The word that SIG’s adding to their ‘classic’ line of pistols for the first time in 15+ years was news. So as soon as the doors opened, lots of SHOT attendees made a bee line for the SIG booth to fondle the new P224 subcompact. SIG’s basically taken a hacksaw to the venerable P229, chopping the barrel and grip lengths to make a more easily concealed gun. But the compact 9mm will still pack a double-stacked 11 rounds (10 in .40 and .357). And they’ll offer the gun in both DA/SA or DA-K with de-cocker configurations. MSRP is $1,100 and expect to see them in stores in late spring.
Sounds like a lot of cheap shots at Sig Sauer. For those of you who buy cheap you don’t know what you are missing. Sig hasn’t gotten their well deserved reputation for accuracy and reliability for nothing! I wouldn’t trade my P226 9mm for anything, except a Sig with a smaller grip that would fit my , admittedly smaller woman’s hand, better. I must admit to being an expert shooter and I never go cheap. I like quality because it NEVER fails you. Sig never jams no matter what the conditions. In my mind what REALLY counts when my life depends on the gun is accuracy and dependability. If I can’t hit the perp with the first shot then the weapon is useless. I must tell you that during the carry class the “teacher” decided to set up a “fun” last trial. He set up a 12″ x 12″ target at 40 yards. It took him 6 shots with his “wonderful” Glock to hit it. It took me 1 shot with my accurate and dependable Sig. I’ll stick with my Sig every time. I can’t wait to try the new Sig P224 in the 9mm. It sounds like the perfect concealed carry gun for a woman.
LEO’s carry glock for one reason……they work and are reliable as well.sigs are WAYYY over priced and the quality isn’t any better than glock or springfield.ANd sigs have their fair share of issues too.to each their own so fuk off cunt whore,or cap your skinny azz with my glock…IN THE KITCHEN NOW!
Then tell me why SEAL TEAM 6 carry’s Sig Sauers? The most elite of our military! In addition to that Sig is the gun of choice for the FBI. Maybe you should check your facts before you open you mouth. I certainly don’t think my LIFE is worth less than the cost for an accurate and dependable Sig. Maybe your isn’t? That’s your choice, but bashing Sig just because your cheap and ill informed is just plain stupid.
Oh, I forgot to tell you I am an expert with a handgun and a rifle. I can put a 5 shot group in less than 4″ at a 1000 yards as well as a master at off hand 22 rifles and I do very well in ARA. I also have a PhD. It is very apparent by your language that you have very little education. So in the future you really should watch your language when speaking to a “Lady.”
While you are bashing women shooters you might want to consider this fact; women have better hand eye coordination than men and are often better shots than men.
One of the best snipers in the world was a Russian FEMALE. I’m a guy who shoots “Master” every time I need to qualify, but I know MANY women who I would NOT want to get in a gun fight with!
Seriously, man. Shut up. Gun owners have enough problems looking like obsequious chauvinists already. (I’ll give you a minute…or three…to look that up in a book called the dictionary). Please, as someone who owns a lot of guns, I’m asking you to stop and close your mouth.
You are doing the gun community a disservice leaving comments like these.
Way to go Jane, I was taught 30 years ago that foul language is a sure sign of stupidity and a small vocabulary. He posted this at 1:40 AM on a Saturday morning, sounds like this mental midget was REJECTED and went home alone
SEALS USED to carry sigs. And the weapon of choice for the FBI is the Glock.
SIG used to be known for their quality, but now they are known for how crappy thier products are. Specifically the 229 that was issued to DHS. Pure junk. They are so bad that agencies within DHS allowed their agents to turn in the issue sig and carry the Glock 26 or the 17. Glock is overwhelmed with orders for the 17 right now. The gov’t is done with sig. Next issue weapon will most likely be a Glock, h&k, or S&W MP.
LEO’s buy Glocks because they are CHEAP. They can’t always buy what’s best because of their budget limitations.
Don’t look now, fukjane, but your insecurity is showing. This is a firearms discussion. Your attempt to bully a woman who is a good shot embarrasses those of us who are here for insight and information. Go home and watch Super Nanny.
Completely agree here.
A lot of folks that obviously haven’t owned or shot Sigs. The comparisons of this gun to an LCR or Glock are laughable. They are in completely different leagues. And BTW LCR owners, let me know when I can get one in .357 Sig caliber like the P224.
