Dr. Jennifer Rager-Kay
Dr. Jennifer Rager-Kay (courtesy Twitter)
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Dr. Jennifer Rager-Kay
Dr. Jennifer Rager-Kay (courtesy Twitter)

Dr. Jennifer Rager-Kay must have missed the part of her medical school training in which they covered the Hippocratic Oath and the doctor’s duty to first, do no harm. The Selinsgrove (Pennsylvania) Area School Board member took to a private Facebook group recently and vowed to take deadly aim at anyone who approaches her without wearing a face mask.

From pennlive.com . . .

Dr. Jennifer Rager-Kay posted the comment in reaction to a picture of anti-lockdown protesters last week in Harrisburg, many of whom are not wearing masks. She wrote: “I find it interesting that the largest group of the participants in the anti-lockdown protest and refusing to wear masks in public as they see it as a violation of their constitutional rights are among those against a form of gun regulations.

“As a concerned carry-permitted gun owner, if you refuse to wear a mask and try to come within 6 feet of me or my family, I will exercise the same constitutional rights to shoot you.”

Private discussion or not, like just about everything on a social media site, the good doctor’s intemperate threat was shared and locals aren’t amused. Some have called for her to resign from the school board. In response to the kerfuffle, the raging Rager-Kay — a self-described “lay minister” — issued a standard non-apology apology.

The medical doctor who last year ran unsuccessfully as a Democrat for the state House seat that became vacant when Republican Fred Keller was elected to Congress on Monday issued this statement: “I would like to publicly apologize to anyone offended by my recent post regarding the hypocrisy of those who refuse to wear face masks yet walk around openly carrying guns.

Dr. Jennifer Rager-Kay
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Dr. Rager-Kay then sought to define the threat of death or bodily harm down, offering this justification for vowing to kill anyone who could potentially infect her or her loved ones with the coronavirus.

“I am in a profession where the threat of someone approaching me not wearing a mask while in the midst of a pandemic is equivalent to the threat against my life. Just as it would be if they approached me with their gun drawn and pointed at me.

A jury of her peers would no doubt see it that way in a court of law if she ever made good on her promise. But wait, she wasn’t finished rationalizing her death threat.

“Bioterrorism is, however, a real threat and refusal to prevent and/or the intentional release or dissemination of biological agents by not wearing a mask during a global pandemic is a clear example. I am sorry if my words were offensive or derogatory in any way. My concern and compassion for human life got the best of me.”

Uh huh. It was her unremitting compassion for human life that caused her to threaten to kill others.

Dr. Rager-Kay would like the local community to know that she made the threat against approaching strangers with all due care and affection.

“My post was described as hateful, but hateful suggests a lack of love. And to me, lack of love is demonstrated by refusing to wear a mask out of love for those you encounter.”

Rager-Kay says she has no plans to resign from the local school board.

 

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    • From her “apology”:

      ****
      “I would like to publicly apologize to anyone offended by my recent post regarding the hypocrisy of those who refuse to wear face masks yet walk around openly carrying guns. […] My concern and compassion for human life got the best of me. […] My post was described as hateful, but hateful suggests a lack of love. And to me, lack of love is demonstrated by refusing to wear a mask out of love for those you encounter.”

      ****
      So… #sorrynotsorry?

      • She doesn’t mean this apology.

        Shame on you, you ignorant, arrogant, cowardly mollusk.

        Does it HURT to have a brain that small?

        • Yes, it does sometimes hurt, thank you for asking. But then I consider how much smaller yours is, and I feel better about it.

        • The MOST EFFECTIVE tool against her is for Pennsylvania residents to file a compliant with the Pennsylvania Medical Board. Her snarky non-apology indicates that she thinks she was justified in making such a death threat. Her mental stability and psychological suitability for the practice of medicine should be examined by the Board.

        • Frank List and Rager-K highlight a very good yet subtle point often overlooked by non-observant laypeople: A Democrat’s greatest flaw is that we are too humble and love too much.

          Eric Swalwell 2020

      • The medical board? 😂 They won’t do anything to her. She already has a license to legally kill. Doctors kill people daily through malpractice and negligence and are never held responsible. They protect their own.

        • AFAIK, Medical malpractice is still the leading cause of unnatural death in the USA, by a longshot…

        • Due to contrary belief and IFAIK (is chicken shit) considering how abundant resources are today. Medical malpractice IS NOT the leading cause of unnatural causes of death in this country. Seriously?

      • We’ll be seeing you in prison soon, just where you belong! One less idiot to deal with!

      • I have a pet peeve: when someone says, “I would like to…”, I always ask, then why don’t you and not say, “I would like to…”. JUST DO IT!!!!

      • She made Direct threats to kill, unlike the guy in prison for saying he has a bullet !
        A true Dr. who is not politically motivated would say mask in public is unsafe, More harm than good, She is Not a person of medicine, But a person with a degree for money & political power !
        Take her Med license ,Her Gun permit & boot her from school board

      • This Democrat has decided to stop projecting her desire to commit violence onto others.

      • This is a very unstable individual and has NO BUSINESS being on a school board or practicing medicine. How do nut cases like this get appointed or voted on to a school board??? I hope the good people of Pennsylvania Remove her and the state/county should Should review her concealed weapons permit.

      • This from an Republican and apparent Trump supporter. Don’t know how you can call anyone stupid.

        • Another leftist bootlicker throws their hat in the ring with Miner and Frank.. y’all just love to parade your stupidity for the world to see.

    • I think this lady might be a little confused about the meaning of the word “hypocrisy.” It isn’t hypocritical to want to preserve one’s 2A rights AND one’s right to not be told what to wear (arguably a 1A right). Actually, it’s very consistent – a lot more so than threatening to shoot people because you aren’t getting your way.

