Joe Rogan on the Perils of Trading Rights for ‘Safety’

Wesley Hunt is running for Congress in Texas’s 7th congressional district in the northwest area of Houston. He also recently appeared in the ‘Texas Reloaded’ video that got a lot of social media attention.

This exchange, regarding the loss of constitutional rights, took place near the end of the interview (2:21:16). The clip above should start at that point. It is as applicable to gun rights as it is to free speech.

Joe Rogan: I’m just glad that no one’s censored podcasts yet.

Wesley Hunt: I don’t think you’d let that happen, brother.

JR: I’m trying not to, but fuck, man! People get crazy, depending on who gets into…politics, gets into power. Look, there are dictatorships that are currently going on in this world. The idea that that could never happen here is preposterous. Human beings can fall into all sorts of traps. And they have throughout history. We are aware of those traps, and we think, ‘Well, that won’t happen to us.’

WH: We’re always one generation away.

JR: Yes. Or one tragedy away.

WH: Or one tragedy away.

JR: Or one decision that we make to give up rights in order to have safety. And then…boom. Next thing you know, someone’s checking all your emails.

WH: Yep

JR: Guess what, you can’t express an opinion.

Joe Rogan Experience with US Congress candidate Wesley Hunt

comments

  1. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

    “Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)”

    As valid today as when Mr. Dr. Franklin said it.

    1. avatar TheUnspoken says:

      Unfortunately the safety gained is only the appearance of it anyway, there can be no true safety from determined enemies, terrorists, or suicidal people who just want to kill anyone and everyone and don’t care if they die themselves. No punishment or threat can deter someone who is not planning to make it out alive anyway.

      1. avatar KJ says:

        Very true. If you COULD trade liberty for safety, it might be a fair trade. Unfortunately, the real trade is ACTUAL liberty for the FEELINGS of safety. That’s the best they can offer, and it’s not the same thing.

        Fun fact: you can change your FEELINGS without giving up anything.

      2. avatar DaveL says:

        It’s instructive to think about what goes on in a maximum security prison. There, you have no freedom and barely any rights. You can’t even have a full-sized pencil, lest you use it as a weapon. Every door is locked, all of them from the outside. Surveillance is everywhere, and there is no privacy.

        Yet a maximum-security prison is not a safe place. For all the rights taken from the inmates, they don’t enjoy any dividend of personal safety. When people talk about trading freedom for safety, the freedom being taken and safety being gained typically belong to two very different groups of people.

        1. avatar BURT Dirty IV says:

          Very true and very insightful

        2. avatar PM in Fl. says:

          DaveL : I never thought of it that way, you’re 100% right on target.

      3. avatar Hush says:

        True indeed and no law has ever prevented a crime either..

      4. avatar Mr Lucky says:

        To paraphrase ‘Fernando’ from SNL – It is always better to FEEL safe than to BE safe.[/sarc]

    2. avatar Darkman says:

      It took Great Men to defeat the Tyranny of the English Crown. It took Great Men to defeat the Tyranny of Germany and the Central Powers of WW I. It took Great Men and Women to defeat the Tyranny of the Nazi’s and Imperial Japan in WW II. Once again Our nation faces Tyranny except this time it comes from within Our own borders. Socialist Liberal Democrats that work to destroy the very fabric of Our Nation by destroying and rewriting Our history. Attacking Our Constitution and the Freedoms it entails. In this time of strife where once again Tyranny rears it’s ugly head in an effort to destroy all that has made Our Nation Great.
      “In the great journal of things happening under the sun, we, the American People, find our account running, under date of the nineteenth century of the Christian era. We find ourselves in the peaceful possession, of the fairest portion of the earth, as regards extent of territory, fertility of soil, and salubrity of climate. We find ourselves under the government of a system of political institutions, conducing more essentially to the ends of civil and religious liberty, than any of which the history of former times tells us. We, when mounting the stage of existence, found ourselves the legal inheritors of these fundamental blessings. We toiled not in the acquirement or establishment of them—they are a legacy bequeathed us, by a once hardy, brave, and patriotic, but now lamented and departed race of ancestors. Their’s was the task (and nobly they performed it) to possess themselves, and through themselves, us, of this goodly land; and to uprear upon its hills and its valleys, a political edifice of liberty and equal rights; ’tis ours only, to transmit these, the former, unprofaned by the foot of an invader; the latter, undecayed by the lapse of time, and untorn by [usurpation—to the latest generation that fate shall permit the world to know. This task of gratitude to our fathers, justice to ourselves, duty to posterity, and love for our species in general, all imperatively require us faithfully to perform.At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. I hope I am over wary; but if I am not, there is, even now, something of ill-omen amongst us. I mean the increasing disregard for law which pervades the country; the growing disposition to substitute the wild and furious passions, in lieu of the sober judgement of Courts; and the worse than savage mobs, for the executive ministers of justice. This disposition is awfully fearful in any community; and that it now exists in ours, though grating to our feelings to admit, it would be a violation of truth, and an insult to our intelligence, to deny. Accounts of outrages committed by mobs, form the every-day news of the times”. Abraham Lincoln
      “Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction.It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again”. Ronald Reagan
      I ask are “We the People” the generation that answers the call to Preserve and Protect the Cause of Freedom or one that allowed the ” Tree of Liberty to die for lack of care. If not Us who… If not Now when. Keep Your Powder Dry.

