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Maine Cops on Constitutional Carry: GTFO

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For those of you who wonder why I’m fundamentally antagonistic towards LEOs (and can’t play a Flash video on your smart phone) the video above features a squad of Maine State cops telling the world that Pine Tree State residents shouldn’t be able to exercise their natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms (concealed) without their approval. Do they even know their objections violate their Constitutional oath and disrespects all those who sacrificed to protect our rights? In other words, they’re either ignorant bastards or self-serving sanctimonious pricks. Just sayin’ . . .

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. Reading the Constitution and Bill of Rights has really enhanced my understanding of the way our country should operate.

    Those in political leadership at this time have either not read it, and are ignorantly betraying the words upon which our nation was founded, or have read it and are actively disregarding principles our citizens should hold most dear.

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  2. Born, raised, spent the first 30 years of my life, and still own property in Maine. I love my home and hope to go back there someday. Cops like this embarrass the rest of us. I have active LE in my immediate family up there and I grew up with a healthy respect for the law because of it, but it seems lately that I lose a bit of respect for LE each day because of things like this. The real crux of the issue with these jokers is that they are all sherriffs in the south 1/3 of the state and are completely out of touch with the bulk of the population. Those of us from the real Maine call that area “Boston North”

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  3. I think very few cops give a rat’s ass about the oath they took. They took it as a formality so they could start getting a paycheck.

    Try walking up to a cop in a friendly, non-confrontational manner and ask them about their oath. Chances are, you’ll get no answer at all.

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  4. I’d be fine with a shall issue permit system provided they make the same requirements (restrictions) for voting. If you had to pay $10/year and take a voting safety course to vote it would weed out the idiots, and after all, you can do far more damage with your vote than you can with a gun. Heck, I’d settle for a simple qualifying test. How about if you want to vote in a national election you should be required to name the party that currently controls the house, the senate and presidency, and a like test for state elections. That wouldn’t be considered an “infringement” now would it? Or maybe we should scrap the “shall issue” concept and go back to letting the local sheriff decide who can vote and who can’t?

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    • This comparison doesn’t work. Getting a CC where I live is easier than registering to vote. Sadly we let a bunch of neocon nutbags install voter ID last year (and a lot of good it did them), but hopefully we’ll repeal that next year.

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      • I have no issue with voter ID. In fact, I want it and advocate for it. Every human system has fraud, and voter ID would cut down on it. Just ask the corpses who voted for Obama. Or there is the laughable “prove their is voter fraud” folks when we don’t ID people. I’ve asked plenty of people without their licenses who they were, and I’ve got plenty of lies.

        Regarding illegals all being hard workers, that is simply another stereotype. Try investigating and locating hit and run drivers, murders, and serious crimes in the LA area. Illegal immigrants are well represented in the prison system. I also don’t see many undocumented citizens clamoring to pay taxes, but free education, health care, and other social services are just fine.

        You can call me a racist or a realist, the fact of the matter is that illegal immigration has both huge problems and huge benefits.

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        • Finally, a rational, nonracist based immigration issue response. Well done sir/madam.

          As a semiO-FWG, who happens to be liberal leaning but also a CHL holder, I’m not above requiring ID to vote.

          Call me weird, but I don’t support non-US citizens being able to vote. Regardless of what their nationality is. Do I recognize that a ton of illegal immigrants are here trying to make their and their families lives better? You bet. Should they have a say in how this country is run? Nope.

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  5. The Mosin is not ugly. It’s not sleek and sexy, but neither is a ’97 Cheyenne 3500. Neither are ugly.

    Hmmm… all that effort making my own mag extender for my 91/30, and NOW someone starts selling ’em.

    Oh, well; had I waited, I’d likely still be waiting – per the Law o’ Murph.

    It’s nice to see that the aftermarket cares about an old warhorse.

    “…an Angel gets its wings.” Nice.

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  6. Maybe I’m missing something here, but I don’t see what’s so wrong with keeping up a permit system for concealed carry. As long as permits are shall-issue and not subject to the whims of local law enforcement — and assuming open carry is legal by default (as it ought to be) — it helps ensure that there’s a clear line between the good guys and the bad guys.

    So…tell me what I’m missing.

