I was interviewed about the use of bump fire stocks by CBS News yesterday. (Click here for the video, click here for Nick’s explanation of their function.) The newscasters ignored the bit where I said the device was only effective because Las Vegas spree killer Stephen Paddock was shooting indiscriminately at an enormous target. (We’re posting the raw video of the CBS interview later today.) Producer Mark Hooper didn’t ask me the question I dreaded . . .
“Should the bumpfire stocks be banned?”
As a Second Amendment absolutist, as a conservative who believes gay couples should be able to defend their [legal] marijuana crop with machine guns, my answer is “no.” And then I’d have to say . . . what?
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Drops mic.
Here’s the problem – The majority of Americans are getting tired of that refrain. Decades of laws and legal precedents have pretty much set the fact that 2A is not an unrestricted right. Don’t believe me? Take a trip to CA, NY, etc.
Simply replying that the 2A is absolute is going to sound more and more like the justifications that neo-Nazis and other hate groups give when they march. Stay on this path and gun owners will one day be as reviled as other groups deemed bad by society.
I’m not suggesting that we cave, but we need to come up with a better strategy to convince our fellow Americans that guns and people can coexist and much of the problem is not because of guns but because of people.
As for the bump stock – let’s call it what it is. It’s a clever way to skirt the prohibition against free access to full auto weapons. Most people in this country including many gun owners are in favor of keeping machine guns restricted. That is very unlikely to change and as long as we have devices that violate the spirit (if not the letter) of the law, the loopholes will close. Just look at what CA did to deal with the bullet button loophole.
For the record, I’ve owned both a bump stock and a true full auto gun and I’m not opposed to civilian ownership of them. On the other hand, my main objections to the way things are done now (Form 4) is the astronomically long wait and the fact that I paid roughly 30 times more for the full auto gun than it’s semi-auto brother would have cost due to the fact that new ones cannot be bought.
Is it really a right if it’s not absolute though? The other constitutional rights should also be absolute. We’re working on reclaiming those as well after years of abuse.
I defend them by replying, “shall not be infringed”.
And then I will also demand the repeal of several other infringements…
Yeah, they tried this in places like CA, NY, NJ, MA, CT, etc. Time for a new strategy.
Do you defend rubber bands? They can do the same thing, this country is on drugs, the chi.com’s will mine American corpses for calcium in the near future.
Edit, holy cow my post appeared when i posted it!
Should dexterous people with fast reflexes, capable of rapidly pulling a trigger faster than an average person be banned from owning guns?
That’d ruin Jerry Miculeck’s day.
He’s grandfathered, so to speak.
That a ban would be meaningless because there are so many ways to emulate rapid fire, home built bump stocks, illegal full auto mods, etc. It’s the same battle as large cap mags, nobody really needs them, but banning them won’t change anything. Decent shot with a dozen Henry lever actions (credit to hickok45 on u-tube) could have done about the same amount of damage probably.
I think Hickock45 was replicating something done on HBO’s West World show.
As a practical matter, our 2A rights will be in jeopardy like never before unless we can cede that bump stocks should be covered under the NFA.
Ryan’s version of never letting a crisis go to waste.
I think bump fire stocks are ridiculous. If we’re banning things I think are ridiculous, the list starts way before that.
They shouldn’t be banned, but they should not be required because we should be able to buy, make and own the real thing. They were made because of an ultimately stupid law.
What’s to defend? Bump fire stocks are legal. The problem arises with hi cap mags and semi auto firearm’s. That’s the next fight. ,
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
This prefatory thought provides insight into one reason (though not limiting) the founders felt that the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
And from whom or what might the Militia be exercising that right? Certainly not against deer or rabbits. The preface to the 2nd Amendment warns us that the people must be equal to the task of fighting a modern army or even our own government. Devices such as this which could, however feebly, enhance the rate of fire for one of the most popular arms available must be protected. I agree that I don’t need a machine gun to hunt deer, but nothing says my deer gun shouldn’t be up to the task of defending this Nation from all enemies foreign and domestic should I task it so.
Does banning these even acomplish anything? Can you just pull the trigger real fast? What’s the percent increase in fire rate? What does it do to accuracy?