  2. avatar MADDMAXX says:

    Sounds like Joe left his California Liberalism at the state line… For now..

    1. avatar Tim says:

      I *wish*, but don’t believe that’s true. The self-professed bernie-bro is just fleeing the mob he helped create.

      1. avatar MADDMAXX says:

        That’s why I “qualified” the statement with…. “for now”

    2. avatar Chris T in KY says:

      The problem is did he bring his Left wing views with him, when he moved to Texas from California? He has said he doesn’t vote. But will he do so now?

      1. avatar Ben G says:

        On episode 1534, with guest Ron White, Rogan had this to say about his move to TX: “I’m gonna find nice Texas people who tell me how to vote. ‘I’ll vote, your way. I want to keep your thing going. Whatever you did to get this, like I want to keep this going.'”

        https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/09/joe-rogan-portland-seattle-need-law-and-order-like-texas/

    3. avatar GS650G says:

      Agree. Rogan may be waking up with a hangover.

  3. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

    “Joe Rogan: I’m just glad that no one’s censored podcasts yet.

    Wesley Hunt: I don’t think you’d let that happen, brother.”

    “Hate speech” laws, coming soon, if the Leftists could get way with it…

    1. avatar MADDMAXX says:

      It’s getting there, one US congressman has suggested that perhaps there should be a government agency to disseminate the news, a “Ministry of Truth” as it were…. Where have I read that before?

      1. avatar Dude says:

        Three years of fake news pushing the Russia Collusion Narrative seeded by the Clinton campaign…Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube: Yawn

        One major breaking story that might make the democrat candidate look bad…Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube: HOLD EVERYTHING! FACT CHECK!!

    2. avatar WARFAB says:

      Joe Rogan is already having issues with Spotify removing certain episodes of his podcast and Spotify employees threatening to quit because they don’t like some of his content.

      1. avatar Dude says:

        Past episodes of many TV shows are no longer available in order to placate the whiny, left wing mob. This will only get worse. They can’t survive without finding new things to be outraged about.

        1. avatar I Haz A Question says:

          Anyone notice how Disney’s classic movie “Song Of The South” has been memory-holed over the past decade? I’ve asked a few people I know who are in their mid-30s or younger, and none of them have ever even heard of it, or the once-famous song “Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah”, which actually won an Oscar for Best Original Song for that year.

          Now, in 2020? Das rayciss. Because reasons…

    3. avatar steelbones says:

      Take a look at House resolution 1154
      Rejecting Qonon and the conspiracy theories it promotes.

      Read through and you will see they have written a law that clearly violates the 1st amendment. The bill has five sponsors and I believe 3 of them are republicans.
      Rep. Denver Riggleman (R Va.)
      Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R Il.)
      Rep. Brian K. Fitzpatrick (R Pa.)

      1. avatar MADDMAXX says:

        That (R) can also stand for RINO….

  4. avatar Shire-man says:

    They don’t even want “safety” anymore. It’s all about “free” shit.
    These people would jump onto the slave ships and chain themselves in if Bernie told them there was “free” shit across the ocean.
    Claiming they care about “safety” is giving them too much credit.