      • I would bet she also is very much against YOUR right to own and carry a firearm. While she threatens to shoot you with hers.

        • C’mon, these chickenshits wouldn’t even think of pulling a firearm unless there was no chance of return fire. It’s why the gnash their teeth trying to tilt the field to their favor. What I want to know is why these idiots suck so much at satire and sarcasm? Or is that just their go to excuse when the mask slips?

        • She needs to be turned into the state license issue authority for making felony threats against the public. Demand license removal.

      • That’s what I came to say, I don’t think the word “hypocrisy” means what she thinks it means.

    • Absolutely. When anyone approaches me without a mask, I politely ask them to not approach me. If they keep coming, I merely pistol whip them.

      It’s worked so far.

      • I go to the store with a shirt that says “free hugs”. No takers so far.

        • Bet it would be different if you were a 110lb blonde about 5’7″ with a 38C cup……

        • free hugs, awesome. i’d wear that.
          my mask has sharpie, “it’s the flu, i’m +.”
          worn infrequently. some of these joints really get after ya.

        • I have a shirt that flat out says “I have covid, kiss me and die happy.” No takers as of yet.

        • Real badass right here. I’d wager you do just like the rest of us and politely point out the space invasion. Ass knocking is for the clowns that don’t politely respond.

        • OK Chuck if you are scared of someones cooties it would be up to you to avoid them. Not assault them. That kind of action could result in injury to yourself.

      • No, we do not have red flag laws in PA and we don’t want them either, simply because red flag laws are unconstitional (gun control freaks say we meed them to keep us safe, sound familiar?)

        • still seems like a good candidate for a mental evaluation…didn’t she just make a terroristic threat?…

    • Crazy Control Freaks/Socialists run for office so they can crack the whip.
      Se’s going to shoot someone for not wearing a mask! The reason there is a 2A., to defend our selves from the crazies that will kill us

    • Instead of taking the Hippocratic oath She must have taken a Hypocritic Oath. 🙂

    • Is she an MD, a PhD, or a Doctor of Theology? Since she doesn’t know that most masks and face coverings are only about 4% effective, she doesn’t seem to know very much about the medicine field. Maybe she is a lay minister of the Church of Satan.

      I wonder if she would pull a gun and shoot if there were a lot of people near her, at least some who might also be armed?

    • really disturbing to think they elect idiots like this to school boards…but then that probably explains a lot…

    • My two cents…

      She claims to have a permit to carry concealed. One of the things they ALWAYS drive hom ein the usual classes for such a permit:

      “You may only use your firearm in self defense if in a similar situation a REASONABLE person would be in IMMINENT fear of death or grievous bodily harm.”

      It cannot under any circumstances be concluded by a reasonable person that the mere presence of someone not wearing a mask over their mouth and nose poses an IMMINENT threat of death or grievous bodily harm.

  1. I love it when keyboard commando soyboys issue their challenges. It’s even more silly when keyboard commandettes run their cheeky little mouths. You know damn well that in a real row they’d soil their panties and run behind their children for safety.

    I think this beyotch will be going into hiding very soon.

    • I’m pretty sure it’s a hard “G” in Rager. I’ve never seen the hyphenated name before, but I know some Ragers from back home in Pennsylvania. All of that said, this woman sounds like a real feminist rager.

  2. From the article… “Ironically, her Facebook page also has a video of a parade of fire equipment and others marking her son’s seventh birthday last Friday during which a firefighter hands the boy a gift.”

    Remember, it’s the Hippocratic oath, not the hypocritical oath!

    • Edit to add last line of the article (the important part!:

      “Neither is wearing a mask.”

    • So, she’s a bioterrorist? I wish these people understood that made up concepts can go both ways. But then again, I spose that’s the point of making shit up. Then whatever she says “goes.”

  3. I’m confused…..so she doesn’t understand why people protesting against (what they see as) violations of their constitutional rights (lockdown, masks) are against violations to their constitutional rights (gun regulations)??

    Am I missing something?

    • Huge mistake dude. You’re trying to make sense of this, you won’t be successful…

      • “Huge mistake dude. You’re trying to make sense of this, you won’t be successful…”

        Actually, it all makes perfect sense: she is one of the elites, by profession and politics. What is permitted elites is that which they find profitable or expedient. It is part of the natural order of the universe. Non-elites are to be guarded against, up to and including with deadly force.

        How can anyone not understand all that?

        • “…she is one of the elites…”

          She **believes** she’s an elite. FIFY

        • I just hope the “media” doesn’t confuse that her attitude is one shared by all gun owners, rather we all believe that EVERY ONE has rights, not just ourselves.

          • “I just hope the “media” doesn’t confuse that her attitude is one shared by all gun owners, rather we all believe that every one has rights, not just ourselves.”

            She is one of the elites, pushing the progressive agenda. Her gun and her threats are in service to the narrative. She will get a complete pass.

            Note: Haven’t seen this incident on national news. Either it didn’t happen, or it isn’t important enough for the public to know.

    • You sure are. Just as you can’t yell fire in a theater when there’s no fire, you can’t walk around exposing people to your virus without a mask if you’re a symptomless carrier.

      It’s potential assault, and even potential negligent homicide. And, you may even pick up the virus to kill your granny or kids later.

      • Patent bullshit. If you are symptomless, how does anyone know you’re a carrier? You are talking about EVERYONE being required to wear a mask, whether contagious or not, or to be shot dead. I do not think that is gonna fly, regardless of your level of chickenshit panic.

        • Aaaah but you could be contributing to global warming because you’re now sweating excessively wearing that tight mask in 90F and 90%humidity. She would get you for that, too.

      • what?! The difference is intent to cause harm. I guess we have middle schoolers on this page?
        Licking produce after testing positive for SARS-2: charge them.
        Happen to breathe whilst being unaware of carrying a virus : welcome to life. Jail everyone or no one.

