The AR is America’s rifle but the shotgun remains America’s go-to home defense firearm. And why not? If there is such a thing as a one-shot man-stopper, the 12-gauge shotgun is it. While the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 continue to dominate the home defense shotgun market, today’s buyers can choose from a wide range of scatterguns, from inexpensive Turkish smooth-bores to high-end Benellis and magazine-fed Russian guns. So what’s your home defense shotgun? What caliber and which ammo do you load? If you don’t rock a shotgun to protect home and hearth, what gun do you run and why not a shotgun?
Bedside? First options are pistols. Then…
-1887 repro in 12 ga, cylinder bore
-bulk 00 buck (7 rounds)
-200 lumen flashlight riding the groove between the barrel and the mag tube, plus some action and trigger work.
I use a Mossberg 590 a1 SPX. I’ve added a bang comp safety wolf mag spring and a Knox recoil list sex position adjustable stock and put a 5 round emo holder on the right side of the stock.I added a Maaco boyfriend with try 1913 Picatinny rail system and a Streamlight TLR 1s light system with a Galco battle sling.it has a ported barrel with m9 bayonet
Your shotgun “lists sex positions”? Boy, I gotta get me one of those!
How are the sex position adjustable stock and your boyfriend getting along?
They’re currently fighting over who gets to hold the emo. Doesn’t anyone know that emos don’t like to be held?
Holy auto correct.
This post should be enshrined in the gilded hall of internet fame.
Beats hell outta any comment I’ve made on TTAG.
Nothing fancy. Simple is better in my opinion. Remington 870 Express Magnum with synthetic stock and fore end. 18.5” Cylinder bore with a bead sight. Plus 2 Remington-brand magazine extension for a total capacity of 6+1. I use either 2 ¾” 00 Buck or Slugs. One of these days I may upgrade the furniture to Magpul, but I’m not in a hurry. I do have plans to add a Velcro shell holder to the left side of the receiver.
Same here – 870 Express. I did stick a 20″ slug barrel on it and a Knoxx COPstock, but I think I’ll probably go back to a more standard stock. I don’t love the folder, and I’m not completely sold on the pistol grip.
18.5″ Mossberg 500 with wood and 5 rounds of Federal flight control 00 buck
Mossberg 500 w/ breacher barrel, Magpul stock and forend in evil infant-murdering black, surefire light on a Daniel Defense offset mount. Loaded with 4 00 Buck and 2 slugs just in case. By far my scariest (and therefore most loved) firearm.
While we get the sarcasm, it can always be taken out of context by those who aren’t POTG. Request for part of the comment to be moderated.
I don’t think comment moderation works that way, Sparky. And even if it does, it looks like your request was denied, as it well should have been; nobody likes a tattle-tale.
Anyhow, I’ve been using a Mossberg 88 that I’ve had since I was 16, with a bird’s-head pistol grip and a dinky, useless little heat shield that looked much cooler when I was a kid, loaded with Sellier & Bellot 00 buck. I may be retiring it soon, since I just got my hands on a Norinco 1897 riot model at a gun show — for $180 out the door. I’m guessing the old fella who sold it just saw “Made in China” stamped on the receiver and figured it was junk, but before I use it as my go-to shotgun, I’ll need to put a few rounds through it and make sure he didn’t actually know what he was doing when he let it go for that price.
“Request for part of the comment to be moderated.”
Holy self-appointed hall monitor, Batman!
It was a simple request. Keep calm and carry on.
Are you gonna make me spit out my gum next? Because I didn’t bring enough for everybody, and I see already that you’re a big fan of telling people what to do.
Benelli supernova tactical with….birdshot lol. I’m still in an apartment so my options are limited.
But I LOVE my scattergun. First firearm I ever bought.
Remington 870 12 gauge that I bought at a Texas pawn ship 25 years ago. I sent it to Scattergun Technologies back in the day for their FBI/SWAT treatment. They also rechambered it for 3″ shells. It has a side saddle, skeleton stock, and flashlight-equipped forearm. I have two barrels/extended magazines for it. 26″/9-shot and 18″/7-shot. I use Sellier-Bellot OO buckshot.
” those who know about it encountered the gun via the Counterstrike and/or Call Of Duty videogame franchises”
“Or, 007: The World is Not Enough(N64) for the Nintendo fans.”
I had actually heard of this weapon from “Full Metal Panic!”.
Mossberg 500
Hogue OM Stock/Forend
Tri-pic rail barrel ring
TLR-1
Buttstock shell sleeve
Looking forward to hearing if the allegations are true that he was a frequent customer of some SF area prostitution rings.
Male, female, or both?
Remington 870 Police Magnum, parkerized, walnut.
Mods: oem 2-shot extension, Streamlight TLR-1, S&J Hardware hi-vis delrin follower, jumbo head safety, and velcro elastic side saddle.
HD ammo: Federal Flite Control 1 Buck
No shotguns, but my HD setup is my Springfield MC Operator w/ sure fire weapon light.
Mossberg 500, Maverick 88 security model. Both 12 bore, both with 00. Would break my heart to have a 1600 dollar benelli impounded after a shooting.
