This is the kind of thing that pisses me off: Michael Bloomberg displays his complete ignorance about something on national television and no one calls him out. Hey Mikey! Hey Anderson! U.S. tanks fire depleted uranium rounds because they’re more dense, not because they “have a nuclear bomb in it” (as the Mayor of New York City claimed). If the head of the NRA said something demonstrably false the white-haired wonder would be all over him like stink on a skunk. Is it too much to ask that our elected officials actually look things up and make sure they are making factual statements before opening their yaps? Is it too much to expect the media to know a little something about the subject being discussed during an interview? Don’t even get me started about Bloomberg’s gaffes re: semi-automatic rifles . . .
Mayor Bloomberg: the M1 Tank Fires Nuclear Bombs
“Is it too much to ask that our elected officials actually look things up and make sure they are making factual statements before opening their yaps?”
If they did they wouldn’t have a goddam thing to talk about.
Indeed!
maybe he is referring to M1s firing DU?
Morons. Morons run this country. We are making “Idiocracy” look less like a comedy and more like a warning.
My answer:
Mayor, there is a limit.
It’s rather difficult to bear ordnance.
It’s easy to bear firearms.
+1.
People ask… where do 2A rights stop for private citizens, where are the reasonable limits?
My answer is similar: heavy ordnance and explosives are for military use. This is frequently followed by a conversation explaining what “ordnance” is…
Your going to have to explain explosives too it they try to ban blackpowder.
You would actually be wrong, with a destructive device permit you are able provided you can secure it and meet all regulations regarding storage of nuclear materials own a tactical or strategic nuclear weapon.
Until the SHTF. Then we veterans will revert back to our Constitutional Duty and restore this nation to Constitutional principles. After all, we OBEY our OATHS.
Yup. Firearms serve multiple purposes for citizens. Tanks are Effing worthless (to the average person in life). They are almost impossible for the average person to control, as well.
Its a classic libtard strawman (and appeal to ignorance).
But, it sure seems to work for the sheeple, huh.
incorect I own 1/8th of a tank myself and 7 others have combined resources to buy a ww2 russian tank.
I thought it was a documentary.
The mental midget has confused “nuclear bombs” with the even more insidious DEPLETED URANIUM. They claim the latter is safe. Yeah, so is an injection of mercury.
Just to cheer y’all up: in Sparta, they would have thrown the pissant off a cliff within an hour of his lousy birth.
They really would have. The Spartans did just that with deformed runts.
Guess its time to ban tanks. Ironicaly even in Connecticut you can legally own a tank.
Of course, with money and a de-miled gun
Funny thing, after a lot of research I established that there is no law in California–which seels to ban just about everything–against owning or possessing cannons. Just not explding shells–those would be illegal destructive devices.
If they made factual statements, they wouldn’t be who they are.
And anyone who thinks the mass media is anything more than the government’s Ministry of Propaganda is fooling themselves.
Case in point, this article that just showed up in my Facebook feed from one of my uber-liberal acquaintances:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/19/1473881/two-people-accidentally-shot-at-a-gun-show-safety-checkpoint-on-gun-appreciation-day/
These are not victims of gun violence. The passive construction in the article, implying that the gun acquired sentience and discharged itself, is simply staggering.
These were negligent discharges, and in every case cited someone failed to follow the rules of safe gun handling and pulled the trigger when it was not safe to do so.
Bahahahaha. That is actually just hilarious if it weren’t so sad. The tank company I commanded would have been a whole lot more powerful if this were true, and we could bring the thunder. What a **cking clown.
Just don’t
pissfire into the wind.Well I’ve been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo and that’s the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones!
Perhaps the NYPD has converted the M388 Davy Crockett to be fielded by the M1? You heard it hear first!
Love the Major Kong reference.
It’s been a while since I guffawed. But, I just did (when he said tanks shoot nuclear bombs).
For liberals, the ends justify the means. So lying is OK sometimes.
Sometimes?
Don’t you get it? He doesn’t care about factual accuracy where this stuff is concerned, and in fact, making ignorant statements like this enables him to say incredibly scary, outrageous things about weapons of all sizes.
