http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx8pn5CadXI
By Barry Green
I’m obsessed with terminal ballistics and personal protection through armed self defense. Thanks to my day job as a producer for Fiercely Independent Films I’ve got access to some fun toys. Put it all together and you get a YouTube channel (ShootingTheBull410) on ammo testing. One of the most recent tests is for Dynamic Research Technologies’ “penetrating frangible” .380 ammo. . . .
This is a totally different type of cartridge; there’s no solid lead slug at all. The “bullet” is made of compressed powder that’s intended to disintegrate into a fine dust when hitting the target. DRT makes some rather aggressive claims for their ammo, both on their website and in a 19-minute interview with gun guru James Yeager. Claims such as “This technology allows for a one shot kill – you hit something in the body cavity, it will die,” and that DRT ammo acts like “a cluster bomb full of Skil saws” that will “sandblast the insides of the target.”
Needless to say [sic], it didn’t turn out that way.
Great, they made a product nobody will use except to screw over those of us already scrambling for affordable ammunition. Thanks BHA.
RF,
Keep running it they way you want to run it. The success of the site and generally good folks that post are proof of that. Whatever you’re doing, keep doing it!
I saw this video in the queue and watched it with great interest, since my EDC is a SIG P238. While I was disappointed by the results, I really can’t say I was surprised. Guess I’ll just stick with my Federal Hydra-Shok.
I was, however, amused by the extreme amount of complete bullshit in DRT’s marketing claims. They went well beyond anything I would have ever thought I could get away with, if I was trying to market this stuff.
Hydra shoks are decent, but I’d look into Underwood .380+P,
Critcal Defense or Buffalo Bore. Your gun, your call, and I’m going to shoot some .380s this weekend if I have a chance. As long as they are reliable, I like the extra punch that some of the new +P .380s have.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3h1Ml5h2ECY
Your position is pretty bad when all you have is to complain about the other camps blog comments
I hate to say it guys but I don’t think this site will ever be PC. Want proof? Figure how many of us here are military veterans then go hang around a group of joes having their lil bitch session or shootin the shit in the woodline. Some of us vets ain’t anywhere near PC. Myself included me and my friends from those days still call each other every filthy name under the sun and cuss like… well… sailors. Any other vets wanna back me up on this?
Roger that. It’s 0200 on the Hardened Voice Channel…
“…. the Germans have a different sense of humor than the rest of us.”
More like…
“…. the Germans have a different sense of responsibility and personal accountability than most of the rest of us.”
Not to mention their genetic disposition to perfection.
Is it just me but I thought MDA was a hallucinogen?
That would explain a lot…
sigh…when will they learn the square peg doesnt fit in the circular gap?
I think you should leave the censoring policy as is. I think that it is our individual personal responsibility to use our words as intelligently as possible knowing that the other side can and will read them and use them against us. You want to pummel them? Pummel them with reason – knowing that logic and reason is on our side, not with cheap insults.
I think we are all guilty (everyone – me included) of posting the occasional humorous joke. As funny as it seems to us – it may not be funny to the fence sitters and certainly not to the disarmament team and those people will be reading them.
1. If we don’t take steps to keep guns out of the hands of our kids, then others will take steps to keep guns out of everyone’s hands.
My kid has access to her corner gun. The stairwell to her upstairs room is the only way in or out. She is more responsible than most grown-ups, level headed, mature, and responsible. She will be armed in our house if she is home alone and needs to be.
2. We need people with guns protecting our kids. I don’t care how we do it, but unarmed protectors are nothing more than noisy, moving targets.
The fact that we still don’t have real (armed) security in schools is criminal negligence.
Really? its an opinion,but your so called facts are not right at all. if your is jamming, you dont have the exractor set right. The early military models are bitchy about ammo because guess wut? in 1911 they didnt have hollow points to worry about. plus in war you can ONLY use FMJs and special fmjs, so who cares if it cant use hollow points. also, unsafe? read, thats why it has half cocked. Thats what soldiers from WW1 to vietnam used to be safe. and a tool for takedown? i have a 1911a1 made by colt from 1934, i take it apart with my man hands. no idea about a tool, i do know some of the newer fancy people ones take tools,but fuck them mine works fine. also 1911s (should) be all steel, not like glocks. that means in battle, no worries about your frame cracking because its gay plastic like material.
At least you gave them a lot of posts to read through. roflmao
As for stopping power,most of the handgun rounds are not up to the task without firing at least two rounds followed by more rounds if necessary,we never know if the subject you are having to fire on is high on drugs,drunk,already mad from something else,which all of these things can and does lead to a big adrenaline dump,which could lead the subject almost being superhuman,so multiple rounds could be needed to stop the subject.Be prepared and ready.Keep your powder dry.
even if our hero was armed I don’t think he would have ended the situation the way we here would think of. even if armed I believe he would have tried to talk the kid down like he did. I don’t know if it wasn’t possible given the situation but he chose not to haul ass and tackle that kid.
The .30 Carbine cartridge was in fact designed for the M1 Carbine. The M2 select fire version is America’s first “assault weapon”. Arguably, the world’s first assault weapon was the German Stg 44 firing the 8mm Kurtz cartridge. The Kurtz being a .323 bullet at 2200fps and the American .30 Carbine being a .308 bullet at 1950fps, we knew very well who’s lead to follow back in the day. (see the Springfield Model 1903 and it’s cartridges, the .30-03 and .30-06)
Just as settlers had to be ready for attacks from hostile Indians in the days when the Bill of Rights was composed, so terrorism is a real possibility today. If the gun-grab crowd could only grasp the meaning of the word “emergency”, maybe we of the sensibly-armed crowd would get less static from them.
I just purchased a box of this to use with my S&W Bodyguard 380, I had 12 FTF out of the box of 50. First FTF I’ve had with my Bodyguard, I will not be purchasing this ammo again.
I wouldn’t own a .38 or for that matter a puny 9mm either! Might as well buy a BB gun and fire at your attacker! I’ve got a .40 Glock and a .357Mag. Then it’s strictly shotguns for the rest of home defense. Forget these slingshot you fellas are arguing about!