Mossberg, just go to big 5 and replace for 300 bucks. The bad guy won’t care which shotgun launched the 00.
That’s why I went with the Maverick too. If it gets taken as evidence, it’s not a great loss.
That’s a smart policy to use with any firearm you plan on using to poke holes in BGs.
Savage 311C 3inch 20g Double Unmodified
00 in Left (front trigger) Slug in Right (rear trigger).
Aquired Xmas 1968 (I was young)
Since it is the only shotgun I own, it is by default my home defence shotgun.
My XD40 sits on the night stand as my HD goto.
My Savage sits in the gun closet with the AR and I would have to choose which one to grab if the XD was not enough.
ya Allah that make sense. Sandy Hook would not have happened if the guns were in the safe in the mother only knew the code. Oregon mall shooting again gun stolen from a family member acquaintance wouldn’t have happened if it was locked up. if you’re careless and allowing unauthorized illegal use of your weapon, you should be put in jail for whatever crime including murder was committed with that a weapon, and this is not a second Amendment right you don’t have a right to be an idiot with a gun. I have a gun on my hip as I text from my smartphone and my other weapons are in a safe and my ammo and reloading supplies are in another safe.
10mm G20 with Underwood Ammo 155 GDHP chugging at 1500 fps and 775 ft lbs of smack down. Tight quarters for a shotty.
My “nightstand” gun is a Glock 17 with gold dot 124+p’s, mainly because it is much easier to maneuver in the relatively tight confines of my split level ranch. If needed I also keep a mossberg 500 18.5″ loaded with federal tactical #1 15 pellet buckshot (it’s really great stuff I believe ammunition depot sells it online) and federal tru-ball rifled slugs on the side saddle.
Maverick 88 loaded with 7+1 rounds of 3” #4 buck. Top folding stock with saddle holding 5 additional rounds. Heat shield barrel shroud thingy just to add another evil and scary feature.
Mossberg 500 FLEX XS ghost rings sights loaded with Hornady Critical Defence OO Buck.. Neoprene shell holder on butt stock with SPEER Law enforcement slugs. Surefire 6P in a V-Tac light holder on the fore end. “Walmart Special” sling.
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Mossberg 500 8-shot
EOTech Forend Light
00 Buckshot
I have a variety of other shells loaded up in a bandolier (don’t laugh, it goes over a shoulder quick and provides immediate access to different loads with either hand)
I want a Magpul stock, I don’t want a pistol grip because it makes it awkward to use the safety and slide release.
I also need to get a sling.
870 with 7 shot tube, #4 buck.
Sidesaddle for more.
Mossberg 500 with AR style pistol grip adjustable stock. It’s 12 gauge and loaded with Federal 00 buckshot. I patterned different brands and Federal had the pattern I liked best, with Estate being a close second.
Rem 870 18.5 +2 extension Tube for 7+1, full of #4 with an esstac shotgun card full of 00 just in case 🙂
Inforce light and Magpul sling clamp on the mag tube extension, Peltor Ear pro sitting right on top just needing to be turned on.
I’ve drove past bowers, just never been inside
and the weapon was a Mossberg 590 a1 SPX
Remington 870 Police Magnum
00 Buck
No mods
Stevens 320 with a barrel light mount and a buttstock shell holder. It works, and if I have to shoot somebody I’m only out $200 when the cops come to take it.
It’s hard to find a bad pump, the Stevens is really popular, I may get one as a trunk gun.
Nothing fancy, just a stock Mossy 500 with the old-style 18.5″ smoothbore slug barrel. I keep the chamber empty, and load the magazine with one round of Hevi-Shot “Personal Defense” T-shot up front followed by four more of Federal “tactical” 00 buck. Six reloads – four more of the buckshot and two slugs – are on an inexpensive nylon shell sleeve on the buttstock.
The same as my hunting shotgun. Maverick 88 with 20″ Barrel and Tru-Glo rifle sights. Loaded with 5 rounds of 00 Buck. ATI adjustable stock with pistol grip and a 5-shell holder on the stock. Not extremely tactical but should I ever need to use it I know it well and it doesn’t make me seem like some “crazed gun-nut vigilante” to the DA or jury.
Did you just say “collapsible stock with pistol grip”? HORRORS! Don’t you know that putting that on your evil assault weapon can enable you to kill millions, no, kazillions of innocent people!? That’s a number that doesn’t even exist, and they will all die anyway, just so people like you can indulge in paranoid, gun-culturing, children-not-caring-abouting, macho alpha-male fantasies! BLARG!!
Taurus Judge .410 with Remington #4 bird self defense loads. This till I can get too 5.56. Before you get your panties ruffled I live in a condo and am very worried about over penetration. When I lived in the woods I had the pardner pump 12g with 1 bird, 1 buck, and 3 Pdx 1. Again before your panties get ruffled most “home invasions” were coons, possum, and coyote.
My question; in your pocket=on your person? Because if it does, “I sleep with my pants on, officer.”
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Perfect.
“We need sensible bribery and corruption laws. Nobody is going to come to take away your bribery and corruption. If you like your bribery you can keep your bribery. Period. If you like your corruption you can keep your corruption. Period.”