  4. Liberals are all bat sh*t crazy, just some more than others! Only good thing about the “plague” is finding out what people are really like.

    • I think we really started seeing it after 911 but the distinction got a jump charge with Trumps election. The virus has definitely stirred them up.

      If there are legit reasons to red flag someone, this might be one. She has proven herself a threat to others.

      • “If there are legit reasons to red flag someone, this might be one. She has proven herself a threat to others.”

        Is she not taking the theme of POTG, that when threatened with deadly force, deadly force will be used in return? There have been laws prohibiting the purposeful infection of other persons through exchange of body fluids.

        I remember reading that intentionally infecting others with AIDS is a criminal offense, maybe even attempted murder. What is different here?

        • Intentionally/Knowingly infecting anyone with a disease causing serious injury or death HIV/AIDS, Hepatitis, etc is a felony in most states. Even the threat of doing so is considered a felony in some. There is going to be a lot of legal proceedings/judgements over the consequences from the Chinese Virus. Many will touch directly on The Bill of Rights vs Governmental authority. This will empower the courts to take an even larger role in deciding the parameters of: What Our Rights are and How We may exercise them. I suggest you be prepared for some major disappointments in these regards For the most part the courts have been less than resolute. When answering the question of Rights. Often placing barriers for reasons of Politics, the Greater Good and even Personal Opinion. My guess is there will be a mish mash of Judicial Rulings. Depending on the Politics of the Court. Leading to more court proceedings. Further delaying any True Resolution on Our Rights. Thus allowing those who wish to. To continue to Trample on Our Rights. As set forth in the Bill of Rights without regress from the citizenry. Beyond the Ballet Box which has shown to be a failed exercise in many parts of Our Nation. I purposely leave out the Bullet Box. Simply because I doubt the veracity of the citizenry to Stand and Fight. For that which was handed to them without effort on their part. Yes many will whine and moan. Some will scream at the sky and keyboard commando their rage. Yet They will not fight. It is a Sad time: When Citizens Fear the consequences of fighting for Their Freedom/Rights…More than They Fear the lose of those Freedoms/ Right. Keep Your Powder Dry.

          • “This will empower the courts to take an even larger role in deciding the parameters of: What Our Rights are and How We may exercise them. ”

            Indeed. The recent declaration by a federal judge to usurp executive power to maintain and/or bring charges against defendants is right at the doorstep to a judicial coup. And for some reason the DOJ isn’t seeking to set that judge aside. The founders warned about an oligarchy of federal judges running the country.

        • Sam, may I inquire what “The recent declaration by a federal judge to usurp executive power to maintain and/or bring charges against defendants is right at the doorstep to a judicial coup.” is referencing? I love your sarcastic art but I’m afraid this one got over on me.

        • Much obliged. I somehow missed this with everything being buried under the latest breathless reports of the current narrative.

        • She is openly threatening the general public with use of deadly force. In some parts this would be taken as a dare (“Here…hold my beer.”).

          Perhaps I don’t personally know enough licensed-to-conceal carriers, but those whom I do know keep that fact to themselves. Responsible concealed firearms carriers do so because they want the element of surprise. They don’t publicly announce that they are carrying and they don’t make open threats to any and everyone. They carefully avoid making a target of themselves and their loved ones. But then, I don’t know any licensed concealed carriers that are also Democrats, so there’s that.

          If this story is true, then this woman is a few bricks shy of a full load. Whether she knows it or not, she literally stated that if you get within 5′ 11.999″ of her or her family without a mask, she will shoot you. A mask that as yet is to be proven whether it makes any difference at all in preventing the spread of Covid-19.

          Remember, in February the CD was basically telling us not to wear a mask because it will do no good against Covid-19. Okay, I know, the CD didn’t want average people hoarding all the masks at that time; there was a shortage and they needed them for the front-line workers.

          I’m not totally familiar with self-defense laws in PA, but I have to believe they are pretty much the same in most places. To be justified in using deadly force in self-defense, a reasonable person would have to believe there was an immediate threat of death or serious bodily injury. I’m not so sure that simply not wearing a mask within 6 feet meets this condition.

          But then again, Democrats do tend to get different treatment under the law, and in the media.

  5. Well, I always though they called it a Medical Practice for a reason. Then they proved it when the same doctor prescribed me two medications at the same time which began shutting my kidneys down. Caught that and was able to reverse it. Then another doctor from the same clinic prescribed one that gave me seizures and said I must be one in a million to get seizures from it. I had already quit taking the meds when I went back in two days later. He said if they don’t go away in the next few days, we will do a brain scan to check on the extent of permanent damage.

    Yep, I went to a different Medical Practice after that. I got little use for most doctors, many seem to do what loads their wallet the most. I guess they are actually like most gun owners, mostly good intentioned and then their is a bad one or two.

  6. The Nazi’s were likewise concerned with the purity and health of their nation and cleansed all those threatening their loved ones’ well-being… Then again, National Socialists, Democratic Socialists, Loving Socialists…

  7. “Sorry not sorry”
    And she’s a democrat that ran for office? Let me guess, she supports red flag laws. Hypocrites. Every one.

    • She should be red-flagged after admitting she has her CCW. She should also give up her gun out of principle as a good card-carrying member of the Fascist-Communist Party (more commonly known as Democrats).

      • Hell yes, she made a public threat though on a “private” site. We have NO expectation of privacy!…………remember?

  8. Having protesters come up to you unmasked and unprovoked and in unison cough at you could be considered assault.

    Yesterday, during one of these protests to reopen businesses a batch of Proud Boys dismantled and damaged a memorial to local people who have died from Covid-19.

    “As Trump says, there are good people on both sides”

    • Got a link or anything else to provide any details, or is this like Miner’s claim that Nazi flags and nooses were all over the place at these rallies?

