“Here is a partial list of the agencies that were involved in Friday’s manhunt,” Rich Abdill at wonkette.com writes. “The Boston PD, the Watertown PD, the ATF, MIT Police, the New Bedford PD, the FAA, the Massachusetts State Police, the FBI (and its Gang Task Force), the UMass Dartmouth Department of Public Safety, the State Committee for National Security of Kyrgyzstan, the Connecticut State Police, the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security, the MBTA Transit Police, and the Cape Cod Regional Law Enforcement Council SWAT Team . . .” Not including the Massachusetts State Police and National Guard, the CIA and where the hell was the DHS and their billion bullets? Or don’t I want to know. Anyway, too much?
I can see background check on spray paint, pool supply, kitchen appliance, auto parts, soda can… I can see a long line at lowes becuz they sell alot of stuff that can make a weapon, hmmmm. I got idea, how about ban human then we won’t have this problem. Cuz this is not new, it’s been going around since idk? Kain and able? If u not religion type person, well let just go back to 6000 years. I just don’t think they r stupid enough to think banning or restrict things will keep criminal to stop doing what they do best.
And the disarmed crowds roared approval as the State took over the streets and entered their homes without warrants.
Can you point to a single case where cops entered a home without either a warrant or an invitation, or are you talking out of your Jim Carrey?
This MIGHT be one:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2be_1366536241
Might also be probable cause. So, who knows?
There was a article yesterday with a video a SWAT home invasion happening. Jesus christ Ralph, I know i’m not the only one who pointed this out to you.
Ralph, take a stroll around YouTube. There are plenty of videos uploaded from terrified neighbors of illegal search victims (who were probably illegally searched themselves shortly after). They show the police pounding on doors, then when the door is answered shoving guns in their faces and forcing them out of their him before searching the house and forcing all others out into the street. After being confirmed to NOT be the bomber, they were then illegally searched by officers on the street.
Sorry, but it pisses me off that people are still buying the “it was voluntary!” lie told by the police.
Way too much!
And all that man power and they didn’t even find him, a civilian did. Wonder what all that cost tax payers….
Notice how reluctant the media is to mention the citizen who found the guy. But over and over they show the thermal image of the bomber in the boat while stating: “This is the image from equipment that allowed police to locate the suspect.” It’s so important to push the need for a militarized police force and spending on tactical toys, that we don’t want to dilute the agenda by reporting that a citizen saw something suspicious, checked and confirmed it, then reported it.
In appreciation for his tip, LE pumped a couple bursts from M4s into the boat (missing the perp), threw in 10 flashbangs (damn boat wouldnt ignite) then rammed the boat with a tank (that oughtta show em.)
When little Melvin fell out of the boat LE clapped themselves on the back, and took all the credit while Harry the Hapless Homeowner wonders if his crappy insurance will pay for his prized boat which is now the Gilligan Express.
Seems to me the man would not have been on the run and hiding out had he not been being pursued so it stands to reason a civilian found him only because he was being hunted by law enforcement.
Some tend to put the government and law enforcement down until they need the government and law enforcement.
Voice: please pontificate on why bomber boys were existing within our wonderful country to begin with.
Registered Democrats and muslims?
Kyrgyzstan why???
All those forces…and the suspect was found by a dude checking on his boat…
Not that I condone throwing out the 4th amendment, but having been subject to a house to house search before I have to ask…has anyone heard of anyone being forced to succumb to the search? Because in my experience, they didn’t enter any homes where noone was home, and asked, rather politely in my case, if they could enter the home.
I think this might’ve been the case in Watertown as well (although I don’t know for sure). I saw many clips on the news of cops knocking on doors, someone answering, a brief conversation, and the cops walking away. So, as far as peoples’ homes, it appeared the homeowners needed to give consent. The searching of other parts of one’s property and outbuildings, on the other hand, was most certainly violated.
I’m just glad these guys turned out to be immigrants so we could make sweeping and largely unfounded generalizations that support our political beliefs. That’s GOP classy!
They’re all seeking to justify their existence.
Sooner or later, the taxpayers’ pockets will run dry (like, oh, right about now, what with trillion dollar deficits) and the budget axe will start falling.