    1. avatar Dude says:

      Democrat candidates always do this, and voters continue to fall for it. I’m still looking for that $2,500 I was supposed to save on health insurance. Instead, you got crappy insurance that was less affordable if you worked too hard and didn’t get those subsidies. Then if you declined said crappy, expensive insurance, you were “taxed,” with that money going to the ultra wealthy insurance companies!

      Now I’m seeing Biden ads doing the same thing. Promising free money to everyone with very specific dollar amounts. Don’t worry he’s going to grab it from those super greedy corporations! You know, the ones that support him… *wink nod*

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Just last night he was carrying on about how much free shit he could give away once he raised the maximum tax rate back to 39.6%, like it was pre Trump. He stopped there, right when I was expecting him to explain why he paid $300,000 on an income of $19 Million in 2019. If he thinks that 39.6% is the “fair share” of incomes over $400,000, why did he pay only 1.5%, and doesn’t he owe the free stuff fund over $7 million, and when is he going to pay it?

        1. avatar Ray says:

          Haven’t you heard????? “Math is “Racissssst!” By cheating on his taxes he’s pandering to BLM, Antifa, Libs, & Dimocrats all at the same time.

  5. avatar Mortimer Beetroot Plimpton says:

    The great Dietrich Bonhoeffer, at age 27, said it best in 1933 Germany:

    “…peace is confused with safety. There is no way to peace along the way to safety. For peace must be dared. It is the great venture. It can never be safe. Peace is the OPPOSITE of security”.

    1. avatar GunnyGene says:

      Peace is that short period of time when everyone pauses to reload.

      1. avatar Ron says:

        Peace is simply the time you have to prepare for the next war.- Napoleon Bonaparte.

    2. avatar Chris T in KY says:

      It has always been guns that have kept the peace. And the guns in the hands of good people. And many folks just can’t face the truth.

  6. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    I enjoy most of Joes podcasts. He interviews some of the most interesting people.

    I’ve also seen videos of him training at Taran Tactical. He’s a very good shooter.

    1. avatar The Crimson Pirate says:

      I’m a podcast addict. I listen to Stephan Molynuex, Joe Rogan, and Jordan Peterson on my drives to work. If I get caught up on those then there are some others I will load up. I switched over to podcasts in 2014 or so after about 10 years of audio books.

      With Rogan I typically skip the comedy and MMA ones, but I listen to most of the rest. If I find someone interesting or they mention someone else he has talked to that sounds interesting I will go and look up past podcasts with that person.

      Rogan still doesn’t understand economics, but he does understand human biodiversity and meritocracy. If we could get him educated on economics he would be all good.

      I’m listening to his last one with Cameron Hanes now. Cam and that special forces guy (sorry, his name eludes me at the moment) have been slowly red pilling him over the years. Next up I have the latest one with Graham Hancock. Graham doesn’t come out and say it but I have gathered from his past podcasts that he is anti government and pro individual. He has made some Ancap style statements before.

      When I get home tonight I will download the next batch, to include the one in this article.

  7. avatar enuf says:

    “JR: I’m trying not to, but fuck, man! People get crazy, depending on who gets into…politics, gets into power. Look, there are dictatorships that are currently going on in this world. ”

    Yes, there are dictators around the world. And who cozies up to them?

    Trump!

    Rodrigo Duterte, Dictator, Philippines
    Trump had a phone call with Filippino President Duterte, and apparently in an unscripted moment, invited him to the White House. Duterte is an admitted mass murderer, known for his extrajudicial killings of hundreds of drug users in his battle against the drug trade.

    Saddam Hussein, Dictator, Iraq
    Trump said during his campaign that the Iraq War was a failure, and the world would be better off with Hussein in power. “He was a bad guy — really bad guy,” Trump said during a December 2016 rally. “But you know what he did well? He killed terrorists. He did that so good. They didn’t read them the rights. They didn’t talk. They were terrorists. Over. Today, Iraq is Harvard for terrorism.” Trump also said of Hussein using chemical weapons to massacre as many as 5,000 Iraqi Kurds, “”Saddam Hussein throws a little gas, everyone goes crazy, ‘oh he’s using gas!'”

