The Truth About Guns gives Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America a great deal of coverage. More than a few commentators are unhappy about this editorial “obsession.” They’ve pointed out – as have we – that Mother Demand Action (MDA) is a sham. They have nowhere near the popular-never-mind-active support of gun rights groups. So why give the doyennes of disarmament the oxygen of publicity (as Margaret Thatcher warned journalists covering the IRA)? Doesn’t that simply raise MDA’s profile and, thus, spread their message? To paraphrase President Richard Nixon, I’m glad I asked me that question (again) . . .
Mothers Demand Action for Gun Sense in America is the single most dangerous group to gun rights in America. Don’t take my word for it. Here’s the headline from the progressives at msnbc.com: The new leaders on gun safety in 2013? Moms. Again, MDA’s pole position is not because they’re a force at the ballot box. Or on the streets. MDA’s “rallies” are so poorly attended the media must bend over backwards to avoid wide shots that reveal the organization’s stunning lack of popular support. No, MDA’s strength is pure PR.
If MDA spokeswoman and founder Shannon Watts didn’t exist, the media would have to invent her. In fact, they have. That headline tells the tale: MDA are the new leaders for “gun safety” because msnbc says so – to the point where the non-news network includes the group in their branding ads. Thousands of left-leaning publications are in their thrall, from the New York Times to the Grand Rapids Press. Thank to fawning press coverage, MDA has replaced the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence as the go-to gun control group.
Compared to the carpet bombing coverage afforded MDA by the mainstream media, The Truth About Guns’ sniping at MDA has a relatively minor impact. But we’re not without influence. As Nick’s quarterly traffic report reveals, The Truth About Guns garners more than 1.6m unique readers per month. Equally, we’re a blog. We can return to stories again and again, keeping salient facts at the fore, introducing new ones as they arise. Generally, we can prove a point by [let’s face it] endless repetition.
I know our MDA coverage can get tiring. And no, I’m not going to trot out the old saw “if you don’t like it, don’t read it.” My justification: the number one firearms blog on the planet has a responsibility to report on the number one danger to your natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms. Just as I repeat that phrase ad infinitum, I feel obliged to report every move by MDA to disarm Americas. They dodge, we feint. They feint, we weave. But we will never waver in our commitment to counter anti-gun agitation.
That said, it’s your blog. If you want TTAG to cut down on its coverage of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, if you think we’ve gone overboard, we’ll dial it back, But before you provide feedback below, let me say this about that: it’s not good enough to be for gun rights. It’s not good enough to be against gun control. If you want to defend your gun rights, you must know what your enemy is doing. As Thomas Jefferson said, eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. We’re good with that, MDA-wise. Are you?
Its okay the hate keeps me warm
I know how you feel. In my case, the science of gun use is so clearly on our side–by a mile–that I worry that I will have a stroke over the total abandonment of scientific, logical, critical thinking about guns in society. If they really wanted a safer world, they would embrace the science and take solace in the fact that crimes involving guns are down to less than half of what they were in the ’70’s. They would be thrilled that since Columbine, the number of attempted school shootings have plummeted because school staff and students are willing to speak up when they hear about a credible threat. No, instead, it is abundantly clear–they really do just want our guns. In their book, “Armed”, Gary Kleck and Don Kates essentially came to the same conclusion.
Oh, by the way, as a Californian, as of today, if I guy another shotgun or rifle, I have to register it. The very thing we were assured would not happen, is here. I don’t know whether to cry or just drink heavily. Where did I leave my Scotch?
Maybe you should do what I did 14 years ago. Move north a few hundred miles.
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I vote NO publicity let this sham collapse under it’s own weight
The sham will not collapse on its own, because MAIG, CNN and MSNBC dont want to let it.
Correct. It’s a self-fulfilling myth. With BIG money behind it.
they (msnbc, cnn have no more creditability with the media world anymore look at there ratings almost basement levels let them blab all they want a very few are listening
I’ve not said anything about this until now.
Here’s what I believe the TTAG should do, and Dirk showed us the way, as well as some others:
Follow the money. Follow the paper. Follow the DNS records, the web site IP address(es), the whole deal. Expose them for the frauds they are. Don’t bother debating them. Don’t get into an argument about their illogic. Lay bare their fraud and expose them.
go forth my son. you have learned well.