    • Where us a memorial for all those killed by medical malpractice? There is SO many more of them.

    • Not sure what “proud boys” are, though from your usage I’d guess it’s Democrats. Still, someone has a monument to Covid-19 deaths? I think you’re going to have to post a picture, until then I’m gonna have to call you a liar. Why in hell would anyone construct a monument to people who died from a virus? Is it next to a monument to last year’s 120,000 flu deaths?

  9. Both professional and political arrogance is responsible for the present state of the world economy and world population as well.

    A common annual “flu virus” was promoted as a “pandemic” by the “smartest” and “best and brightest” people in positions of power, both in the USA and in the rest of the world.

    These “best and brightest” convinced political “leaders” to impose mandatory business closures, “lockdowns” and “quarantines” on healthy people, which is contrary to every common sense and scientific principle.

    These “business closures” were not imposed “across the board”, but were picked by political hacks as “winners and losers”. Liquor stores, marijuana dispensaries, lottery retailers, and certain “big box” home improvement and sporting goods stores were permitted to remain in operation, while just about all small businesses were forced to close.

    In some states, the political arrogance was so great, plant nurseries, seed distributors, and other businesses were deemed “non-essential” and forced to close. Even “big box” stores were prohibited from selling lawn and garden supplies. Many restaurants were also put out of business by these clearly unconstitutional edicts.

    Imposing “quarantines” and “lockdowns” on healthy people does nothing to insure public health, and in fact delays necessary herd immunity.

    Public health is further damaged by business closures, especially small businesses whose owners rely on continuing business as a means of making a living, both for themselves and their employees.

    A major problem is that these “best and brightest” and political “leaders” are so arrogant that they refuse to admit that “they screwed up, big time”. Instead, they “double down” and inflict further pain on the public by refusing to insist that “they were wrong”. None of them will pay personally for their arrogance, stupidity, and just outright dishonesty and criminality.

    All one has to do is look at the “coronavirus hospitals” that were created to handle the “overflow” of coronavirus patients which never materialized. These “hospitals” were a waste of taxpayer dollars and did absolutely nothing to promote public health.

    At the same time, local hospitals were required to cease admissions, even for those of an emergency nature. Although not specifically stated, the public with health problems were covertly “encouraged” to avoid hospitals at all costs because of the phony “coronavirus” claims.

    Health professionals are also responsible for the current state of affairs, also refusing to admit that “they screwed up, big time” as well, and continue to insist that this annual flue is a “pandemic”.

    Then we have the “heavy hitters” with money, such as Bill Gates and Stephen Fauci who claim that they have “solutions” to our (artificially contrived) health problems. Gates is so arrogant the he feels that he can get away with genocide by using mandatory vaccinations to “cull” the world population.

    Gates “vaccination” programs in third-world countries failed to adhere to good medical practices, and the Nuremberg principle that “informed consent” must reign supreme in the administration of all medical procedures.

    Gates’ “vaccination” programs introduced polio into children in India for which he and his program were banned from the country. Gates’ African “vaccination” programs surreptitiously introduced birth-control compounds as part of their vaccination program without gaining “informed consent” from the recipients.

    According to these moneyed types and even “health care” officials, we are to be branded, tagged, and treated like cattle with no means to make informed choices about our health or health care decisions.

    Wearing masks and “social distancing” are no different than the “security theater” that we experience at airports with the TSA.

    There are no valid reasons for “mask-wearing” or “social distancing” for healthy people. “Lockdowns”, “business closures”, and “quarantining” of healthy people is being used for “control” and nothing more. The “powers that be” are desirous to see “how far they can go” to get the world population to accede to their demands.

    Fortunately, there are a lot more of us than there are of . We (still) have the power of the internet to bypass the “filters” that they put in place to keep us from seeing their “real” motives.

    • Anarchyst,

      Nice summary; many good points.

      Bill Gates was asked to leave India because of the damage his vaccine program did. We need to be vigilant; he will be showing up in the USA with a Covid vaccine program.

      NOT trying to start a vaccine/anti-vax discussion!!! Just saying Gates is monster. Don’t take any medical treatments associated, even remotely, with him

        • Funny!

          But you know I did side with him almost all of the time.
          Just wish he had actually talked guns; it was so easy to connect his one issue to the politics around guns and the 2A.

        • I tried to post a funny ha-ha by saying “Now where’s [the username that sounds like James Campbell but has the first letters transposed]?”

          Looks like that username has been blacklisted, just like PG (not the real full name for that guy) and K-nutesen (also not the full name). Somehow these guys get the axe, but Serge gets to stay. 🙂

        • Voicing an unpopular opinion is very different from trolling.

          “Somehow these guys get the axe, but Serge gets to stay.”
          Banning someone you disagree with is very left wing.

        • Dude,

          I was questioning/mocking TTAG’s ban list logic, not suggesting that Serge needs to be banned along with the others. The only banning I believe should be done is against the spammers who only post links to outside sites.

    • Very well stated. Two thumbs-up.

      I read a story on Gates’ vaccine plans that stated he strongly promotes implanting a microchip with the Covid-19 vaccine to prove you’ve been vaccinated. It came just shy of stating “no microchip, no vaccine”.

      Scary stuff. First, convince people this virus is more deadly than it is (inflating death count attributed to Covid-19), then get them to be microchipped in order to protect against it.

      It is all about money and control of the populace.

  10. Most likely she does not own a firearm and she most likely does not have a carry permit.

    Other wise she wouldn’t be spouting such nonsense and risk losing both.

    Like most anti’s she thinks that just saying so makes it true.

    • Most people who openly profess a desire to shoot people thankfully don’t actually own firearms. And then use this as a reason why others shouldn’t own them as well.