    Kim Jong Un, Dictator, North Korea
    Despite North Korean missile tests and even talk of potential war with the country, Trump still has kind words for Kim. “And at a very young age, he was able to assume power,” he said. “A lot of people, I’m sure, tried to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anybody else. And he was able to do it. So obviously, he’s a pretty smart cookie.”

    Vladimir Putin, Dictator, Russia
    Trump has infamously never said an unkind word about Putin, a leader known for human rights abuses, since becoming a candidate for president. As a candidate, Trump repeatedly called Putin a stronger leader than President Barack Obama. “You can say, ‘Oh, isn’t that a terrible thing,’ I mean, the man has very strong control over his country,” Trump said at a national security forum in 2016. “Now it’s a very different system, and I don’t happen to like the system, but certainly in that system he’s been a leader, far more than our president has been a leader.” In an interview with MSNBC, Trump didn’t change his tune when reminded that Putin has had journalists and dissenters killed, instead saying, “I think our country does plenty of killing, also.”

    Bashar al-Assad, Dictator, Syria
    Although Trump bombed a Syrian airfield in April in response to a gas attack on Syrian civilians, he previously praised Assad as being a stronger leader than Obama, and for fighting ISIS. “I think in terms of leadership, he’s getting an A and our president is not doing so well,” Trump said in September 2015.

    Moammar Gaddafi, Dictator, Libya
    Gaddafi’s forces were accused of being responsible for war crimes before he was captured and killed by rebels in 2011. “We would be so much better off if Gaddafi were in charge right now,” Trump said during a Republican debate in February 2016. “If these politicians went to the beach and didn’t do a thing and we had Saddam Hussein and if we had Gaddafi in charge, instead of having terrorism all over the place, we’d be — at least they killed terrorists, all right?” Trump went on. “And I’m not saying they were good, because they were bad, they were really bad, but we don’t know what we’re getting.”

    Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Dictator, Turkey
    Turkey narrowly passed a referendum that grants Erdogan a great deal of additional powers, pushing the country away from democracy and toward authoritarianism. Trump called Erdogan to congratulate him on the victory. He also invited Erdogan to the White House.

    Benito Mussolini, Dictator, Italy
    Trump retweeted a quote from the fascist Axis power dictator, then defended it in an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I want to be associated with interesting quotes,” Trump said of the retweet, and stated it didn’t matter who said it.

    Abdel Fattah el-Sissi, Dictator, Egypt
    Though it’s known that el-Sissi has ordered the murders of his opponents and has clamped down on dissent and women’s rights, Trump invited the Egyptian president to the White House in April. During the meeting, Trump said, “I’ve had a deep appreciation and admiration of your unique personality, especially as you’re standing very strong in the counter-terrorism field.”

    1980s Communist Chinese Government
    Trump’s authoritarian-praising comments go back decades. He called the Chinese government’s 1989 massacre of protesters a show of strength. “When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it,” Trump said in a 1990 interview in Playboy. “Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength.”

    1. avatar former water walker says:

      Getting paid by the word troll? Quite a diatribe! Hint: we don’t care. Quoting Rogan are we TTAG? Doofus can’t tell a 100lb dumbbell is fake😃😎😕

      1. avatar enuf says:

        221,567 Americans Dead So Far On Trump’s Watch!
        https://www.bing.com/covid/local/unitedstates

        And still Trump denies all responsibility or even that the problem itself exists!

        1. avatar MADDMAXX says:

          And still Trump denies all responsibility

          Have you read Cuomos new book, highest single state death rate in the country AND some entire countries, piled sick people into Nursing Homes instead of taking advantage of TRUMPS help, no patients at the 1,800,000 sq ft Javits Center and only two on the 2000 bed Navy Hospital Ship Comfort… Yet, HE blames everyone on the planet (including the POTUS who gave him thousands of fully staffed hospital beds, had auto makers building respirators AND liquor distillers making hand sanitizer) except himself, BRAGS about the GREAT job HE did… Must be a NY thing… AND while the Senate was shut down with that “impeachment” farce (which is looking more and more senseless daily with the release of the Hunter emails) Trump was locking down travel from China and Europe while Creepy “Big Guy” Uncle Joe called him a xenophobe and a racist saying it was unnecessary as “off her meds” Nancy and Komrad DumbASSio invited people out to party in their respective China towns… YOU want to blame Trump, okay, but at least have the balls to admit that those freaks were EQUALLY to blame AND that the Biden plan IS the TRUMP plan PLUS shutting down the entire country indefinitely AND a national (unconstitutional) mask mandate…. The BIGGEST mistake TRUMP made was putting Herr Fauchi in charge, I didn’t trust that clown from the start and now I’m being proven right…

    2. avatar Debbie W. says:

      enuf…YOUR attempts at guilt by association do not hold water. Think of the millions who have endured unmentionable suffering and horror under Communism, etc. And to think you and your vote wind up lint licking marxist democRats. You really know how to pee on the graves of the innocent don’t you little man?