THIS
Im going to agree that TTAG should keep up with the MDA coverage. The only way to counter disinformation is with actual information. To ignore something with as much money behind it as MDA, is not going to make it go away.
I also agree that TTAG should go on the offensive and start digging deeper. Sipsey Street broke F&F. The conservative Tree house basically got Zimmerman off and a exposed a whole lot of corruption in the process. TTAG should be doing more investigative work, and the AI should be supporting those efforts. Crowd Sourced research into the anti gun people would be very informative, and feared. I say time to play some offense.
Also a review of the PPQ M2 would be nice.
Keep on exposing their mistruths and expose the sham behind the curtain at MDA!
You beat me to it, Dyspeptic. I was about to write “It’s fine with me if you cover MDA, as long as every reference to Shannon Watts begins…’Shannon Watts, who claims to be acting as a concerned mother, but who is actually a full-time PR professional recently hired to the cause with Bloomberg’s money, says….’ “
This is the only strategy that will work. Continuing as you have been, just reporting and debunking their bullshit press releases and publicity stunts doesn’t do us any good. You’re preaching to the choir here when you do that, so the only purpose it serves outside of TTAG is to give the MDA stories that you link to on other sites more hits. Thus perpetuating the myth that they’re a popular group to the owners of those sites, encouraging more coverage.
If you’re going to cover these twits, then do as DG says: expose them. Dig up dirt on them. Ignore their distracting antics and find their Achilles’ heel. If you’re not going to do that, I say ignore them, because the current strategy of refuting them as if they’re a for-real grassrooots movement with enough membership to matter doesn’t seem to be helping us much.
agree 100%
“the number one firearms blog on the planet has a responsibility to report on the number one danger to your natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms.”
This sums up my sentiments perfectly.
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I wouldn’t mind a little cutback myself.
Although, on the other hand, I wouldn’t if you went on the offensive a little bit more often against them. The image above is a good example of how you could go against them: The assault weapon on the right already banned from America’s schools thanks to the “Gun Free School Zone Act”, and how their support of GFSZs have led to the slaughter at Sandy Hook.
But that’s just one man’s opinion.
When you’re giving the enemy the majority of their PR, you’re doing something wrong. Save it for Bloomie.
“When you’re giving the enemy the majority of their PR…”
The MSM’s doing that. TTAG isn’t.
I don’t think TTAG is empowering MDA. The great majority of people who read this blog aren’t likely to be convinced of MDA’s viewpoint, quite the opposite. Plus it’s good to know what the opposition is up to.
Agree. I actually enjoy the brief posts covering an MDA ‘really’ attended by, oh, eleven people.
“Follow the money.”
MDA “rally.” Laugh.
I dont really honestly think that the TTAG coverage is for anyone but us. CNN, MSNBC, HuffPo and any other long string of horrid awful publications not fit for “doo doo paper” are the coverage that continually gives Moms Demand Disarmament steam, at least IMHO.
My only real beef is that Shannon Watts makes me want to take a dremel to the inner bits of my skull when I occasionally look at her.
On a side note, DAMN these rooms to go ads and the fact that they are auto playing when I open an article up in a new tab.
It’s always good to know what they’re doing and saying. It helps us counter their argument when we our entertaining our friends’ ears. Perhaps some of us just need the right amount of anger and prodding move into our own action.
Maybe 2014 can have an increased attention on the “hows.”
How can we counter their slogans and publicity.
How can we best spread our own TRUTH about guns.
How can we start our own grassroots, slogans, whatevers.
How can we get more involved.
Reading about the other side, getting angered, and doing nothing….does nothing. Let us all take steps to not only inform one another, but to motivate one another.
TTAG writers, can you use more of the strategy of “think globally, act locally?” You have a national audience. Continue to direct your readers to state/local forums and clubs.
I think this is a really good point. It’s not enough to see them and sit and stew. As the King said, “A little less conversation, a little more action.” More coverage on how to shoot these buzzards down (figuratively speaking of course) would be greatly helpful.
And I do have some tips for you all. Not enough for a full article but some pieces of advice.
