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The case of the man who [allegedly] shot Congresswoman Giffords and murdered six people is working its way through the federal court system. The main behind-the-scenes battleground: whether or not the feds can force Jared Lee Loughner to take psychotropic drugs to calm his ass down so he doesn’t go pyscho on fellow inmates. Well, that’s what the government claims. Loughner’s defense team reckons Uncle Sam is trying to make Loughner sane enough to destroy his insanity defense. TTAG’s been following the back-and-forth motion action at the Arizona District Court. And now the final judgement on Loughner’s happy pills has been revealed. Or not . . .

These exhibits, which relate to the Bureau of Prison’s finding that the defendant should receive anti-psychotic medication because he is a danger to others, contain sensitive medical information. The Court finds publication of these exhibits would compromise the defendant’s fair trial and privacy rights.

Looks like we’ll have to wait until trial to see if the prison system medicated Loughner’s defense away. Meanwhile, if the [alleged] spree killer’s such a danger to others, why don’t they just isolate him from fellow inmates?

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  1. If they were drugging him for the purposes of torture, interrogation, or just simply to make him into a vegetable then yeah this would be an issue. But if the drugs are to make his ass less crazy than who gives a fuck? Oh no, he won’t be able to claim insanity.

  2. “But if the drugs are to make his ass less crazy than who gives a fuck?”

    The drugs won’t make his ass less crazy because none of them are administered by suppository. But if they were, I’m sure that there’s someone in the joint who would be happy to play doctor with little Jared.

  3. So they make him less crazy — he wasn’t under any obligation to take them when he committed the act he’s imprisoned for. So he can still be considered crazy back then, no matter what drugs they’ve made him take while in the pokey.

    • Well, yes and no.

      There are really two separate insanity determinations: Before he can even be tried, it has to be determined that he is sane enough to understand what is happening and be able to mount an effective defense. Apparently the recent finding is that he was not and that’s why he hasn’t been bound over for trial.

      If and when he is determined to be sane enough to stand trial, he is then free to mount an insanity defense, which usually means that he has to show that he was so insane at the time of the shooting that he was incapable of knowing right from wrong, or that he was so insane that he was incapable of knowing what he was doing.

      So his current sanity effects the first determination, whereas his sanity at the time of the crime affects the latter.

  4. I guess they don’t have a sanitarium for the criminally insane. I honestly don’t know if we have the sort in the federal system. The thing is, he’s pretrial. Most states end up with his type in state prison, in protective custody or the like, with the other chuckle heads who drool a lot.

  5. After little thought and much conjecture, I have learned to think like Sir MikeB and Captain Magoo. Let’s contemplate Jared Lee Loughner, I have it on good word that Loughner was wearing sneakers the time of the attack. If not, it is not important because I know better and I’m making a rational argument. These very same sneakers were used to more readily sneak up on his victims. Hence the very word “sneak” sublimely planted in the name sneakers. These same sneakers are out there without any consideration of who may buy them, or THE PURCHASER’S TRUE INTENT. Sure, a raging psycho on the edge may say he’s going to exercise-but I know better. You sneaker wearing fanatics don’t fool me or my minions. We are watching you and calling for legislation. Why can’t you use hiking boots? They are just as flexible and less threatening to the public at large-is it because you, the sneaker fiends, are at the very least, fantasizing about sneaking up on some one? Sure, you say you FEEL safer going through a bad neighborhood, but why go there in the first place? You are just looking for an excuse to use your sneakers. And for you men who feel less manly w/o your sneakers, we know you are secretly wearing a size up. Take away your sneakers and you are every bit the barefoot man you were all along. I have it on good authority that even deranged madman Charles Whitman used sneakers to sneak up the Texas Tower that fateful day. And last, but certainly not least, sneakers were found next to Lee Harvey Oswald’s rifle in the book depository that day! Explain that one away, RF and others! I defy you to defy my logic. Sneaker Freaks!

    • Don’t think I don’t know you are only selling t shirts and hats as a smokescreen. I have it on good authority that TTAG SNEAKERS are being produced at this very moment-in Mexico, no less!

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