Everyone wants to defend what they owe, I get that. But please keep the comparisons apples to apples (that means no cheap LCR or ANY Glock).
If you don’t like Sig because you have experience with them and have had issues, then fine. But I’m guessing that’s not the case……….
I believe the Sig P224 does not have a plastic frame; it’s metal just like it’s cousin brother the P229. Comparing it to a Glock or Ruger LC9 is comparing apples to oranges.
I don’t think I’ll buy one because it’s heavy and thick, not to mention quite expensive. However, a heavy concealable pistol is typically a little more controllable than some of the plastic single-stack sub-compact 9 mm’s on the market, e.g. Ruger LC9 or Kel-Tec PF9. Hey, this is still some what of a free country; I think it’s great that we’ve got so many choices in firearms, even though some may become evolutionary dead-ends.
In addition, you can’t beat Sig Sauer’s reputation for accuracy, quality, and reliability. I have a few Sig Sauers and love them all, especially the bad-ass 556 rifle. You get what you pay for, and for the most part, Sig Sauers firearms are a good value.
Well said. If you read the ballistics on the Sigs they beat most weapons out there except for the custom Kimbers (which are really sweet) and Les Baer. However, they usually carry an even higher price tag. If you can’t afford a Sig then there are some other good choices. Kahr makes a terrific compact, light, and reliable 9mm in the Kahr PM9 (9mm). It is double action only like a Glock if you are used to Glocks but a step up in quality from a Glock. Gllocks are OK if that is what you can afford but make sure you run enough ammo through it, practice regularly, and remember it won’t be accurate as far out as a Sig or a Kahr (so use it closer in).
The best carry gun is really the gun you will, 1)carry, 2) practice regularly with, and 3) probably the most important one, keep clean, oiled, and in good condition. No gun will work well if it not well maintained.
PS I am jealous LOL, the 556 rifle is awesome and I wish I had one. I actually shoot rifles better than pistols and love a great rifle. I have wanted this one but still don’t have one. One day, I hope 🙂
I have carried sigs, glocks, and smiths on duty..I always come back to the sigs and don’t think I will stray again…Sold my glocks although I think I might pick one up just to have…have my 226(40), 226(9)229, 239, 556 (pistol), and 238..Love them all the 226 is my duty weapon and I carry the 238 as a bug. I carry a Kahr pm40 off duty, but think that this may replace it…so I can keep it all sig..was going to carry the 239 (my most recent acquisition) off duty, but if I can give up my kahr, that is going to be hard, the 224 may be just the ticket to replace it…
if you can’t afford it don’t knock it, have 8 SIGS, been to there ACADEMY three times for training, The P224 looks good to me and ASTRA HAS 1.99 pistol if you trust your life to that,
What is it with the the Sig haters? Yes Sigs are expensive, yes you can get a cheaper gun, but if my life was on the line I would trust my 226 over anything else I have shot. But most of us will never have to worry about that. Less than 5% of LEOs have ever used their gun on duty and less than 1 % of concealed carriers have ever had to pull their weapon. I carry….and I hope I never draw my gun…but that being said I also shoot for pleasure and fun. Nothing is such a pleasure to shoot as a high quality Sig. So shut up Sig haters, save up and enjoy a Sig like those of us who own several. Life is too short to go to your grave without ever owning a Sig.
I mentioned this in my earlier post. Sig USED to be rock solid. It just seems that the past several years the quality had dropped SIGnificantly (LOL at my own corny joke). The ones issued to gun-carriers in DHS had ridiculous amounts of problems. Slides cracking, recoil springs breaking, guns rusting right out of the box. At lease 1/3 of the guns in each acadamy class has some sort of issue. Its a shame because pre-2006 Sig P229’s are one of the best weapons out there. I dont know what happened.
1/3 of each academy class has issues with their SIGs? Can you provide a cite for that claim? I went through FLETC two years ago. Not a single issue with any of my classmates’ P229s.
Well said JRocks. I shoot also for pleasure and sport. Nothing feels better in my hand than a 226. I know….I have tried them all. There are quality guns that are cheaper no doubt….but man life IS too short for cheap wine and cheap handguns. Get yourself a Sig 229, 226 or even a Sig 2022. Stop bitching about the price. It is like comparing a Porsche to a VW….you guys are basically saying… “Well I really prefer the VW….”. You may never be able to afford a Porsche but you can pop a few hundred extra for the simple pleasure of a Sig. JR is right….life’s too short….I can’t wait to get my hands on the 224. Unfortunately it may be a year before I actually see one for sale in my preferred 9 mm caliber. Until then i will keep shooting my 226 and blowing the center out of my targets with a smile.