I garuntee you the banners have no idea.
It’d keep copy-cats from buying them.
You can pull the trigger really fast, but not fast enough as a bump-fire, and your finger would tire pretty quickly.
The percentage is enough to make everyone think it was an automatic weapon.
Accuracy with it sucks. But that doesn’t matter when your target is the size of several football fields.
I think I have a pretty good grasp of firearms and I’m leaning towards making them illegal. My only reservation is that it’s a slippery slope. So try some better arguments if you want to convince me, let alone someone who doesn’t have a clue.
They essentially want to ban “something” because they think external factors cause crime, rather than the internal motivations and mindests of people. “If we get rid of [thing], no one will [do bad thing],” etc. It’s the mindset that thinks you can regulate or legislate away behavioral abnormality, because they really do believe that deep down, “everyone is equal.” While it’s a lovely utopian notion, it’s demonstrably false.
They simply cannot bring themselves to admit that there are bad people who do bad things, regardless of how much they wish that weren’t the case. Unable to do anything truly preventative, they choose to punish a law-abiding demographic they simply don’t like, regardless of the fact that the overwhelming majority of that group have nothing to do with the issue at hand, and aren’t particularly predatory in nature.
“Ban [thing] because we’re scared and it makes us feel better.” That’s basically it.
Only thing I see that this offers over RIA compact 1911 (which costs less and Battlefield Vegas has proven the reliability of actually exceeds most of the fancy 1911s) is the caliber.
Both are Armscor guns, made the same in the same place by the same people on the same equipment.
I would have demo’d the belt loop technique with an ordinary stock.
Really? In the current climate?
Do you want them to ban all semi-auto weapons?
Tear apart any common vibrator. Remove the motor and eccentric cam. Mount that inside your trigger guard and set your variable potentiometer for whatever rate of fire you desire. Take your bump stock and shovel it. I’m sure there are limitless methods of accomplishing the same thing. Can we move on now?
“the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” I hate to repeat…..But…….That’s how I defend them…..and that’s good enough.
Simply stated, you don’t defend bump fire stocks after a they are used in an illegal context anymore than you defend commercial vehicles which are used in a similar illegal manner by terrorists.
The truck, rifle stock, car, knife, blunt object, sharp object did not perpetrate the criminal act. The perpetrator is solely and exclusively responsible for his/her actions
The counterargument that will be raised is that this particular device, unlike planes trains and automobiles, has no useful purpose aside from killing, and therefore it is in the interest of the greater good to ban it. If, they believe, bump fire stocks were not available to the shooter, then the carnage would have been less.
I believe in preserving, protecting, and defending the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic, so help me God! The same oath that every member of Congress, the President, every member of the military, and so on, have to take before attaining the position involved.
The Second Amendment was included for a purpose: to enable the American people, citizens of the United States of America, formed and established following the laws of the U.S. Constitution, to defend the United States and its
citizens and naturalized citizens from tyranny at the hands of the people comprising government with the sole purpose of managing the United States of America in accordance with guidance from those that elected them to serve in their stead.
The Framers of our Constitution provided definite term lengths for president, members of the House of Representatives and the Senate for a specific purpose: to provide a tool for the use of citizens to use for choosing their representatives to work for them in the above positions, and, to either reelect them or remove them from office if they do not perform their duties according to the Constitution, their Oaths-of-Office, and promises made to those having elected them, their constituents.
Its high time citizens did their duty and pay attention to what is happening and compare that to the requirements demanded by the Constitution and stop voting blindly for someone because they belong to the same political party. Time to stop pulling a party lever, the dumbest thing any person can do. Pulling a party lever allows hangers on to slip into office where they could do great harm.
Political parties are not mentioned or provided for in the Constitution, nor forbidden to the States or to the people. That means if the States want to tolerate a formal group comprised of people with similar ideas, and the people support such a group, fine. No political parties involved in our central governing system.
Political parties, PACs, and other organizations are formed and run for the purpose of advancing their objectives, most frequently in response to the voices of the people who, in case you have forgotten, control government of the United States.