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    • Nothing. Good, right minded people that are passionate in many areas of debate fail to think strategically, and instead approach the gun rights fight with an “all or nothing” attitude. I’d rather win quietly 98% of the time than lose loudly all the time.

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      • OK, I thought you were a “lives under a bridge” type from your other comments, but now I know for sure. Thanks for clarifying.

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    • There’s a reason why certain states that have adopted unlicensed concealed carry, just so happen to call it “constitutional carry.” It’s because concealed carry laws are unconstitutional. You have the right to bear arms – not “the right to bear arms, exposed at all times.”

      Let’s be honest. The majority, if not all, firearms laws on the books, directly violate the second amendment. Concealed carry laws are one of the top offenders.

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    • All good points, and I do agree that in an ideal world we could all carry however we wanted with no permits, but this is not that world. Being able to mostly exercise the right as it was intended is better than being technically right about something you can’t do.

      Whether concealed carry permits by themselves violate the Constitution is arguable. There is that “well regulated militia” part that says the government gets to set some rules (not the ones the prohibitionists want, but rules and standards nonetheless). Registration of some sort could conceivably be part of it; not that I’m all for it, but how else would anyone know who the militia is, much less organize or train it? On the other hand, if the *only* way you can carry is by registering with the state for concealment permit, that’s likely unconstitutional. In states where open carry is a legal option for everyone by default, I think that could satisfy the constitutional requirement, as it makes licensing optional.

      Anyway, I’ll keep thinking about it.

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  7. I recently thought about refinishing the stock on my 91/30. It looks like hell, the stain is uneven and very thick in some areas. You can tell the varnish was hastily slathered on, probably by some fat Russian woman with beefy hands in the Izhevsk factory.

    I decided to leave it just the way it is; it adds character to the rifle IMO.

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  8. Not to be contrarian, but where was the EMS communication facility in relation to the blast zone? Their base, equipment, etc?

    I understand losing an ambulance can run hundreds of thousands.

    I’d love to participate but only if the money is going where it’s needed. We all know that civil servants are not above using a tragedy to help their own causes. (Saying this as a brother to two LEOs and a former volunteer EMT; so no crying liberal bias.)

    And, if I can use a .22 as that’s the only rifle I have.

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  9. At the beginning of the video the voice refers to the recently defeated US Senate bill as a “bi-partisan bill”. I suppose that is to give the bill more of an air of validity. They always fail to mention that the opposition to the bill was bi-partisan as well. Who’s got the numbers? I suspect the opposition was more bi-partisan than the support for the bill. (i.e. more Dems crossed over than Reps).

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  10. …they’re either ignorant bastards or self-serving sanctimonious pricks.

    What if they’re neither ignorant nor self serving? What if, instead, they’re fascist control freaks? What if they’ve fallen prey to the corrupting influence of power? What if they think that because they have badges that makes them our overlords?

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  11. “The Polymer we use is not being used by anyone and the properties make it quite expensive, these aren’t your fathers Magpul magazines” – your words…

    Well, then if the polymer is the main cost, why are 10/20/25 rd magazines all the same price… $69.99..? But SR-25 mag “Pre-orders” are $40… If you get my drift… Even someone with a “grunts” humor should understand that… Plus the AR mags, which are $30..?

    Not to mention, mags are expendable items… If it can be easily fixed, fix. If not, discard and replace. Its not rocket science…

    And if I step on my FN mag, nothing really happens. Drop a weapons case on it? Nothing really… And if it gets shot in combat, I’m probably not really concerned about it, more about staying alive…

    And since you bring up the point of shooting the magazines… Wouldn’t the magazines be loaded with ammunition most of the time when they get shot? Aka, in a magazine pouch, on someone’s body, and loaded with ammuniton? So your test of shooting an empty magazine doesn’t really hold much water… And since you only need to file down the holes and find a spare magazine spring to get the MLI magazine back in the fight (we all know that spare magazine springs are just laying all around…), I’m kind of lost…

    Not to mention, for the price difference I’ll take two FN mags for one MLI mag… Instead of spending time buffing out the bullet holes and procuring a new MLI magazine spring, I’ll just replace the magazine with a spare…