First thing you need to do is open a few books and start reading. To properly dissect and destroy their argument you need to know how it’s built. The first book you need to read is Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”. This book is THE consummate statist playbook. It explains how they do EVERYTHING. How they frame arguments, how they set up debate, how they rig the game in their favor. Once you know how they’re doing it, you can figure out how to counteract it. You can figure out how to sidestep their arguments, spot false dichotomy and the other logical fallacies and pinpoint when they’re using bad information to convince the low-information types that they’re right and we’re wrong.
The second book you all should read is a much longer and more difficult one. Sun Tzu’s “Art of War”. Contrary to popular belief the book is not all about military strategy. It is a philosophy and a way of life. Get through THIS one and apply the lessons it teaches you and you’ll find arguing and debating with people becomes a whole lot easier.
While it disgusts me to read anything about them, I believe we should know what they’re up to. If it wasn’t for this site I would not know they existed. We must remain vigilant and remember very important elections are coming soon. Gun right advocates may not get the press from the MSM but we can/will send a message in the polls.
Bloomberg and other fascists like Cuomo are the true threat to the Constitution. Do not exaggerate the truth.
i just want to know one thing about shannon: does the carpet match the drapes?
My guess, hard wood floor…
“Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.”
Right?
I can’t draw any major conclusions about the case except this, that the judge knows his ruling will be appealed. SCOTUS needs, at this point, a variety of case to consolidate, so that it can clear the air. The AR simply is the contemporary musket, Winchester ’73, or M1 carbine. I will be astounded to read SCOTUS holding otherwise. I expect magazine limitations to be the most likely approved state restriction, at 30 rounds.
As for writing “studies and data show that assault weapons are often used to devastating effect in mass shootings,” he simple erred. They are are very rarely used in mass shootings, but to devastating effect when they are, just as pistols are very rarely used in mass shootings, but to devastating effect when they are so used. The same can be said for ammonium nitrate bombs. Obviously.
I know this is off topic, but there is a folly in the MDA ad presented at the top. The ad states “We keep little red riding hood out of schools because of the bottle of wine in the basket, why not assault weapons?”
First off, when little red riding hood was banned from school, it is not prevent private citizens from owning, purchasing, reading or transferring copies of the book for lawful purposes. It also did not prevent publishers from making new copies of it.
Secondly, it implies that today, so called assault weapons are not banned from schools. This is also false because last time I check, the gun free zone laws were still in effect.
Bottom line, they are using false logic in their example promote their agenda.
I just want some more good news, something cheerful to offset all the heartburn I get from reading about First, Second, and Fourth amendment violations.
How about for every MDA article we get a review of a firearm? I’d love to see an article on the S&W classic line 586 or a good look at the Primary Arms micro red dot and 3x magnifier.
My opinion is, as always, worth exactly what you paid.
So long as you’re ridiculing them, sure.
As for mass murdering scumbags, HELL NO. Don’t feed the fame of becoming a glory killer. Let’s not make their names or faces notably or memorable. Let them die away.
John
Gun shows are a good place for single moms looking for action to find good, single guys. Whether said guys will give them action, well, that’s to be determined.
I normally hunt for single moms in the produce section of Publix, but I wouldn’t mind running into more of them at gun shows.
On the one hand, we should avoid feeding the fire they’ve got under them. On the other, we DO need to keep tabs on what they’re doing.
My suggestion, take it for what it’s worth–Keep your eyes on them, let us know if they do something really big or really stupid, but maybe let the more minor stuff slide.
Perhaps we could do some research to find out if there are any “Moms against gun control” type groups out there and give them some exposure as well. Some of these are not specifically moms but groups like Babes with Bullets, Armed Females of America, A Girl and a Gun, Women Against Gun Control (yep, that’s right), Mothers Arms, The Well Armed Woman, and Second Amendment Sisters deserve a little coverage too.
Excellent idea! I had no clue these groups even existed until now. I can cite them in my letters to my legislugs.
I began reading A Girl and Her Gun from the time I discovered it until she stopped writing in late September of 2013. AGirl’s story of her journey from being a victim to being a non-victim is extremely compelling and should be mandatory reading for all ladies, in particular those who believe it won’t happen to them. Fortunately her blog and story are still up as of a few minutes ago. I would encourage everyone to go read it.
http://www.agirlandhergun.org/
I don’t want to see it cut back. We need to he aware of what MDA is doing and we need to motivate gun folk.