    3. avatar Dude says:

      Emotional democrat voters: Scary words! Make them stop!

      Logical republican voters: What are the policies and outcomes?

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Fair warning, here! I may find a need to steal that.

    4. avatar C.S. says:

      “words have meaning” right? I’d much rather judge on actions on words, lets see…:

      Trump brought in billions of corporate capital back into the US, much of which went directly to low income and blue collar workers.

      Trump renegotiated trade agreements with all of the US’s major trading countries saving billions of dollars in trade deficits.

      Trump made the US completely energy independent, except for stupid states on the west code.

      Trump has negotiated with Mexico to put thousands of additional Mexican troops on the border and has significantly worked to combat drug, child and sex trafficking (and Mexico is paying for it…)

      Trump has reduced overseas troop deployments and have instead negotiated with other countries on security so we don’t have to be the world’s policeman.

      Trump negotiated ground breaking peace deals in the middle east.

      I could go on…

      Probably the worst things Trump has done was not initially initially retaliating with Iran when they were hijacking oil tankers, but he quickly learned.

      He also has maintained a very weird and uncomfortable relationship with Dr Rocky and the NIH, _despite_ many of the NIH members having clear conflicts of interest with Gilead and have been intentionally silence on many Covid treatments including HCQ, Ivermectic, Vitamin D, Zinc, that have actually shown to be more effective than Remdesivir in many studies. The Anti-Trumpers in the government have literally been killing Americans to make COVID-19 in the US worse than it could have been, and then trying to blame it on Trump. In the most egregious case, they literally OD’d people on HCQ by giving them >10 times the normal dosage _daily_. There is _no_ reason why we need a lockdown anymore, we need to wear masks and get on with our lives.

      But go ahead and keep lying to yourself about who’s totalitarian. The Left is sick.

      1. avatar Dude says:

        (Clueless) Obama: “He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’ Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer.”

        Trump: “Hold my wand.”

        1. avatar Dyspeptic Gunsmith says:

          Negotiation is the one area where Trump has proven to be far more skillful than the entire State Department and the cadre of Ivy League graduates with sharp creases in their pants.

          How?

          Because Trump is willing to walk away. It doesn’t take brilliance or Jedi-level mind tricks to win at negotiation – just a willingness and ability to say “No, thanks, we’re done here” and then walk away.

          Consider Trump’s recent success in the middle east. How did he get the UAE and Bahrain to fully recognize Israel? By walking away from the “deal” and “process” that people assumed was a “must” in order to accomplish anything in the middle east: some deal that includes the Palestinians.

          Anyone who is an adult can see the Palestinians are the middle eastern equivalent of a toddler who throws his food around the kitchen. The way to deal with toddlers who do this is to a) ignore the behavior, and b) under no circumstances reward the behavior. Trump ignored the Palestinians and thereby put the Palestinians on notice that time is running out for them to grow up and engage in an adult fashion. How did Trump get this? By walking away from the “process” that the “professionals” in DC have been claiming was ‘necessary’ for over 20 years.

          Another area where the “walk away” tactic works is with women, especially beautiful women. They’re used to men fawning over them, trying anything and everything to win favor. The man that can say “Nope, see ya” to these women often find that the woman is suddenly very interested in him, because 99% of men refuse to walk away or ignore these women, and the man that walks away is different.

    5. avatar Void says:

      That is a fascinating word salad and changes my worldviews, voting Trump now!

    6. avatar Chris T in KY says:

      “Moammar Gaddafi, Dictator, Libya”
      You forgot to mention the Democrat Party headed by a black president Obama, and a white woman, Hillary Clinton. Both had the Libyan leader murdered. And they helped restart the black African slave trade in that country. In the 21 first century.

