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It Should Have Been a Defensive Gun Use: Midtown Manhattan Edition

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A Pace University student was stabbed in the head by a NYC subway beggar on Monday after the student refused to provide a ‘charitable donation’ to the bum’s booze fund. The attacker is in custody and the student is expected to survive. This attack is atypical, because it didn’t happen in a back alley or seedy drug den, and it didn’t even happen in the middle of the night. Police say the violent mugging started out as some run-of-the-mill mid-afternoon panhandling, but the 42 year-old beggar turned violent when the 19 year-old student refused to give him money . . .

The bum jumped the kid and stabbed him in the head before wandering away. Police caught him soon after, and he’s in Ryker’s Island awaiting charges.

Any time an innocent, law-abiding person is viciously attacked on the street by a stranger, it should result in a DGU. At best the attacker will run like hell with no shots fired. At worst, the attacker will assume ambient temperature. Either way, the offender’s proclivity toward violent recidivism will be reduced.

This case should have been a DGU also, but for two incomprehensible laws. The first is peculiar to NYC, where the ‘little people’ (you and I) are prohibited from carrying concealed firearms for self-defense. Senators, city aldermen, real-estate moguls and movie stars can call in some favors and get a CCW permit, but there’s one rule for them and another rule for the rest of us. This needs to change in NYC, just like it has had to change in Chicago.

The second incomprehensible rule affects all of us:  the law that bars anyone under the age of 21 from possessing a handgun. I’ve never seen any logic in this. It’s not that nineteen year-olds can’t be trusted. In some jurisdictions you don’t even need to be 21 years old to be a gun-carrying police officer.

18 to 21 year-olds are trusted with all kinds of things: we trust them with the vote, with driving and paying their taxes, with property ownership, with marriage and child-rearing, with jury service and military service.

But in nanny-state ‘We Know What’s Best For You’ America, some have decided that we don’t trust them with handguns. The real problem is not that the nannies don’t trust them with guns; it’s that they’re afraid to trust any of us with guns. It’s just easier to single out the nineteen year-olds first.

Our advice to the unnamed 19 year-old student who’s expected to survive? GTFO from NYC, and as soon as you’re 21 get yourself trained up and tooled up.

Source: NY Daily News.

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  1. The entire culture of city dwellers is 180° from common sense and reason, as practiced by humanity occasionally for the past few millennia.

    The city logic regarding guns? ” Our violent metropolis would be MOGADISHU if we didn’t deny the right to keep and bear arms!”

    As repugnant as this sounds, the city dwellers fully believe that a dead victim of a criminal attack is simply the utilitarianist price paid for an overall safe society.

    Those of you whove spend your entire lives in Pro-Rights America, please be greatful every day for it.City life in Blue America really is like living in a foreign country.

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    • I think there is a lot Progressive lowest common denominator thinking going on as well. Progressive radical egalitarianism requires everybody to face the same risks. Everybody except the Nomenklatura that is. Since not all people will choose to exercise their right to bear arms it is unfair that part of the population that does will be safer than those who don’t.

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  2. This does need to change. There are too many stories like this where innocent people are stabbed by some homeless panhandler. I take the train my ride is usually 30-40 min & during off peak hours – no rush hour I’ve seen 3-5 panhandlers. Its a bet this Pace University student won’t bounce because if he got stabbed in/and from Queens he’s prob mid – low income, low info voter & PU is a pretty liberal school & I bet all his friends are liberal minded. I could be wrong. Hope he does heal both from this & from his liberal mindset.

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  3. So in other words, assault someone and you’ll get audited by the IRS. That sounds like a good deterrent, because we all know there is nothing scarier than a gaggle of accountants with their high-capacity assault ledgers equipped with a detachable pencil sharpener/death-ray and a shoulder thingy that goes up. /end sarc/

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  4. Hardly.

    First and foremost is the sticker price. Oh, wait, scratch that. I meant sticker shock. Even when the price inevitably comes down, like all advanced technology does, it will only be those that today would invest in Schmidt Bender or Nightforce glass that would be buying it. That’s because only they will ultimately be able to afford it at any time within the next 20 years anyway.