His interests are not aligned with being accurate and factual on anything relating to firearms. Just the opposite: the more ignorant he is, the scarier he can be, thereby propagating the fear of firearms to his subjects.
All the money and power in the world, but Bloomberg still can’t buy intelligence.
If I only had a brain…
Bloomberg is plenty smart. What he lacks is concern for the Constitution, respect for median-income families, and deference to truth when it stands in his way. He’s got a big dose of the “I’m a minority” paranoia. He should just get over it.
I see what you did there. Sideways straw man argument FTMFW!!
“Just say anything” is the mo here. I think the we should get together, as we all own 4.3 million dollar tanks, and demand fair representation for our depleted uranium rounds. Next thing you know the ‘ol mikster there will oppose conceal carry of the M1 Abrams. What the hell does this have to do with the 2nd A.?
Really Bloomberg? Really?
the left claims tank shells are nuclear bombs, the right that the earth is 6000 years old. politicians…
I love when you guys do this equivalence thing. You do know a majority of African-!mericans are Fundamentalists and hold the same view as white “right wing” fundamentalists? oh right, they vote for your guys so it’s OK. Scratch a liberal get a klansman.
As George Burns stated in the movie “Oh God”, while playing the part of the Creator “You don’t know how long my days are”.
Nick,
Is it too much to ask that our elected officials actually look things up and make sure they are making factual statements before opening their yaps?
Yes!!!
I thought it was comman knowlege that the Slave States had made Google, Bing, etc., work the way they want them too do. The NSA bought the Tech. from China.
Type in Abrams M1A3 all you see is pictures of dead children, and a nuclear blast.
Type in Obama. Dang that looks like a picture of our Lord “JC”.
Guy22
Mr. 22.
They don’t have the scene of responsibility to read the laws that govern our lives. What makes you think they feel compelled to present the facts that do not fit their agenda? The problem is not that Mike et all talk out their a$$s, it’s that people trust and believe him. I mean is it really necessary to include grenade launchers in the list of banned items? Or is it meant to scare Joe and Jane citizen into feeling that the Collectivists are saving them from serious danger, being us?
Mikey wears his drummed up righteous indignation like a crown and expects everyone one to eat his lies with a spoon…. The scary thing is that people are doing just that…
D’oh… typo got me… A man don’t live long in these parts with a typo like that… 🙂
There’s a limit, except when Bloomingbutt wants to stay in office. What about limits then?
It is better to appear to be stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Why didn’t Andy Cooper correct/challenge Commisar Bloomingidiot?
A. He’s on his side, and
B.He has no idea which end of the tube the round exits either!
Oh, I think Andy knows full well which end of the tube the round exits. If you know what I mean.
Wow. First comparing Tanks to Guns is silly. Why cant we have tanks? They are only like $20 Million each and each “Nuclear Bomb Shell” is only like $40k. No big deal. I feel safer that we have to draw the line at Tanks. Also, the M1 tank has a smoothbore cannon, the very old 105mm were rifled. Where did he even get word that it fires “Nuclear Bomb Shells”?
And some people think it takes brains to make a billion dollars.
To quote a line, “It’s no trick to make a lot of money if what you want to do is make a lot of money.”
“If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to.”
Nice
The new issue of Time has a blatantly biased article about guns, “assault weapons” etc. One figure said you could buy a 600 round magazine for 25$!!! That’s amazing and I want one.
Seriously, where do they come up with this sh!t.
we’ll regulate it when you have to tow it with a jeep. . .
The Army used to have cannons that fired a tactical nuclear warhead. Past tense and not out of a tank. Bloomberg errored both in the example he used and the point it was supposed to make. I won’t get hung up on the example but he is dead wrong just the same.
Our federal gov. owns enough nuclear weapons to blow the world up multiple times over but you and I cannot own a ballistic knife. Our federal government w/ its collective entities have broken numerous treaties but its people cannot be trusted. Our government is partially responsible, through surplus sales of weapons bought w/ tax payer money, for arms proliferation here and abroad – now that gov. wants to ban those weapons. “Awakening Councils” in Iraq can have better gear (free) than veterans here at home. This same DoD can have drones w/ missles pointed at us but we cannot open carry. “Yes” Bloomberg a limit should exist but it should exist first w/ the most powerful war machine ever. It should beat its swords into plowshares before I will ever consider doing the same w/ mine.