      1. avatar Dude says:

        Chris, you’re referring to policies and outcomes. Clueless, emotional democrat voters are much more concerned with scary words.

      2. avatar SAFEupstateFML says:

        Chris I think we may be reading a lot similar books/reports. Have you run into any Tuareg connections to various foundations?

    7. avatar Anymouse says:

      Trump says some dead dictators were effective against terrorists, and your nose gets out of joint. Obama declared “lines in the sand” and then did abdolutely nothing when they were crossed, so Assad was objectively more effective for doing something. China’s crushing of Tiananmen protest was vicious and horrible, but the Communists are still there, so it was an effective application of strength. The Mussolini quote was “It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep.” Can there be no truth in anything he said because he was a bad guy, or must we embrace cancel culture and pretend it doesn’t exist? Do we have to condemn the Autobahn and Volkswagen because they’re from Hitler?

      Meanwhile, Biden supports a current strong Communist China, has family that benefits from that policy, and you’re happy with it. You truly disgust me.

    8. avatar The Crimson Pirate says:

      Most of the ordinary people in Iraq, Syria, and Libya wish the old dictators were back. When the communist Obama/Biden/Clinton admenstruation murdered them, those countries were thrown into chaos and endless civil war.

      It also set the stage for the Clinton gun running with Turkey as part of pushing Assad out. The Erdogan albatross hangs from the neck of the communist democrat part and Hillary Clinton.

      Removing those roadblocks and ensuring endless conflict drove the migration of fighting age young men from the middle east and Africa into Europe and the united states.

      Don’t forget that it was Somali “refugees” that voted in the man who cast the deciding vote on the (un)affordable care act

      So Trump is right, those were bad guys, but everyone was better off with them. We should stay out of other country’s business. We need to get our own house in order and not be the neighborhood Karen trying to run the HOA.

      1. avatar Dude says:

        Democrats are still salivating at the chance to “fix” Syria, and daring our NATO ally, Turkey, to cross their line in the sand.

        1. avatar LarryinTX says:

          Really? Why don’t they buy a rifle and a plane ticket?

        2. avatar Dude says:

          They prefer to send young republicans to do their dirty work for them.

      2. avatar Miner49er says:

        “Most of the ordinary people in Iraq, Syria, and Libya wish the old dictators were back. When the communist Obama/Biden/Clinton admenstruation murdered them, those countries were thrown into chaos and endless civil war.”

        Help me out here, which aold dictators in Iraq, Syria and Libya did Obama/Biden/Clinton murder?

        Didn’t the Republicans fight two wars against dictator Saddam Hussein in Iraq, terminating with handing him over to the Iraqis so they could hang him?

        Isn’t Assad still in power in Syria (with Putin’s blessing)?

        After Reagan missed assassinating Kadaffi with F-14 tomcats in Libya, wasn’t he killed many years later by Libyan rebels?

        Amazing revisionist history in your alternate universe.

        1. avatar Dude says:

          “wasn’t he killed many years later by Libyan rebels?”

          So when Hillary Clinton says “we,” she’s referring to herself a Libyan rebel? Thanks for explaining that!

        2. avatar Dude says:

          “We”

      3. avatar MADDMAXX says:

        Clinton gun running with Turkey as part of pushing Assad out.

        Which is what got Chris Stevens killed… Well, that and an obscure video about Mohammed that no one ever saw…….

      4. avatar Chris T in KY says:

        There is no peace movement in the USA. Kennedy sent 16,000 “advisors” to Vietnam. And Johnson would later send half a million. Clinton bombed thousands of Serbians who never harmed any American. Obama/Biden expanded war and dropped more bombs than Bush did.

        In the Philippines the leader there told everyone to kill drug dealers and users. If they didn’t turn themselves in for treatment. Now it was the Libertarians turn to interfere in the affairs of a sovereign country.

        It all depends on who’s is gorged.

        I say let the white Europeans put each other back into gas chambers. I don’t care. Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Japanese not the Germans. Let the Africans hack each other to death with manchettes. I don’t care. I spent 22 years in the Army. The military is mostly conservative. And the Liberals say so. Let the Liberals or Libertarians go fight for a change. Since they want to tell other countries how to conduct their internal affairs.

