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That article basically validates my belief that one of the greatest challenges our society faces today is the combination of people’s inability, disinterest in, and intentional avoidance of carefully dissecting, researching, and analyzing evidence surrounding a given issue. People (in general) seem perfectly happy with adopting a fanatical belief I. A position based on no more information than will fit into a Twitter post or headline. I understand that everyone cannot deeply analyze every aspect if every issue. But if you don’t care enough about an issue to do the heavy lifting, F off and go watch YouTube while the adults talk.
And if Messrs Horowitz and shugarman wouldn’t mind changing their first names too, that would be great.
I get it, it’s important to understand the enemy and all that – but I go and follow the link, start reading the comments, and then I start feeling like I want to engage in discussion with these people.
Luckily, midway through typing a response I’ll chill out and realize those are not people with whom a debate is worth anything. There just typically aren’t casual Huffpo readers that are on the 2A fence, so I’m not going to change any minds by pointing out the flaws in their arguments. Still, everytime one of these things gets posted I have to talk myself off that ledge for a few minutes.
The gas station sells a brighter LED that’s cheaper.
Most people are more careful when they carry a gun, not less. Perhaps Mr. Horwitz would realize it if he tried it himself.
He’s correct. It’s entirely relative but the one with the gun is always right. That’s the whole point and why we fight for our ability to protect ourselves….
Small, light, and has more than a 1hr burn time. 20 lumens may seem low until you are woken out of a dead sleep in a pitch black environment. Try it sometime. 100+ lumens is painful and blinding when fired up in the dead of night. Also, if you are coming down a hall or about to turn a corner, the intruder will see you coming with plenty of time to think up a good ambush point.
“The opinion of the ANTI-gun movement seems to be that the guy withOUT the gun is always right, no matter what the facts of the case are; that THE LACK OF gun possession makes you a super-citizen with enhanced rights to RISK OTHER CITIZENS’ lives, avoid prosecution, and use NON-lethal force in response to lethal force. Somehow, THE LACK OF gun ownership increases your judgment and makes you smarter than other citizens.”
— there. fixed that for you Mr. Horwitz
Another camel nose strategy if you ask me. They’ll just figure out a way to label us all dumbasses and take the guns.
I can appreciate, ”We want the ‘Dumbass’ concept to catch on in popular culture the way ‘friends don’t let friends drive drunk’ did for safe driving.” That’s a good idea, and if they have the marketing and production know how to make it happen, great!
What I don’t appreciate on the other hand is this idea there needs to be a 3rd voice, as if the existing 2nd amendment groups support dumbasses. Safety and training is a truly prolific component of what the NRA does.
DAVE – You are VERY welcome.
You likely WON’T have problems as many have been “ironed out” and if any should arise, “cut & paste” the posts, read them over and EXPECT imperfections with MOST autos till about 200 rds. (just like a .22 – Now a few (like a Ruger 10/22) we don’t see a “break in” period. But understand that we have a much more complex concept here.
1.) we are moving more weight, bulk from a tube-fed mag and an “elevator system” unlike a blow-back “shave-the magazine system”
2.) We are using a gas / piston operating system that has certain demands (cleanliness and oil; like a motor).
3.) we don’t have “replaceable seals” like an 1100 or 11-87 Remington) – we have piston “rings” just like a car.
Some people believe that the mag feed stop (in the receiver) is a poor design. However we have a LOT of different ammo; some with very weak aluminum bases. So if that were “built up” that part we could get a jam that could actually be a danger. If two feed at the same time simply put SG on “SAFE” avoid the primer and feed back the one near the tube-magazine. Remembering that it MAY simply not like that ammo (just like a .22 has “favorites”). Make note of that ammo.
4.) Remember you have a “return bolt spring” & it’s just my opinion that IT has been the cause of MANY annoyances.
Some folks don’t understand that the trigger housing is sloppy & has play while OTHER parts are VERY tight. There IS a design reason for this:, heat, dirt, water, debris, & the ability to strip the unit (always cocked and on SAFE); if it were TOO tight we would eventually wear down the receiver, every time we pulled the trigger-housing out and water would not drain easily. An AR has “slop” for similar reasons.
