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Question of the Day: Is Anti-Semitism Good for Gun Rights?

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New York City Mayor and civilian disarmament jefe Michael Bloomberg (courtesy ionewsone.wordpress.com)

“MAIG [Mayors Against Illegal Guns] provided significant financial support for Sen. John Morse and Sen. Angela Giron, recalled in September, including a $350,000 donation from Bloomberg himself,” dailycaller.com reports. A fact that recall organizers used to their advantage. It’s deja vu all over again with the recall effort against Senator Evie Hudak. And now in the Virginia gubernatorial race. The NRA’s flagging Bloomberg cash injection into gun rights battles in California cities and towns. In all cases, pro-gun folks are playing the “big city out-of-state politician interfering with Colorado politics” card to major effect Not to mention the fact that Mayor Bloomberg is a Jewish big city out-of-state politician interfering with Colorado politics. Actually, let’s talk about that . . .

Did anti-semitism play any part in the anti-Bloomberg, anti-Morse and Giron backlash? It wasn’t mentioned overtly but Hizzoner’s moniker leaves no doubt as to his ethnicity.

As a Jew who lives by the words “never again,” as someone who views Bloomberg, Feinstein and Schumer as traitors to their people, I gotta say it. With Bloomberg the de facto head of the civilian disarmament movement, anti-semitism could be working in favor of The People of the Gun.

Your thoughts?

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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    • I will touch this conversation ! I am tired of every liberal, progressive Jew, who for what ever reason, wants to tell me how to live my life. Or any other progressive POS for that matter. If they wish to be an easy mark, so be it, but stay out of my life !!

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    • Agreed….NO! and I find his assertion a distasteful one at best.

      I imagine there is a laundry-list of reasons for the backlash, and I would dare say that Anti-Semitism is probably numbered on that list, along with a host of other superfluous reasons why people do shit.. But, its going to be very low on that list, and to shine a spotlight on that issue is to give it more credence than it deserves and insult those that hold their views, and fight this fight, for nobler reasons that racial hatred.

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      • +1
        BDub said exactly what I was going to say.

        I wouldn’t care if his name was Hitler, or some nice and comforting name! He is on the wrong side of an issue that I care about greatly. So I will oppose him every way I can. (Although, I think he would have less success spreading his fascist views if his name were Hitler.)

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  1. And we all hate barry cause he’s black. Or is it cause he’s the worst president ever? I can’t speak for the other 3 gun owners in America, but for me it’s about your stand on gun control. I don’t care if you’re a Conehead, just leave my guns alone.

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    • Exactly. America’s supposed to have a race relations problem, yet we’ve elected a mixed race president twice in a row.

      Antisemitism simply isn’t as rampant in America as it used to be, so I wouldn’t expect it to be a big enough reason to make people hate Bloomberg. He’s got enough going for him 😉

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  2. Anti-semitism has very little or nothing to do with it. If this were Eastern Europe I might think differently, but I don’t think it’s at all widespread here in America.

    A scumbag is a scumbag.

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  3. I had no clue any of them but Bloomberg was a Jew! No, it’s probably not good if it’s on that basis, but just because we oppose them and they happen to be Jewish doesn’t mean that I hate Jews.

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  4. I do find it academically interesting that most of the top gun controllers in the country (Bloomberg, Feinstein, Schumer, Lautenburg, et. al.) have Jewish surnames. Beyond that, I don’t care at all – wouldn’t matter if they were pagans or neo-Nazis; just keep your damned hands off our civil rights.

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  5. I didn’t know Bloomberg was Jewish until this article. Those disarmers who are Jewish are probably, to a man, ethnic but not practicing Jews.

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    • That’s not what matters, what matters is how they talk. Its all about the Jewish identity.

      Though you should remember whitey, race is a social construct, but mixed race children > white children, but mixed race children=black children. Also they’re more beautiful than whites.

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  6. Again this may go back to a causality question. The outcome of this study was that reports of injuries are up. Does that mean injuries are up, or does it just mean that the reporting of them has become more thorough (due to technology, policies, or whatever)?

