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Question of the Day: Would You Name Your Child After a Gun or Gunmaker?

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Armed America (courtesy telegraph.co.uk)

“In 2002, only 194 babies were named Colt,” the dailybeast.com reports, “while in 2012 there were 955. Just 185 babies were given the name Remington in 2002, but by 2012 the number had jumped to 666.” Uh-oh. “Perhaps the most surprising of all, however, is a jump in the name Ruger’s (America’s leading firearm manufacturer) from just 23 in 2002 to 118 in 2012 . . . In 1999, Gunner ranked 739th on the list of the Official Social Security site’s 1000 most popular names for boys—by 2012 it jumped to 293rd. Remington, for both girls and boys, spiked in the last few years as well, starting at 731st place in 1999 and jumping to 421nd a decade later. In 2012 alone, approximately 1,607 babies per million were named Colton—a peak high for the name.” Would you name a child after a gun or gunmaker? Have you? And OK, yes, if my dog wasn’t such a bitch I would have called her Ben for Benelli. [h/t DB]

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. Id like to hear how the cops in CT feel about all this. Seems theyre all too happy to “just follow orders” here.

    Theyre making disobeying unjust laws out to be worse than enforcing those unjust laws.

    So CT cops are happy to turn hoses on negroes and raid gay bars?

    Law is the law is the law, right? I mean its not like laws are ever oppressive or discriminatory or just plain stupid.

    It must suck to be a cop with a brain or sense of honor. Probably why there are so few who do.

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  2. The EVIL point here is LEGISLATORS. These elected officals who decide, without public comment to pass a law that make citzens FELONS. No care if that particular law is valid. To pass a law and then say, well let’s higher courts rule on weather what we passed was correct……this the worst example of elected leadership.

    The PEOPLE OF CT, are your elected representatives worthy of your patronage, worthy of your trust, worthy of your vote?

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    • My 19 month old son’s name is also Barrett. Wanted a strong sounding name and when the wife saw it in a gun magazine, she was sold. Lot of positive comments from random people when they hear his name.

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  3. just because the law is unconstitutional and you have to turn in your Bibles and Quran’s dose not mean you can disobey it.

    yes it does. if any other right other than the 2A was being abused so heavily, there would be an uproar among the whole country. if there was a law infringing on your freedom of religion, no one would call you a criminal for praying. if there is a law infringing on your right to protect your freedom of religion, then if you disobey it you are labeled a white extremist criminal.

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  4. I can see naming a kid after a revolutionary. Thomas if you want him to be a thinker; Benjamin if you want him to be a diplomat; maybe Morgan if you’d rather see your kid grow up to be an out and out brawler.

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  5. A dog, yes. A bull, absolutely. Horse, freaking cool. Your child, hell no!

    It’s kind of like the white version of LaQuanda, Shanequa, or Deshawndre…

    It’s basically condemning your child to being looked upon as a stereotype.

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  6. Remington could be Remington Steel from the old TV show. But why would it have taken so long to catch on. I think your on to something, Robert.

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  7. This is the second paper talking about consequences of disobeying laws. I agree, anyone disobeying such a law should consider and be ready to face the consequences. While some in CT might have failed to register out of ignorance or apathy, I suspect many others made the decision knowing the possible results without needing a lecture from some editorial staff.

    The question I have: is the guy writing that editorial ready for all the possible consequences that could Hey anonymous TheDay writier… stfu until you’ve got skin in the game.

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  8. he or she must obey the law or face the consequences of breaking it.

    And the cops have to enforce the law or face the consequences. So why isn’t Connecticut rounding up all those evil, noncompliant gun owners, instead of begging them for compliance?

    Here’s my reply to the Obamabots and Bloomberg Lovers of Connecticut: You made your stupid law. Now go ahead and enforce it.

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  9. The law’s constitutionality is a matter for the courts to determine, not the individual gun owner.