Time to take America back, people. Do your civic duty and get involved before you lose this precious gem, our Constitution and all that it provides us.
“How Do You Defend Bump Fire Stocks?”
WITH A HEARTY HI-HO AND STFU ! ! !
If that doesn’t work, then with a chest rig replete with 6 full AR mags and 7 M9 mags.
R E M E M B E R :
ANY TALK OF BANNING
A N Y T H I N G
AFTER THE LV INCIDENT
Means that an ISIS claimed, likely POS (D), told your representatives that YOU shouldn’t have _________ (fill in the blank)
AND YOUR REPRESENTATIVES TOOK HIS SIDE !
Why do people buy dirt bikes? To have fun doing what many consider dangerous things…jumping dunes, riding fast, etc etc. Should dirt bikes be banned? No. Why do people skydive? It’s fun and somewhat dangerous. Should skydiving being banned? No. How are bump stock defensible? It’s an expensive way for rednecks to simulate inaccurate automatic gun fire in a legally acceptable way in a safe place to make silly videos about how cool they are. Rubber bands, trigger fingers, belt loops, hand crank devices, binary triggers, normal triggers, handguards, pistol grips, and everything else would have to be banned to properly prohibit bump firing guns, arrrggghhhhh…….somebody please think of the children!!! How do you defend gun control? Remind people that it is really about government control over a witless and defenseless population is what they are incrementally seeking.
Just thinking out loud – where was the police SWAT sniper stationed in a helicopter, with a vantage point on the blown open window?
Banning in principal is a leftist philosophy. It proved itself useless throughout history. I see no reason to play the game by their rules.
Nothing but a jerk off would second guess the officers on the scene. He had stopped shooting and didn’t shoot again. Go ahead and what-if it till the cows come home, your chickenshit ass wasn’t there.
What if your kid/wife/parent bled to death while they waited, because the EMT’s aren’t getting anywhere near the area until police clear the room.
Here’s the biggest tactical error I see: Mandalay Bay security. Why wouldn’t they have ballistic shields? I can forgive schools to some degree for having lousy security – they are typically strapped financially. A casino raking in millions of dollars should have better security. This guy posted up his own security cameras and loaded up a dozen guns with tons of ammo and wasn’t noticed. Nobody had a ballistic shield or two available. Also, why the hell wouldn’t Mandalay Bay security have ARs at the ready? Maybe they did, but it sure looks like they didn’t get deployed. Get that gear into action ASAP when lives are being lost. Once the shooting stops, time is less vital.
A lot of TTAG wants to go on another cop-bashing spree, but it looks like *private security* really screwed the pooch. I worked Dunbar Armored, and we had lots of bullet resistant plexi-glass as well as armored vehicles and protected safes. Ballistic shields aren’t terribly expensive, either.
On to the next issue. If this shooter had rigged a fertilizer bomb, he could have blown up half the casino as well as the SWAT team and anyone else within the kill zone of the blast radius. If I have any strong suspicion of a bomb threat, I block off the area and call in the bomb robots and trained EOD personnel. There’s nothing I can do to defend against a bomb with any of my firearms. How much would you bet TTAG would be bashing SWAT if they set off a massive explosion?
If I’m interpreting this correctly, the security guard engaged, and got shot then all the other shooting ended?
Did the guard die?
It sounds like he stopped the shooter, even if he didn’t shoot him himself. We’ve seen before the shooter stops as soon as they are confronted and offs themself.
I’ll give up bump fire stocks when we address the problem that necessitated their invention in their first place. If we can get rid of the Hughes Amendment and the NFA, then bump fire stocks would go away on their own. Getting rid of the NFA will also make arm braces and those goofy pistol grip only “shotguns” go away on their own.
I’m very pro gun, but one thing I don’t like is mods or rifles that aren’t accurate or cause decreased accuracy.
If all a bump fire stock is is a toy to play with and waste ammo, but it’s only seemingly useful use is to spray a large crowd of people with bullets… I have to say I’d prefer bump stocks get put on the NFA in the same class as SBS and SBR’s. No Hughes amendment BS.
And if bump stocks get put on the NFA, then let’s have the Great Dealmaker Donald Trump negotiate removing suppressors.
