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Incendiary Image of the Day: Don’t Shoot Tracers in Indoor Ranges

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Honestly, right now tracer ammo is the only stuff I can find that’s actually in stock for 5.56. But while it may be available, there’s a reason indoor ranges don’t appreciate it when you shoot it in their facilities. This Dallas range, as a local paper reports, was engulfed in a four alarm fire thanks to someone’s careless ammo choice (BTW, one “alarm” response is two engines, two ladder trucks, an ambulance, and the fire chief in my AO, and it took four times that to kill these flames). Be safe, and double check your ammo, mkay?

Image and story via Reddit.

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  1. Efficient designs are used most often in war because they are effective. Last I checked everyone likes to have “the best” whether it is a TV or a car. As a shooter I want the best designs so I can spend more time training to become effective to defend myself or compete. Why should we have to fight both an assailant and the design of our gun in a life-threatening encounter?

    Is it paranoid to want protection? Not according to the government that requires car insurance. Do people that get life insurance expect to die or commit suicide? Do only arsonists and pyromaniacs buy fire extinguishers? You buy things to use them, that’s the anti-gun argument, right? So why does using something mean malicious intent? Yeah, I bought a gun to use it, at a range and hopefully never for defense, just like everyone hopes they won’t have to cash in a life insurance check three years after taking out the policy. But we still seek out that protection. A firearm isn’t complete protection because it is active, though, so I have to do something to ensure effective use to avoid or make the event advantageous (aka survive with my property), whereas insurance is passive and only occurs after the event is over. I guess the anti-gunners just prefer passive means, it would explain an affinity to police response (police do a wonderful job, but they can’t be everywhere, nor does their presence mean protection, and more often than not arrive to fill out a report after the event is over).

    The anti-gun side calls us paranoid, yet they think every single gun owner is a criminal and psychopath on a random timer and so no one should have guns. They don’t want to take responsibility for themselves so they think no one should have that power, the power to defend yourself. They ignore the plain fact that actual psychopaths always have long lead times, usually have clear motives that build over years, were denied help or ignored, most times give clear indicators of their intentions, will stop at nothing in their goal, and their goal outweighs their life. Their defense is “sometimes people snap” when in fact the incidents we see on the news are the sick life goals of psychopaths planned for years. That should really anger every gun owner; we are being labeled as criminals, psychopaths, and “uppity” slaves too evil and ignorant to give up our guns for the good of the children.

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  2. I was looking for a light 9mm gun for concealed carry. I had narrowed it down to a Steyr and the XD-9 Subcompact. Our local police officer and expert marksman (cowboy) really liked the Steyr because of the sights (Pyramid) and feel of the trigger after a box or two on the range. He has been a Glock guy since forever. After shooting both I chose the XD-9 SC and he chose to buy both the Steyr and the XD. The XD-9 just felt better in my hand and my own accuracy was better because of that feeling. Not sure why some posters don’t care for the 16 round clip. I love it and I’ve ordered two more from Dawson Precision. My control with the extra grip and weight just feels more secure and natural for me and I do like having the extra capacity. I go to the range at least once a week and my XD-9 has performed so flawlessly that I am now looking at the XD in 45 ACP. The XD has become my new favorite to replace the P95DC 9 mm that has served me perfectly for years. Now, what I am looking for is a laser for the XD-9 SC. Any suggestions?

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  3. The NRA may not have been directly created to protect freed slaves,
    BUT many of those freed slaves joined to ensure their continued
    independence. Many saw the 2nd Amendment as their insurance
    against slavery and would support (and be supported by) the NRA.
    During the civil rights movement the NRA aided the movement,
    many times working hand in hand with the NAACP to set up new
    NRA chapters. There are more than a few documented cases where
    the NRA sent firearms, trainers and even armed guards to protect
    African-Americans, particularly from the KKK. It’s sad how this
    has been largely whitewashed over and forgotten by far too many.

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  4. Praise and help our black friends they know history and evils of fascist gun grabs. Help and praise them for they dont drink the Obama cool aid!!!

