“If serious gun-control legislation is passed in the next three years – and Biden is convinced it will – he will deserve the lion’s share of the credit.” Ah yes, Rolling Stone magazine. The same outfit that canned a Dan Baum piece on a machine gun shoot because publisher Jan Wenner didn’t consider it negative enough.
Needless to say, the Rolling Stone interview with Joe Biden is a big wet kiss to the current Veep and Presidential hopeful. Do they press Biden on his pig-ignorant advice on firearms and armed self-defense? They do not. But they do give “Double Barrel” Joe the chance to paint defeat as victory . . .
The biggest push since the inauguration has been on gun control. The president made you the point person, and yet the background-check measure failed in the Senate, even though it was supported by 90 percent of the American people. What does it mean that we can’t pass even the weakest measures to curb gun violence?
It means two things. One, that we have had an impact on the public’s thinking. If we did that poll a week before Sandy Hook, my guess is you wouldn’t have 90 percent of the American people. They said, “You have to do something.” So we’ve already won the battle with the American public on this, not just on background checks but on magazines, on assault weapons, et cetera. This is a case where the public is way ahead of Congress, and the Congress hadn’t figured it out, just like they were . . .
With gay marriage, obviously. Love that royal “we” in the question. Go team, go! Or, in this case, not. According to [He Must Be] Smokin’ [Something] Joe, the U.S. senate is the team that let the side down, if you know what I mean.
Is the Senate really that insulated from the rest of the country?
A lot of our colleagues – a few Democrats and a lot of Republicans who know better – thought, “The public hasn’t changed, if I vote with you, I get beat up. . . .” The 17 or 18 people I called and spoke to thought they would get in trouble supporting any additional, quote, “burden on gun ownership.” The ones who still said no, the four Democrats and remaining nine or 10 Republicans, they didn’t offer any substantive reasoning to be against it. In one form or another, they all said the same thing: “Joe, don’t ask me to walk the plank, because the House isn’t going to do anything, anyway.” The other one was, “Joe, I know it’s 85-15, 80-20, 90-10 in my state. You know how it works: The 10 percent that are against, they’re all going to be energized; they’re going to organize against me. And the 90 percent who are for it, it’s not going to be a determining vote for them.” My argument was, “You’ve got it wrong. The public has changed.” And guess what? It turns out we were right. To use the vernacular, there’s suddenly a lot of senators out there who have seen the Lord. You find out that the senator from New Hampshire is in trouble; she voted no. I can name you four senators who called me and said, “Jesus, I guess you were right – maybe we can find some other way of doing this. Can we bring this back up?”
Uh, no. As TTAG blogged, the post-vote propagandists who pimped polling data showing a backlash against Senators who voted against civilian disarmament were relying on biased methodology to reach a pre-determined conclusion. In other words, bullshit.
As the Dems will discover come the 2014 mid-terms.
So what’s the next move?
We’re going right back at it. The biggest thing that’s changed is that the people who were for the background checks are saying it will be a determining issue. There’s pace on the ball now; this is a different country. I’m convinced we’ll be able to bring this back up, and I’m convinced we can win this.
Can, not will. And yes. Yes they can. IF there’s another Newtown or similar. Stay vigilant my friends.
Jake F., you are a gentleman, a scholar, and a patriot. You showed class, good manners, and impeccable logic. Glad you’re on our side!
Well said Robert. And the comments to this excellent piece are some of the most thoughtful and relevant responses to an article I’ve ever read.
Good job everyone!
I really would like to know the wording of this poll (ABC/Washington Post). I’ve heard several different versions, but the actual poll (found here: http://www.langerresearch.com/uploads/1148a1GunsImmigrationandPolitics.pdf ) does not give the exact wording. In contrast, the Pew Research poll commissioned by Reason/Rupe (found here: http://reason.com/poll/2013/01/31/poll-americans-especially-young-ones-say ) actually gives the full questions and how they were asked. I’m reminded of a quote from my college stats professor: “67% of statistics are made up on the spot.”
I agree with the premise of this article. Every gun owner should have more training. No matter how trained you are you need more. Beyond that I can’t find anything to agree with, nor do I see anything beyond a weak and assumed link between the arguments presented and the title.
The section about women arming themselves against men is particularly alarming. He used data on *disarming men* as an argument against *arming women*. I can’t think of many things more preposterous. “Women don’t need to be armed because we can disarm their violent partners”, somewhat sexist as well. There was also an incident not too long ago where a violent partner violated the PPO, the courts did not confiscate his guns, and he killed his partner. You can’t trust your life to the enforcement of a law or the law enforcers.
SciAm has become unreadable for me because of the leftist slant that runs through everything they publish with a public policy angle. Their treatment of Lomborg’s Skeptical Environmentalist was a shameful case in point, and by no means atypical for the magazine in its current editorial form.
Before an attack/raid like this, you do a recon, and maintain that recon until the moment you go in. Always have eyes on the enemy position.
pretty much said it all