I’d gladly trade bumpfire stocks for suppressors.
I would trade them for suppressors and reciprocity. Gladly.
were not even sure he used those yet they could have been planted there to have this effect just like the 90 round surefire mag
remember the movie jack reacher where he figured out it was a set up because there was just a bit too much incriminating evidence left at the scene
multiple stories are coming out now of multiple shooters from multiple windows room service for two people ex military guys saying the video sounded exactly like an m249 saw and on and on and on
dont forget in the early 90s dianne feinstein said she would have taken EVERYBODYS guns if she had the votes
THATS THEIR AGENDA
ITS NOT ABOUT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL
if they really cared one iota about human life they would consider this:
guns kill people in A YEAR in america what abortion does in about TWO WEEKS
ill move on my legitimate 2nd amendment stance when they move on their illegitimate 14th amendment stance
until then everything should be legal for law abiding citizens
You defend them by not going on tv and explaining how they work to people who dont care either way and want all look alike assult rifles banned anyways. It just makes there case stronger
Re: that shop in the lead picture: Guns AND Guitars??
Two of my favorite things! 😀
So a national newspaper had to go find someone who is not employed by them to get the pro 2A position. Does this mean that they don’t have a single writer who is pro gun on staff who is up to the task? I’m pretty sure it does.
I have a Barsony holster that I will not use. Nice quality materials and construction and carries reasonably well. However, it is way too tight on the draw and next to impossible to reholster.
The devil is in the details. What would the statutory definition of bump-fire device be?
Similarly: how would one determine what the lawful, vs unlawful, acceleration of rate of fire for any given semi-automatic firearm? Some people can use their booger hook to increase the rate of fire, as compared to someone else firing the same firearm.
Seems like knee-jerk, over-broad, overly ambiguous language. (Or in other words: par for the course for Diane “Mr. and Mrs. American: turn them all in!” Feinstein.
Dianne Frankenstein is fucking 84 years old. Jesus Christ would you just fucking die already? I’m not a mean man, just die peacefully in your sleep from old age. Take Soros and Bloomberg with you.
That’s an outright lie. I find it impossible to believe anyone would have sex with her.
Excellent. This is a personal responsibility issue. Looking for ANY excuse to not blame the person or persons responsible is just pushing the issue down the road.
They look like two oblivious adult diaper models standing there.
Bump fire stocks only exist because of gun control laws. As do cranks, binary triggers, Mossberg Shockwaves (wait till one gets used in a major crime) etc. And every California AR-15 workaround ever devised were responses to gun control.
In fact, all criminal incidents of gun use are a big “EFF you” to gun control.
Wait till they find out that semi-autos can be bump fired with any additional devices with some practice.
At best the could ban any device capable of pulling a trigger faster than the speed of a human finger.
We then trot out Jerry Miculek.
The best defense is that gun laws don’t work. And there is no reason for anyone to give up anything for some meaningless, ineffective ban of one thing or another.
Except as provided in paragraph (2), on and after the date that is 180 days after the date of enactment of this subsection, it shall be unlawful for any person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or af-fecting interstate or foreign commerce,
And here we go again. What if the device is manufactured and sold and kept within a single state? Didn’t this come up with a suppressor case recently? The federal government cannot (Constitutionally speaking) regulate intrastate commerce. Though most of what the fed does violates the interstate commerce clause because we allowed it so.
“as a conservative who believes gay couples should be able to defend their [legal] marijuana crop with machine guns, my answer is “no.” ”
Hate to break it to you but if you’re for gay marriage and drug legalization you are not a conservative. Welcome to the Libertarian party though.
Lot of NON-Americans on that comment page. They don’t get a say until they conquer us, and I’ll throw more effort behind preventing them. And their overt efforts will be responded to trebly.
The real issue is that too many 2nd Amendment proponents assume that gun control advocates are acting in good faith and honestly believe banning things will help. Some of them might be under this delusion, but I’d wager that the vast majority are not. They want you nothing less than enslaved and/or dead. Just look at the vitriol that is spewed on any noteworthy 2nd Amendment defender’s social media. You can’t argue or reason with these people because safety is just the respectable facade they use to cover their true intentions.