  11. Wonder if the anti-gun crowd will use this as an example of a crazed-gun owner willing to kill anyone who disagrees with them?

  12. If she starts pulling a firearm and shooting at people not wearing a mask Covid-19 will be the least of her worries. She will probably meet a more immediate demise.

    • But when does she draw? 6′ exactly? Are there clear warning signs she wears to denote or alert this otherwise unknown (to the general populace) danger? Does she just draw and shoot or is there a warning? Crazy bitch sounds like you cross some perceived line on her part and it’s Judge Dredd time.

  13. She is from Selinsgrove, about 40 minutes north of Harrisburg, the Commonwealth capitol. That is a solidly conservative area, despite the presence of Bucknell University. I doubt she is going any further than the school board in her political career, and she may have just killed that.

    BTW, the hill country up there is beautiful, and the human population density is low, although, clearly, there are a few very dense humans up that way.

  14. Sending to family in PA To solicit their local, county state police to issue an immediate red flag gun confiscation order and for her to be taken in for mandatory psychological eval under PA law, as well as have her CCW suspended pending further review, as she is not mentally fir to have a CCW either.

    I love this statement: “I am in a profession where the threat of someone approaching me not wearing a mask while in the midst of a pandemic is equivalent to the threat against my life.” you got it backwards you henpecking “karen” i see someone running at me wearing a mask as a potential threat, in God we trust, everyone else show me your hands.

  15. Can’t wait until she draws down on the wrong person…and since her threat is documented, it will clearly be a case of self defense…

    • You are one of the few who support Liberty on here by not calling for the state to deprive her of her rights. She is simply a defensive gun use for a good Citizen, not a reason for red flag laws. Liberty means bad people will be armed, and when they act dangerous, then they are supposed to be shot by another Citizen.

    • Having been infected back in January, and completely recovered, I have been tested positively for the antigens. I am currently immune and non-contagious. Therefore; a mask provides absolutely no benefit to me or those around me.

      Should I be shot for not wearing a mask?

  16. She’s taking the first name of her hyphenated last name a little bit too seriously!

  17. “Thanks to California Senate Bill 329, as of January 1, 2017, it is no longer a felony for people who are HIV-positive to have unprotected sex and not disclose their status.”

    I wonder how the good doctor feels about this? Are you allowed to shoot someone that approaches you with an infected penis?

  18. Looks like we can add one more name to the list of people who should not own guns.

  19. There are two important dimensions to the hypothetical situation which the doctor described.

    If a person has a highly communicable life-threatening infection, they very well could be a credible, imminent threat of great bodily harm or death. And they very well could NOT be a credible, imminent threat of great bodily harm or death if that infected person does not do anything which will transmit the infection to another person.

    The really hard part is trying to define the risk involved when a random stranger walks within six feet of you without a mask. Do we know if such a person has COVID-19 virus? Do we know if a mask significantly reduces the risk of a person infected with COVID-19 from transmitting it to another person within six feet?

    I think this compares well with a situation where COVID-19 virus does not exist and a person wearing a mask and jacket walks toward you with their hands in their jacket pockets. Such a person could be an armed robber walking up to you to point a handgun at you and demand your money. Does that mean you are legally justified to shoot any such person? I say no. Neither is this doctor legally justified to shoot someone who gets within six feet of her without wearing a mask.

    • Yes, they’ve done studies with masks & all recent coronaviruses. They even have a machine which produces “coughs and sneezes” using a harmless virus. An N95 mask does prevent viral infections along with hand sanitation. That’s why doctors wear the masks in COVID-19 ICU’s. To be safer, you should wear chemical splash goggles as well.

  20. Karen’s got a gun.
    Everybody is on the run.

    Democrat number 125,004,632 that thinks because she’s a crazy loon you must be punished.

  21. I knew it would be some dumb shit when I saw a hyphenated last name. Lock up this psychopath for terroristic threats.

    • EXCUSE ME? You’re basing your asinine ASSumption of danger/violence/demokkkrat on hyphenated names? Many of us women have hyphenated names and are as red conservative as they come. Mind your lane.

      • Yeah, I’m in a profession where I deal with kids and their parents all day, every day. The moms with hyphenated last names are universally bigger pains in the ass. Sorry, but there’s a reason the stereotype exists.

        • a gal that doesn’t want to take my surname is not marriage material.
          but it’s their “statement”, and they are girls.

        • Hahah you’re right. I didn’t hyphenate mine. It confuses computer programs at medical offices if you have kids there. Also, at their schools. Since women of royal birth don’t change their name, I didn’t change mine….lol

          • What about all the more colorful college and professional athletes (male) that have hyphenated names, have you found them to be a pain in the ass as well? And what if they married a professional woman that wanted to hyphenate as well? How would you EVER manage a person with MULTIPLE hyphens? HMMMMM…./

    • “I knew it would be some dumb shit when I saw a hyphenated last name.”

      OK, true story, I know a young lady who’s last name is Ware & she married a guy with a last name of Wolfe. Now, tell me you wouldn’t hyphenate that! Well, she didn’t…

  22. What does one call the person that graduates last in the medical class at the lowest rated medical school in the country?

    Answer: Dr.

    The respect that we as a society have been taught to grant to both attorneys and medical doctors is vastly undeserved.

    What is the third leading cause of death in the United States? Medical mistakes. Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28186008/

    • “The respect that we as a society have been taught to grant to both attorneys and medical doctors is vastly undeserved.”

      Both are employees.

      • Sam,

        Exactly so.

        In my household we think of medical doctors as one of many sources of information and opinion. We make our own decisions. The Docs work for us.

    • No, she isn’t. Reading comprehension is fundamental to intelligent interaction.

  23. Just another Karen, oh excuse me, Dr. Karen.

    She insists I wear a mask, even when I don’t need one. Somehow she doesn’t use the same logic as it applies to bearing arms.