When I was in the Army they must have forgotten to tell me about those tanks. Dang, I got robbed of some fun shootin. Screw you Doomberg, you are a pox of this society.
one question…..where are all the pro-2a people on the news? all i see are anti’s. i saw lapierre on hannity, but that’s like preaching to the choir.
The news either will not interview them, or will only give air time to the least eloquent of our cause.
Or they will set them up and make them look as bad as possible to further their twisted agenda. Look at what the insane coward Piers Morgan did to Larry Pratt.
OK, here’s where I have to correct people’s perceptions, ie, that Bloomberg is ignorant or stupid.
He’s not stupid. He’s got a BS in Electrical Engineering. He’s got a MBA before they were handed out like dinner mints. The man has a real background in hard math.
He’s not stupid or ignorant. He’s a liar and fraud, and deliberately so.
Exactly. And when he makes an “ignorant” statement like this, you’d better believe he knows exactly what he’s doing.
Here is where I differ. A person can have a high IQ, more letters behind their name than a third world dictator and more money than God, but if they insist on these draconian policies, and purposely lie to forward their sick agenda, they are STUPID and don’t deserve to be given a platform to spew their vile hatred of America.
“He’s not stupid or ignorant. He’s a liar and fraud, and deliberately so.”
exactly. he’s so absorbed in his own hubris with his ass kissed rosy that he somehow thinks he can say anything he wants and nobody will call him out on his bullshit.
I swear Bloomberg is “high” on something everytime he opens his mouth.
An engineering degree doesn’t make a difference. You need common sense and logic, not your “book smarts” or math skills. And this is coming from someone with an Engineering degree also.
I think that Little Mike needs a depleted uranium enema. The barium isn’t working — he still full of sh!t.
You miss the point: the facts don’t matter. They just keep spouting this crap as if it was fact because it keeps all the low information types frothing at the mouth and feeding at the troth. Getting all worked up and venting about the idiocy doesn’t accomplish anything. How many of you attended a gun appreciation event today? If you didn’t you are part of the problem!
We would carry several types of ammunition behind the hydraulic blast doors. The back half of the turret is where the ammunition is stored, there are blow-out panels on the top of this area to allow the gasses to blow outward if the ammo is hit. The loader acces this area by hitting a paddle with his knee, and ideally the doors are already closed by the time he chambers a round. The case of all the rounds is constructed with an explosive impregnated cardboard-type material, that burns off upon firing, only a small metal portion at the base remains, which is exected into the interior. The primers are ignited by a firing pin that uses a combination of pressure and electrical charge. There is the sabot round aka apfsds armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot, the penetrator itself is composed of depleted uranium, which is very dense, and posseses unique self-sharpening properties when in penetrates armor, the molten metal created by the high pressure sprays the inside of the enemy vehicle. There is also the heap type of round, it is about coffe-can sized, with a rod sticking out the front used to detonate at a set distance from the armor, the warhead detonates and shoots a jet of fire and metal through the enemy armor. There is the mpat round, multi-purpose anti tank, it is similar to the heat round, however the nose of the projectile can be twisted by the loader to attack ground or air targets (helicopters) in a mode there is a proximity fuse which detonates when close to the target. There is a canister shell, which fires a shotgun blast of sorts of many tungsten balls, marble sized. There is also a high explosive obstacle reduction round, which I am not familiar with.
How the hell did Bloomberg get to be so wealthy? He, obviously, is a moron. I just don’t understand it.
What’s the problem with the tank with a rifle that looks like a cannon that shoots nuke bombs, I think it’s one nuke at a time
Best guess is that it holds more than 7 rounds
Heaven forbid Bloomberg ever hears about the A-10…4200 nuclear detonations per minute.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner. Bravo, sir.
Is the solution to behave and speak even more irrational and ignorantly than the gun-grabbers?
Grates doesn’t it. Unfortunately facts vs emotion is essentially asymmetric warfare and emotion is going to win every time. Our tactics have to change.