This kinda restores my faith in the FBI
Winchester 1897
24″ Cylinder bore
Chock full of Federal FliteControl 00 Buck
Saving for a shotty. Right now in the night stand is a Glock 41 with a Surefire X300 Ultra and 13+1 of Hornady’s XTP 200 grain rounds. My Bersa Thunder is there as my back up. Also a set of ASP handcuffs in case of a subdued individual. I don’t know about others but I don’t want to stand with a gun pointed at someone while I wait for the police and especially when they get there!
Stupid places? Check
Stupid people? Check
Stupid things? Check
Unmodified Remmington 887 NitroMag. Loaded with 7+1 of 2 3/4 00Buck. Nothing fancy… The simpler the better imo.
I do have a surefire mounted on the forward left rail though.
Mossberg 500 Persuader 20 inch 7+1. Fiber Optic front sight. 150 lumen LED light mounted to magazine tube. Single point sling. #4 Buckshot 6 round velcro shell card with more buckshot on receiver.
Mossberg 590 9-shot, plus a 6-round side saddle, and the heat shield over the barrel (have yet to figure out how to make it go up). Remington 00 Buck in the magazine and 3/3 buck and slugs in the side saddle.
Wait til you try to get it to your shoulder– LOL!
I’ve taken a standard Remington 870 and replaced the stock with a standard colt buffer assembly and collapsible stock, I’ve replaced the entire action with a colt AR upper and lower receiver, and re-barreled it with a 5.56×45 1:7 twist factory colt barrel. I mounted an aimpoint pro on it which once turned on can be left on for about 3 years before replacing the battery. I use quality Hornady TAP ammo and 30 round magpul magazines.
-D
I bet Bloomberg is going to be making some “charitable donations” real soon.
My thought was I wonder if Bloomberg and his mad mommies are next. Sounds like they also need to come to MN and check out Latz and Paymar.
No shotguns…yet. My primary go-to is my trusty Glock 19 loaded with 147gr Winchester Ranger and if that isn’t enough, I also have a XDM-40 with a full mag of Gold Dots.
A Turkish Luger 12ga, 4+1 alternating 3″ 00 buck and Winchester PDX1 slug/buck combos.
So at this point it is the Not-So-Supergrade 1911
H&R Pardner Pump. Loaded with Herters 00buckshot. 5+1. 5.99 a box of 10. No mods. The sound of this Chinese masterpiece being racked will scare the s##t outa’ anyone stupid enough to break in my door. Except I keep it ready to go with the safety on. It’s LOUD LOL
Same here, thing is built like a tank and takes most 870 mods. Going to put a pistolgrip with adjustable stock on it. Sits in the bedroom ready and waiting. Breech is open with one target load in plus one in tube, then two 1600FPS steel shots followed by two 1400fps slugs for a total of six rounds.
Main defense weapon is a S&W M&P in either .40 or .45 which I carry all the time, inside or outside the home.
I have the Mossy 590A1 ready to go with 00 shells but now after reading the above I feel inadiquate. I need a flashlight and the M9 Bayonet. My wallet bleeds.
Maybe I shouldn’t say this in this august company–but mine is a Steven double-barrel, 18 1/2 ” barrels, short stock, loaded with #4 buck. Bought it decades ago, passed it over to my dad, came back to me when he passed away. Only shotgun I have in my possession just now, my other two have been passed over to my sons for the moment. I keep my P-64 handy at night, too, obviously.
I modified my shotgun to take 5.56. I call it an AR15
Used Winchester 1300
Win Mil Surp 00 Buck in it
Remmy 1oz Slugs on it (saddle)
Troy single point sling
Streamlight ProTac (duct taped to the barrel, cause I’m all HSLD like that)
Standard stock and grips
5 +1 capacity
18.5 cylinder bore
And built to please
Winchester 1300 defender, 00 buck, streamlight light/laser combo clamped to the magazine tube. Extra shells in a 4-shell carrier on my belt. Which brings up a question: do you have a set of clothes ready to go? I figure I don’t want to enter a fight in just my underoos, so I keep a pair of pants, tshirt, socks and sneakers near the edge of the closet. If I’ve got time, i’ll throw those on when I leave the bedroom. I keep a pocketknife, zip ties, and a spare flashlight in the pockets.
My Mossberg 590SP sits next to my bed, concealed behind some shelves. Mods include a Mueller reflex sight, and an Ontario M9 bayonet because you just never know who or what might bust down your door at 2 AM and I hear that aliens are allergic to cold steel. Its loaded with a rubber slug first up, then 6 of the 1oz lead variety to back it up. I dont want to kill anybody and i hope the rubber slug will change their attitude before the lead slugs ends it.
Mossberg 500 Police loaded with Fed LE 2 3/4 in 00 Buck( low recoil)
Rock Island m5, 5 round tube, 10 rounds worth of saddle, 180 lumen light. There are no 7 round tubes available since it was made overseas. Way too heavy with all the extras, so I just keep it loaded with the 5 and pray I can rack in time if I ever need too. Don’t make fun of me, for I am clumsy and feel it is safer for me this way.