There is a very expensive Italian shotgun that uses similar design features & folks become astounded at the reasoning. [The two] in our case, gas feed holes have a slight “trumpet” to them. This make a weak shell deliver enough gas to cycle the mechanism IF the unit is clean yet makes for a lower speed similar to a Browning Auto5 and the bolt return spring cup has an easy time moving back and forth. The springs used are chromium-silicon steel. They won’t wear easily (similar to Wolf’s springs). After cleaning you may also want to leave the unit cocked and bolt open so most springs are compressed. (WHY?) Because that can “seat” problem tight spring holes or engagements. I would leave it like that for no more than 4-5 days; but it can help if your bolt-spring cup is very tight and sticks. I once had a “Street-Sweeper” in the place I worked & fixed it with a tear-down, extreme cleaning, and leaving it cocked. To clean a trigger/hammer assembly that looks like a real pain just submerge it in diesel fuel for a 1/2 hour, remove and let it evaporate. It will SLIGHTLY oil the contacts and any debris will most likely be left behind. If an object is still there, it will easily be seen.
My strongest advice with the 930 is to tear it down and study it while you clean it and lube it with a dry lube except the “piston-rings” and the outside of the bolt-spring “cup”. Don’t use more than a milliliter. (With CLP, that’s a VERY small amount) When you do so – STUDY the weapon; watch uTube videos if you want a bit of “technique-help” (getting the bolt-extension into the cup, just like a Ruger MKI, MKII, , MKIII .22. the unit is held upside-down. And you CAN put the bolt back BEFORE the trigger/hammer unit (it all comes out from two pins, even the gate. Remember the tiny pin that holds the bolt extension CAN fall right out! Do ANY work in an area where you can find tiny springs, pins, etc!
Best wishes
John
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=5lwdgkG8j7Y
I told Robert years ago that I would speak my mind in my own way and if he objected to any of my comments, he could take them down, with absolutely no hard feelings on my part.
So what are y’all complaining about? RF created this site and put his heart, soul and capital into it. He’s entitled to set the ground rules, no?
The feminists idea of divorce court.
Firstly, Gene worked for Armalite Fairchild Aviation. Colt only came into the pic because of their mfg capacity. There were other companies making military contract rifles. The lowly Harrington Richardson comes to mind.
For Colt to have done so well, why havent they had a contract in decades? How many bankruptcies and sell outs? Hell, we dont even know what name Colt is operating under this week! The mark of true quality and success.
FN on the other hand, consistently successful. Innovative operator grade products.
Colt makes the same few products for decades and decades. You would think they could get it right.
I will buy a 20″ to use at camp Perry. I am sure it will be fine in my safe next to my LWRC. It will be ok fellas. Stay in your lane.
If you want to see how lucy graham gets elected, look at the frauds elected as Republicans in the State House, especially the Senate. Sometimes, its hard to tell the difference between the positions of Gov. Cuomo of NY and these frauds.
The really scary thing is that judiciary is currently the last bulwark against the tyranny of the anti-gun crowd. If not for Heller and MacDonald, gun rights would be a much more questionable enterprise than it currently is. One different vote in SCOTUS would have sent Heller in the other direction. Scary that “knowledgeable jurists” feel that they can ignore the spirit and letter of the Constitution when it says something that they happen to disagree with.
Hi,
I have a question I was just in Maryland. From Pennsylvania about 3-5 miles over the line picking up a friend and had my hand gun in the truck not even thinking about it I gave the officer my permit and they arrested me they never read me my rights I don’t know if they have to or not. Oh and I’ve never been in trouble or have never had a record in my life and I’m not sure who to talk to about this or who to take to court in june do you guys have any suggestions.
Thank you
The price is $60 because its an american made light.
People are crying that they can get a 20 lumen light from the $1 store, but thats Chinese junk. If the lights specs dont do it for you, then DONT BUY ONE.
If you need a small, dedicated low poer light then support your fellow Americans and buy one.