We have to take all of their arguments and turn them around and throw them back at them. That’s why the NRA add was so effective. (By the way don’t count anybody who objected to that add as a true friend of liberty). We need to couch our rhetoric in the same terms used during the 60’s civil rights battles. They want to make us out to be racist we have to point out that our struggle is just as much a civil rights issue as Rosa Parks’s was. We have to walk the low road in order to occupy higher ground.
I hate to rain on your parade but Bloomberg’s not talking about depleted uranium rounds. He says a “rifle that looks like the gun on a tank” that fires nuclear bombs. That’s the Davy Crockett, a tactical nuclear gun that is classified as a rifle and does, in fact, fire nuclear bombs.
The last Davy Crockett-equipped units were stood down in 1968.
Dont we have any 105 tactical nuke artillery shells anymore? Darn it!
Will settle for everything issued to the light infantryman!
What did the strange homosexual libtard media mouthpiece say to the America hating, secular humanist, self loathing Jew? Answer: I wish we did not have to care, but we do (in times like these). This is all a coordinated effort to make the people weaker and ‘big gov’ stronger.
The M109 self propelled Howitzer can still fire nuclear artillery. He never mentioned the Abrams, just that it looks like a tank to the average person.
And what’s the point? Are these the next items to slither out in “Fast and Furious 2.0”? Veterans are well-familiar with the diverse armament the US military possesses. I find the government’s position internally inconsistent. They argue we should be terrified of terrorist acts which may destabilize entire cities. On the other hand they think we shouldn’t possess an item (with which have training and combat experience) sufficient to nail the bastards or hold off panicked riots that often result from disasters? “Make up your mind. Are we under such threat or not? Is the threat worth spending trillions to ward off when we could save more lives with better medical care? Think through your message, please!”
I think that depleted uranium shells would be awesome to have, oh and a tank too 🙂
um….anti-gunners? you can OWN tanks… http://www.tanksales.co.uk/12.ph
im not sure what he’s smoking. once again, a anti-gunner foams at the mouth over something it knows nothing about.
I swear Bloomberg is “high” on something everytime he opens his mouth.
Metal Gear?!
This clown said the same thing on Dec 18, on Morning Joe on MSNBC.
The founding fathers never envisioned the type of mass communication we have today. After all, the 1st Amendment is about “freedom of the press,” in other words, the printing press, as only books and newspapers were used at the time.
Today, we have movies, television, radio, CDs, DVDs, and the internet. Many of these mediums, expecially the internet, are used by the most racist, bigoted, and hate filled people all over the world. They use these weapons of mass communication to spread their vile hatred to all types of impressionable people, especially our young adults and children who are easily manipulated. And any racist can setup a hate filled website within minutes, at practically no cost or for free.
In order to prevent hatred, bigotry, and racism, we must place reasonable limitations on free speech, especially that which can be easily be spread to our children. No one is going to take away anyone’s 1st Amendment rights. We only want common sense limitations to prevent some of the world’s most evil people from spreading their hate filled message.
That sir is Pulitzer material! A point I’ve also tried to make but feebly in comparison.
Please use what I wrote, whereever, and whenever you can. Take this message straight to the lair of the Antis. Post this and similar comments on the Huff Post, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other extremist letist hangouts.
Use their political code words against them: racist, “common sense,” “balanced,” “reasonable limitations.” The antis rely on fear and emotion, and ignorance of even basic knowledge of firearms.
Hit them with logic and facts. You will short circuit whatever limited intellectual processing capability they have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT5jo7aZzTw
There is a 1953 video on youtube of a canon firing a nuke. Yes, tanks CAN fire nukes! They can also fire radioactive material that does not go critical. (That can probably also rig it to fire teddy bears) Even if they couldn’t, Mike’s point was, there is a limit to what kind of weapons individuals can own. There IS gun control, the only question is where do we draw the line? (Or can I get me one of those intercontinental ballistic missiles? My neighbor’s dog is making me mad, might wanna nuke ’em.)
You sound like a reasonable troll so I’ll give you a reasonable answer.