I keep my Mossberg on the side of the bed using basic curtain rods wrapped in duct tape. Works surprisingly well. I just pull the blankets over it on my way outta bed. No kids, no strangers, yada yada.
I have a Rossi Circuit Judge with a laser. I have it loaded with Winchester PDX defender ammo or Hornady Critical defense. This is the best gun for me to use as I am a quadriplegic.
Remington 870 Express Tactical
00 buck
no mods
I have a biometric safe in my night stand. Its just to keep sticky 3 year old fingers out. I had another safe with a combo I kept in the stand and although it isn’t state law ,AR, it was junk. I just sat the gun on top of it. I would do the same in Cali, add the trigger safety and the cable LAYING beside it. Hell, even the ammo box, fmj of course.
1.) Mossberg 930 SPX (with full fiber-optic replacement of ghost ring aperture)
2.) Remington 870 Tactical-Magpul-Police (with Aimpoint Micro)
For my retired father across the house,
1.) Saiga-12 with a Viridian X5L-RS (So he can not only see the badguys, he can put a bright green laser on their insolent robber a$$es)
2.) Benelli SuperNova Tactical (SteadyGrip)
We don’t play around – it’s a bet, lay it down, if they didn’t know our shotguns I’ll bet they know us now!!!
You do realize this ruling means absolutely nothing, right? As far as BATF is concerned, they are the law, and as such, are not bound by silly things such as a legal opinion by a mere judge.
BATF will kick in doors then decide which laws have been broken, if any, then, do their best to bankrupt anyone who dares challenge their authority.
Way to go Dad!
I think the 3rd NRA rule is: “give us at least 50 bucks a quarter or you guns will acttak you!” Or some such. Before anybody gets in a wad, I am a life member, ‘K?
For home defense pistols and supressed SBR would be my first choices. But I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have a shotgun for home defense also.
870 Police Magnum, 6+1 capacity
XS big dot front sight (bead on pedestal)
Hogue 12″ short stock
Surefire 6V DSF light (600 lumens of burn your face off)
Vang Comp big dome safety
Scattergun side sling mount
Scattergun spring and follower
Mesa 6 shell side saddle
Federal tactical OO buck. I also keep slugs for barriers (vehicles)
My daughter rocks pink. Her outdoor gear is pink themed. And if I’d buy it for her her gun would be pink. I gave her a S&W when she moved out, but it wasn’t pink. We have an ongoing debate about when she gets a pink gun. I say when she buys it and she says when I buy it for her. You know who’s going to win this fight, right?
Pellet gun or not, great pic.
M1 super 90, surefire forend. 7 slugs with buckshot in the side saddle.
You go girl
Gun is simple, Kimber Pro Carry in .45. Trickier is the system I’ve been fooling with for some 30 years, allowing me to turn on all inside and outside lights with one button, from several different points in the house.
Oh, and suppressed SBR is awaiting paperwork.
Party at Farago’s place?
cheapy maverick 88 full of 00. sar k2 .45. i hope to never find out if my setup is adequate.
I run a TBAC SL1 on a Ruger clone 10/22 (the only thing by Ruger is the magazine) with a 1 in 9 twist barrel for the Aquilla SSS 60 grain. It is generally reliable but quite dirty, It stays subsonic. It is also deadly out to 100 yards on criiters. I have not found a standard round that will shoot subsonic in the rifle. I have tried Remington sub-sonic and they don’t cycle. I just bought some Norma Tac22 subsonic with 40 grain slugs. We’ll see how they do in the rifle. I also use the TBAC on a ruger 22/45; it runs standard velocity Federal 36 grain subsonic and it shoots the Norma T22 subsonic quite well. It does not function with the Remington subsonic. It does not shoot the Aqulla SSS 60 grain accurately as you should expect nor does it function the bolt reliably.
I started out on an airgun similar to that one. Awesome pic. Won’t be long until she graduates to the AR.
May his cellmate be named Big Ben the perpetually horny.
I don’t think we should be rewarding him for this sort of bad behavior.
My daughter’s Confederate flag bandana is pink.
Mossberg TR with an ATI Scorpion stock and a cheap-ass tactical light/laser that seems to be sufficient for the job, loaded with 6 rounds of 9-pellet 00 Buck.
Awesome…his epic scumbagness was finally (legally) confirmed. LOSER needs to be locked up.
Benelli Nova with 18.5″ barrel with open rifle sights, back of front sight painted white for visibility, might change it to bright green insead.
Elzetta weapon light on the fore end, and a magazine tube extension, holding 7+1 of 00 Buck, I have a crappy Cabela’s 5 round side saddle on the stock.
Before everyone flips out, I have a Tac-Star mag extension. I’ve had the gun for seven years, and it has yet to jam or fly off or anything like that. But, I plan to replace it with a Nordic Components extension soon, just to be sure it won’t crap out.
I lost all of my guns in a boating accident.
BUT, if I were to have an HDS, it’d be a cylinder-bore Saiga-12 with a 12-rd drum, filled with birdshot. It would wear a railed fore end with a VPG.
Lost all your guns in a boating accident? Why would you have all your guns on board? Were you running illegal substances from Cuba? Just asking.