    That to me and many others is the reason to fight it. I find it disturbing in so many ways that the people are not considered,pushed over and ignored. I’m glad those guys are not taking anymore crap being shoved down their throats.

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  10. I would no comply either. I may not be lawyer who specializes in “constitutional law” (whatever that is, aren’t all laws supposed to be constitutional?) but I know what in “infringe” means.

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  11. “Remy” for Remington (that’s how I refer to them)? Whinny for Winchester?

    Samuel? Henry?

    A friend-of-a-friend, who’s a fan of the A-Team, named his first kid so that his first and middle initials are B.A.

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  12. My response to these people is, “Fine, you think it shouldn’t be a right? Fire up the system and let’s get the states come in on an amendment to dissolve the second, oh wait, you can’t. In a world where states have equal power, that isn’t happening. And furthermore, if it did, people like the author aren’t going to be the ones picking up arms to quash the rebellion when the entire center of the country and south across the map go “uh, excuse me but NO”. Especially when most of the people the author would expect to quash the people of the gun are in fact, our constituents.

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  13. I can see the advantages in certain cases with Kydex, but as someone mentioned above, comparing Kydex to a very-well made leather holster is almost apples to oranges for me. There is a time and place for both types, but a good leather holster will certainly require more care (and probably twice the cost).

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  14. Thanks for Voodoo you do. Great site, great writing, great source of information – that’s why I check in at least once a day. Happy Birthday!

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  15. OK, [rifle] barrels again.

    Single point cut (or just “cut”) rifling is produces the best, most accurate barrels. It also allows for rapid changes to the twist rate, groove depth, as well as the number of grooves you want to put in the barrel. You can even do gain twist rifling very easily with cut rifling. People interested in gain twist rifling should read up on the barrels and gunsmithing of Harry M. Pope, a famous gunsmith of 100 years ago. Why are these barrels so accurate? Because the method of rifling doesn’t impart stresses into the barrel, which show up as deviations in the point of impact as the barrel heats up.

    The downside is that it is slow, and it requires skill, something that mass-production gun companies don’t want to pay for any more. Two companies that are well known in the accuracy field (I’m talking benchrest and F-class) for their very accurate barrels are Krieger and Bartlein.

    Broach, or “button” cut rifling is the next type of rifling. A carbide “button” or broach is pulled through the bore after the bore has been drilled, reamed and (possibly) lapped. Then a broach is pulled through the barrel, and the broach has the number of cuts on it, as well as the twist rate. You pull the broach through and it cuts all the grooves at once, twisting as it goes down the bore. This broaching operation imparts stresses into the steel, and no one can deny this with a straight face, because if you’ve ever been next to a broaching machine pulling a rifling button through a barrel, there’s a hell of a “bang!” when that broach exits the barrel. These barrels have to be stress-relieved after rifling to get them to be pretty accurate – and they are.

    Upsides: Faster than single point cut barrels, and therefore cheaper.
    Downsides: Not quite as accurate, but much more accurate than many factory barrels.

    Some of the makers of broached barrels: Pac-Nor, Lilja, Douglas, Hart, etc.

    Most all rifles that I build for sporting shooting (ie, hunting rifles) will have broached barrels. You can get broached barrels in reasonable times these days, whereas cut rifled barrels often have a waiting list. Last I looked, it will take over nine months to get a rifle barrel out of Krieger. Last I knew, Savage broached their barrels.

    Hammer forged, sometimes called “cold hammer forged,” is the way that most large gun companies now make barrels. Remington, Ruger, FN, etc. The equipment is expensive and large.

    The upsides are that it is pud-simple: Put a barrel with an oversized bore onto a mandrel that has the rifling pattern on it, and literally squish the metal down onto the mandrel. Pull the mandrel out, you’re done. It takes almost no time at all, compared to the other two methods.