It may annoy some people , but I think the “community intel” outweighs the annoyance.
We need to follow what MDA is doing. Plugging our ears isn’t going to make them go away, and reporting on what they do is not enabling them.
They aren’t getting “publicity” here with anyone who wishes to strengthen their movement , but we are making people aware of their maneuvers and mechanations.
Some folks are annoyed, but I think it’s important that we keep track of their latest moves.
The entire argument that TTAG and other pro-gun blogs give
the MDA to much coverage is predicated on the saying “any
news is good news”. As long as we stay vigil in exposing their
fallacious reasoning and presenting logical, researched
counter points (supported by REAL sources) I believe we will
win the day.
On another note, after looking at the MDA’s ad above my first
thought had nothing to do with firearms but with books and
knowledge. It seems that if these “moms” were half as pro-active
about their children’s education as they were about removing
liberty public schools might not suck so bad.
Does anybody know which schools banned the book pictured?
It’d be awesome if those that banned it could be linked to the
MDA or other anti-rights organization.
Soap box: Nope.
Ballot Box: Nope
Jury Box: One denied Writ of Certiorari away from Nope.
Cartridge Box:
Sun Tzu counselled to know more about your adversary than about yourself. The best way we as a group can do this efficiently is to let RF hit the link and then tell us what he found. But I don’t think it’s wise to include the link here; that just provides gratuitous hits for the coven.
And if their screeds upset you, go out and shoot something.
It doesn’t bother me, I enjoy keeping up with the other side of isle, however trivial, or idiotic.
Baretta Cheetah 380. 13 rounds, excellent ergonomics, decockable, always goes bang, never any failures.
Shannon’s just a PR prostitute that performs particular acts for a particular fee. She doesn’t believe in anything but the color of money and the glory of the propaganda profession. Make that point every time you mention her.
The ethics of every professionalized field practiced in the US today has been reduced to Gunslinger. They start out preaching ethics, but the next thing you know they’re lobbying for special legislative protection and claiming that ethics requires them to make a lot more money because it’s easier to be honest if you’re rich. Then they get rich and we find it only makes them focus more on money and the sale. Next, they start claiming they aren’t responsible for the evil intentions or behavior of their client, because they’re just doing their job, which is the modern version of “just following orders.” That goes for the LEO enforcing a law he believes is wrong on his way to meeting a quota. That goes for a lawyer making an argument he knows to be false. That goes for a surgeon charging twice market price if he thinks he can take an uninsured woman’s house without bad publicity.
You’d think this would be a plus for our side if we were actually the “Wild West” advocates they claim we are. Somebody should be running a Cowboy Action Shooting camp catering solely to the corporate elite… “The True Professional: How to Buy Off the Governor, Eliminate Your Rival, and Take Home the Loot, Tombstone Edition.”
When they’re done with their monument to whatever, it will be disassembled and thrown in the trash where it should have gone to begin with.
There is only one way to beat the gun control crowd. We have to use their psychology against them.
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/how-to-debate-liberals-on-gun-control-and-the-assault-weapons-ban/
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/a-tale-of-two-gun-control-debates-and-rush-limbaughs-low-information-voter/
I vote that you keep mentioning their insane shenanigans, but quit linking to it. I want to know, but I don’t want to be tempted to give their sites or stories traffic.
19 of the top 25 are gun/gear reviews, and no MDA or MAIG stories there at all. Hint, hint…
Though my carping may not give that impression, I do think you guys are really doing an amazing job. Keep it up (but stay focused: more guns, less astroturf anti-gun groups)!
Perhaps Moms Deserve Anti-Gun Mayors should be relegated to Matt in FL’s daily round-up section? As a footnote.
The caption reads “We keep little red riding hood out of schools because of the bottle of wine in her basket. Why not assault weapons?”
Who said AR-15s should be in schools? I don’t think anybody has suggested that the school library should keep a copy of an AR-15 to check out. And we all know that the only thing stopping Little Red Riding Hood from being in schools is the sign on the front door. Maybe we should issue the principle a book on guns to protect children from an invasion of little red riding hood books.
MDA is a bunch of dumbass c**** if they actually believe this crap. And those who are swayed are a sheep. You’ll forgive me if I decline to fall in step with pussified bitches walking headlong into tyranny. If you feel threatened by my guns, get your own gun. Who knows, you might even like it! I don’t mandate that you MUST iwb a firearm. How can you mandate that I MUST NOT?
