“Essex Police Chief Peter Silva held up a bump stock that someone turned in this week as the Massachusetts ban on the devices went into effect,” bostoncbslocal.com reports. “‘To my knowledge, this is the only one that’s been turned in to date.'” This despite the fact simple possession of a bump fire stock in the Bay State can land an offender in jail for . . .
life. Yes, the rest of their life.
That’s a long stretch in the slammer. The longest.
Long enough to convince what were law-abiding gun owners (until last week) to turn in their bump fire stock — even though the state legislature doesn’t offer bump fire stock owners financial compensation for making their legally purchased, previous legal piece of plastic illegal?
Chief Silva says the one man who surrendered his bump stock in Essex this week explained why most are not likely to let go. “He was a little frustrated because of the fact that he’d paid a little over $250 on this piece here, and there was no redeeming value for him on the other side to recover that money.”
[Stop Handgun Violence jefe John] Rosenthal says that should not be an excuse to hold on to an illegal device.
“These are devices that are designed to kill a lot of people quickly, and I’m not sure that we ought to be compensating people for giving up these devices that never should have been purchased in the first place,” he said.
Anyway, we know that one resident of a bucolic town on the northeast tip of Massachusetts with roughly 3500 inhabitants surrendered his bump fire stock. How about bump fire stock owners in the rest of the state?
State Police said they received three bump stocks and one trigger crank, as Massachusetts now becomes the first state in the country to make the devices illegal.
So that’s four bump fire stocks and one trigger crank. Bringing the total bump fire stock relinquished to law enforcement officials to five (I used a calculator).
I reckon it’s unrealistic to expect Massachusetts law enforcement to have their sh*t together enough to coordinate bump fire stock surrender data. Certainly not within days of the ban taking effect. I also figure the pathetic numbers revealed would bring no glory to MA legislators.
So I’m not holding my proverbial breath. But I am waiting to see what happens next . . .
Will Massachusetts cops make an effort to recover bump fire stock still in the wild? What if someone in MA uses a bump fire stock during the commission of a crime? What form might police action against bump fire stock owners take?
In the state where the American revolution began, where colonists resisted their British overlords’ effort to confiscate previously legally held gun powder, deadly irony awaits.
For me, trophy hunting captive animals is like having children in that I just can’t fathom the attraction. I imagine that such canned hunting is less expensive though and it’s not so bothersome if it turns out that the lions hate you;-)
I’d also be embarrassed as hell to be the guy in that picture. Doing it is one thing, but telling others that you did is another.
I think it’s slimey how journolists use the words, “foreigners,” and, “immigrants,” as cover for the word they really need to use: Nigerians.
I am of two minds about the shooting. On the one hand randomly shooting people is not the way to go, because it punishes innocent people, and it’s a great way to create motivated, antagonistic actors. On the other hand when you know a group of people are a constant source of trouble, and pose a literal existential threat to the society they live in, then you need to keep them in check.
Took me almost 3 months to get my permit. Otoh my dad got his non resident ltc back in less than 3 weeks
And to to think this is the state and the descendents of the Americans who once turned out nearly 4000 citizens in a single day armed with private firearms suitable for military use to stop government confiscation of gunpowder and OMG privately owned canon.
“What if someone in MA uses a bump fire stock during the commission of a crime?”
More likely that someone would just ignorantly be shooting outdoors when a cop was patrolling nearby. Boom, Boom, Out go the lights.
Even if the person “only” gets 18 years, it’s going to scare the shite out of others.
Friends and I were shooting in a sand pit without any devices when someone nearby reported “automatic weapons fire”. We got a visit and our rifles were confiscated “for testing”. After we paid an attorney, we got our rifles back. Whew!
As Andrew Branca says: in MA, whether you were in the right or the wrong, you’re going to be run through the system as punishment.
That’s why I don’t live there no more. 8>)
I’ve been shooting for over 40 years and owned many guns….1911’s, Glocks, HKs, Kahrs, S&Ws, Mauser, Sig.
My HK45 and P2000 are are both V3 (DA/SA) and practice is all that’s required to become proficient with these triggers.