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  5. After the war Rep. Sidney Clarke (R., Kansas) referred to an 1866 Alabama law:
    Nearly every white man in that State that could bear arms was in the rebel ranks. Nearly all of their able-bodied colored men who could reach our lines enlisted under the old flag(sic:the Union). Many of these brave defenders of the nation paid for the arms with which they went to battle…. The “reconstructed” State authorities of Mississippi were allowed to rob and disarm our veteran soldiers….

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  6. I’m not sure, two days after the posting, if this will ever be seen, but I thought I’d pipe up. This is the text of the email I sent to all the companies on the “neutral” list above; Perhaps if enough of us voice our objections, market capitalism will do the rest.

    To whom it may concern –

    I am a law abiding citizen, living in a state that is not. The state governments of New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, and Connecticut (among others) have made the unconstitutional, morally wrong decision that ordinary citizens may not own modern and effective personal defense weaponry while simultaneously allowing the “Police Loophole” to continue to exist. These states are effectively saying that there are two classes of citizens: those who serve the state, and those who are ruled by the state. This is a fundamental violation of everything that America stands for in principle and in law.

    The danger to the rule of law in this nation is stronger than ever, and I’m asking for your help in fighting it. The saying goes that we have four boxes with which to fight tyrrany: the Soap Box, the Ballot Box, the Jury Box, and the Ammo Box – to be used in that order. We are still able to stand on our soap boxes and speak our minds, so I’m asking for you and your company to join the 40+ firearms manufacturers and distributors – as well as the interstate community of law abiding gun owners – in voicing your firmest objection to the abandonment of the constitution in these states.

    In support of firearms rights for all law abiding Americans, I am asking you to boycott sales to all agencies in states that have passed bans preventing ordinary citizens from purchasing your products. Help us close the Police Loophole; if it’s too dangerous for us, it’s too dangerous for them.

    Sincerely,
    Reverend Brad Mitchell
    California

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  7. Albeit I was in another country (the UK), but it reminds me of the time I was going through airport security with a couple of gun mags in my carry-on and airport security pulled me aside and read me the riot act for the “Violent Literature” I was traveling with.

    It really is scaring when pictures of things can cause such a strong reaction out of people!

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  8. I’ve been saying something similar to this.

    People all the time like to parrot the news by repeating the phrase “These guns are designed to kill, nothing more” to which I reply, “Yes that is 100% true, and I practice my skills as often as I can, so if I ever need to stop someone, I’m prepared and capable.” – I’m not sure why the focus on guns being instruments of death is such a big deal. If you can’t throw a stone at 1200FPS+ at a paper target, I’m pretty sure you could kill with that stone. Swap paper out with bones, and the stone doesn’t change. It doesn’t magically become a cotton ball.

    People just don’t like to hear that stuff, but it’s a reality, and it’s the truth.

    I’ve noticed that everyone who is anti 2A has a tendency to say something like “they aren’t coming for your guns” sure, I get it, they aren’t kicking in doors, and raiding people with registered firearms, but they are creating legislation and laws that would make legal LAC’s criminals, instead of stiffening the punishment for crimes involving guns. DUI with a gun? Add 3 years. Domestic violence with a gun? Add 5 years. Forcible rape while armed, add 10 years. Those are more preventative than limiting my ability to carry magazines of relatively standard capacity, or my ability to reload. Those kinds of laws don’t stop anyone from doing anything other than enjoying a sport.

    We all know how stupid the laws are, and I’m preaching to the choir, but let’s be honest. Take for example California. Here we have a law that says you can’t use a rifle with 2 features that DOESN’T require a tool to remove the magazine. If someone where to decide that going on a rampage was on the agenda for the day, what are the chances they would hamstring themselves by A) Magazine capacity, or B) removable magazine buttons/tools? I’m willing to get that in every instance of ACTUAL GUN CRIME, i.e armed robbery, gang shootings, something violent in nature; bullet buttons and magazine capacities are not followed. To remove, and replace, the bullet button or “fixed magazine” release, is a 5min part swap for even the least familiar person.

    If someone is determined enough to do such a thing, and the law required that the magazine be attached semi-permanently, lets say using epoxy or welding, the slightest sense of determination would, and could, circumvent these idiotic requirements.