Freedom is ugly. Freedom is imperfect. Freedom will not prevent crime, only tyranny can do those things. But tyranny prevents everything else.
I fully support MDA’s campaign to bring Red Riding Hood, dodge ball and Kinder chocolate eggs back to school.
Shows how brain dead and moronic the VPC is.
I despise the message of the PSA: “for the children, we’ve crapped on the First Amendment. Why won’t you let us move on to the Second?”
Interesting test! A part of me is thinking, “Good grief, don’t let an Anti-2A see that video, what with all of the talk of ‘exploding bullets’ and ‘shrapnel.'” On the other hand…I pity the fool who is shot with this in a self-defense situation. The aggressor could have saved himself a metric crap-ton of pain if he’d just behaved.
I wonder what this kind of round would do if it hits sheetrock, a building stud, or mortar work. You know, anything other than a bad guy that might get hit in a self-defense scenario.
Please cut back. I’ll acknowledge the validity of some counter-coverage to MDA, but I want to read a firearms blog, not campaign-like postings all the time.
Noticeably absent from your analysis was any realistic assessment of your ability to draw the gun quickly and get accurate hits. Sadly it’s a common failure of people trying to figure out what gun to carry. The point of carrying is to be prepared for that situation where you might actually need to draw and fire and get accurate hits to survive. Accurate hits means something in the A-zone of an IPSC target or the 0-ring of an IDPA target, not “anywhere on a B-27”, and “fast enough” means the ability to draw and fire 3 shots in 3 seconds or less.
Similarly, paranoia about printing and fear of having someone notice you are carrying drives people to carry tiny little guns in tiny little calibers. It’s possible to comfortably carry a Kahr CM9/PM9 or an M&P Shield 9mm in the front pocket of khakis, with a good quality pocket holster, and go unnoticed in the typical business casual environment, and possible to carry a Glock 19-sized pistol in an IWB holster with any reasonable cover garment.
Better watch those speakers I installed in those” secret compartments” so the cop can LIE thru his teeth it evade fourth Amendment Rights.
I have 2 boxes of this, one full 30rd magazine and 10+ 20 generic 5.56 for home defense for use in a Tavor. To me it’s worth having the more expensive ammo for a home defense situation. I still need to get another box of it for some practice at the range, its a little hard to get in GA, luckily I found it on the shelf at a sporting goods store in Texas.
“Cherish your enemies for they teach you the best lessons.” — Ho Chi Minh.
The founding fathers intended freedom of speech so that all ideas could be exchanged, knowing that some are questionable. They intended for Americans to be educated and knowledgeable about the particular topics being discussed, in this open environment ideas were intended to flourish or die based on merit. I know the MDA is short on fact, substance or constitutional footing, but we must be aware of what is being said and how facts are being distorted. As the quote from “Hellboy” “In Absentia Luci, Tenebrae Vincunt”, Latin for “In the Absence of Light, Darkness Prevails”.
KelTec-America’s Vaporware Experts!
George Kellgren got burned pretty badly in the past due to borrowed money. As a result, he will not borrow money to expand Kel-tec operations, instead doing so only through cash-flow. Ok, I can respect that.
I wish he’d at least consider some licensing options or subcontracting though.
Great work.
Now if we can just get those pesky auto play ads to not auto play, or occasionally freak out my computer causing the Windows Internet Explorer to crash. Seems to come in spurts, nothing for weeks then several times in one or two days.
keep your friends close and your enemies closer. if you don’t post about them, we won’t know what they’re up to.
I think the kid has too much time on his hands….
I cannot get past Kel-Tec = Thug. First Kel-Tec I ever saw was at a public range being shot by two guys that looked kinda on the Slim Shady side. They may be good guns but got bad PR.
What happened to the 9 mm tests? I am looking forward to the test of the PDX1. They run great in my .45, some bad reviews notwithstanding, and (if and when I can find any) I’d like some for my EDC. Currently I have critical duty–only because there was NOTHING else on the shelves, or that which is, is WAAAY overpriced (e.g., hydroshocks for $1.50 a piece).
