Regardless of the circumstances leading to this shoot-out, keeping in mind that camera angles can be deceptive, it appears that both officers on the left are shooting towards the officer on the right. The officer across the street (on the right) runs towards the line of fire, ducking behind a car. Not recommended. Notice also the hits on the hood and the large spread of shots that strike that windshield. Where exactly was the perp at whom they were shooting? And why did the cops start shooting anyway? Was there any direct threat to the public or any officer’s life? Whitewash Investigation to follow.
Which explains why page 18 of Moving America Forward (the 2012 Democrat Party Platform) states that:
HE’S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!!!! BLAMBLAMBLAM!!!
Jesus. Those cops didn’t even take a moment.
Has anyone ever heard of a case where a homeowner refused to let fake cops in without a warrant? I’m curious what happened if such a thing has occurred…
Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam
Freeze!
Like others, reserving judgment, but sure as hell looks bad from that angle.
I’m reserving judgement until an investigation is concluded.It’s easy to play Monday morning quarterback, until one day it’s your ass on the field having to act in self defense.Then you get see how creative people can get in making you look like the scunbag.
And just like with cars, when you have someone who uses a gun illegally, they’re they ones who don’t have insurance. So the victims won’t get paid by the criminal…again…still.
“Man takes on post-apocalyptic world with .308 battle rifle and multitool”
The officer closest to the camera should not have been shooting at all. He was shooting directly towards some cops across the street and the vehicles following behind the red car. It looks like as the camera is panning that one guy gets out and starts point and yelling at Dirty Harry. If your line of fire is not clear, then you just don’t start shooting. This is not Baghdad 2003 last time checked.
From this one vid, it seems like they were in the “right” to shoot (assuming everything is true from the audio), but they did a crappy job of it, you know, with the cross-fire and all. At 00:38 seconds, the cop/driver of the pursuing SUV is PISSED!
That being said, I wasn’t there, I didn’t have a gun pointed at me and they will be doing their investigation (which will most likely involve asking whether they should have shot at all because they did have the “perp” out gunned.) I don’t know, too many assumptions. BTW, this comment is in no way pro or anti-cop. Just looking at it while drinking a beer.
The bill stands about as much chance of passing here in Missouri as a snowball has of not melting in Hades. It’s just pointless political theater. We all know it. Will make her supporters feel like she is “doing something.” She should spend her time trying to figure out why the University City area of St. Louis she represents has such a high rate of random acts of violence and crime, and no, it is not because little Billy and Susy’s mommy and daddy are not reporting their firearms at homes to their school.
Have I gotten so jaded that by watching this video, I can’t say: “gee this WAS heart-pounding”? It was more like: oh, cops (again), spike strip (again), pop pop pop pop (again), the end…
Sadly, that’s becoming routine. Especially in large cities. And most especially in California.
One thing that I notice is that the Police are awful marksmen. They fire like 50 shots to hit a suspect and never consider whats behind the suspect. There marksmanship requirements are to low. The indoor range I go to is also used by the local police for training. Seeing some of there paper targets scare me and don’t bother offering advice.
A minor quibble. San Diego ain’t LA. SDPD has a history of answering all perceived threat with excessive gunfire. The driver probably brandished a garden stake.
Or maybe a doobie.
I think all states could easily afford a compensation fund for all “accidental” shootings. If you eliminate criminal enterprise use of firearms and suicide, there isnt that much to cover.
Now if we could hammer the criminals using firearms, even if they are “children” and eliminate suicide as a personal choice not to be interfered with by society, guns wouldn’t be enough of an issue except for elites controlling the masses, which would reinforce the true purpose of the 2A.
Course with racial quota school discipline coming i have no hope of common sense being involved…
I feel like there should be a way to punish electoral officials that do stupid crap like this, but I don’t know how. I know, “voting,” but that doesn’t work thanks to the system that has been rigged over the decades to make sure that incumbents can basically do whatever they want and still get elected. I feel that if districts were square boxes uniformly distributed by population we wouldn’t have as many of these idiots as we do.
And there it is again: someone stating that a person who is shot is automatically a “victim” who deserves (or whose family deserves) a big payday.
In the mind of a gun prohibitionist, use of deadly force in self-defense is never justifiable.
Reminds me a lot of a Kel-Tec RFB, but with better fit-and-finish.
I have to give Kel-Tec credit for coming up with a lot of innovative guns, but they’re often unable to deliver a quality end-product.
When I saw the headline, I got all excited.
Alas, for naught.
Thanks again for an honest review that kept me from wasting money.
I think I will just keep using my trijicon for now.
I was really looking for some decent magnification.
Your review of the nikon seems to make my choice for me.
Why would I need insurance to own a gun in rural America? I don’t have to have a registered insured vehicle on my property either. This is not common sense. Common sense is a relative term. What is common sense to suburban gun free hoplophobes is not common sense to us. To really judge what is right and what should be done is to look at the issue philosophically (using logic) rather than sense. Many people have already done this (like John Locke) and philosophically, freedom and the lack of gun control, is the better lifestyle, better means, and better solution to crime today.