Just FYI- the “boating accident” is a longrunning gag on the internet and online gun community… The idea being, someone who lost all their firearms in a boating accident would be able to then report to the police the total loss of every firearm they own so there would be no reason to visit them in the future because they have no guns…. they’re all unrecoverable in the ocean.
This way if the Darth Vader faction of gun grabbers get in power, and they come door to door for your boom sticks, you would be free to secretly possess your guns because they would ‘assume’ you ‘lost’ all yours.
Rem 870 20″ cyl 12ga 2 3/4 #4 buck
Moss 500 20″ cyl 12ga 2 3/4 #4 buck
Rem 1100 20″ imp cyl 20ga 2 3/4 #3 buck
Streamlight ProTac TR2 on each.
Never seen a betetr post! ICOCBW
I’m currently working on an 870 Express HD project. So far, 18.5″ barrel with breacher choke, Nordic Components +3 extension, rail and QD sling mount on the barrel clamp, police model trigger assembly, and Magpul MOE forend. I plan to put a Sage TSAR on for the stock, Trijicon/Scattergun Tech 3-dot ghost ring sights, and have a Scattergun Tech oversized safety waiting for installation. I’m considering a rail for the receiver as well. Once everything is on hand and fitted, all the metal is getting a matte black enamel finish (haven’t decided on which brand yet, still sifting through reviews and testimonials). Haven’t picked a light yet, either.
Also have a stock Baikal SxS that would work in a pinch.
Remember arguments you’d have on the playground in 1st, 2nd grade? You’d say X and the other guy would say Y and you’d go back and forth as to who’s correct. Then the other guy would ask a third guy and he’d agree that it’s Y. “See? It’s Y, just like I said!”, the other guy would triumphantly declare. Well.
Who the F is this third kid and what the hell does he know? Nothing. He’s just there. Just another runny nose rugrat like the rest of us. Well, that’s what this ruling is. This snot nosed court is just another group of nobodies just spouting off. Yes, they have the legal authority, I get it, but the robes don’t make them right.
The 2A reads keep and BEAR. This ruling is flat out unconstitutional on its face for denying the right to bear arms. Really, regulating the “manner” in which a right may be exercised is more than sufficient to throttle its exercise altogether without even touching upon its so-called content.
Would this same court uphold a ban on abortions within the city limits? Would it uphold an ordinance mandating that all cleaning supplies and other potential poisons be locked up, for children’s safety? What about medications? Must you have a specialized dedicated refrigerated safe for your heart medicine? When the big one strikes, I sure hope you remember the combo, can find the key, or that the print reader doesn’t malfunction. What if you can’t/don’t have, want, or even know anyone with kids? Why must you be burdened with such a law? Must everyone now buy child car seats today because they theoretically might transport a child in the future?
Would this same court allow restrictions on free speech in one’s own home, based only on time, manner and place, not content? You’re free to criticize the government, but only in a hushed whisper, in a closet, between the hours of 3:30 and 3:31 a.m.? And even then, only after first typing your comments into Word and reviewing them for spelling, grammar, and Flesch-Kinkaid readabilty? After all, modern word processing software can proof documents easily.
This ruling isn’t legal or even political. It’s personal. It’s these noodle spined justices getting hammered by their ultra liberal friends at cocktail parties over their Peruta decision. So now they needed something to show they’re still the same old freedom infringing liberals their family and friends know and love.
All you have to do is look at the face of this moron. End of discussion. Nothing else to say.
This guy was a total looser from day one. His Dr. didn’t smack his ass to get him to breathe at birth,
he smacked his face, he was so stupid looking. Even his mother asked the Doc if he was sure he had gone into the right hole to get this one.
I wouldn’t ask this guy for the time of day..mostly because he looks so stupid, he probably can’t even tell time. This is what a guy looks like that’s too stupid to become a lawyer, and earn a real living.
He doesn’t like guns because he was forced out of his home as a child at gunpoint.
Anything this moron says should be taken as a joke..I mean, cummon..one look at this guys punum,
and you know he’s a shlemeel comedian.
“On Aug. 2, 2012, Innovator asked the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives to provide a classification letter, designating the device as either a firearm muffler or firearm silencer.
The distinction is critical to a company in Innovator’s line of work.
Any device that is deemed to be a “firearm silencer,” defined under federal law as “any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm,” is subject to extensive taxation and registration requirements.”
Anyone else having trouble with this section? To me it appears to indicate there is an important distinction between a muffler and silencer. Then it goes on to say a silencer is a device that muffles! What’s going on?
any word on what he accepted bribes for? what corrupt acts? [serious]
He is being arraigned at 1:30 Pacific, at which time the charges will be revealed. It appears he was involved with/ accepted bribes from a very nasty and dangerous Chinese gangleader who the feds have been trying to nail for years for his various activities, which include, at a minimum, drug and weapons trafficking.
Seriously, if he’s charged with weapons trafficking (or aiding/abetting/turning a blind eye to) we’re all going to have a freaking field day.
My first suggestion if weapons are any part of this: his ONLY motivation for passing strict gun control legislation and bans was to drive up the price of the weapons sold illegally by his gang friends in order to increase their demand and profit margin and therefore increase his own profits.