9mms tests are still being conducted and PDX1 is one of the next ones that will be posted. Got some gold dots, rangers, golden sabers, all sorts of 9mms tests due soon.
I been to their factory in Fl. they have no room to grow, They would have to move to step up production. I do see a few at gun shows but not many…..As for the Kel Tec management all I can say is they could use more marketing skills……….
No. If they could they would shut TTAG down. So don’t give them anything but the ridicule they deserve.
I know this is gonna piss off a lot of people but, having lived in Syracuse for 17 years, I learned long ago that the downstaters are generally stupid. This proves it.
This type of argument is taking place everywhere these days…
I remember back in the ’60s ‘scientists’ said that each deer needed 700 acres of wilderness to live and due to human expansion that deer would be extinct by 1980!
I seem to recall this question coming up about a month and a half ago, most of the answers being to the effect of “I never hear about this group except here” and the majority saying that we shouldn’t give these dingbats any publicity.
So for about a week they got none, but they’ve erupted in TTAG again, and you are asking the question again.
What is it with the mafia-riddled states (NY, NY, CT, RI) being the ones toughest on guns? It reminds me of the anti-pornography legislation, against which the mob hired lobbyists, and the anti-drug-war legislation which the mob decried.
One day New Jersey voters are going to wake up and realize they’ve actually lived the nightmare, the one in which they go to school and don’t realize until they’re there that they forgot to put their pants on. That’s how foolish it looks. The mob gets guns and the rackets. The cops get guns and extortion-level pay. And they both tell Joe Citizen and the politicians to shut up and stay out of their way. Nice.
These bid requests and responses would be open to FOIA as well as all communications with MDA, the good Rabbi etc.
Wait until the bidding process is closed, then FOIA all the docs, and communications. including all communications with outside entities surrounding the bidding process.
Find out what and how the manufacturers responded, and out them publicly if needed.
Why not make it open to the public to hunt the 2-3k deer, Give away tags instead of charging the exorbitant fees and feed a few families. What are the feds going to do with 2-3k deer carcasses? What a waste of perfectly good meat! I travel upstate to hunt and last year I paid $140 for a permit for deer season (with no doe tags). Why not make it more affordable and maybe attract some hunters to come take care of the problem and add tourist money to the economy during a time that tourists aren’t running out to Long Island.
I’m sure the Fed marksmen are going to only shoot “downward to minimize danger” The Fast and Furious Feds really minimized danger!
‘Keep your friends close and you enemies closer’.
Without the exposure of their nonsense we may become complacent and think we have “won” so please keep bringing us their idiocy and expose them for the kumbaya’ers they are.
How about another scenario – 0100, guy is walking by himself by a hospital with a pistol drawn, but isn’t actually threatening anybody. I still thought it was a bit suspicious, so I called it in. They didn’t find him, but I don’t think that is appropriate behavior. Should I have reacted differently? Had it been in a holster, I wouldn’t have batted an eye.
Should we wait for this like we did the 300blk SU16 variant?
Kinda met with the same reception too. I think I’m with Chad on this one. Keltec can kiss my ass. I have money to spend on rifles I can actually find, not one I won’t and if I do, get my wallet raped for it.
Should we wait for this like we did the 300blk SU16 variant?
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/foghorn/new-from-kel-tec-su-16-in-300-blk/
Kinda met with the same reception too. I think I’m with Chad on this one. Keltec can kiss my ass. I have money to spend on rifles I can actually find, not one I won’t and if I do, get my wallet raped for it.
The dispatcher was fine with the caller, but then she set up the negative LEO contact with her “suspicious person” description.
good info, i cant stand when someone uses the term m4gery…..an m4 is an m4, whether its auto or not, it may not be a m4a1, but its a m4, noone calls the semi auto thompsons i see ppl with all the time thompson4gerys or 1911s 19114gerys….come on
(Check with your lawyer before commenting on penetration, no, not that penetration). I have friends and relatives that own one flavor of AR, or other. My only real experience with one was back in ’65’, in a real bad neighborhood. These days I am sticking to my 12 gauge shotgun and .380 lil dog for home defense, if I need an AR I’ll pick one up somewhere.
This graphic is demonstrative of exactly how twisted these enemies of liberty actually are.
NOTE: Rich, I said LIBERTY! Your campaign, if it is that, NEEDS me.
