneakers, cammo Bone Collector t-shirt, and trucker hat. Then they sit there and never speak but text away on their iPhones.
    I find it strange that beautiful girls date douche bags that have no respect. I find it strange that people need smart phones while eating a cheeseburger. I don’t find it strange that someone wants to exercise their right to bear arms.

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  14. “The LCpl took the shot from about a half mile away, hitting an insurgent wearing an explosive vest, which detonated and killed the man wearing it along with five men standing nearby. The soldier, who was not identified for security reasons, apparently also took out a Taliban machine-gunner at a range of about 4,400 feet with the first shot he fired on his tour of duty. One shot, six kills. That’s doing it the right way.”

    Lewis Machine and Tool baby!!!

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  15. Well then, sir, if it makes you feel any better, you can rest easy that this particular gun owner will not come to your restaurant with a gun. Or without one, for that matter.

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  16. again, I question the lost productivity metric. People wasting that much time are probably saving even more time and money by not wasting time and money on crap like G2 RIP ammo. $1.5 billion in value as I see it. And, seeing Jerry Miculek outfit a tactical stapler? Priceless.

    Unfortunately, with big readership means that I expect to see Moms Demand and Brady now go after TTAG like they do the NRA as an extremist bunch of OFWG promoting child killing. Or, something. Having a TTAG contributor photographed with Watts, and then Yee discredited, and 2+million eyeballs seeing it, has to hurt. Unfortunately its just a flesh wound for the prohibitionists. I am surprised they have not already. I always wonder incidentally what the overlap is between NRA membership and TTAG readership. No way to know, but I strongly suspect a lot of viewers are not. Great job there, by the way. Keep it up.

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  17. It’s a bit strange to me that a business owner wants to alienate a whole lot of potential customers. That’s perfectly fine for him to have his views and to refuse service to those he wants to, and it’s perfectly fine for me and for anyone else to choose other places to spend out money at.

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  18. I’m a Czech so there’s a few things I might want to comment on but there’s one thing I would like to point out right now, probably because it is a matter of pride. You mention that the Czech small-arms industry has a history dating back to the 17th century.

    Well, I would like to mention the fact that the word “pistol” is most likely derived from the Czech word “píšťala” (which means flute), which was a name given to a class of primitive man-portable firearms sometime around 1420. So our history of small-arms manufacture is even longer than some might think.

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  19. As I’ve noted in past, when the Millenials wake up, they are going to be “pissed” about being used by the Progressives… and the early indication is once again, as they say, in CA- “as California goes so goes the nation”

    Sometimes, its the indie press that scoops the StateRunMedia,
    which appears to have gotten the Talking Point Memo, ie
    1. “radio silence” (CNN, NYT, MSNBC)
    or
    2. “Its Not Fair” (RAAACCIIISSSTTT!) presser by Yee’s lawyer (CBS)

    For as the BlogFather AKA He Who Rules the InnerTubz” points out-

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/186155/

    you can try, but “you can’t stop the signal, Mel…”

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Keith-Jackson-emerges-as-major-figure-in-Calif-5368557.php

    and “MOCK THEM”
    http://blog.sfgate.com/thebigevent/2014/04/01/seven-ironic-post-arrest-leland-yee-press-releases/

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  20. My wife is a very good shot and got very frustrated with her new bodyguard 380 when she couldn’t hit the center target area at 15 feet. After many rounds fired I asked her to let me shoot the gun and immediately discovered that not only was the trigger pull long but it was impossible to get the shot off without jerking the trigger. The abnormal force at the end of a long trigger pull is the reason for her inaccuracy! I handed her my 38 snub-nose and she hit the center target area seven out of ten shots at 15 feet. Incidentally, it was her first time shooting my 38 and one shot was a bulls eye! WROTE TO S&W TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS LIFE THREATENING PROBLEM.

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  21. Slate published a sample of photos. Are those photos representative of the entire shoot (pun intended)? Fairly benign to me. I work and interact with a good cross-section of people. All people I know who live in the inner city own guns for personal and family protection. All are African-American. All people I know who are business owners or managers, carry guns. If I took a cross section of all gun owners in my area, it would be a cross section of all of my area. I do not know anyone who doesn’t own a gun (even a neighbor who has just turned 90 and is a widower).

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  22. “It’s no secret that corrupt politicians are more of a factor in large urban centers than in rural communities and small towns.”

    I’m not disagreeing with your overall premise, but I take issue with this statement. Site your source. I would submit that urban political corruption is simply much better documented as it is subject to greater scrutiny by the 4th estate (except when the press is getting their own kickbacks). There are plenty of “Boss Hoggs” in this world.

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  23. As a former resident of Chicago, I’ll offer the following broad Categories of Disarmament Lobbyist.