Let’s face it: Being in federal law enforcement is, by and large, a pretty cushy job. Pretty good pay, great bennies, don’t have to do much work, you get lots of toys after the military is done with them, get to play running-jumping-squeeking-shooting games on a regular basis, dress up like a bad-ass ninja (without having to do the PT necessary to actually be a bad-ass ninja) and when you screw up, no one calls you to account or (better yet) you get promoted into management (eg, look at Jamie Gorelick) and you get a pretty fat jump in pay. Heck, if you screw up enough, you might get a gig at one of the various Beltway Bandit consultant shops… or get a really plush gig at Fannie or Freddie.
So if you were seeing this “sequestration” not cause taxpayers to scream and shout about the “cuts” in federal productivity, you’d be getting pretty nervous to justify your job… and get in on the latest hot case too.
This pretty much sums up that side of the whole deal, also.
What does “involved” mean. I mean, just saying these agencies were involved in the manhunt doesn’t necessarily mean that they had a major part to play. Perhaps something as simple as increasing staffing or coordinating information.
If the requirements for being involved in the manhunt are rather minimal, I wouldn’t be surprised to see that many agencies in a search like this.
It is kind of a shame that we NEED ‘test cases’ in order to protect the Bill of Rights. It shouldn’t be necessary.
LS,
I agree. Ever since Sandy Hook and the emotionally-charged screeching that followed, I often wondered, “Wait a minute…why in the hell am I, or any of us, having to defend The Second Amendment? Has it come to this?”
Apparently it has.
Overkill? Not in my book.
Those boys effed with Boston.
They bombed the Boston Marathon.
They killed two women and an eight year old boy. And they severely injured scores more.
They shot one cop and killed another.
They chose to commit a terrorist act in a post 9/11 world. How stupid is that.
Did I mention they effed with Boston.
It wasn’t overkill at all.
Exactly… I know hating the government is the thing to do on this site, but they killed one and captured the other alive. From what I can gather they didn’t force there way into anyone’s house, on the police scanner they were instructed to check front and back yards of all homes, not kick in some poor guys door. I have no problem with the response even though one skinny prick made them look like fools for 24 hours.
So what you’re saying is there was no other way to catch these guys, but to shut down an entire city and the surrounding suburbs for a day while bringing in thousands of law enforcement officers. I think, at the end of the day the gov continued to “eff” with Boston by doing what it did. Hypothetically, what will they do if they find they were just two out of a larger terrorist network? Are they going to shut down the entire northeast and declare martial law?
total overkill. They have given the terrorists a roadmap how to shut down the entire country.
This… The manhunt did more damage to the country than the bomb did. From a productivity loss standpoint the bombing was a bad car pileup. The manhunt shut down a major metro area for a week. Great job guys… Had the brothers tried this garbage in a free state, the Feds would have only had to send out a small forensics team to tag the bodies. Open season on terrorists bag limit of 2.
Well, it appears everybody was “terrified”. Mission accomplished.
Where was DHS? Monitoring evangelicals, veterans, those in favor of smaller government, pro 2A people and other critical threats to America.
DHS is broken and needs euthanized so as to not divert attention and resources from real threats.
DHS-ostensibly Department of Homeland Security. In actuality Department for Harassment Specialties…….
“Too much”?
How about, “too friggin’ LATE”?
How about, “why do we hand out green cards like candy to people who hate us, when we already have 15 million Americans out of work”?
That’s combined, right?
Yes, and the new norm. It was post Katrina on steroids. Including the new/old method of house to house warrantless searches (again).
Considering how much trouble this man caused?
No. Not overkill. Though it is kinda sad that all these government agencies couldn’t find their asses with both hands and a periscope…
Yes, and the new norm. It was post Katrina on steroids. Including the new/old method of house to house warrantless searches (again).
Gives one the warm and fuzzies doesn’t it?
You see,every terrorist incident is like a lottery for Federal agencies.With limited Federal budgets going to “the hardest working” agency,the operation who nails a bad guy gets to gloat at the next Senate Budget Committee hearing,
Since you can’t win if you don’t show up,as soon as a bad guy pops up the Feds are all but tripping over each other like bounty hunters.Don’t be surprised if it turns out the Post Office PD sent officers on this manhunt-cant let the chance for agency wide glory get away.
