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This is What Happens to a Disarmed Populace: Cartel Kidnapping Edition

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Mexican mass murder 2010 (courtesy ublicintelligence.net)

“Mexican federal and state police have rescued 73 kidnapped migrants being held in a house on the border with Texas,” the AP reports. Let’s think about that. How do you hold 73 people hostage? With guns. How do you rescue 73 people being held by people with guns? With guns. How do you prevent someone from kidnapping 73 people? With guns. As in a person with a gun isn’t as easy to kidnap (not to mention rape and torture) as someone who’s been disarmed by their own governments. “The agency says some of Central American migrants had been held for more than three months after being kidnapped at the Reynosa bus station. Abductions of migrants are common in northeastern Mexico, an area controlled by the Zetas and the Gulf drug cartels. In 2010, the Zetas were blamed for the mass slaying of 72 migrants in the north [relatively tame image above].” Oh, and the official investigating that crime was also kidnapped and murdered.

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. California, how much of this are you going to stand for? I vacillate between sympathy for you and wondering if you are actually in favor of subjecting yourselves and your children to such moronic policies. The rest of the country can not intervene in your state politics, and rightly so. The ball is in your court, citizens. NOTHING will improve until you DO SOMETHING. If I am missing your local efforts please forgive my criticism, but Colorado, though presently still burdened with the instigating legislation, did something. What you are allowing to occur will eventually infect other states so, PLEASE, make your voices be heard. Best of luck.

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  2. I would not say anything to a police officer about how I “fully intend to cooperate” because I do not. I would say something like, “I understand you are just doing your job officer, but I cannot answer any questions at this time.”

    If they press on with something like, “Why not? Do you have something to hide?” or something like that, I’d say, “Officer, I am exercising my Fifth Amendment-protect right against having to act as a witness against myself.”

    I would not flee the scene if I was not sure if that was legal or not, what I would do is call the police, but not say on the phone that I shot anyone. I’d instead say that someone was shot and needs help. I would avoid saying that I did the shooting or even that I was attacked by that person, out of fear that this somehow could be used against me.

    I figure I’ll let the police find out the whole story through my lawyer about how I was attacked and had to shoot the person, then it can be defended as a DGU. But by calling the police, you can’t be accused of anything for fleeing the scene, and also the person shot gets help.

    If the police arrest me, they at maximum can hold you for at most a few days before you have to be brought before a judge and have the charges being brought against you read to you. It is the prosecutor that decides whether or not to formally bring charges against you, and one of the things they go by are what things did you tell to the police.

    So while being arrested might make your life miserable for a few days, long-term it could save you a lot of headache and keep you out of prison.

    One thing I do wonder though is should you at least tell the police the gun lying at the scene is yours, or just let them figure this out for themselves? If the gun is registered legally to you, they ought to be able to figure this out themselves right? It seems like an obvious question, but I’d be too afraid that just by answering that one little question, I’d be waiving my 5th amendment. So I’d still be quiet and risk a night or two in jail just to be safe.

    To Hannibal the cop:

    “Clamming up” is your right. If the cop gives a bad reaction, that’s the cop’s fault, not the person’s. The cop ought to know better that someone exercising their right does not imply guilt. And yes, sometimes answering questions at the scene can clear things up, but it’s a huge roll of the dice as pointed out by a poster. Not all cops are good. Furthermore, a person can accidentally admit to another crime they inadvertently committed (for many for example, “I fired a warning shot…”).

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  3. Want to face violent death every day? Cross the street. The Running of the Bulls has nothing on that. Yet they do it every day without thinking.
    [LOUD Bronx Cheer]

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  4. Time to NUKE the cartels,Precision bombing ought to do the trick,and since we probably have some left over, last years ordinance, Somalia is not that far away,is it?

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  5. If you want to see proof of cognitive dissonance in action, try this thought experiment the next time you get into a verbal debate (online debates don’t work, read the comments here some time 🙂 ) with a gun grabber:

    Simply say: “If all guns are good for is murdering people, then why do police need them?”

    Sit back, and watch the psychological magic….

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  6. OK, let’s be real for a minute, if some politicians were shot would anyone be heart broken about it…?

    Just kidding… No, but seriously…

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  7. According to other sites, there was a car chase before the shooting, so it may be coincidence that the chase ended in front of the capital building and then shots were fired.

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  8. Where are all the shotguns? When you get in trouble just fire a couple rounds in the air and the problem will go away.

    Why am I seeing all these assault weapons with their 30 round magazine clips? I thought they were illegal in the gun free paradise of D.C.

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  9. To elaborate dwb’s point above:
    In the Olden days, a piece of paper/card was what you carried to show authorities you were OK for what ever activity for which the card was issued. Yes there was a gap between expiration or revocation where the card would appear to be valid. If Central got a call from a cop about a permit, a clerk would have to go to the dungeon and pull the paper file. Hardly workable for instant street validation. Now, your cards (FOID) only real purpose is to carry a number. That card/permit number is called in every time it is shown for official purpose. It will be validated by the central computer data base just like your DL. Nobody comes to collect your DL after it expires. If they can’t flag that FOID in the data base so that it shows up as no longer valid during a gun purchase or other interaction with police, there is something wrong with their system.
    In this modern era, with a computer in every squad and a call in from ever FFL transaction, the card itself is useless. If they are telling people they need to go collect the FOID cards, it is cover for them to come into your home and screw with both the 2A and 4A.

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  10. teams.The third quarter was uneventful, just six points were scored, a field goal by both teams. Not only was I not prepared to spend the night in a riot scene but a to run to the store or would like to use a non-toxic alternative? Well, you have and in 1993There are different ways that can help you in concealing your identity. Derma Rollers

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