    Away, you’ve got your marketing gimmick, congratulations on the dawn of a new era 6 months late – those 3rd party vendors can really bite you… Some people actually remember what your boss Chris Gleason Facebooked to people about those vapor mags shipping in December… You can spray your pretty perfume and skatly clad ladies all you want… But the stink is still there…

    But since you made it clear you and Molon Labe don’t care what anyone thinks unless they give you money… It’s a moot point…

    Cheers – Rhino

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  12. I like how the one chief uses as his example of why permits are good a case where a guy filed one just after a protection order was lifted…

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  13. The Commerce Clause was never meant to be abused in this fashion and was not until the 1930’s. Now we have laws that use the CC to circumvent the Second Amendment. It was never intended to be used to create laws that dictate to a doctor how a surgery is performed because a scalpel crossed state lines.

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  14. I live in Waco and have friends affected by the explosion. The banks in west are taking donations as well for a “general relief fund”.

    State National Bank and Pointwest Bank in west both have funds.

    If I could attend I would. Thank you for posting this TTAG. I’m a new reader and this cements my stay here.

    -PHX

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  15. What a crock of sh*t….this just proves that the law is worthless and Cumo is trying to silence or appease groups of people who are pissed and may hit him later at the polls.

    The national carry thing for retired cops I get, it makes for good logic ( then again, it does for civilians also)…but this, there is no logical reason for it, except to stave off angry FOP groups in his and their next elections.

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  16. How about this? Every sheriff in New York state exercise posse comitatus and deputize every law-abiding adult citizen for a day. Due to budgetary constraint, these deputies provide the firearms of their choosing and are ever after “permitted” to carry these arms with more than seven rounds.

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  17. I submitted my paperwork on 30 March for a semi-automatic rifle. Still waiting and today my FFL dealer informs me to expect about another six weeks. Absurd; and IMO intentional to try to discourage law-abiding people from exercising their constitutional rights. There needs to be a class action lawsuit brought against the MSP and the state of MD for this. My FFL dealer also informs me that the Federal NTN # is typically taking THREE DAYS! All this waiting is on the MSP!

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  18. Grammar check: Threw, not through. (before the jump)

    Also, I’m disheartened, disgusted, and slightly amused that some of these people will try absolutely everything. At least they’re inconsistently persistent.

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  19. This is interesting. One could possibly try to argue that retired cops should be able to carry higher-capacity mags because they may be able to intervene in a crime if they witness it, so it’s a bit like having a “reserve” police force. But “assault weapons”? They can’t walk around with them, so it’s really for personal use rather than any public good. And if it’s more about some sort of reward for prior service rather than directly protecting the public after the retirement, what about the military veterans?

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  20. So, in Soviet New York, only retired gestapo are allowed to own guns?

    This X-cops only are allowed freedom splits the citizenship into Lords and Serfs. More directly, it dictates that New York citizens are slaves, and unworthy of the 2nd Amendment, while government officials, in fact- X government officials, are “More Equal” than others.

    The story ‘Animal Farm’ coming true right before your eyes…

    The Unconstitutional Illegal SAFE laws need deleted, even half senile old X-cops openly admit it is wrong, and use their political insider connections to get special favoritism while at the same time actively employed police are supposed to be arresting even Iraq & Afgan Veterans if they have more than 7 round weapons.

    And why do X-police want to keep their guns?
    For self protection against criminals.
    Wow! That’s a great idea! Everyone should have the Right to Self Defense !

    I hope this exceptional example of moral corruption does pass, because when the SAFE anti-law is finally overturned in court,
    All fascist anti-American laws will take one step closer to being struck down.

    Legal Citizens should not be punished for the crimes committed by criminals.

    The coorect answer is:
    Longer jail sentences for violent offenders, not punishment of the innocent armed citizens.

    Then retired police can live free from the worry of some angry dirt bag coming back after them in just a few years…

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  21. I have found rental ranges to be a great source of info. If a gun gets good review after being pounded by the public and haphazardly cared for by the range staff it’s a good bet that make will work well.

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  22. Have one in yellow (it makes me happy). Amazingly comfortable and concealable slipping into cargo pant pocket or inside sport jacket inner pocket. Planning on getting a Crimson Trace laser, just in case…those sights are very minimal, and my eyes aren’t what they used to be. I’m not a ‘carry guy’, but this, I could get used to.

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