After careful consideration, I agree with the “shall not be infringed” response.
Any argument that we make for or against BLANK becomes a useful argument against individual rights in general. It seems to me that this is a trap that we should avoid completely. Its more productive to argue in support of individual rights than to dissect portions of those rights.
It seems that mass murder is a fact of life. People are dead. We ask “why” and “how” as though the answers will somehow make it easier to accept the fact or prevent their repetition.
Why? For Allah? Revenge? Depression? No reason at all?
How? With a gun or a knife? A truck, or bomb or airplane? With poison or sickness?
Man is violent and unpredictable and this is certainly a tragedy. I risk diminishing the human element by supposing that “this too will pass.” But history does not remember 50 or 100 dead. History remembers 6 million and 10 million dead. Those were not the victims of a single man, but victims of a government that dehumanized man by removal of the rights of the individual.
Therefore I choose to avoid the trap of arguing the finer points of individual liberty, and instead opt for the “all or nothing” approach.
Feinstein’s been at this sh!t since I was a kid. And I just turned 40 this summer. I guess I will never get to stop having to see her pugnacious face.
I guess they better ban belt loops and index fingers as well. After all, the same basic result can be had with that method. Ignorant idiots. Just ignorant to the inth degree. But they are “doing something”. And it looks and feels so good. Pfftttt…. morons.
But they don’t want to ban guns. I will say I like this, it’s at least honest.
As I predicted!!!!
Not impressed with my (soon to be some
one elses) Armscor Citadel 9mm 1911. Not accurate, one mag fell apart. Merry go round of company names and phone numbers to get mag replaced. If you want an accurate and reliable EDC 9mm 1911, get a Springfield EMP4C. Luv mine.
T H A N K Y O U ! ! !
Daniel in the Lion’s Den, Francis Scott Key, Rocky, got nothin on ya ! : )
Thank you for standing up for all of us.
Sincerely.
You did well. In these circumstances, it was much better to have someone knowledgeable illustrate the device. Your statement “It’s not practical” was also appropriate.
I do have one small criticism. Media is about generating revenue, first and foremost. I’ve loathed Carter Evans, ever since he covered the loss of a hotshot crew. He asked the freshly widowed wife “So, what do you think was going through your husband’s mind, as he burned alive?”
Read the fine print. Don’t ever trust a bill sponsored by a democrat to actually do what it claims to do.
We shouldn’t ban bump fire stocks for the same reason that France shouldn’t ban trucks.
I think this is pretty good. I did have to reread the sentence about passing gun laws to keep guns out of criminals’ hands, but otherwise, good stuff.
I know I posted on a previous article but we’re being sold out as we speak.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/04/sen-dianne-feinstein-and-democrats-propose-narrow-gun-bill-ban-bump-stocks-after-vegas-shooting/731611001/
Anyone from Texas, primary and get rid of John Cornyn.
Should have had a live fire demonstration with them shooting it. First the full auto, then with the slide fire with the heaviest, grittiest, longest reset possible trigger on a needlessly heavy 12+lb mall ninja tacticooled out evil looking ar15 with low powered ammo then have them film themselves fail miserably at getting it to function right.
That way they could go from all giddy to show their viewers how easy it would be to convert your standard ar15 to a semi-full-auto-emulating-black-weapon-of-death-thingy only to be deflated and have to edit all that out, and we could giggle and your unedited version. Not like they’d be able to tell the difference, probably the first time those reporters saw an ar15 in person.
since i don’t live in the pos dipstick or district i cannot send a kindly word letter to thank him for stupid selfless comments
It is obvious they do not intend this to be an enforced law as there is no grandfather clause and no one is going to set up a confiscation and compensation committee to handle that since it would make all owners in violation of the law. This is the same reason that the CA mag ban law has not gone into effect.
i’ve got an idea people lets ban the 5 amendment lets see how fast that would be shot down
Congrats! I just saw video, no audio (see how easy that was for them), from the demo 3 times here in Hell Paso. All were tied to stories about how dangerous pieces of plastic are and that the weapons they are used on should be banned.
Good job providing new “stock” video to the enemy!