      • How do you know you don’t need a pickle shoved up your ass to avoid all this? We can all do pointless things and claim it works. I’ve got a rock that repels tigers AND dragons. Wanna buy it?

        • I have one of those rocks too and it really does work! All these years sitting on my porch in the good old USA and never been attacked by either one!

        • Exactly, I’m willing to part with mine for the low low price of onebilliontygazillion dollars. Domestic shipping only.

  24. This is a good example of a good use of a red flag law. A liberal with a gun that is threatening to use it against people not wearing a mask. She wasn’t wearing one in the picture. A case of do as I say, not as I do. Any excuse to blame law-abiding gun owners.

  25. How can someone smart enough to earn a medical degree still be an IDIOT?!? Don’t think her plan will work out very well for her…

    • “Intelligence” and being Smart are not necessarily one and the same. Street smart and Book Stupid comes to mind. As well as Educated Idiot. Generally this is condition of Elitism. Common among the political and professional class.

    • My girlfriend is a practice manager at a hospital. The utter stupidity of doctors is a subject we discuss often.

    • obviously she’s got a big mouth…and feels free to use it making thoughtless remarks…not a good trait in a politico or someone who intends to maintain the dignity of her office or title…these control freaks don’t seem to deal with defiance very well….

  26. I hope someone forwards this to her local county sheriff that issued her CCW so that it can be revoked due to her making threats such as this.

    • DW: The right to carry firearms is a god given natural right that should not be interfered with by the government!

      Also DW: I hope this fancy lady gets her government issued and mandated ccw license taken away by the government/nanny state because Derp.

      • Hey retard: she threatened to shoot people who she deems to not follow her code of conduct.
        She is they very person that these ‘red flag’ laws she demands should be used against.
        But you are a moron..

        • No one would take this ‘lady’s’ threat seriously. Well except for a conservative, pearl clutching snowflake, apparently.

        • Ah, a libtard bed ending the stupidity of another libtard.
          She made a threat to shoot people. If I did that, I’d be in jail.
          But obviously you think that you, and this sack of garbage shouldn’t be held to the same standard you libtards demand we be held to.
          Typical of the extremely low IQ retards the DNC depends on.

        • But, but, but, that’s not fair! It’s beyond obvious by now, if it’s their dog = good. Anyone else doing the same thing = bad.

    • What makes you think she has a license? Because she says she does? Why would you believe anything she says?

      • “Why would you believe anything she says?”

        Because, uuuuhhhhmmmm, like, you know, “I believe all women”?

    • Males too. I work with some real shit asses that prove hyphenating your last name is the way to warn everyone what a total prick you are. So at least the woke folk can take comfort that this phenomenon is gender neutral.

  27. Bet she runs an abortion center. Why are all demorats so hostile and hateful?

  28. That’s okay, she’s a Dim…. She can say or do whatever she wants, she’s part of the Resistance…

  29. Physician heal thyself is something the lady doctor should consider. Additionally, I suggest that she needs to consult a criminal defense attorney regarding the action she talks of taking, and it’s consequences. Other than that, some people likely shoot more quickly, to say nothing of straighter.

  30. This idiot is on the school board ? Fire her before the sun goes down on her mask OH wait she doesn`t have one !

  31. Anyone threatening to “shoot” someone not wearing is mask is; 1: A very sick individual 2: Going to say that to someone armed and end up on a slab in the morgue.

  32. LMAO!!! One look and you know she is a Liberal. Always making veiled threats using a GUN but the prima facie
    absurdity is that they HATE guns and do not know what end the bullet comes out of……..Know this…. when the revolution comes and the people who really know how to use guns.will act against the LIBERAL aggressors…she will be one of the first to go

  33. Will She admit that far more People are killed due to Medical Malpractice then any other cause…..???? Do NOT threaten me…….it may not be a healthy thing to do…….

    • no offense, but your name reminds me that ms. rager is a chou chou, whether you mean the pastry or the vegetable.

  34. “ My concern and compassion for human life“

    Except when I want to kill them.
    What a Karen.

  35. She is threatening to shoot people. Sounds like an imminent threat. She should be arrested and charged.
    Doesn’t PA have ‘Ret flag’ laws that should be used against this mentally unstable twit?

  36. I guess she is forgetting the part where the US Surgeon General says nobody should be wearing masks.

    • From what I gather, the mask will not prevent the wearer from contracting the virus but rather prevent asymptomatic people from inadvertently spreading it. So of course the woke crowd twist that into no mask = disregard for your fellow man. On it’s face I almost get it, but all these hypocrites are people too and they all flub the rules when then see fit. The only difference is when you and I do it, well now we have a capital offense. Something the ultra-Karen can lord up over their “inferiors.”

  37. Hippocratic oath or not, even a physician has the right to defend themselves, however she might want to open with a verbal warning before she starts throwing lead around and in light of her decision to issue a threat so publicly she better hope she has a friendly witness or two…. (provided of course that she actually survives such a stupid course of action)

  38. it wouldn’t surprise me if she could avoid conviction if she actually killed someone under these circumstances. All it would take is one other Karen on the jury who believes that if someone who *might* have a virus that could potentially (P<1%) kill her comes within 6 feet, its a full blown assault worthy of a lethal response.

    karen's gonna karen.

    • In your hypothetical she might be found “not guilty” (not “innocent”), but she could lose her license.

  39. I knew this was another rabid liberal before reading it. More proof that, if you really want to curb gun crimes, ban leftists from having them. It’s funny to me how demonrats are always whining about more gun control yet here is one that has a permit and shows typical signs of being mentally unstable.

    • I’m a leftist gun owner and I’m probably more of a 2A absolutist than you are. Being politically liberal (“open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values”) and pro-gun are not mutually exclusive. Blind tribalism is a huge problem in our country.