    It reminds me VERY much of a recent story that came out about continually increasing reports of “near misses” among aircraft — as in passenger planes — in the U.S. That was defined as two planes getting within X distance of each other while flying (and I recall the distance was somewhat large, like a couple miles or something). ANYWAY… the headlines were scary but the real take-home from the FAA was that the incident rate has NOT actually increased. Rather, our technology has increased where these incidents are noticed, verified, and logged automatically. We’re seeing basically all of them now, instead of seeing only some of them and not even logging all of those because it was done manually and not a big priority. So while it looks like these “near misses” have been increasing, it’s actually only the reporting of them that has been increasing.

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  7. I doubt racial or religious differences matter to the vast majority of those people as much as the cultural ones. Bloomberg is a meddler and a carpetbagger, which is still a grave insult in VA (at least the parts more than 10 miles from DC).

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    • “Carpetbagger”! That was the word I was looking for! And his majesty the mayor is one, in the worst, most evil, most vile sort of way. His picture should be next to the definition of the word in all dictionaries.

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  8. Absolutely not. No hatred of any kind is good for gun rights. Except hatred of laws that violate the second amendment. 🙂

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  9. Just as there are pedophile priests, cops who are thiefs, and lesbians with dildos, there will be Jewish people with bad memories.
    Honestly, I think Bloomberg is just a power mad psycho.
    That’s why there are words like conundrum and oxymoron.

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  10. I have nothing against Jewish people, but to understand their contemporary role in American gun control politics and the stereotypes against them you need look no further than Communism for the reason behind it.

    Communism was very popular among Jewish people in the twentieth century, there is no denying that it was in competition with Zionism for some time. Jewish people have a history of fulfilling roles as technocrats going way back because they could do certain things Christians or Muslims could not. Men like Bloomberg today are every bit as receptive to Marxism as they once were. They certainly do not represent all Jewish people, just one undercurrent within that community.

    So I don’t think it is anti-Semitic at all, not until someone starts shouting “Hail Victory!” and goose stepping.

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  11. 20 yrs old is a child, seriously?

    By 20 I was married, owned 2 vehicles, had my own place, joined the military, and was on my first deployment to the sandbox, in what f^cking world does that sound like a child…?

    Maybe Mr. Boston medical student and his Harvard advisor were still having mommy and daddy wipe their asses for them at 20, but where I come from we refer to someone who’s 20 yrs of age as a “grown ass man/woman”.

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  12. I don’t really expect to see NFA 1934 overturned right now; but I agree with those who think it’s high time to attack the real issues. First, it’s time to roll back Volkmer-McLure’s prohibition on newly manufactured machineguns. Then the CLEO signature issue can be addressed. The whole idea that a regulatory agency sets it’s own laws to be enforced is absurd. I am no fan of the weak-kneed NRA, but right now is the time for them to finally mobilize and militarize and hit the mattresses. Break some unnecessary agencies down and do away with them.

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  13. Speaking from firsthand experience, I can tell you that the sound of a pistol going off in the same house, through a couple of walls and a closed door isn’t as loud as you might think. Is it noticeable? Hell yes. Got my attention. Is it earth-shatteringly loud? Nope. Could I imagine a sound sleeper not being woken up by it? Absolutely.

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  14. Wild west? I seem to recall reading some years ago that there was a total of around 45 homicides in all the Kansas cowtowns during the entire trail drive period. Doubtless some would have survived with modern medicine. On the other hand, you could leave your home unlocked and women could walk the streets unmolested. Bring back the Wild West.

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  15. The problem with Bloomie is certainly not his religion. His views on the scope of government power are the issue, and on that one it was demonstrated clearly that he is an outlier with respect to the average Coloradan. As others have mentioned, national gun-control advocates inserting themselves into local and state level election is noxious regardless of their choice of worship. I’d expect that Coloradans and Virginians (outside the sphere of beltway influence) don’t appreciate his intrusion into their political processes. Seeing as how thus far he’s been political poison for everyone he has chosen to support, I hope he continues on the same course for as long as he is able.