    Upsides: Fast, cheap (which is all that modern gun companies care about any more), takes little skill in the employee running the machine. You get a smoother bore without lapping compared to the other two methods, because there’s almost no tooling marks left. Broach cutting leaves tooling marks that need to be lapped out. If your mandrel was held to very tight size specs, then your bore will reflect those as well. With the other two methods, you need to air gauge the barrel to see if there were any over/under-sized deviations going down the bore.

    CHF barrels are great for mass-produced guns that aren’t going to be used for high accuracy work. Shooting 3-gun and “tactical” stuff is not “accuracy work.” Most military rifles are 2 minute guns, and have been for a long time. You just can’t crank out the number of barrels needed for today’s mass-produced guns with cut rifling, and maybe not even with broached rifling, so we now have CHF dominance in mass-produced barrels.

    Downsides are the stresses then imparted into the barrel in the cold working of the steel. You can relieve much of this stress out, but the simple fact is, the easiest stresses to remove are the ones you didn’t put into the steel in the first place. As the barrel warms up, these stresses will cause changes in the point of impact, which reflects in larger group sizes.

    Other downsides are the cost of the machine(s), the cost of making the mandrel, the fact that if you want to change anything about the rifling, you’re paying for another mandrel, etc. What you have on the mandrel is what you get in the bore.

    I’ve been around guns a fair bit longer than many here, and I have never heard of CHF barrels, anyone’s CHF barrels, being described as “legendary,” and I seriously doubt such barrels will ever attract anyone investing the time, money and expense to try to replicate them as gunsmiths have invested in figuring out Harry Pope’s barrels. No one I know in the serious accuracy fields of pursuit uses CHF barrels; CHF barrels aren’t made by any of the custom barrel makers in the US that I know of. Most of the custom barrel makers use broached rifling, and the very best (and most expensive, with the longest waiting times) are still cut.

    Last comment on the above rifle: I have no idea why someone would use a broached barrel and then chrome plate it. If you’re going to decrease the accuracy potential of a barrel by chrome plating it, then why start with a higher quality barrel in the first place? That’s really, really odd to me.

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  16. Congrats and here is to another four years.

    Robert, where do you see ttag to be, go, end up, in four years?

    What are you most proud of in the time you devoted to ttag?

    What do you consider your biggest failure or the darkest hour, since starting ttag?

    What is one thing that ttag changed in your personal life, that was unexpected or would not have happened if ttag was the truth about gardening?

    What is your number one challenge that you hope will be conquered by and with ttag?

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  17. Governor Malloy’s decision to make felons of typical gun owners in Connecticut was a bold move, and a foolish one. Connecticut was nicknamed the Provisions State long ago because there was so much food, munitions, and supplies provided to American soldiers out of the state during the Revolutionary War. Many monumental actions happened in Connecticut during that war. Many true patriots fought and resided in its towns during that time, hiding guns and refusing to hand them over to the British. The spirit of rebellion is obviously still alive in Connecticut today, which I pray opens the eyes and ears of Americans all over the country who think that every unconstitutional law signed by corrupt government officials must be obeyed. Is rebellion necessarily a bad thing when it comes to rights granted to us by God and ensured in our constitution? More people need to remember, or learn, about our roots and fight for what so many have laid their lives down to obtain and defend. Hopefully letters like this will make an impact on those who so desperately desire to destroy the constitution, but I think it will take much more than subtle threats or ultimatums. After all, I’m sure many letters were written to the king in hopes of resolution in the 1700’s. I wonder if things like this even make it to the desks of those they are intended for, and if so, whether they read and consider them. Why do so many elected officials try so hard to stop us from protecting ourselves? Do they really see criminals rethinking their actions because of signs and registering their weapons intended for use in crimes? I just do not understand the logic behind making victims of Americans while giving free reign to the bad guys. Unfortunately, too many United States citizens only care about who is going to the Super Bowl, jokers like Justin Beiber and buying the next big thing..

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  18. started reading you about 3 months ago. glad i found you. love the 2a stories. love seeing the gungrabbers get their due from you as well. they dont realize where this country would be without firearms. remember what hitler did to his people? once again, thanks.