Thinking of buying a Sig 224 found 1 new for 675 nib 9mm is a good buy?
Never have owned a Sig and found 1 9mm nib for 675 is this a good buy?
Depends on what model …can’t believe that you found a 224 for that. It would be a very good price for a 224 nib.
Sp2022 go for $399 all over nib.
229 and 226 vary from $550 up to 1200 depending on caliber and bells and whistles. Check out Buds gun shop or Top Gun supply for comparison shopping. The best deal is a p229 22 for $529 that you can convert to 9, 40, or 357 by buying conversion kit for about $300 And get two for the price of one.
Jane, just out of curiosity which aspects of “ballistics” do you think are better from a SIG? I know they use Unicorn fat for grease, perhaps that speeds up the bullet?
Pretty funny W….I think Jane is defending her favorite brand and I agree with her about the bench rest accuracy being among the best but having been in a forensics firearm class I can tell you that the tool used at Quantico to measure ballistic qualities of different types and rounds of ammo was a Sig p226. Accuracy measurements from bench rest depend as much on the ammo used as the weapon. Also studies have shown that, among weapons of the same caliber, penetration depends solely on the ammo used with no statistically significant differences from different handguns.
I think we were in the same class but a slight correction to what you’re saying might be needed. Among guns of the SAME BARREL LENGTH acurracy is a function of the ammo but the degree of rifling also plays a part. But we digress…ballistics are a function of bullet mass, load, barrel length and degree of twist. That’s just physics. As always the best gun is the gun you will practice with that functions reliably. I can hit center mass with my 226 with my eyes shut if the target is in front of me. It just feels right in my hand. Others may not feel that way. That’s why they make different brands. If they were all the same it wouldn’t be any fun and no one would have anything to talk about on the forums.
I agree that this is a beautiful pistol and I like Sigs and gave owned them for years but how is the 1100 dollar cost justified? I mean you are paying a 450-500 dollar premium over the sig 938 or the sig 290. What gives?
The government is not done with SIG’s yet. Have you heard of the new sig for the Seals that is the P226 Mk 25? Look folks, all this chatter about one pistol over another or one company over another accomplishes nothing if it creates a lot of derision and arrogance. This is a thread/site that is supposed to educate and share ideas in a spirit of having fun. Lets not take it personal, state your points clearly and you will make a convert to your side if your points are valid.
Sigs and Glocks different styles, shapes, sizes, features, and price! Men and women……different styles, shapes, sizes, features, and price! Hmmm…..imagine that?
High bore axis…….makes it more snappy in recoil to myself. Than the high $$$. I do like the aesthetically pleasing lines of the P228 but I’m able shoot the G17 faster and more accurately. What you like is what you like….I’m waiting for something the size of a sub compact (think Springfield armory XDs) in .50 GI Guncrafter industries. Navy Seals chose the P226 most likely because that’s what they were ordered to use…..But WTF do I know? NADA…
I have 5 Sigs and looking for more The new Subcompact looks like a great addition to the family. Nothing like falling asleep with best to protect the other family.
I have been an avid pistol shooter for better than 40 years, owened and shot most brands, what works for one might not work or fit someone else but for my money you would be hard pressed to find a better gun than Sig. I own several, 229s, 225, and my latest a 224 sas for concealed carry. They all shoot like a target pistol and function flawlessly when properly maintained and fed quality ammo and reloads. The 224 is no exception, I shoot is almost as well a my 229s. With a little shopping you can find them for 25 to 30% more than Glock,S&W, Springfield, ect., money well spent
Here is the fact about Sig Sauer I bought A SP2022 that was made badly, which any company can do, it happens, but Sig Sauer replaced the handgun that was bad and sent a new one. Sig Sauer is a company that stands behind their warranty and that’s all anyone can ask of a company!!
Over the years I’ve had S&Ws, Rugers, CZs Xdm, and Glocks, with the latter I tossed the plastic rods, got truglo sights.In the last year I finally took the Sig plunge, first was the 226, then a 239 sas and then a 229 elite stainless, all 3 are superb handguns. As far as our elite agencies trading their Sigs for Glocks none I know have done so.SIG ROCKS