        1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

          Sorry I’m meant to say let the Africans hack each other to death with machetes. Since gun ownership is illegal in most African states. You really can kill several hundred thousand people with just edge weapons. It just takes several weeks to do it.

          Even with guns you can run out of ammunition. As the Muslim Turks did during their genocide against the Armenian Christians. One and a half dead million. And the US did nothing to stop it.

    9. avatar Forp says:

      Barack Obama, United States president. Barack obama during his presidency sent ~$1billion dollars to the Iranian regime. Iran, best know for being the largest state funder of terror. Barack Obama also constantly bashed Israel (the only democracy in the middle east and one of the USA’s strongest allies).
      Barack Obama also started an illegal war in Libia without congressional approval.

      It seems to me that yours and my definition of dictator are different. Trump may say stupid things, but he got the China trade deal worked out. Trump pulled out of the Iran deal which was a garbage deal anyways. North Korea is more afraid of us now then when Barack was president. Trump has been harder on Russia than Barack. Trump allows me to have more money in my pockets due to tax cuts.

      I would also like to ask, what do you think Biden would’ve done better? Biden has had quite possibly the worst record on foreign policy of any politician.

      1. avatar MADDMAXX says:

        Biden has had quite possibly the worst record on foreign policy of any politician.

        You DO realize that you are talking about the guy whose family has amassed fortunes from his “foreign policy” AND according to some recently released emails the “Big Guy” has done quite well too, taking half of Hunters salaries and other financial instruments that were held for him til he left office 2017 (why he didn’t run against Hilary?) Now Creepy old “Big Guy” Uncle Joe is living large as a direct result of his “Foreign Policies”…

        1. avatar Dyspeptic Gunsmith says:

          Biden has literally been on the wrong side of every major geopolitical development since he first took office in the 1970’s. The man has an astonishing track record of people wrong. Most people, working without any competence, will occasionally enjoy some modicum of success based on mere chance.

          Not Joe. He’s worked hard to find the wrong side of every major geopolitical development, and then take that side.

        2. avatar MADDMAXX says:

          His family finances say that HIS particular brand of foreign policy has been HIGHLY successful… Yeah geopolitically he’s a fucking nightmare but he knows how to suck up to foreign leaders and network his family globally… Are we ALL so sarcastically challenged?.. Any attempts at any level of humor are obviously not working (a joke ceases to be funny the second you have to start explaining)… So, yes I was TRYING to be a smartass playing off of the shitload of emails that implicate Creepy Uncle Joe (aka The Big Guy) in a number of his sons financial dealings with China, Russia, the Ukraine and other less than friendly foreign nations and Nationals… Which I saw as a very profitable and thus successful endeavor until of course rocket scientist Hunter blew it all wide open by leaving a laptop (probably got high and forgot where it was) with a hard drive full of shit that would blow the lid off of all the lies the “Big Guy” told about his knowledge of Hunters business dealings… Obviously I have failed (I blame it on old) and realize I should either label my jokes and sarcasms as such in the future OR just give up trying to convey my sarcasm in written form.. My apologies…

      2. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Just FYI, since you seem to have forgotten, Osama sent over $*150* billion to Iran, the $1 billion was only important because it had to be delivered *in cash*, notably in Euros because that was the currency what could be most easily spent by the terrorists Iran was funding with it. That amount in cash would get the killing started quicker.

    10. avatar Jimmy Beam says:

      Enuf the commie! Well said, Comrade! But sorry, Kamala won’t go down on you for vomiting out this word salad.

      1. avatar James Campbell says:

        He might be hoping for a BJ from Modonna (she may even take her teeth out).
        That whore promised BJs to anyone who voted demoKKKrat back in ’16.
        Trump/Pence 2020.

    11. avatar Burley says:

      How in the actual hell have you managed to conflate Trump with almost every modern dictator?! You are truly deranged. I agree that you have a right to say your asinine horse-hockey, but it is indeed, asinine horse-hockey. Please go fornicate solitarily.

  8. avatar John in FL says:

    Rogan 2024

    1. avatar Tim says:

      No thanks.

      1. avatar MADDMAXX says:

        No thanks.

        Amen.