The slide being on the inside allows it to be smaller in proportion to the frame, reducing mass in proportion to the the barrel caliber without sacrificing rigidity. Reduced slide mass also reduces torsion. An inset slide allows more than enough room for contact surfaces. It also allows for better ergonomics.
“If you want to defend your gun rights, you must know what your enemy is doing.”
A MUST, and, if you’re a Facebook type, I would recommend following any links that RF and the crew here at TTAG post, copy them into your status updates and lambast them in the comments.
As much as I enjoy TTAG and the tips it gives, I think it gives more credibility in social media to appear to have “stumbled upon” the stupid fncking NYtimes and Huffpo agit-prop articles, then beat the heck out of it.
When asked for comments, officers Holmstrom and Giles said “What!?!”
Welcome to Texas.
I’m still using a Bushnell TRS-25. Cost me like $80 and is doing just fine. I’ve since moved it from the AK to a KSG, so we’ll see how that turns out.
<sigh>
Dear Dick,
You clearly do not understand logic or the Constitution or both.
Freedom of Speech is regulated: you cannot falsely and deliberately shout “Fire!” in a crowded theater.
As RF has posted multiple times: 1) that ruling has been modified since; 2) the criminal prosecution isn’t for the utterance of the word ‘fire’, it’s for the damage and harm that the ensuing panic causes.
Freedom of Religion is regulated: a church cannot practice human sacrifice.
This one is a perfect straw man for gun regulations. It’s perfectly legal for a congregation to gather, without filling out a 4473 form, registering with the state, paying a $200 tax stamp to the BATRE, etc. But if they try to commit murder, kidnapping, etc., then we, as a society, step in to prevent it. I think we should regulate guns exactly the same way.
Freedom of Assembly is regulated: people who don’t like you can’t gather an anti-you demonstration on your front lawn without your permission.
Another perfect straw man. Alice’s rights to assemble and speak her mind don’t supersede Bob’s property rights. We should regulate guns exactly the same way: Alice can’t carry a gun onto Bob’s property, without Bob’s consent, either implied or explicit.
And it is illegal for convicted felons or the clinically insane to keep and bear arms.
Again, I say we regulate firearms, exactly the same way, because these people have not been “deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”, they get trials.
As for the whole “well regulated militia” part. As anyone who’s bothered to read anything about the revolutionary era knows, regulated meant “make regular”, i.e. conform to standards. But hey, if you want to be a pedantic Dick, the regulation only applies to the militia, which you sort of people think means the national guard. I’m not in the national guard, so you can’t regulate me.
As for the part that mentions the people:
in·fringe [in-frinj]
verb (used with object), in·fringed, in·fring·ing.
1.
to commit a breach or infraction of; violate or transgress: to infringe a copyright; to infringe a rule.
verb (used without object), in·fringed, in·fring·ing.
2.
to encroach or trespass (usually followed by on or upon): Don’t infringe on his privacy.
I think saying, “you can’t do X” or even “you can’t do X without Y” is an infringement.
Of course, what is fundamentally wrong with your Dickish reading of the Constitution, is that you seem to think we only have the rights expressly mentioned in the Bill of Rights, and that government can do what ever it wants otherwise. That is exactly wrong. The government has the expressly mentioned powers in Article 1, and, as the 9th and 10th Amendments clearly state, every other right belongs to the people and states. So the government lacks any authority to control firearms.
And finally, the most telling indicator of what sort of power the Framers thought the federal government had to restrict firearm ownership: how many laws did they pass that did so? The only antebellum firearms laws I’m aware of are requirements to own or carry a firearm in certain circumstances, and the restrictions on slaves or freedmen owning firearms (further evidence that gun control is used by the establishment to facilitate in oppression).
“Mobley cooperated with police, and after being held for a number of hours and giving a statement was released without being charged. Subsequently, a different investigator was assigned the case, and Mobley was arrested and charged with two counts of murder.”
Figures. This is the kind of crap that happens… you get an officer that KNOWS the law, and doesn’t want to step in the shit. Then someone up the chain- who won’t do it themselves, mind you- decides to find someone who will come up with the ‘right’ answer.
The idea that a court could consider ‘warning shots’ as an element necessary before a good shot is so laughable that I wish the judge could just be removed for obvious incompetence.