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  19. In SC what she did is called “Pointing/Presenting” and is a felony. Personally know a guy who spent the night in the clink for answering the door to a drunk with a gun in his hand. The drunk was a tenant at another property and was arguing about rent. The landlord pulled a .45 out of his waistband and let it be seen by the drunk. The drunk left, waited a day, then called a cop and filled out a report that the landlord threatened him with a gun. Cop got a warrant from a judge, picked the landlord up, confiscated his gun, and put a 5000.00 bond on the guy, as well as bond conditions that you would think he had pulled the trigger. After hiring a lawyer and waiting a year the charges were quietly dropped. He got his gun back in a nifty white box wrapped with yellow police tape. He calls it a 5K Ruger, thats what he spent on the lawyer to essentially do nothing but speak to the DA a few times.

    Everybody thinks SC is a gun friendly state but there are loopholes and anachronistic laws that are completely anti gun. Its the Jekyll/Hyde syndrome, sure you can carry a gun but if anybody complains the law comes knocking, and they do not give a crap if lies were told to get the warrant. Its a well known revenge tactic in SC, of which the revered pro gun Nikki Haley has shown no inclination to change.

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  20. Solzhenitsyn:

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

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    • Solzhenitsyn has impeccable street cred. That particular passage has enormous resonance. The powers that be need to understand that real Americans wil not go meekly into that sweet good night.

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  21. Hmmm… an ordinary couple oldsters, but armed – in Massachusetts, no less.

    That gun was probably issued to him some time in the ’50s or ’60s, methinks – unless it was a souvenir.

    Chalk up one for the good guys.

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  22. On the Don Lemon show of cnn on Thursday was a woman in Detroit who shot at 3 men entering her home after she told them she ha a gun and all on video. I don’t know who the Guy was maybe Crimp, said the gun people are spinning this thing and saying “See she was using her 2Arights” No,she did the right thing. It was so darn funny Don and a woman just sat there with a shocked look on their faces. I was hoping to see that here. Don Lennon has a gun.

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  23. Rigby or Holland are both pretty good boy’s names (though in keeping with my roots I’d probably go with Simo, as in the Finnish sniper). Norma or Kriss for a girl.

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  24. The thing about compromise is that it’s only good when one side is not objectively wrong. It’s a good compromise when little boys are playing a game, and they agree that one of them gets to be Batman this time because he wasn’t Batman last time. That’s a good compromise because no one is objectively wrong or right. The thing about gun control is that compromise is unacceptable because gun control is objectively wrong in that it will at best have no effect on crime, and at worst increase it. THAT is why gun control is something that cannot be compromised over.

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  25. ” Jeff and I have been talking for some time about different ways of using me.”
    Am I wrong to hope it involves Jeremy Clarkson? Seriously he’s the most interesting brittish tv thing since wallace and grommit. (Clarkson not morgan)

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  26. Winkler sure called that, for SD County… just another academic drinking his own bathwater…

    But, hey, why not- lets all call our CA legislators and get behind this –

    – I can just see Mr De Leon wiggling on the hook now…:)
    – watching Shannon trying to explain this to her Fakebook cool-kids club will be worth it…)
    – the reporter questions to DiFi, Pelosi, Box-a-Rocks…priceless!

    Meanwhile, back in the real world-
    the SD Sheriifs clerk’s calendar is already full to mid-June for application for CCW appointments.

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  27. Y’know, that looks like a respectable li’l machine. I’d own one, happily.

    The one in the vid looked a little less like an advert for rails.ru, too.

    I like it; it’s about as unpretentious as a 1970 Chevy truck.

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  28. “San Diego will undoubtedly appeal the [Peruta] decision [striking down the just cause” provision

    No wonder he’s teaching. With predictions like that he could never be trusted as a partner.

    That he and Volokh can be teaching in the same law school makes me think Winkler is only there to provide contrast, part of a false-silver setting for a true diamond.

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