Once, just once, I want one of these faux-luminaries to tell us plebs and troglodytes what they plan to do about the millions of “assault weapons” already in circulation once if pass their desired ban.
Do they plan to confiscate them? If so, methinks they have NO IDEA how much that would cost. Could you imagine the man hours it would take to hit up EVERY FFL to pour through 4473s…and that’s just to locate them. Taking them would be at a minimum herculean, at best impossible and at worst Orwellian.
If they don’t plan on confiscation…then they’ve accomplished nothing.
“Could you imagine the man hours it would take to hit up EVERY FFL to pour through 4473s …”
There’s no need, legal firearm ownership is in various federal databases. And that’s not speculation, that’s a fact.
This is a great counterpoint to that argument:
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-central-planning-solution-to-evil.html
Basically that Gun Control is Central Planning Solution to Evil.
“Blaming evil is an excuse to do nothing in the face of tens of thousands of gun deaths a year.”
There are all sorts of deaths due to things that rarely save someone’s life, as privately-held firearms do every day of the year. Bathtubs- probably fairly rarely save someone’s life. Swimming pools. Heroin. Drunk driving probably saves a fraction of a percent of a percent of the lives it takes in any given year (really screwed up situation with someone suffering a life-threatening medical event with the only other guy around having had one too many with no cellphone is imaginable, but I doubt it’s ever actually happened)
Why not focus on those rather than making the rest of us more vulnerable?
So there was no emergency after 10:21 PM? The subject was still in the room armed to the teeth and the police did not know if he was alive or dead. And they waited an hour to breach the door? The situation is active until you subdue the subject whether he is shooting or not. He was dead but the police did not know. Can somebody from the LVPD SWAT explain their protocol?
one time a car load of extremely drunken young girls were travelling on a busy road at a high rate of speed when a hornet flew into their auto. they all calmly leaned away from the insect until it found it’s way back out.
this was in direct contrast to the same group sober, where the driver’s hands immediately came off of the wheel as the entire group shrieked and desperately flailed at the insect, rising out of their seats with no regard to oncoming traffic.
so drunk driving is only safer in a car full of girls if a stinging insect threatens.
Well if this thing ever passed (and it won’t) I would imagine my bumpstocks would have an unfortunate canoeing accident.
That is if I don’t decide to sell it first to a MS13 tated up dude.
Oh, for the love of God, will someone PLEASE do the world a favor and throw a bucket of water on this witch already? Jeeze freaking Louise, I’m so fucking sick and tired of having to listen to this woman’s bullshit. >:-/
“I used to think gun control was the answer. My research told me otherwise.”
She drops an even bigger bombshell on Twitter :
““Gun policy is the issue I’ve had to revise my position on the most and the one I feel that I was actively mislead on.”
https://twitter.com/LeahLibresco/status/914876399781076997
*That*, POTG, is *winning*.
Forward that tweet to every anti you know…
I would defend them thusly:
“Whatever gadgets you desire to ban must be defined in writing by their function, otherwise the “bumpfire” stock will just come back under a new name, like “firebump”.
But bumping fire can be done with no gadgets down against the hip, or by a crank type device, or by a spring, or by an electric vibrator attached to a glove, like the ill-conceived “Autoglove”.
Unless and until you stand willing to ban human hips and fingers, springs, and vibrators, all such efforts are doomed to failure, and all such efforts are not only useless, but a distraction from other things that WILL work, but will remain undone because of this kind of foolishness.
No wonder the left hates Ben Shapiro, he shreds their arguments effectively.
There are a few compelling anti-gun arguments. This isn’t fucking one of them. Alex Yablon is a fucking dumbass. I would be more concerned with what Evan DeFillipis and Devin Hughes have to say, and even then, those guys think that because you are at an increased risk for suicide once you own a gun, that the gov’t should protect you from yourself. If you’re worried about being overcome with the desire to kill yourself, don’t buy a gun, and don’t fucking tell us who want to otherwise.
He is ISIS or ISIS set him up broke in his room did the shooting then made him look like he offed himself after the shooting and left during the hour it took swat to get there.