I like to carry AIWB and don’t feel comfortable doing so with Glocks.
With the P2000 it is very unlikely you will ever have an AD while drawing or re-holstering. Use the de-cocker when re-holstering. It’s really the perfect setup for a carry gun in my opinion. In a high stress situation it’s very easy to have an AD with a trigger like the Glock.
I am also more accurate with the P2000 than I am with my G19 and just as accurate with my HK45 as I am with my custom 1911.
If I could only have one pistol it would surely be one of the HKs.
The Founders arr turning over in their graves.
Dude, they put up with slave holders. The founding fathers were lots of things, and I think pragmatic would be top on the list.
Illinois is damn slow too…
@jeremy s. This is not a polymer 80 product.
This is a Glockstore product.
I flat out refuse to ask permission and pay a tax for my rights. I’ve carried for going on 35 years without doing so and will continue to do so. I don’t see the need to contract with the state for something I have the absolute right to do. Poll taxes are unconstitutional.
While I don’t agree with everything the NRA does.
Wayne should be the 1st to go.
The higher ups are ridiculously overpaid and should ALL have term limits.
I wont quit on them for all the good they have done for me.
Edit: I did however join GOA to shove it in Waynes face.
Short answer, YES! My membership expires soon. I think my money will be better spent with GOA and SAF.
Yes. The strap on my NRA range bag broke a month after I got it. Pretty sure the 800 rounds of ammo in it had nothing to do with that.
“the NRA’s closerthanthis relationship with President Trump leaves no room for manuever (sic). ”
Suuuuure, Wayne should tell POTUS that if he doesn’t get his sh!t wired, the NRA will support Hillary or some other lunatic fringe leftist next time. That’ll get his attention.
Or, in the alternative — and I’m just spitballing here — you guys are nuts.
Trump and the NRA aren’t perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but they kept Hillary and democrats from getting control of the Nation. We came within a whisker of getting Hillary’s Australian Style Gun Control in the 2016 election.
Gun owners who abandon the GOP & Trump in this year’s election will be cutting off their balls to spite their body.
How many bump sticks are out there anywaym. It isn’t a serialized piece of gear. The authorities have no idea how many are out there or who owns them.
There is also nothing to prevent Massachusetts residents taking them out of the State prior to the ban going into effect despite the law’s language. Bump stocks are not yet illegal under Federal law or regulation so you can legally transport them across State lines. And Massachusetts has no legal authority to hold you liable for keeping your bump stock at your vacation home or a friends residence in Vermont or New Hampshire.
The only way they can discover your illegal bump stock is if you are foolish enough to use it in Massachusetts.
The problem is the NRA is full of politicians! They are going to do just enough to be able to claim ptogress while doing as little to upset the whole into action. Do you think if the nra had put its full weight and resourse behind reciprocity, it wouldnt already be passed? Theyre not pushing it because they have theyre own election cycle comming upn and they want you and i to decide to ket them keep steering the ship because we have hope the bill will pass, and to change leadership midstream would derail that. So now we need them, and they keep theyre grossy overpaid jobs, doing just enough to stay there
Maybe more people would have turned them in if the Commonwealth offered a $200 grocery card or something. After all, that reward system works so well for gun “buybacks,” doesn’t it?
I have always supported the NRA and I always will continue to do so….President Trump is no Ronald Reagan when it comes to coddling Democats to promote an agenda as Reagan didn’t have the luxury of Republican majorities in both houses….with the recent allegations of Russian bankers funneling money to the NRA to support Trump’s election, I would imagine Trump may be wanting to distance himself from the NRA….it will be interesting to see if Trump puts in an appearance at the NRA convention in Dallas this spring.
The G30 is a good CCW pistol. I used it for that purpose for quite awhile.