I think this video applies more now then ever before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp069Y_P-9M
Vanderboegh better be careful or he’ll find himself alone in his fight. Now, I’m sure many gun-owners would donate a few dollars to his legal defense fund, but the vast majority are “law-abiding” to a fault.
Fight for Liberty!? IN THE COURTS
Resist Tyranny!? WRITE CONGRESS
Break the Law!? NEVER – IT’S SACRED
You’ve apparently lost your mind.
When your government tramples it’s founding rules, there is no longer any reason to obey it.
The time to fight back is near.
I will not be complicit in the destruction of the Founder’s Republic.
I took the Oath in 1969 and live by it.
III/0317
Never mind how many .50 cals have been used in a crime in NJ or elsewhere, how many are even in NJ? Cost being the biggest factor for ownership AND use, only a hand full of people can afford them to begin with. I would doubt that an FFL would even keep one in stock just in case. It’s likely considered a special order item for all but the biggest of shops.
Wow… Where do I even start?
How many constitutional amendments is this school intent on violating?
As many as it takes till you learn your place comrade.
I support legal immigration. Is our current system broke? Yes. Will it get fixed? No. Dems rely on extorting the illegals and their legal family members for support and GOP relies on the cheap and unprotected labor. Win-win for all but America.
feels like the whole bill of rights is under assault.
He WILL win on First Amendment grounds.
But the girls can wear those skimpy form fitting clothes like that does not deter the educational process.
Yoga pants would have completely negated my high school educational experience, if they’d been around. As it is, they routinely make me forget my grocery list.
I think it’s fair to point out that they weren’t sure it would only be one guy, and that Chechen trained terrorists are on the very high end of the dangerous scale. I have no idea what Kyrgystan has to do with anything (beautiful country, great horses, but a long way away) but I have no problem with the large number of police being called out.
The house to house searching may have been out of line, but let’s allow the dust to settle and let the voters tell the politicians what they think of their actions once the facts are out. Martial law has a purpose, and this was pretty close to being a very good reason to impose it. We’ll see if it was justified, and if not, some politicians need to be removed.
beyond pathetic. keep it classy, West Virginia….
Damn those blacks and their extremist desire to sit at the Woolworths lunch counter.
It’d be funny the teacher who started this was a relative of Joe Manchin.
Where did they get the 7000 trigger locks?
Dream job.
It might be difficult showing up to work with an erection every day though… I think I’d manage.
It was a simple case of “GAME ON!” and bring all your cool toys.
In a 7000-gun safe. Preferably fire rated.
This is my drooly face.
Simple solution, make all the Obama youth wear the same govt approved uniform, something from the Mao or FUBU collection.
This should be more than sufficient proof to those who say that the Govt. won’t go door to door to confiscate your firearms!
This is the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen in my life and far worse than any supposed “Terrorist” attack.
I don’t know what they did to the 1911 in that screencap, but I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Refugees are SLIGHTLY higher risk because they have less reason to feel part of their host country. After all, they aren’t here because they wanted to be in the US (notionally, at least) but because they couldn’t stay where they were.
That’s about as far as there is sense in this guy’s rant.
Stop trying. The “politics and religion” rule applies primarily where family is concerned, IMO. Those relationships are more important than winning. (Which you are!) Also, FWIW, when someone’s last name is “Leghorn,” blocking out her first name does pretty much nada to shield her Facebook account from search results.
about 15% of drivers drive around without insurance, and many without registration or a valid license (in Maryland anyway, results by state differ). According to the best statistics I could find based on disenfranchised voter rolls, there are about 6 million felons … and if they all have weapons, that means about 6% of “gun owners” have guns illegally.
A law is not a magic wand. You can get Heroin and Coke on the street, as well as illegal guns, launder the money… heck drug cartels have access to full auto military weapons, and you definitely cant get that on the street. People smuggle cigs from the south to the north due to the excessive taxes in the north. For every law there is a way to circumvent it.
passing stupid laws may feel good, but in the end its just stupid. If it were that easy to cure violence, the problem would have been solved hundreds of years ago.