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  16. Most politicians worship at the alter of power and control. Religion is just another means to an end. I did not know that Bloomberg was a practicing Jew, and honestly it has no basis on my rejection of his politics on gun control. For that matter I rarely see the religious viewpoints of a politician relevant unless said politician makes their religious views part of their political platform.

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  17. I didn’t know he was Jewish, and I couldn’t care less. He hates guns, and has contempt for gun owners. He’s also a big city, nanny-state, control freak, who uses his millions to force people to conform to his social beliefs.

    I can’t stand Bloomberg

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  18. Apparently Texas CHL issuers aren’t all that bright if they issued a license to Bob Saget wearing a bad excuse for Groucho Marx costume.

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  19. Bullied every day from 4th grade to 10th grade, had a .410, a .22, and a 12 gauge on my gun rack on my wall as a teen and I never thought about shooting anything but small game, clays, and deer. My parents may not have been parents of the year but the .410 single shot I received for my 11th birthday kept me happy and probably kept me out of trouble…

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  20. The fact that Bloomberg is a Jew (news to me) means NOTHING to me. I can’t imagine why someone in Colorado felt they needed bring up that fact. Seems almost…counter productive.

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  21. Locking up guns is a great thing to do.

    Nevertheless, locking up guns will not stop a spree killer!!! Aside from the myriad ways that a spree killer could acquire guns (locked or otherwise), there are countless ways that a spree killer could quickly, easily, inexpensively, and efficiently kill a lot of people.

    A couple chains, locks, a match, and a gallon of gasoline is all it takes to kill a huge group of people in a room with only one or two exits. A speeding car plowing into a group of people is capable of incredible carnage. Get the picture yet?

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  22. It’s like if you disagree with the policies of dear leader you just HAVE to be racist. The only way a person could possibly disagree with Bloomberg’s “common sense” proposals is being an anti-semite, Also, let’s add in being against terrorists makes you an islamaphobe.

    Call me all of those enough time and it loses it’s effect.

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  23. Hi, Neon Tommy.

    That’s a nice letter your “parents” at the Annenberg School wrote for you. Unfortunately, you and your parents seem to have been reading too many press releases from progressive “gun safety” organizations.

    You see, the truth is that parents everywhere actually ARE responsible with guns and make good decisions regarding guns and their children daily. More now than ever, in fact.

    There are fewer accidental deaths from firearms now than at any time in the last 100+ years. The national murder rate (with or without firearms) is at a 40-year low. Violent crime of all kinds is also at a 40-year low.

    And yet here you are, talking down to all 100 million gun owners as if they’re no different than the couple dozen people who made it into the national news by doing something stupid this year. Here’s a suggestion: take that broad brush you’re trying to tar us with and shove it where the sun don’t shine.

    Oh yeah, and one more thing. As someone who endured bullying through nearly all my school years by smarmy, supercilious twits like you and your children, I’ve taught my children how to be responsible around guns and how to deal with schoolyard bullies (the solution doesn’t involve guns, but it isn’t pleasant). And we also know how to see through stupid arguments like yours.

    Thanks for your opinion, Tommy. Now go tell your mama she wants you.

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  24. Liberal Jews are often the most anti-God, anti-Torah people out there. The sad thing is for right & wrong Jews are still putting Ha Goyim to shame. Look at political theorists and leaders of the last couple of centuries – a disproportionate number are Jews. The political stripes vary but there are Jews at the top of most of them . . . same w/ science, economics, and almost every other endeavor that involves academic rigor.

    Leaders are readers – and any kid who can learn Hebrew before he can ride all the rides at 6 flags stands a good chance of leading something.

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  25. I despise these elitist, gun fearing politicians, but that has nothing to do with their Jewish heritage!
    As a Christian, I’ve always felt I owed the Jews a debt of gratitude. No Jews = no Christianity.

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  26. I’m calling BS on the bullying argument. When the prior generation (like me) were bullied, our fathers’ told us to punch the bully in the nose as hard as we could and the bullying would stop. So that’s what we did. And the bullying stopped. And many times, said bully and said bullied would make their peace and be fine. Try that today and the bullied kid would get expelled.

