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  1. Saw someone do this to their friend’s .44 at the range. Not sure they were friends afterwards. He sure did look cool, though.

      • Concerned about movie ratings? Or has someone else been using my name? It’s been around a while, but I don’t comment much.

        • there was an eleven number smaller commenter who was shunned for mindless obedience.
          the distinction between parental guidance suggested for under 13yrs and restricted is fairly well blurred.

        • I certainly recognize your username, and have seen it/you during my years on TTAG of course. My comment was a tongue-in-cheek joke using wordplay.

          But I find it curious that you didn’t “get” it, seeing that the troll caused so much ruckus here for so long, and under a few variants of names similar to yours. Maybe you don’t visit this site much?

        • Na, visit multiple times daily, I just tend to skip over the comments a lot of the time to avoid raising my blood pressure. I was just genuinely curious to see if someone had used my name. Must have missed the troll With the similar tag. Funnily enough, though,
          my previous response to you was held for moderation, so apparently your phaser worked! I did get a laugh out of that.

  2. I love The Truth About Guns emails, but the gun meme of the day is worthless. I wish I could unsubscribe from that BS email without harming my communications from the great Dan Zimmerman and all his cohorts.

  3. If you spin the cylinder and close the crane with a snap of the wrist on one of my revolvers you will be (un) politely asked to go away and never allowed to touch one of my firearms again. Sooo many Hollyweird types have done that that the non-firearm public thinks that it is ok and the correct thing to do…I blame Jack Lord as the original Steve McGarrett and his ever present snubby (his 50 yard driver’s side tire-flattening shots on a vehicle moving away from him was too much BS even when I was younger and more gullible).

    • Here’s one of my hollywood pet peeves. The good guy is about to bust the door down knowing there’s a bad guy in there. He stops for a moment to check and make sure he’s got one in the chamber.

      Its my weapon. On my person. I know what condition its in. I do not need to fiddle f^ck around with it right before go time.

      • Yeah, but how else is the director gonna show: 1. The “good guy” is really serious about dealing with said bad guy. 2. The “good guy” is fully stoked up with strong badassery. Hollywood directors and producers barely know the bullet comes out of the thing that goes up.

        • Saw this one shortly ago… bad guy pulls the trigger – “click”, pulls it again-“click”, pulls it a third time -“click”… on a Glock. Good guy agent( gal, actually) says ” Lucky for me I pulled the firing pin out when you left the room.” Now THAT is one talented agent.

    • May favs are when the cops cock their Glocks. Or the one Criminal Minds episode where Rossi (who is played by a guy who knows something about guns) walks into a room pointing his 1911 at the bad guy…and then for “emphasis” cocks it. I’m like WHAAAT?!

        • I’ve noticed that in multiple movies. When they raise and point the pistol, it makes that sound.

        • I have noticed that with a plastic holster there is often a click-like sound when someone draws quickly. But your point still stands.

      • Mrs. Haz hates it when a movie or show has incorrect cocking/rackng sounds (like a cop pulling back the “hammer” on a Glock with each entry into a new room). I yell at the TV, and she rolls her eyes at me.

      • I don’t do Tell-A-Vision, at all, but that scenario is at least feasible: other than hammer back and both safeties disengaged, there is no condition where the 1911 is ‘unsafe’ to carry. He could indeed have had one in the pipe, safety off, hammer down, gun holstered and then drawn the gun, cocked the hammer and looked all crosseyed at the guy. Jus sayin…

        • Gee, look, my Free Speech is being Randomly Moderated, again, still, by the Authority Figures on a blog that owes its very existence to extolling the principles of Freedom and Liberty. How quaint. And how very Progressive of them.

        • If you were a cop going into a possible shooting scenario, pointing at a BG, would you have your gun unready to fire?

      • I love that move. It’s like yeah…. Emphasis to the fact that I have no idea what I’m doing! Pretty sure there’s a Samuel Jackson movie where he does that too.

      • Mark N, of course not, I only meant to say that it was technically feasible, as well as being stoopid. Which is why I can’t watch tv anymore.

    • “…I blame Jack Lord as the original Steve McGarrett…”

      I watched just for the intro…..

      • Don Wilson just died in January, their cover of the theme is the best, even though Mort Stevens orchestra from the TV series wasn’t bad to begin with.