By his own words and the way he is dancing around questions and obliquely answering some of them, the sheriff is clearly holding back a lot of information. He seems to deliberately saying things by not saying them, and implying that they already know about his motives, affiliations, and accomplices (if he had any). He may have acted alone on Sunday night, but I don’t believe he was a “lone wolf”.
Just as our forefathers that fled Europe from the Monarchy…For Religious beliefs, and Freedom…So, now I say…It maybe time for Us to move on to another New World Colony….Only, where is it, and how do I get there to start a new !
Feinstein…god…
Those of us in San Francisco remember when this bitch was mayor. She made a big deal of turning in a .38 caliber revolver as a sign of her commitment to gun control.
Until someone found out that she had a license for TWO .38 caliber revolvers – and the whole thing was a PR stunt.
We also know she’s the most corrupt politician since Hermann Goring. Look up Hetch Hetchy Reservoir some time.
“Three percent of Americans already own 50 percent of the guns and can let loose military-level assaults on any venue they choose: concerts, malls, elementary schools.”
Almost anyone could let loose a massive, deadly attack on concerts, malls, elementary schools, etc. without a single firearm. There are plenty of readily available alternate methods for injuring and killing hundreds of people.
Spending huge amounts of our limited resources trying to prevent the next mass attack is a fool’s errand. And eliminating rights in a desperate attempt to prevent the next attack is just plain wrong.
They’re really going to ban physics? With all the DIY and no tools needed bump methods out there this is absurd to the highest order.
I am sick about the loss of life in LV. I am also sick about the success of the fascists’ successful boa constrictor tactic of disarmament that continues to gain ground. A ban on semi autos will be the end game of a bump stock ban as you don’t need a bump stock to bump fire. It’s all Kabuki Theater.
The author is clearly mentally unsound.
I can’t believe all of “us” that I have read over the past few days are calling for a new regulation and blaming an object!
In case your not aware this clearly shows that you have lost and are willing too accept there mindset and depletion of your rights one by one.
If “we” give on this…we are surely going to lose it all.
Someone needs to explain to these people: a bump-fire stock does not turn a semi-automatic rifle into an automatic rifle. A bump-fire stock only assist in firing the semi-automatic rifle faster. The operator must still pull the trigger each individual time to fire each individual round.
The worst thing NRA can do is give cover to spineless republicans. Don’t do it.
Given up, no. But I’ve never considered the NRA a one stop shop, they simply don’t do enough to fight all the anti gun forces out there, especially at the state level. I’m also a member of NAGR and GOA, as well as a local entity OFF here in Oregon. If you’re not happy with the NRA, speak up and push for changes in policy, you know kinda like voting for Trump?
When investigating any murder (or group of murders), investigators use victimology to create a profile of those targeted. Then by identifying the targets’ profile, they can build the framework of a profile of the assailant.
This event shouldn’t be any different. In doing so, one could infer he was a hard-left-leaning anti-gun anti-conservative using guns in an effort to vilify them at the same time targeting those he ideologically opposes. See Christopher Dorner’s motive for an example.
shouldn’t the hotel and the event manager of the concert be sued over the lack of thinking and security?
I believe that this is a valid theory, and one that is not without precedent. It has not been unheard of over the years for those on the left to falsify just the types of acts that they say the right is inclined to do, but somehow don’t. There was a spate of them after Trumps election. People have spray painted racial epitaphs on their own walls, made up stories about attacks that never happened etc. This may well be a grandiose version of that. If it was, it was well played.
How about we BAN photos of this douche bag? ASSault! My beautiful eyes!???? Is Jabba the Hut still claiming NRA membership?!?
Now use “The Time Tunnel” and fast forward to the year 2021.
Amazing how so many, so called “defenders of the 2A”, really don’t support rapid fire gun ownership for poor people. But the government can and does aim machine guns in the direction of the voters now. In the year 2021.
Why is there a “Standing Army” in the nations a capitol now??? In the year 2021.
“Ken Cuccinelli Claims Pelosi Asked For ‘Crew-Manned Machine Guns’ In Washington”
https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/19/ken-cuccinelli-nancy-pelosi-crew-manned-machine-guns/