  9. avatar LastOfTheOldOnes says:

    Enuf’s head contains contains a never ending compilation of Trump factoids and stories…

    I’m glad to see that Enuf is totally and completely awed by Trump’s greatness, as attested by his encyclopedic knowledge of all things Trump. It must take hundreds of hours a month just to keep up….I guess when it comes to the Trumpian universe, you must have a really gigantic brain just to keep up with King Donald… 🙂

    Enuf is a shining example of….

    1. avatar Void says:

      Why to reelect Trump

  10. avatar Roger J says:

    Says Joe Rogan 2 weeks before he votes for Biden.

  11. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    Joe Rogan is like many Libertarians. He’s not registered to vote. He doesn’t care to vote. He’s in fact proud of not voting.

    And as he admits in a recent discussion with Douglas Murray from England. Rogan stated that he never paid attention to who was mayor. Or who was on the city council. So when Los Angeles California where he lives turned into a sh!T whole, he wonders how it happened???

    The problem with Libertarians or anyone who believes that they don’t need to vote, is they get the government they deserve. Because they never even tried to have an effect in creating the government that they would prefer to have.

    Whenever I hear someone say you’re “voting for the lesser of two evils”. My responses so what human being on Earth is perfect?

    People point to former Congressman Ron Paul. Ron Paul is not perfect. I believe he’s 83 years old. I don’t want an 83 year-old as president. I don’t want anyone in their 80s as president. But apparently many people were willing to vote for Bernie Sanders who is 82 years old.

    It seems when you are personally affected by a sh#ty government, the libertarian all of a sudden realizes the truth that in fact you really do need to pay attention to who is mayor and who is on the city council.

    Now the question is since this libertarian moved from California to Texas. Will he work to keep Texas a free state? Or will he support people who would turn Texas into California from which he fled? Like his support for politicians who support drug legalization. Who are also the same politicians who support gun control and gun confiscation.

    And that just shows how lacking in reality Libertarians really are. Because they are the ones promoting a small government. So it stands to reason that they really should pay attention, to what goes on in the government closest to them. That is their local government. Mayors and city council members.

    Also if you support jury nullification? Then wouldn’t you also be registered to vote so that you would be on the access list for a possible jury duty?

    1. avatar Vic Nighthorse says:

      Joe Rogan has swayed the US public discourse in a slightly more rational direction. You on the other hand have voted for people that have helped run this country into an inescapable debt hole and ranted about how bad libertarians are in an obscure comment section.

      1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

        As long as Libertarians have gotten their legalized drugs. They have totally supported Democrats. Who also have spent tax payer money like drunken soldiers. California is your in debt, drug paradise.

        Libertarians even will praise cops who refuse to enforce drug laws. The same cops who enforce gun control laws.

  12. avatar Ralph says:

    It’s always fun when the Left eats its own. The problem is that the Left has a voracious appetite and sooner rather than later they must come for us.

  13. avatar Alan says:

    A passing note to those willing and ready to make the referenced trade, their rights for “safety”. The likelihood of the transaction is as follows. Safety undelivered, rights lost, having been unwisely traded for imagined “safety”.

  14. avatar Montana Actual says:

    I think Rogan has come a long way recently, especially when being vocal about leaving CA. However, I still see him as a bernie bro and always will. I just don’t trust his judgement.

    1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

      I don’t trust him either.

  15. avatar strych9 says:

    Rogan’s one of those people that I don’t think ever really believed a lot of the Progressive line. He said he was Progressive because it was an easy tag that went over well in his industry. To some extent he probably believed it like a teenager will tell you that they’re Liberal because they haven’t really thought about it and what else would they be? Did he agree with them on some things? To some extent but you can tell that any time he actually thought about it he came away with a different idea. Mostly I think he just played a part because otherwise his career was going nowhere.

    Rogan has expressed not just “banned thoughts” in Progressive circles but openly anti-Progressive ideas for years. Years. The kind of things that made you wonder how the woke mob hadn’t come for him yet. Hunting, fighting, politics, gender stuff… The answer to why they didn’t screw with him is probably that he’ll knock them the fuck out if they try and those people know it ’cause he’s been violently putting people to sleep since at least ’87 and a lot of it is on video. He was in the Olympic training program for TKD back the the early 1990’s and holds more legit-as-fuck black belts than I can remember off the top of my head.

  16. avatar Roger J says:

    Send him back to LA where he belongs.

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