    Or do you think that modern leftists only want to prevent adults from defending themselves?

    We are raising a generation of victims, courtesy of teachers and administrators who want boys to wear frilly panties. Victims can only take so much until they explode.

    Kids didn’t create the bullying problem. Schools did. But childhood violence — apart from the reaction to bullying — is hardly new. Ever heard of Leopold and Loeb?

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    • It’s called gender neutral parenting. Boys are allowed to cross dress, play with dolls, and basically act like girls in fact they are encouraged to do so… Girls aren’t encouraged to be like boys though. My ex wife is a big believer in this style of parenting needless to say I have had tons of problems out of my son when he comes back from his mom’s.

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    • I’m right with you on that.

      The whole bullying meme is a way to squash independent thought and action. If you can’t use certain words or do certain actions, you lose the ability to express or act in certain ways and that’s what’s desireable.

      No one cares about bullying; what many folks in power want is a pliant population that does what their told and sits down and shuts up otherwise.

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  27. Physical discipline (ie spanking) increases the chance the child will be aggressive and is likely to create a bully. Also disrespectful and ignorant. It is unnecessary. These are facts from studies of thousands of families. Aka better than the inevitable anecdotal evidence people will respond to be with.

    Want to stop child violence? Teach them it is only to be used in defense or consensual sport. Let them retreat or fight back from bullies (neither are allowed in schools). Use physical force only when necessary ie to physically restrain the from hurting another or keep them from danger.

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    • … so say the studies of childless “intellectuals” who know jack about real world parenting.

      THE ironic thing is, those parents that don’t discipline their kids (spanking or otherwise) seem to have the rudest most disrespectful kids who feel entitled you meet.

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  28. Let me say first that I believe open carry should always be an option and a personal choice. The issues I have with it are as follows. 1: The social and political climate in this country right now is so divided between pro and anti gun factions, I wouldn’t be surprised if some liberal gun hater sees an open carry and decides to cause trouble and accuse the carrier of pointing it at him or others, unsafe handling, or some other violation just to score points for his faction. This episode was kind of in that genre. Police takes such accusations seriously, as seen lately in TX and elsewhere. 2: Some lowlife sees you with a pistol on your hip, figures, hey, where there’s one there’s more, follows you home, and either waits until no one is home or blindsides you, cleans you out, and if you’re lucky, you’re still living. I’m out of my house a lot and I can’t carry all my guns with me. My thought is, if I don’t flaunt it, they don’t know for sure I have it.

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  29. I know a guy that went to prison for 2 years for shooting a pellet gun at cars on the freeway. Felony conviction, lost his wife, daughters and house because he was bored.

    At the same time he was doing this a 16yo was shot in the stomach as he was walking. If they could have proven that one on him he’d still be in prison.

    I’d say those teen agers got off light. Especially since Montana is a shall issue state.

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  30. Kids now a days need a dose of physical and mental toughness along with self reliance. The only way to do that is let em fight it out amongst themselves like a lot of us did when we were youngsters. My parents told me I might take an ass whippin but I had damn well better stand up for myself. I tell my son the same thing if he has to then throw down you might lose but it’s better than not trying. Yall may think I’m a dick but if his soccer team don’t win the championship he don’t get a trophy I don’t agree with the everyone wins participation trophy I wasn’t raised that way.

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  31. Running errands, pop in and ascertain that ‘someone with a gun is just hanging around’ then who was it that conditioned you to associate [see gun and think criminal] and tell everyone quickly? CNN or FOX? If the man with a gun was trying to get someone else with a gun noticed, then the busy-body Nazi snitch got wtf? he should have gotten- A grain of sense would suggest that one displaying a weapon knows it and has their reasons without telegraphing their intention to do anything terrible as maybe rob a Bank- Sad story of more idiots luvn the Uniforms and wanting to be a NWO hero- OH Thank You Sir! Will that be a ticket to Mars or a Double Suite, 100 TH floor West-Wing with Private Climate Control and Solar Imaging in the Denver DUMB for your service in finding dem terrorist and worthless eaters- gwt

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  32. Anti-Semitism isn’t even the issue here. Both sides of this “debate” — which our side won in 1791 anyway but that’s apparently completely besides the point — need to stop with all this Moving The Goal Posts fallacy nonsense.