    Why should it have to take me 3 minutes to reload? How does that keep me or anyone around me safe? If my rifle was stolen, how long would it be before the bullet button was replaced with a standard magazine release button? I’m willing to bet on it being very soon after, assuming they don’t just sell it immediately on the black market., and if they did manage to find a buyer, I don’t see that bullet button staying on there for much longer. Being in possession of a stolen gun, regardless if the magazine can be removed, is going to be a bigger crime than the method of which the rifle is loaded. It’s pretty straight forward.

    As for the arguments about “stopping people from kill as many people” – it’s pure nonsense. Adam Lanza was denied when he attempted to make a legal, OTC/FTF purchase. Having been denied he sought out other means of arming him self, tragically. So, in this case, the system did work; And I continue to remind people that, YES THE SYSTEM DOES WORK, when I went to purchase my first firearm, I was delayed by the DOJ, they had a couple of questions to ask me. I was surprised they had any, but none the less, I had to answer questions and so do many people who are delayed. After speaking with them, the hold was released and that was that. I haven’t had a problem since. This just goes to show that even simple things can toss a flag on the field, and I have no problem with that. In fact, I’m glad they checked into me, it tells me they’re doing their job, and a decent one at that.

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  9. He put optics on it but otherwise it looks like a flattop. Does it have iron sights? Are they pop ups? I like the concept better than an AR but I want to know about the sights.

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  10. Albeit I was in another country (the UK), but it reminds me of the time I was going through airport security with a couple of gun mags in my carry-on and airport security pulled me aside and read me the riot act for the “Violent Literature” I was traveling with and confiscated all my mags.

    It really is scary when pictures of things can cause such a strong reaction out of people!

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  11. I owned a Krag back in 56, just before going into the army. It was also a sporterized version. It has the smoothest bolt action of any gun I have tried or owned. But 22 years later on leaving the Army I found the folks, needing the money had sold it. So when another sporterized Krag became available I bought it. As far as I am concerned it’s as fine a rifle as was made. I saw a program where the Krag was being matched to an 1903, the video showed how the 03 loaded so much quicker – but the doofus loading the Krag pulled single rounds from a belt rather then from a pouch by the hand full. On of the responders here also tells how to correctly load a Krag.

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  12. Just got my new Cabela’s ad. They’re pushing a pump gun, several bolt rifles and the semi auto pistols they’ve got in stock. They probably don’t have many semi-auto rifles. Seems to have been a run on ’em. Must be out of doubles as well.

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  13. I’ve tried reaching out to the black people I am closest to on a personal level. Of them, my next door neighbor is a retired marine and probably better armed than me, my former supervisor has told me of her an her husband and air force officer son waiting for the new indoor range to open, and one of my wife’s best friends is the daughter of a marine and owns a .38 special. A lot of black people, at least those in the south, are already armed, and thank God for it.

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  14. One thing that’s always confuses me is that so many civilian instructors, such as this one, teach target shooting techniques for defensive shooting–the idea of keeping the sights in focus and the target blurry being one. My military instrutors taught us to keep both eyes on the target and just shoot it. Very accurate for out to about fifty feet, at least. And pretty good out to a hundred or so. Maybe it’s only good for wooded areas, though, where there are lots of obstructions.

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    • That can of worms is the when to use your front sight and when to point shoot debate. Might as well ask about 9mm vs 45. In the end the answer is do what can guarantee hits the fastest for you at whatever range or conditions. My preference is to train to front sight squeeze period. In my experience, people don’t tend to keep groups inside a torso past about 5 – 10 yards without getting on the front sight, and that is on a square range starting from a clean stance and nobody moving or getting shot at.

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  15. There comes a time when you’re not useful even to yourself and, sadly, Amitai Etzioni has reached it.

    My mom is 2 years younger than this dude, and she can’t balance a check book or figure out what telemarketers on the phone want. The world has moved on. Nuff said!

    Charlie

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  16. I’ve always liked the look of the bullpup design, particularly for a HD rifle. But this gun is so full of evil features fail that I don’t think I’ll see one out here in California in the forseeable future. Or my lifetime, for that matter. Major bummer.

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