Aww, BS! That’s just a thinly-disguised way to shake taxpayers down for more money. It’s been tried before, and exposed for what it is. EPIC FAIL!
Wow
Sums up my reaction exactly, mind boggled.
there’s such a thing as compromise in this scenario. nobody wants to be exposed to that kind of thing at a shooting range and it’s completely reasonable to take certain steps to discourage it. my local ranges won’t rent to first-timers who come in alone without a gun of their own. this makes sense… i have no issues with this whatsoever. come in with a friend. ceasing renting altogether is ludicrous, though.
Could be worse, I suppose. My town finally got an indoor range after being without for years, because the last range closed after a rented gun suicide (although this was a 20 something girl who was there with family). The owner decided to close up after that, and the city commission was reluctant to ever permit a new one. The one we have now is on county land.
My Nepali buddy tells me its pronounced (something like) asaphal
This ugly thing would be a great companion gun to go with the $4000 .308 in the other thread. Why buy one ugly gun for $4000, when you can have two for only $6000!
For slightly more, you could have bought a real scope, albeit used, such as the swfa 1-4.
I just remembered that I have an old Webley out in the shop. I would grudgingly take $1,500 for it….
A first step towards what?
And again we have a writer who does not understand what the word “compromise” means.
From the Times of India:
I think I saved a guy’s life once. I was sitting at the coffee table with a few friends, and the owner of the house pulled a .38 revolver out from under the chair cushion and said how depressed he was because his wife. I kinda took the gun out of his hand, sort of, “Lessee that…”, unloaded it, and set it and the rounds on the coffee table. Part of me wanted to see what it looks like when a guy blows his brains out, but I didn’t put that little mental homunculus in my driver’s seat. (“Ooh, boy! I always wondered what that would look like! Hey, wait – go outside. You don’t want to shoot holes in your walls, and I don’t want to help clean up the mess!”)
This is exactly what the germans said to the Jews. Well allknow how that went. I will not give up my firearms.
^^^^this. Nothing scares me more than the phrase” we’re from the government and we’re here to help.”
Gun control is death by a thousand cuts. All she needs to do is keep reintroducing it, and pick up one more vote here and there. Then, when something does happen where a homicidal Prozac patient uses a gun, any gun, to kill some kid somewhere she’ll trot out her “legislation” to the hysterical masses and claim that her failed bills would have prevented the tragedy.
You can polish a turd, and you can turn coal into diamonds. All it takes is time and constant, unrelenting pressure.
Sheep need a shepherd, and the wolves are lining up to take the job.
So… only the legal guns will be registered. Also, a simple Dremel tool can make all that documentation disappear. This is effective how??
These people are NOT advocating an end to the 2A. They ARE advocating the end of the US Constitution. Lets stop with the PC BS. They want to end the Constitution and submit to a police state. The founding fathers did come up with the perfect fire arms legislation. It is also the teeth behind the US Constitution some old schoolers may remember as the 2A. As our founding fathers clearly intended to keep this nation free the only way to guarantee this was with the RKBA without this right the others would soon fall as well. These Leftist liberals (a.k.a. communists) are not attacking the 2A, please lets call it what it is they HATE the US Constitution!
More libatard stupidity!
Can you verify this story on something other than that Russian propaganda site?
I speak Urdu/Hindi… Can’t recall the word for fail off the top of my head, but the word “Bakwas” comes to mind.
Here it goes again……those that are gonna swear that “THIS” AR platform will be the best yet on a production rifle…..hell….I have an Armalite….I have a DPMS…..I have an AR that I built using mixed manufacturers though there are only so many barrel makers and I’m in the process of building two more AR’s……hmmm….I run anything and everything ammo wise that I can get my hands on thru these AR’s and no issues. And especially Tula and Wolf ammo though I like L.C. the most of course.
So…..I can build an AR for around $600.00 not counting a EOtech halographic sight (Another $600.00 with shipping)…that runs without hiccups….sort of like Glock’s in some peoples minds can’t run worth piss and are a complete waste of raw materials cause a Glock ain’t a Sig or an XD or a Kimber…what a crock!
Jesus…hasn’t anyone ever heard of cleaning your AR’s after using and lubricate well?! After a couple hundred rounds…clean and lube!!! What!! Ever wonder why there is that compartment area in a fixed AR stock?
I am not impressed.
The range at Camp Allen Marine Corps Base in Norfolk, VA has a 24-hour waiting period before you can even use their range due to a couple of suicides. If you go to the range for the first time you will have to take a gun safety and knowledge test and then wait 24 hours before you can use the range for the first time.
my old neighbor is a ww2 and Korean war vet and decorated soldier. he has a ruger 10/22 and 10/45 handgun.
One point this information makes very clear: You cannot stop anyone from getting guns.
If you cut off supply, those with enough power and money are able to manufacture their own.
And unlike the guns we own now, there is NO control over something that goes from start to finish on the black market… no serial number for the ATF or law enforcement agencies to track, no FFL bound books to check, no manufacturer keeping track of when it was made or what dealer it was sold to… nothing.
Cool!