Your car is not a right.
Ask your Mom this, Nick: What if the Republicans were leading a nationwide push to make licenses and insurance a requirement to vote?
You’ll also note that YOUR license & YOUR registration & YOUR insurance have never prevented a single person from being maimed or killed by a drunk driver.
But that’s not the point, is it?
I’ve had this very argument many times.
1) You only need a driver’s license to drive the vehicle on a public road. You don’t need one to operate it on private property.
2) A vehicle only needs to be registered to be driven on a public road. It may be kept on private property or even transported over a public road on a flatbed or trailer without being registered (think race car).
3) You don’t need insurance in all States, I know you don’t in NH.
4) Just to throw one more in, there is no background check or even requirement to show ID to purchase a car.
So there you go.
I’ve had to educate my own mother quite a bit Nick, I feel your pain. My favorite was pulling out a Mossberg 590 and a M&P15-22 and asking which was the “assault rifle”, she identified the 15-22, I then explained how each functioned and showed her what a 12GA Slug looked like compared to .22lr, she saw the light. Patience is everything.
Logic and reality don’t often combine in the mind of a True Believer.
*More people are killed by cars than guns every year.
*More people are killed by drunk drivers than guns every year.
*More people are killed by bees than “assault weapons” every year.
*Case law clearly shows that driving a car is a privilege, not a legal right, much less a Constitutional right.
*Case law and historical study clearly show that gun ownership is a Constitutional right.
*Driving cars legally requires registration and insurance, yet how often are those laws ignored?
It would be interesting to compare the crime rate # of legal gun owners, crime rate of illegal gun owners/users, accident/death rate of legal car owners, and accident/death rate of illegal car owners. Hmmm…this could be another point piece on my website, though getting stats on the first 2 could prove difficult.
In any event, it’s tough to argue with an idiot/drunk/family member/whatever: even if you can get your point across [which is by no means assured], you probably still lost. So, I generally just keep my opinions to myself…and blog. 🙂
If you just want to win the “Why can’t we treat guns the way we do cars?” argument then you need to google up those words and the name Dave Kopel. You will find one of the most well reasoned and worded demolitions of this stupid liberal argument once and for all.
Show it to your mom. She might not change her mind one bit, but then you’ll both know that the truth and facts don’t matter at all to her. Handing her a print out of Kopel’s argument will help you avoid having to call you dear mom, who you love, an idiot. That’s important too.
“license reregistration and insurance”
Tell her this is only true if she wishes to operate it on the states roads in a nonemergency situation.
Unless you’re arguing that I should be allowed to set up my targets on the overpass it’s apples and oranges.
“Where do you keep a 7000 gun collection?”
Kinda reminds me of the old joke, “There’s a 500 lb gorilla in your living room, where does he sit?”
Funny story: In two different states I’ve had my driver’s license application held because some naughty person had a similar name (not identical, mind you, and obviously my other identifiers didn’t match) and I had to prove I wasn’t that guy. Now that just held up my DL for several weeks and was an annoying PITA. Thankfully, that hasn’t happened in all but one NICS check I’ve done (easily cleared up by comparing numbers). But what about all the ID theft lately?
What makes me nervous every time is that I’ll get falsely flagged, and I won’t just get denied. I’ll get arrested and charged with a felony (and burdened to clear myself), 2A rights denied in the meantime, especially in the current climate of fear. That doesn’t happen in driver/car licensing SNAFUs, unless you have an actual warrant out for you.
If they add DHS watchlists to the check process, you will get flagged if you have a name similar to anyone on the list or any alias they’ve used.
My question: does passing a backgroud check–even when you know you’re spotless–make anybody else nervous, or am I just being paranoid? (Oh no! I didn’t mean to say that! Now I’ll get flagged for mental health issues!)
RF, you may want to rethink the Austin move. I am sure you have done your background research and realize that Austin is the liberal “Mecca” of Texas. I just want to point out that there are plenty of other places in Texas that are like-minded with you and would welcome your residency. I favor San Antonio personally. It has a character unlike any other big city. It doesn’t feel like a big city living here. Just sayin’…….