As for the battery charger instead of a spare mag… well, I imagine you could do both pretty easily. In fact I know you can. That said, people have varying priorities and let’s be honest, which one are you more likely to use on a regular basis?
when the FBI first came out with this criteria , they said a bullet must do between 10 to 18″ in jello. then they upped it to 12″ to 18″ only because they have to be able to go through winshieds and car doors. so for a us mere mortals 10″ is ok.If we shoot through things we could get in trouble. you know, like hitting someone we did not see on the other side. and in a test, a very, very , long time ago where they shot goats that were compatable to humans in size, mass , and weight, the glaser safety slug was the top performer, having the goats drop dead right after the shot. while ammo has come along way since then, I do wonder about these new frag loads from Winchester. interior walls are very thin, and some apartment walls are also thin, I do not know if the bullet would stop after hitting them. an exterior wall would probably do that though. in case you want to, look up the stasburg test. ( I might have misspelled it).
They need a .303, 54R, .38 Special, .45 Colt, 7.62×25, .455 Webley, and 9×19 for the Victory Series. I would add the .38-200, but that’s too much of a hipster cartridge.
yes. thats where i put my back up. my only gripe is it limits your pants choices, cant wear slim fit.
Good report…yeah it was a good Superbowl. Didn’t care who won.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned growing up in and then fleeing one of the bluest states in the nation it’s that nothing, NOTHING!, is more important than feelings and those feelings are indeed enough justification to engage in whatever activity you so choose up to and including murdering a bus load of people. Any perceived negative consequence of your actions found upon those feelings is the fault of those who do not share, or even discourage, your feelings and they should be punished by the state.
Here’s the quote of the day, from the same article:
“And so, around and around we go and will continue to go until we figure out that therapy is no substitute for firm discipline.”
And this, from a family psychologist no less.
Gun Free Zones = Target Rich Environments
Welcome to Australian style gun control! Amazing that the waitress didn’t seize the officer’s handgun and toss it into the metal shredder out back. Hillary would approve!
I liked shooting my 7 inch Superedhawk in .44 mag. The physical experience was exhilarating, feeling the blast travel through my teeth, front-to-back. Really neat.
A Smith Airweight in .357, not so much. 1 cylinder to rotate carry ammo and I’m done…
No Top Gun jokes? For shame.
I thought the reason people wanted a Glock was because it was a simple, reliable and inexpensive self defense gun. I guess a lot of Glock owners have 1911 envy.and want to spend $1500 to perfect perfection.
+1 on covering the trigger guard, though this one looks covered to my non-expert eyes.
True story about clip draws:
I had the oportunity to treat my older brother’s leg from a negligent discharge this past summer: He was pulling up his drawers after using the toilet when his xd mod 2.0 sub compact 9mm carried hot with a clip draw went off. The winchester white box 115 gr fmj entered his calf and stopped just inside the skin in his foot. I applied a shoelace tournequit (sp?) above the knee and applied pressure to the wound. His wife called 911. He almost has all of the feeling back in his foot now.
Morals of the story:
1. even seemingly smart and successful people can make stupid holster choices. Don’t be one of them.
2. Be lucky. Like all of us, my brother always carries good self defense ammo. Somehow, a lowly fmj snuck into his mag and rose to the top of a stack of corbons. True story. I cleared the gun myself when arriving on scene.
3. Pray to all that is holy that your younger brother isn’t your first responder. If he is like me, you won’t ever live it down.
1600 bucks and they couldn’t bevel the front of the frame to match the front of the slide? There’re guys on here who wouldn’t buy a stock Gen5 for $550 for that very reason.
” a lady sitting next to our table felt scared for her life ! She said police are shooting people and she could have gotten shot in the parking lot [ED: above] and the manager had to walked her and her husband to their vehicle.”
Ah-huh. I’m getting this visual of her unwrapping the foil from her baked potato and fashioning it into a hat…
I live in Virginia, and this is being misrepresented. There is no law against having a 30 round magazine in your rifle. The law being cited here was specific to a non-US citizen who did not have a Green Card and was on a very specific type of visa possessing and using the magazines. I would imagine if this guy had turned out to be a terrorist and had been allowed to have the items in question you would have all said how the government was failing to protect us from foreign nationals. So which is it, or all you all just looking for something to complain about?
After more than a decade of struggling in Nashville, Price, sees a way to be less invisible and opens her piehole to fuck over lawful guns owners rights. Have fun struggling for the next decade. Twat.