      • The word ‘leftist’ and ‘2A absolutists’ are 100% incompatible.
        So either you are lying, or you are so ignorant you can’t be educated on the abject stupidity of your claim.

        • Hydguy, I think you need to show your work if you’re going to sling claims like that. I’m more than happy to discuss my political perspective with folks but you need to drop the ad hominems.

          • What is there to discuss?
            And what type of advice hominem are you claiming I’m engaged in?

            You are a self admitted leftist, which means you believe that the government should have even more control over individuals than they already have. .
            You vote for people who don’t believe in the 2A, and try every trick in the book, and ten write new chapters to try and explain why ‘shall not be infringed’ means that they can infringe on the 2A.

            So yes, while my earlier reply is a type of ad hominem, it’s a VALID ad hominem.

            So again, you are either lying, or are too ignorant to see the utter stupidity of your statement.

            And I think you are the type that throws around words (like ad hominem) but don’t really understand all that the words entail.

        • None of your argument is valid. In fact, it’s a non-argument. Your views on American liberalism are beyond cartoonish and lack any sort of nuance.

          • Lol!!
            You are pathetic.
            You vote for people who tell you they want to take your guns.
            Yes, you are either lying about being a gun owner, or you are so stupid that you think writing a letter to a gun grabbing politician will mean anything, and you give gun grabbers more power.
            I know the turds my dog drops in the yard are smarter than you.
            If ignorance is bliss, you must be one very blissful person.
            But you are still a stupid leftist sack of sh!t.

        • “Leftist” and “progressive” both equate to “believes there is such a thing as ‘free stuff'”, and “thinks productive people should support his games and drug habit”.

      • A lot of strong 2A proponents throughout American history have been “liberals.” Not one of them has been a “progressive,” a “socialist” or a fvcking commie b@st@rd.

      • “Being politically liberal (“open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values”) ”

        “liberal” = “progressive”, “leftist”

        Being “liberal” means adhering to strict orthodoxy that only opinions, beliefs, words, deeds supporting and/or promoting leftist, liberal, progressive values and intolerance are permitted. Unorthodox stances are hate speech, Nazi, alt-Right, KKK, illegitimate, and requiring severe suppression. Liberalism, leftism, progressivism are color diverse, but monolithic in thought. I.E. a religion.

        Which makes being a liberal 2A absolutist impossible, a delusion at best. And this is because a 2A absolutist can abide no, none, not any, never, a restriction on gun ownership, no matter how much virtue such an absolutist may wish to advertise. Every restriction on gun ownership is the child of opinion, always thought to be reasonable, necessary, common sense, publicly popular. Once any limit is emplaced, every other limit/opinion has the same legitimacy. The logic of absolutism can have no exceptions.

        • Problem is, as usual, that the leftists redefined the terms, and most people haven’t caught on. A political liberal in this country is NOT liberal in any legitimate sense of the word. Today’s “liberals” are the polar opposite, as you’ve pointed out.

          Our leftist friend might actually be something resembling a 2A absolutist if he’s adhering to Marx’s dictum that the power of armed resistance should always belong to the masses of the working class.

          Even so, being a leftist, he’s laboring under a dangerous delusion. The problem with Marxism/communism, is that in practice it always ends up either concentrating power in the hands of a few who transform their revolutionary committee into a cadre of privileged tyrants; or consuming itself, a la the French Revolution (aka the Terrors) in an orgy of resentment-driven, puritanical violence. Human nature always wins out.

          • “Human nature always wins out.”

            Seems leftists eat their own, in a frenzy of virtue signaling, trying to prove who is the most pure (which is nothing more than power grabs by those in the second or third ring of the privileged).

        • “Our leftist friend might actually be something resembling a 2A absolutist if he’s adhering to Marx’s dictum that the power of armed resistance should always belong to the masses of the working class. ”

          Any leftist who quotes that line from Marx is not a 2A absolutist. You really think these socialist wannabes are A-OK with bank managers, loan officers, and hedge fund investors having guns?

        • I’m assuming that’s directed to me? If that’s the case, then no I’m committing this logical fallacy.

          I’m not arguing that gun control is an American Liberal talking point. The reason I said what I did is that Billb (the commentor I was responding to) seems to have a cartoonishly unnuanced view of the span of liberal ideals. They share this with a lot of commentors I see on TTAG. Going to back my original point: Liberal gun owners exist, probably in greater numbers than you think. I think pro-gun organizations would be wise to remember that.

        • ” Liberal gun owners exist, probably in greater numbers than you think. I think pro-gun organizations would be wise to remember that.”

          The main reason I believe this is the vague allusion at the end. Spoken with the impotence of today’s liberal. The word liberal either doesn’t mean what you think it does or you’re basically the equivalent of a vegan that sneaks animal products on the side.

        • So, Frankie, I assume you are proud of your “nuances”, be advised that seems to me to be “mealymouthed”, most around here actually say what they mean.

      • “I’m a leftist gun owner and I’m probably more of a 2A absolutist than you are.”

        OK, do you vote 2A rights, IE, politically-right? Or are you someone who votes those who promise to gut you of those rights?

        • Geoff “Guns. LOTS of guns…” PR, this is a fair question. I’m not a single-issue voter and this is why I have such a problem with tribalism in American politics. I’m a gun-guy but I don’t support the economic policies of the politically-right (for instance, I don’t think Reaganomics has been good for the vast majority of people in our country*), I think we spend too much on our military budget, I think our immigration policies were bad before Trump and now they’re downright amoral, I think we should have a universal healthcare system, more equitably funded schools, we should radically realign our drug policies, and we should be making deep investments in our crumbling infrastructure.