Idiotic. Now if they said you have to lock up guns when away, then maybe they could talk about how they’re just keeping guns from being stolen.
Winchester 1300 Defender with pistol grip at the stock and the slide. I have added two lights and a laser light combo the front and a side saddle opposite the ejection port. I use 000 Buck with five loaded and an empty chamber.
I had a similar issue with the adjustable reat sight on my Springfield Range Officer. I just shipped them the slide by normal UPS – that’s just a hunk of metal, not a firearm.
Rem 870 express – basic stock and forearm, iron sights on the original 18.5″ barrel. Slingless in the house. Lots a boxes of military surplus 00 buck for HD.
Found that KISS works good for me doing a couple combat shotgun classes, and noticed the more experienced shooters run the same. Would buy an bandolier belt if I needed more rounds, per ex-Seal instructor suggestion.
For hunting, I use a wooden dowel inside the spring in the magazine to reduce capacity to the 3 max limit.
Have a wingmaster barrell, for turkey
and
a rifled barrel with iron sights for in-the-brush deer and pig hunting.
Humping it for deer, I use a sling with wrap around velcro’d pocket at butt w/ extra round loops in a pouch, and a velcro loop at the front end you can attach as you like- so I can carry african or American style depending on how thick the bush, how deep the mud, following pig tunnels and deer trails. meh…
FAILS:
1. tried a tacticool pistol gripped recoil spring operated absorber stock and it didnt help much, just slapped my cheek silly while trying to get a weld.
2. Tried a TruGlo red-dot on a saddle mount, which broke internally after a few rounds of slug.
3. Tried a Nikon Slughunter mounted on saddle mount- too much flex for a reliable zero.
Thinking about trying the rifled barrel with cantilevered scope mount, for use with a Nikon Slughunter scope – supposed to be able to shoot Hornady sabot slugs out to 150-175 yds on a pig sized target. We’ll see…have lots more work to do to get good with the ol’ win70-270 which is the better weapon in them thar’ hills.
He was/is a great guy. Remington marketing staff ( ex army) need to learn how to do business. Creating empires is what they are good at!!!!!
I used to run a pistol grip converted Saiga-12 with 6-position stock, foregrip, red dot, flashlight, & a 20 round drum loaded with 00 buckshot. I’ve since switched to my AR-15 with Eotech & Viridian CL5 light/laser combo. Lighter, easier to manuever with, & less chance of destroying my house. It’s loaded with Hornady 55gr V-Max to prevent overpenetration.
Does anybody else store their shotgun in a mattress rack? I’ve found this to be far and away the most convenient, but I don’t hear of many people doing it. Cheap curtain rods, duct tape, nice and secure.
How many of his guns did they find in the raid?
I have a large stable of handguns, and my favorite shooter by far is my P220 Elite Carry Stainless. Not only is it one of the most beautiful guns I’ve ever laid eyes on, it’s also hands-down the best shooting handgun I’ve ever experienced. It wasn’t easy to find, but it was well worth the wait. I’m pretty sure me and that one will go to the grave together…
Mossberg M590A1 20″ w/ a SureFire DSF-500 forend loaded with Federal Premium Personal Defense 2 /34″ #4 shot. Backup is an HK45.
Now I really want a shotgun. My wallet hates you all!
I was wondering what happened to this tape. It’s been a while since the debate happened.
Aloe Vera on the BURN!
did you try using some blue loctite/threadlocker?
Anyone who doubts that mass murder by our government has not happened needs to talk to an American Indian. Like RF said “Disarmed, rounded up and killed.”
Government’s mission is to compel or prohibit, its core competency is coercion, and its tool is violence.
He doesn’t seem to understand that current law requires psychiatrists to report people that are obviously a threat to themselves and/or others, that such people need to be involuntarily committed thru a judicial process, and those people are already prohibited from owning firearms.
Of course, if people that are “too dangerous” to have a gun are locked up then it doesn’t matter whether there is a registry or not, because those “too dangerous” people would be locked up, and they wouldn’t have a gun.
I keep my Mossberg Persuader handy with an over sized Hogue pistol grip installed.
It is loaded with 00 buckshot and the sidesaddle is holding 6 additional rds. of the same.
S&W 3000 (870 clone made by Howa) loaded with buckshot, 5 more in the buttstock shell holder. $150 dollar home defense!
Confiscation after Katrina was “perfectly reasonable.” Okaaaaaay.
It really is like herding cats . . . he just moves on when you make a good point, spouting useless numbers like “90% of mentally ill people who should be prohibited were able to buy a gun”. As defined by whom, and under what standard? As far as I can tell his standard was someone who had ever had any kind of psychological or emotional issue. When the guy talks about his research, he comes off as a walking, talking confirmation bias.
“As defined by whom, ….”
As defined by some gun control group’s website that references another gun control website’s study that was done near a water cooler with a bunch of echo-chamber-loving employees that are obviously mathematically challenged.
Hawk 981r with Hogue furniture (12 inch length of pull short stock), Scatergun tech mag extension, & a full size 450 lumen led flashlight mounted on the scope rail. I run the 15 pellet 3 inch 00 Super-X loads from Winchester, 7 in the mag and 5 in the saddle carrier.