      • Yeah, but are either of you two among the hundred or so fans that saw the “Road to Revenge” remake/ sequel of it a couple of years back? Saw it in a hotel room on God knows what cable channel.

        • You would be by your fifteenth twelve hour day on an out of state install project… can’t even remember why I retired out of engineering, all that glamour!

    • But the expression on the face of the actor (John Marley) is if . . . he just woke up to find a horse’s head in his bed.
      😉

  4. Serious question: should you not snap the cylinder shut with a flick of the wrist? I’m not generally a revolver guy (though I have several and my first handgun ever was a 4” .357 that I became quite good with), but I’ve done that hundreds, maybe thousands, of times with my ancient Ruger solely because it’s convenient. I can’t imagine closing the cylinder with a flick of the wrist puts much more pressure on it than slamming it shut with the off hand….

      • That’s valid. I don’t own any fine revolvers but if I did id probably be a bit more inclined to baby them a touch

    • Why would you “slam it shut” in any case? Do you slam a bolt or the base of a magazine home or push them firmly? And even then, a bolt or a magazine isn’t a weighty revolving block of steel properly timed in coordination with other, more littler bits and filled with propellant and projectiles you are about to touch off from within the grasp of your hand, a mere two feet in front of yer face. I’m with Montana up top, except at this point with people I might grab the revolver back out of their ignorant hands and crack them over the noggin with it. And guess what, 99% of people will still vote liberal next time. Evolution is indeed a thing and it ain’t all in a good direction.

      • Fair points re the precise timing of a revolver but actually yes, I do slam magazines and bolts as well. Why wouldn’t I? I regard my firearms first and foremost as weapons, and why would I want a weapon I have to baby and be gentle with? That’s not to say that I go out of my way to abuse my guns but I’d be a little leery of trusting my life with, or even firing, something that’s supposed to contain tens of thousands of lbs of pressure in my hand but can’t deal with a bit of rough handling.

        • Red, yes, I guess one would have to define “slam” but needlessly and relatively violently forcing a revolving cylinder on a hinge into aforementioned fixtures and other moving apparatus certainly isn’t the place to be “slamming things shut”. Again, regardless of experience, technical or otherwise, common sense and a modicum of mechanical aptitude would urge a lack of undue stress being applied in any similar situation. Tldr: spinning a cylinder and slamming it home is just teenager level stoopid. Prove me wrong.

      • Does flicking your wrist with a revolver really slam it or was the quote in the meme a bit hyperbolic?

        Personally, I don’t get it. Here I was told that revolvers are rock-solid, dead-nuts, never-fail reliable (in direct contrast to my personal experience). And so, I assume that argument to be in good faith and my personal experience to be the outlier.

        Yet apparently people get bent out of shape if you close the cylinder on a revolver in a way they don’t like… because? Is it a bad-ass unstoppable tool like wheel gunners like to claim and gramps here is just touchy?

        My reaction to that is “Wheel gun people are strange”.

        • “Wheel gun people are strange”

          Yes…and your point is / was?

          As we discuss on the forum over and over…firearms are tools…and tools are subject to misuse, either intentionally or through ignorance. I watched a brother officer on the qualification range try flipping the cylinder closed on his issue Colt Trooper III and successfully throw 5 of 6 rounds out of the cylinder from the force he used. I try to learn from other peoples mistakes (Heaven knows that I can make enough of my own when left unsupervised) seemed like a bad idea…and, yes, revolvers are sturdy however, they also have lots of small, carefully fitted interconnecting parts and springs that could get out of alignment by subjecting them to what I chose to call excessive, unwarranted force. A firm closure is more secure and more certain.

          As I said in my original comment…that guy had one try and he muffed it. I am old and I don’t have to share my toys with dipsticks iffin I don’t want to.

        • Yes…and your point is / was?

          That there are a series of non sequiturs that surround the whole revolver argument, seemingly going unnoticed by most of the people (on both sides) who engage in this argument. Which is an oddity.

        • It’s okay to do it on your own gun, but to do it on someone else’s gun is rude and just showing off.