    What is in question are the positions of DiFi, Loonberg, and Schmucker on civil rights, particularly the right to keep and bear arms.

    The only reason why their heritage is even mentioned is because of the history of “their” people, which is in direct conflict with their decidedly anti-rights, anti-Humanist, anti-self defense, anti-self reliance, regressive, fascistic Statist agenda. I put “their” in quotes because, as mentioned above, they are traitors to their people, because their people would not have pushed for this. By extension, they are traitors to all of us, as is everyone who seeks to diminish our individual civil liberties for any reason.

    Their views are wrong. The science has in fact settled that fact conclusively, and beyond the shadow of a doubt. They know that their views are wrong. We know that they know. We know that they know that we know. Everybody knows.

    What matters is that they simply don’t give a shit, and they don’t give a shit on purpose. They’re only in it for the money. It’s always been all about the money for them. It always will be all about the money for them.

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  33. Anyone else sick of that tired meme? “I’m not responsible so be responsible for me” won’t get you out of your parent’s basement. I’m sure the preaching will cease once that kid finishes his first shift at McDonalds trying to pay off his student loan for a worthless degree. The problem with college kids is they have no clue how anything in the real world works yet think they have all the answers.

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  34. This is somewhat skewed. Saying responsible, law-abiding citizens that take proactive measures to protect themselves and their families are less likely than the general population average to be convicted of manslaughter seems like a no-brainer. I’m not saying people should not carry or get training, but not everyone can carry. Most people quite simply aren’t up to snuff and would be one freakout away from handing a gun over to a criminal or leaving it on a restroom counter. Seriously, look at the people around you in public, I’m surprised anyone trusts some of them with car keys or a cell phone. I wish everyone were up to the same standard, although then pretty much everything would be different, but it’s just a wish.

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  35. These Law Enforcement courses are not a joke. I just completed my second school and watched the instructor drop 2 students by day 3…a 3rd on day 4 and 2 more who could not pass the shooting assessment on day 5. The reason a high percentage pass is because you MUST pre qualify and they do verify the documentation you submit. This division of the NRA has no political association with the politics of the NRA civilian side and these instrutors are ALL previous Law Enforcement, take their job very serious and have a high level of integrity

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  36. Would or could Brittany use tools such as a baseball bat or a knife/scissors to protect her young students and perhaps her own young children someday from an attacker? If not then she needs to work on herself before she works with children.

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  37. Well Brittany, that is perfectly fine, if you don’t feel comfortable with weapons then you can continue on as you have been.

    However, do not assume that others feel the same way and insist on imposing your will on everyone else.

    I couldn’t teach 30 snot nose kids everyday without losing my damn mind, but that doesn’t mean someone else can’t or shouldn’t, see how that works…

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  38. I think the rates are even lower. You compare the murder rate per year in TX to the rate over 16 years for CHL holders. So, a better comparison might be 1.875 (30/16) CHL holder murders per year, which would give you a rate more than 10-fold lower, more like .044/100K if my quick calcs are right. Then, that’s murders + manslaughter for CHL holders. Is the general Texas figure just murders but not manslaughters? If so, that would make the comparison even more extreme.

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  39. My Opinion is that Bloomberg does not care about the people anyway. His only goal is the legacy of gun control he leaves across America. No Constitution! The Government in control of the people. Thus, once his laws are in effect in Virginia, the people are nothing but fodder, trash to be thrown away.

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  40. Made comment in April 2013, have had another seven months with rifle, Mossberg 5.56 bolt, I shoot almost every weekend. The rifle bolt is working great, no feed problems with metal ar-mags. I have shot at the 300 yard mark, rifle is still holding great groups, still working on my skills to move out to 500 yards. at 300 shot group are 2 in to 2 in half with 5.56 ammo. looking to go with the Mossberg .308 bolt next.

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