If I could afford a nuclear bomb and if I wanted to watch it go boom and if I could detonate it in such a way that nobody got harmed than YES I should be able to do that! Now I suppose you want to know how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
So not only does Nanny Bloomberg show his ignorance (nuclear bomb shot from a tank gun? Really?) Anderson Pooper shows he is unqualified for letting Bloomberg get away with a statement like that. Even if Pooper doesn’t know any better, surely there is more than just him in that entire news room. I can’t believe that NOBODY knew that Bloomberg was telling a whopper. Then again, it’s CNN and it’s in New York. They probably all DO think that tanks shoot little 50 caliber nuclear bombs!
You missed the joke. There was an atomic cannon: The M65 Atomic Cannon, was a towed artillery piece built by the United States and capable of firing a nuclear device. His point being, that the NRA believes that weapons of mass killing developed by the military should be available to civilians. Additionally,
I did a little research on depleted uranium used for armaments that all of you are referring to. I had never heard of such a thing prior to Bloomburg’s interview and your responses. No, of course there is no nuclear explosion from a DU shell. You may not like Bloomburg’s politics but he is not stupid nor ignorant. There is a great concern, however, about the toxic effects these DU armements will have on the normal functioning of the kidney, brain, liver, heart, and numerous other systems that can be affected by uranium exposure, because uranium is a toxic metal. It is weakly radioactive and remains so because of its long radioactive half-life (4.468 billion years for uranium-238, 700 million years for uranium-235). The biological half-life (the average time it takes for the human body to eliminate half the amount in the body) for uranium is about 15 days.The aerosol or spallation frangible powder produced during impact and combustion of depleted uranium munitions can potentially contaminate wide areas around the impact sites, leading to possible inhalation by human beings.
The actual level of acute and chronic toxicity of DU is also a point of medical controversy. Several studies using cultured cells and laboratory rodents suggest the possibility of leukemogenic, genetic, reproductive, and neurological effects from chronic exposure. A 2005 epidemiology review concluded: “In aggregate the human epidemiological evidence is consistent with increased risk of birth defects in offspring of persons exposed to DU.However, the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations which is responsible for setting health research norms and standards, providing technical support to countries and monitoring and assessing health trends, states that no risk of reproductive, developmental, or carcinogenic effects have been reported in humans due to DU exposure to date.
Liberals like Bloomburg may not be experts on guns and ammo as the people who own and love guns are-but he is not stupid and may even want to listen to what you have to say as long as it is presented in a respectful manner. We all have the same goal. And even if you think Bloomburg is an irredeemable idiot just remember-even idiots are right once and a while.
lol oh sighs…
theyve been working on nuclear tipped artillery shells since the 60’s when it was tested successfully. now you can put a low yield warhead in a suitcase like the neutron bombs used on 9/11.
i dont like bloomberg at all but he probably knows what hes talking about here. do you see the slightofhand citizens?
As soon as bloombug started criticizing the American image with “Norman Rockwell”, I immediately drew a connection to “john dewy”, the “educational propagandist.” There is a concerted effort to deconstruct America; case in point bloom-jew taking over the school system. Now students graduating high school have to take a mountain of meaningless tests, and still they cannot write their name when they enroll in college. I have seen this for my self.
Just good ole American Jew hatred. Good for you Patriot. Please turn in your guns. You are very danger to the community.
What should be limited is the weapons that governments can have. How many were murdered by individuals in the 20th century? How many by governments? I rest my case.
You people are giving to much credit to Bloom-nuts. You are assuming he knows what “depleted uranium rounds” are. He doesn’t. He knows absolutely “NOTHING” about weapons…period! And yet, you people of New York are letting this idiot make decisions about owning firearms that the founding fathers of our country put into the Constitution, the most important document our country has ever written.
Yes Bloomburg is an idiot. He should be fired!
I can’t believe what I’m reading. I don’t know all of what Bloomberg said but it’s certainly possible to launch a Nuke from an M1 tank. They’ve been doing that for decades.
I can’t believe what I’m reading. I don’t know all of what Bloomberg said but it’s certainly possible to launch a Nuke from an M1 tank. They’ve been doing that for decades. Look up the M-28 Davy Crockett. It’s a nuke that’s shot from a tripod like a mounted rifle. Or the Upshot-Knothole Grable, it’s an 11″ shell shot from a howitzer. My guess is that the ones all bent out of shape are retards.
So yes the M1A2 does fire a tactical nuke round.