    And besides, you cannot ever replace actually knowing how to dope your scope or read the wind. I hate to say it, but I agree with the Fudds on this one.

    For the foreseeable future anyway. YMMV.

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  5. I absolutely LOVE the line:

    “No one was threatened.”

    So either they don’t consider the police rolling in on this kid hard and fast (probably with a whole team of officers to handle the dangerous armed lunatic) to be “threatening” or they don’t consider the potential abrupt denial of his education a threat.

    Or perhaps they don’t consider him a real person. I’m not sure which of these concerns me more.

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  6. If any of the guys in our “cast ‘n blast” group showed up in camp, he would be laughed back into his truck.
    After we shot all his ammo.
    This would only be legal for yodel dogs here in Oregon. No electronics are allowed.
    Having been through sniper/observer school, I’m confident with a regular bang stick.
    Speaking of that, I’m headed for the hills.

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  7. He said it himself, it allows hunters to take a shot they normally would not take. That means less tracking, less hunting skills required, more animals harvested as a result, and more people calling themselves hunters. If you cant get close enough to make an ethical kill, then you shouldn’t be taking a shot on that animal, and work on your body and techniques to be able to stalk that animal.

    It doesn’t seem like a problem to hunting now because the system is out of the everymans price range. But what happens when the system becomes $1500? Then we have a real problem with over harvesting and readjusting the population.

    Nevertheless, the technology is here. We arent going to stop it, and it will only become cheaper until its available to every hunter who can afford a rifle. What can we do to counter act the negatives that this system brings to hunting? We educate our friends and children and teach them tried and true hunting morals, skills, and values that have been passed down since the days of bows and arrows. A hunter is a hunter regardless of what tool he uses, because his knowledge and ability to track and understand the animal is what defines him.

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  8. As long as the militias and the cartels are fighting in a limited area, this won’t affect the border states much. However, if this fighting spreads to several more Mexican states, the federal army will have to get more involved and it is not clear on which side they would fight. We have already seen that in some places the army fights the cartels more effectively and peace may begin to return. The bad option – and unfortunately the most likely – is that the army starts fighting the militias wholesale – and the larger that fighting gets – this could turn into an all out revolution.

    The immediate impact on the US would be enormous. The border would be inundated not with illegal immigrants, but by refugees fleeing the violence. It would be a huge humanitarian crisis as well as a diplomatic one. Either way, the path to freedom for the downtrodden citizens in Mexico would be painful and long. The people in Mexico have been cursed by corrupt government since their founding. My heart goes out to them, but I hope their local success results in the return of the rule of law, rather than perpetuating the rule of a corrupt few.

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  9. Like someone else posted, “it only takes seconds to call 911, it could take the rest of your life for help to arrive”. I have it on good authority that 100 percent of the mall goers around here are not disarmed, Randy

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  10. I imagine this will be abandoned by the media pretty quick because the bad guy used a shotgun instead of a scary black rifle. Unless the fucker used one of those pesky AR-15 shotguns…

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  11. This was my favorite line: “He also said that, on instructions from Governor Rafael Moreno Valle, elements will be sent to the municipality of San Gabriel Chilac, “to warn the local population, privilege is given to institutions by consensus and dialogue, so there can be no such organizations”.” Now if the people rise up and say that he government, the police and the army is in collusion with the drug cartels, there certainly seems to “be a consensus.” So what he is really saying is that the public can do nothing unless the government agrees to it–which of course it won’t; therefore there is no consensus, and the militia is illegal. Nice double speak.

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  12. Jerry can out Chuck Norris Chuck Norris. Leroy Brown, baddest man in the whole damn town, tips his hat and steps aside for Jerry. Superman offers to tug on his own cape for Jerry.

    How awesome would it be for Jerry to have a love child with KJW? Difi would probably try to ban such an event.

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  13. Good for the Mexican people, the essence of 2A. But they will be slaughtered by the government/cartel/ police. Just like they have always been. And if they rise up, they’ll be called commies, thus we’ll gladly provide our own soldiers and drones to slaughter them. Good times.

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