    Category One is the academic. His ivory tower neatly shields him from the harsh realities of life in Real America. Having spent his entire life in an academic environment , he views it as his solemn duty under the utopian principles of global unity to all but demand the deletion of guns among the citizens. In a perfect kumbiyah society, why would you need to shoot someone ?

    Category two is the victim. This person’s had a bad experience involving a firearm, and wants to ensure the rest of us feel their angst and emotional trauma via total disarmament. They’ve been robbed, sexually assaulted, or been shot before, and figure the cost side of the equation is so bad there’s no rational reason for guns among the population. These are the folks who would demand even the police disarm once Mr Joe Citizens been safely de-clawed.

    Last, we come to The Opprotunists. This species of anti only surfaces after a major crisis, and sees the disarmement of you and I as a business opportunity. I won’t distinguish politicians from career criminals , because often times they’re one and the same. One thing the gang leader and the city Mayor can agree on:gun bans are good for business. It keeps the citizens disarmed for easy pickings by both organized crime and organized government , and gives criminals with badges an opportunity to make a side buck. See Lee Baca of LA racking in the bucks for CCW permits to campaign donors, cops in NY selling guns out of the armory, etc. The only losers are the residents, and they don’t matter in the scheme of things, no?

    Sometimes you can see all Three Categories on the same stage, at the same time.The last group of Opportunists are hard to see because they’re behind the camera. Those media mavens who use gun control as a career prop have no problem selling the entire Constitution down the river for a promotion or a Pulitzer.

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  24. “The Supreme Court and all inferior courts shall make no decision which interprets the Constitution so as to touch, limit, regulate, or control, the individual right to own and carry any firearm.”

    This is clearly not written by a lawyer. The Supreme Court has the ability to decide which things are constitutional and which are not – putting such a limitation into the constitution basically does nothing, as they can rule their own actions constitutional regardless.

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  25. For hundreds of years until most recent history, the Democrat Party in Louisiana was the ruling and for all intents and purposes the only party. Democrats fought Democrats for political office. We had the “best politics money could buy.” Democrat mayors accepted bribes, as did governors. New Orleans mayor just convicted, Louisiana governor convicted and spent a stretch in Huntsville, TX. Numerous other state officials and legislators likewise were convicted and spent time in prison.

    New Orleans levee board took money designated to re-force and bolster the levees in and around New Orleans and spent millions on building up swamp land to build a casino and Jazz Land. When the disaster happened, former Congressman began to look into where the money went. Could not locate many millions. Board members now diseased.

    Democrat former mayor of Augusta, GA convicted of bribery, went to prison, got out and appealed to a Democrat governor to restore his rights so he could run a limousine company. Immediately, ran again for mayor and almost won.

    Cesspool of corruption in politics when there is a domination of one party–in this case, Democrat.

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  26. Stunning POSTER…every pro gun pol & 2A supporter should have a copy. Translated to English. I live in Cook County,Illinois. Too easy to comment on corruption LOL

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  27. My 5th grade teacher was a Civil War reenactor and a Mt. Man reenactor. When we learned about those time periods he brought his muzzle loaders and some cartridge fired revolvers into class and showed us them and allowed us to handle them. He also had us march up and down the halls in step and one of us would be the Sergeant and bark out commands. This was mid-90’s

    At the same time period, I had made a wooden replica of a Roman Gladius for a summer class, my dad helped me paint the blade with a metallic paint and polish it to a bright gleam. It looked good. While walking home from the bus drop off with it, the local cop pulled over and questioned me about my sword, I think he felt dumb when he realized it was made of wood.

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  28. It’s called the pussification of America. More likely it’s the over prescribing of “o I’m sad” drugs. Really it’s a large swath of our population who just cannot think for themselves and attach meaning to an object. You can thank every cop / csi / law & order show and people failing to understand its entertainment, not reality.

    I recently help closed a street next to a school and while videoing the improvements, was stop by two separate police jurisdictions responding to parents calls that a strange man was walking on the sidewalk videoing. The stupidity of parents thinking a man on foot was a problem and making the call to protect the neighborhood.

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  29. Betcha 10:1 it’s GC. Easiest to overlook, hard hitting and simplest issue. Sad part is perfmon or similar can id it in a heartbeat. Folks skip the simple and best practices nowadays. Too much rliance on tools doing the thinking.

    Secondarily, there probavly are spme growth issues, too. Overall alg proly is O(n^y^z) LOL

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    • Or O(J!B!T!)
      As for the Gc, is it that bad? I mean I am just a student and think that gc is somewhat inneficient, but I mean it shouldn’t be that bad? Honestly I prefer C-s elegance to java (but know the java libs better, and wish C had namespaces)

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  30. I have to admit that my first thought when this popped up on TTAG was, “Oh, great, another flood of posts on the same topic for a while.”

    Will be good to get back to TTAG regular programming, like, you know…gun reviews, gear reviews, etc.

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  31. That shows the difference between bloggers and the real journalist from decades ago prior to the net. I know flame deleted, but do not care.

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