Well, since Obama’s cut off sales of Hellfire missiles to the military, don’t we need the civilian market to support their sales and manufacture?
–Andrew, @LawSelfDefense
Ive been to gun shops and gun shows all over the country. 99% of them are all the same. I have no idea how most of them do enough business to keep the lights on. High prices and bad attitudes keep me away. The only use I have for a gun shop these days is to receive a firearm that I ordered and paid for from somewhere else and do the paperwork for $25. Everything else is cheaper on line and to my front door. The only exceptions in this state is Jim’s Gun Jobbery in Fayetteville and Mackeys Ferry Guns in Mackeys Ferry. Jims has always had the more exotic military rifles and Mackeys has thousands of guns. Honorable mention to Midsouth Guns in Wagram for having at least 1000 shotguns in stock st all times.
And another thing, he quotes 7% of the murders are gang related. Bull. I’m looking at the 2012 report, and I can almost guarantee that he is looking at “Expanded Homicide Data Table 13”. In that table there are two headings, “Gangland Killings” and “Juvenile gang killings”, which account for around 900 homicides combined out of the total ~12,000 reported. In that case yes, 6.8% is the number you come up with. But does anyone believe that NONE of the homicides listed in “other arguments” (3,085) or “Unknown” (4,582) or any of the several other narcotics or property-related homicides are gang-related? Seriously? Keep in mind that the “unknown” category alone accounts for over a third of the total homicides, and if you include “other arguments” you’re hovering around 60%.
It might be a pain, but I think hammering BS numbers needs to be the strategy. Next time grab the UCR beforehand and have it ready to go, because these kinds of baloney statistics need to have the curtain pulled away.
Wow! That wallpaper at the beginning with the bloodied USA is way over the top.
The host’s views and comments were way over the top too.
Everything was over the top, except his voice… M-o-n-o-t-o-n-e.
well they left the comments open on Youtube. I see a number of arguments here that should be posted there.
Most of the drones I know from DC aren’t hunters anyway, so no loss there.
Wait, WHAT? An air strike on small game?
http://youtu.be/H_hX2uUc6us
What about hunting drones?
We must do all we can to stop this drone-on-drone violence. Also protect the children. Also . . . . oh, squirrel.
–Andrew, @LawSelfDefense
20″ 870 Wingmaster, recoil-reducing stock (forgot the make, no markings, but works well), #4 Buck (no preference of manufacturer), and also Brenneke Sabots….
I also would like some of these exploding salt licks as this seems entertaining
I wouldn’t decide to invade her house now.
But if I was a criminal, I might wait until no one was home, then burglarize it to get her Taurus .32.
Two things smart homeowners never do:
1) Announce to the world that they have no guns.
2) Announce to the world that they have guns.
My wife and I will be visiting New Orleans in a couple of weeks. I’m pretty sure my Missouri CCW is honored in Louisiana, but does anyone here have any tips, warnings, local city laws – anything we need to look out for, gun law wise?
Make sure you check on that carefully. I just took my CHL class in Texas, and our instructor warned us that Louisiana has some different laws. He gave us a website to check, unfortunately all of my stuff from the class is at home. I’ll see about getting it tonight and re-posting, if no one else does in the mean time.
Remington 870 Tactical (magpul furniture) with Streamlight TLR-1 and Leupold Delta point Reflex sight.
Winchester Olin 00 buck 1450 FPS
Taurus .32 magnum. I was able to google it in 10 seconds. And I’m using my phone.
And given the the December Western District ruling that the mag cap ban is unconstitutional
Let’s be clear here. The total ban on the previously grandfathered over 10-round capacity magazines has not been overturned. Only the requirement to load just 7 rounds into a 10-round magazine has been overturned.
Imteresting… It boils down to “if it has a detachable magazine and a characteristic.”
I jest, but not by much.
As Sam Gamgee once said: “No welcome, no beer, no smoke, and a lot of rules and orc-talk instead.” Welcome to the Shire under Saruman.
1975 Vintage Mossie 500 with slug barrel, ATI M-4 style stock with pistol grip, cheap but surprisingly rugged red dot sight from Bass Pro. Four rounds of 3″ 15 pellet 00 buck in the magazine, three slugs and two more rounds of buck in a sidesaddle carrier. “Weight of metal” worked in the old Horatio Hornblower smoothbore days and it still does the same.
NO SH__! I can’t believe it! Talk about karma.
This has precedence from New York City. The City’s infamous Sullivan Law was similarly introduced and enforced for the benefit of Gangs. “Big Tim” Sullivan was head of a criminal syndicate and a New York politician.
Is anyone surprised that crooked politicians and criminal syndicates want citizens disarmed? The two often go together.
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-strange-birth-of-nys-gun.html
“Yippie Ki Yay,mother#&##3r”
Mossberg 590A1 20″
Magpul furniture
Ghost ring sights
Nothing special Remington OO buckshot
At least she didnt fire warning shots and kill a pit bull.
I hope he rolls and implicates DiFi. It would make up for the pony I was PROMISED but never received.