You should come to Alaska. The people are friendly, the scenery is gorgeous, and most people own guns. You’ll be in the land of rugged individualism. It’s like the old America. You can open carry or conceal carry without permit. It’s accepted and normal. Texas is known as the gun-friendly state, but in my opinion, Alaska is friendlier.
I hope that fat ass has a stroke
I think the BS local laws with dumb inclusions helped fire up gun owners, and kill what many may be able to justify as a reasonable compromise. I know CO’s dumb local laws and the blatant disregard local officials had to my view pushed me from middle of the road to a hardcore 2A preacher.
My Taurus pt140 has earned my trust. I have put thousands of rounds through it (every kind of ammo I could find) and it has gone bang every.single.time. Shoots straight and shoots every time. All I want in a gun.
That being said, my wife cannot use it, (She carries glock 22), because the slide lock is forward of the safety. Between the stiffness of the spring and her small hand she cannot lock the slide open with her thumb. Don’t know if that would be an issue for the smallhanded on this gun, but maybe.
RF,
You might want to skip “states” altogether and move to some kind of federal land (If you want to stay in the US). If Samoa or the Virgin Islands are not your thing then a good Indian Rez could be. The culture and laws are different in these islands of freedom; where laws do exist enforcement is very lax. Getting around an entire layer of government could help – just a thought.
Have an at least ten year old Millenium PT145, after a lot of use, the trigger smoothed up nice. Ten plus 1 .45 acp, 22.5 oz empty, what’s not to like. It cost $400 back then, so this sounds pretty good, for the money.
Nice to see the left-wing press publish such good news!
An ammo shortage is the perfect time to review a Taurus. LOL.
TO: Nick Leghorn, et al.
RE: Stupid Beliefs…..
….are not removed until someone has their lives touched in the most personal manner.
From my perspective, keep an eye on ‘home invasions’ that take place close to her. Especially those that happen in her neighborhood or to a friend or relation.
Point such out to her.
As the truism goes….
A liberal is a conservative that hasn’t been ‘mugged’ by reality….yet…..
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The wise learn from other peoples’ mistakes. Most people learn from their own. Fools never learn.]
Having visited that particular part of the world at the behest of the DoD, I feel compelled to answer the question in the article: no, we don’t have a side. We don’t take sides, anymore; we have “interests”.
Soooo glad I no longer live there — would never consider going back, given its taxes, corruption, welfare pandering, union domination, ever-declining economy (caused by the items preceding it in this list). And now this.
What’s the penalty going to be for having an unregistered pressure cooker?
What a bunch of Democrat morons … but I repeat myself.
Thanks for the review. I’m shopping for a CCW gun and this might be in the lead right now (open to suggestions). I live in an extremely low crime area and it will probably spend most of the time in my truck’s console, with the safety on. I never understood the aversion to safeties, if you want it use it, if you don’t don’t. I can see why some don’t want it for carry, but then again I’ve read several anecdotal stories of LEOs getting the firearms wrestled away from them and survived because the perp couldn’t get the safety off. To each his own. Personally I’m more worried about a ND than a quick draw contest. Probably even leave it condition 3 when it’s sitting in my truck.
The price is right (I’m cheap) and it’s about the right size. I’d like something that functions as much as possible like my Beretta 92 just to avoid confusion if I ever have to use it, but I don’t seem to be having any luck finding a small, light 9mm with a flip up to fire slide mounted safety. I’m a little concerned with Taurus’ reputation for customer service, but I’m not sure better service is worth an extra $200 or $300. Unless I get a lemon, of course.
“The man removed his magazine from the gun and showed the victim it had a bullet in it, and the reinserted the magazine. The man then stated ‘I am serious.’”
That’s when the driver pulled his own gun and stated, “And I am serious about your magazine disconnect.” The state of Massachusetts agreed to pay the driver a bounty that equaled one-tenth the cost of the multitude of officers and BearCats they would have deployed had the manhunt continued.
Sorry, just a little speculative fiction there.
My dad always said “Don’t bring a BB gun to a bomb fight.”
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