          So, no, I generally don’t vote politically right but I’m vocal about my 2A beliefs and regularly write to my representatives whenever gun control topics come up. I donate regularly to organizations that are presenting legal challenges to anti-gun laws. I live in a place that’s traditionally very anti-gun (even the conservatives are hoplophobic to some degree), so it sometimes seems like I’m pissing in the wind but again, I’m not a single-issue voter.

          *For the record I think Clinton and Obama furthered these policies, which I didn’t/don’t support.

          • All the things you support require, endorse and encourage more and more government intervention into individual rights. Regardless of your idea that the Second Amendment is important, the government you promote will take your guns.

          • So, you are anti-military (one of the few things the federal government is expressly authorized to fund), you are pro-mass immigration (especially illegal immigration), are wholly uneducated in the economic policies from Reagan that led to a massive increase in wealth across the board in America, believe that the Feds should spend more on a failed federal education mandate (which the federal government is NOT expressly given power to mandate), and believe that ‘healthcare’ (which is a service, not a right) should be ‘free’, which means you demand the labor of others be given to you because you somehow think you deserve it. You are a far left nutjob.
            What have I missed?
            The only things we agree on are the vast overreach of drug laws (my body, my choice., where have I heard that before? Oh, from the baby killers), and infrastructure. But I’m gonna bet we have major ideological difference about what constitutes ‘infrastructure’.
            You vote for politicians who tell you they want to ban guns, and limit many other rights, and think your stupid letter writing will matter.
            Yea, your level of stupidity is way up there.

        • Sam I Am
          I’d argue that a lot of them don’t encourage more government intervention into individual rights. You’re last sentence is right, though. My idea alone isn’t going to defend gun rights. Having a vocal majority of people supporting gun rights does and we don’t do that through partisan politics. I think the pandemic gun-buying hysteria might be an opportunity to disconnect gun rights from a purely conservative talking-point. I think that would be a great thing.

          Hydguy
          You’re not interested in talking about this honestly and it seems that you’re getting off on calling someone you don’t know stupid. I don’t think you’re an outright troll but I think you’re really immature, so I’m not engaging with you anymore. Have a nice life.

          • “I think the pandemic gun-buying hysteria might be an opportunity to disconnect gun rights from a purely conservative talking-point. ”

            The disconnect people are seeing here is that so-called “liberals” are not classic liberals (liberate individuals from oppressive government), but statists. The Second Amendment is a clear declaration that people are served by government, not dependent upon it. Such a life theory indicates individuals generally are, and should be, dependent upon themselves to meet the vast majority of the needs of life. “Liberals”, on the other hand, are all about dependency on government as the solver of all problems, the deliverer of all benefits. This is the conflict that renders “Liberal” claims of being staunch 2A defenders incredulous.

          • “I’d argue that a lot of them don’t encourage more government intervention into individual rights.”

            Huh? Name 3. Examine again the things that you do vote for and explain how my rights are not either eliminated or badly infringed. Explain how money I have earned is taken from me to support causes with which I disagree. You like most democrats think only of yourself. You simply don’t apply your ideals outside of your bubble world.

            I certainly do not want government running my healthcare. After all, they’ve done so incredibly well with welfare and medicaid right?

          • Typical.. spouts off stupid, ignorant talking points, gets schooled, and doesn’t like it.
            You are the epitome of the uneducated voter that the left depends on to stay relative.
            And you are also a great case for the utter failure of the federal mandated education guidelines.
            Good job being the example of the failures of everything you demand.
            Leftist ‘2A absolutists’ my rear.
            And you revel in your utter stupidity.
            We don’t need liberals like you who claim to be gun owners because your leftist ideology is what you hang your shingle on, not individual rights.
            The ideology of liberals of today is 180 degrees opposite of what the Founding Fathers instituted. They were philosophically classical liberals, not modern ideological leftist liberals like you.
            And my life would be a lot better if morons like you would move to a country that has already implemented all the failed programs you demand. Hell, I’ll even buy you a one way ticket from your nearest international airport. All you have to do is formally renounced your citizenship. You have already done it ideologically, so formally renouncing it is just a formality.
            So where shall I book your flight from, and to where?

        • Sam I Am
          I’m enjoying this conversation and I hope you trust that I’m taking an honest crack and trying to see your perspective here. With that said, I think we might have very different models for how we think government works its what it’s purpose is. Thanks for giving me something to chew on, though.

          anonymous4goodreason
          Nice try, Hydguy, but you can’t Hyd from me!

          • And further more, your ignorance about the meaning of my name is more indication of your utter ignorance.
            Man, they packed a lot of stupid in that little pea brain of your’s.

        • Frank: I don’t post under other names.
          I use this name. And I have been using it for about 2 decades on various gun forums.
          But apparently you feel I would need to change names to further prove my point about your ignorance.
          Why are you paranoid?

          • He at least votes his convictions, without making up claims that are utter lies like ‘I’m A leftist’ and a ‘2A absolutist’.
            You are like Miner and his claims that Nazi flags and nooses were all over at these freedom rallies, when the ideologies are diametrically opposed.

        • Frank, you are a hard core socialist, and I don’t believe for a second that you are pro 2A in the least. Closer to a troll.

        • Larry, I was born, raised, and live in a city that is one of the most unfriendly to non-LE gun ownership yet I pay every fee and jump through every hoop required by the city to legally own firearms. If that doesn’t prove how “pro-2A” I am to you, then nothing will.

          As for your “hardcore socialist” slur, I don’t know you from a Adam but I’d wager that you don’t understand what socialism is and isn’t well enough to make any claim like that. If not wanting to live in some Randian dystopia the Republicans are hurdling us towards makes me a socialist in your eyes, than so be it. Have fun fighting with your neighbors over whatever scraps of food the trillionaires deem to dump your way after you piss away everything our ancestors have built.