And here I’d thought nothing bee-ootiful would happen today…
He didn’t get the guns legally in the Philippines either, they have very strict gun laws and foreigners are not allowed to have any.
Women need more control OF guns.
So when the offender cant get a gun, he will just use a blunt instrument, knife, or just beat the poor victim to death. Brilliant! I agree with BigRed2989 on this one.
The NRA needs to get on the ground now ; like now now now and start a major pushback in Sacramento because the antis can recover. The papers are already focusing on the office this guy was running for in the fall instead of his current office, totally leaving out his party association. If its done right the anti gun hydra may have one of its heads removed , or at least beaten up a bit.
Some lead in the ass may just prove to be all the motivation these “disadvantaged youths” need to turn away from crime
This story is proof God works in mysterious ways, but he does work.
Looks like Ace is linking to us from the ever popular Ace of Spades HQ blog ( http://ace.mu.nu )
Any fellow morons in here?
I do not get this story. Does simple possession of 2 AR’s and ammo give police probable cause to arrest you in MO?
This leads one to wonder if this is a common situation in anti-gun circles.
Oh Lord…PUULEESE let this be true!!!
Laws for thee but not for Yee!
H&R Pardner 20ga, loaded with 5+1 #4 buck, no mods.
Was cheap, the wife can handle it, has never failed on me and still flings a whole lotta lead at the bad guy.
Obama, Holder, Feinstein and Schumer are next. Please tell me they’re next. PLEASE.
This really seems like a very simple issue. Namely, RTFM. If you don’t read the employee handbook you are a fool, because sooner or later you are very likely going to need something in there, ESPECIALLY in a right-to-work state. Right-to-work is a rather big misnomer, as it essentially means that employees can be fired for just about any reason at any time. The problem is that means your employer can fire you for parting your hair funny. Your only recourse is if you can prove that the firing was discriminatory, which is very difficult and even with solid evidence is often unsuccessful, or show that they violated their own policies. You’re never going to know if they did something wrong (at least until it’s too late to do anything about it) if you don’t read the handbook.
In addition, whether you like it or not, private entities (e.g. you and me) have the right to limit the terms of access to private property. Say I have a family member with a severe phobia of bicycles (yes, I know it’s absurd, that’s the point). I have the right to announce that bicycles are not allowed anywhere on my property, post accordingly, and charge individuals with trespassing if they violate that policy. Keep in mind of course that there are appreciable differences between residential and commercial (particularly consumer/retail commercial) property, but a private entity, on a fundamental level, still has the right to dictate the terms under which people come onto its property. Protesting is considered free speech, but that doesn’t mean you can do it on private property without the owner’s consent.
It was interesting to me, not being from Louisville, that I didn’t even consider this as being a mostly-black group of kids until the comment from Danny Griffith above. White, black or green it’s not acceptable behavior under any circumstances. These “flash mobs” will no doubt continue until one occurs at the wrong time and place and results in their blood running in the streets.
How about we just scrap the ATF? And the EPA, DOE, DOA, IRS, etc. and start over?
It’s not that the antis get off on their anger. They really get off on it. Their “you’re too stupid to understand what’s good for you” self-righteous fury creates a positive feedback loop. They’re right, so they’re angry; they’re angry, so they’re right. Even better, it’s all for the children.
Which reinforces my point that the low intelligent constituents that make up the gun grabbers and the Democratic party at large just need something on which to focus their raw emotions.
Shrimp Boy Chow…his accomplice. Priceless
What we need is more anti drug and syringe laws. That will stop this from ever happening again.
I have three Glocks–20, 21, 22 and I have three 1911s–Colt, Para 1445, Kimber. Thousands of rounds later, two stovepipes. So as of today, advantage Glock.
The average person is going to be far better off buying the Glock…
And if you listen to the pants-wetting terror of the NRA we all need to buy MOAR GUNS RIGHT NOW!!!! or the drug gangs and criminals and terry-wrists will murder us all in our beds. But then, the NRA has become little more than a marketing arm for the the firearms industry. Everything is a clarion call to buy as many guns as you possibly can right away because someone will kill you if you don’t.
Think of him as the Alexander Graham Bell
of weapons technology, the Steve Jobs of rifle design, the Henry
Ford of the gun industry. These are similar to the types used on hunting rifles and
are often made of hard plastic or wood. So, my friend, I hope this little article
helps clear up your quandary of ‘One gun’ Which one’.
This supports the Panspermia hypothesis, which states that life exists abundantly throughout the universe and
spreads through the medium of space-traveling
bodies like meteors, planetoids, and comets.
Before the holiday, many streets change their names and become “street of flowers”,
“street sweets”, “Street holiday decorations. During the first nine days of September Jupiter in Virgo is continuing to boost building of the structure to support our own personal vision.
Mossberg 590A1 18.5 inch with ghost ring sights. I added an S&J Hardware +2 mag extension for a 7+1 capacity with 2-3/4 inch Federal 00 Buckshot. I added velcro to the left side of the receiver to hold a detachable shot card carrying an extra 7 shells. Finally, I added a wood stock and forend to make the gun less intimidating to a hoplophobic jury, should I ever actually be forced to use it in a kill or be murdered situation. Well, that and I just like wood furniture.