        • strick, read you long enough to have seen you get literal before.
          i’d say all of the timing intracacies on revolvers can be delicate, the acts of “abuse” described above could ding and mar interfaces that might affect things.
          but once locked up, the stout ones withstand some stuff.
          but you understand this dichotomy. enjoy.

      • @R/S

        Liberals are living proof that evolution has dead-ends…branches on the Tree of Life that bear no viable fruit and just beg for pruning.

        • Ha! Yes Sir, couldn’t agree more. It is indeed a mental disorder of a sort. We touched on the rcmp the other day and I mentioned their decline only out of much personal experience (family, friends, etc) of multiple decades. The same evolutionary selection ‘forces’ throughout modern society that gift us all with the Progressive Liberal, along with authoritative power, grift, cronyism and criminal opportunity have acted their magic on the rcmp as well. As you say, not so long ago one could very much respect them and their actions. Sad times. Just wanted you to know I didn’t say those words lightly or off the cuff.

        • @R/S

          No offense taken. I took your words as a statement of personal experience. It is sad that so many once-premier law enforcement agencies are now shallow shills for political Agendas and “social engineering / change”. During my prime I traveled as a recruiter for my department (collateral duty). It was great to talk to prospective applicants and to have a small voice in choosing officers with whom I would work with or supervise…nowadays I don’t think that I could do the recruiting shtick as the duties and morale within the agency have fallen to rock bottom…the job is not “fun” or productive anymore (when you are not allowed to jail legitimate bad guys / gals then the system is broken).

    • I think it may have something to do with how heavy the cylinder is. I don’t do it but the only revolver I own is a 22lr and I’m not even sure the cylinder is heavy enough to overcome the lock by momentum only. I do spin it though and that’s fun in a weird way.

  5. Auto loader mags, pistol and rifle, get a firm slap.
    Bolt actions get worked pretty vigorously.
    Pump actions get slammed quite hard.
    Beater revolvers get the McGarrett treatment.
    Nice revolvers are treated like grandma.
    I could of been more graphic but thought I’d be polite. Use your own imagination.

      • Dang it ! Your right! I missed that entirely.
        Especially because there was a discussion about. 45-70 at work yesterday which ended up on Henry lever guns.

        • bit of a .444 fan but admit there’s greater bullet choice for the gov’t.
          still, with a .44mag soft spot it’s nice that .444 can use the same diameters.

        • Hey t.p.j. if you load hardcast for that 444, do you have a line on heavy . 432 sized boolits?… Beartooth appears to have gone by the wayside.

  6. “That Python was beautiful; it was young; it was innocent. It was the greatest piece of wheel gun I’ve ever had, and I’ve had ’em all over the world!”

  7. The reason you don’t flip the cylinder shut with a flick of the wrist is ’cause it has a higher potential to cause rounds to dislodge from the cylinder if the gun is pointed forward. This causes the round, if dislodged, to either fly out of the cylinder, or stick part way out and slam against the gun frame and possibly damage the round, or scratch the finish when the dislodged round hits the frame, or delay use of the gun in a split second need use cause you will need to take time to correct the issue by seating the round back in the cylinder.

    A guided closure of the cylinder allows for this condition to be detected more easily before the round is damaged, lost, or finish scratched.

    • Further, if the cylinder is spinning when u flip it shut the cylinder locking bolt can be damaged.

      • And further, if the cylinder is spinning when you flick it shut its also possible the cylinder doesn’t index which means the cylinder is not securely closed and the gun is not able to fire.

        • Further, furthermore, I’d be willing to wager that someone who slams shut a wheelgun has a messy and disorganized tool chest, and all of his gardening tools look like they have done double duty as prybars and hammers. You can take the caveman out of the cave, …..

        • PB, I’ll see your bet and raise you : a clapped out lifted ford f150 with stick on mud decals on the sides and a come take it window sticker on the broken back window parked in the unmowed front yard.

        • all tools are hammers.
          except screwdrivers, which are pry bars and chisels.

        • … ANY tool can be a hammer, and a hammer can be EVERY tool. Still doesn’t mean you can’t use an actual hammer.

  8. don’t beat on your delicates.
    i’m hard pressed to be convinced that wrist flipping the cylinder home with moderate torque will damage anything. i agree that it shouldn’t be spinning at that moment. spin for fun, flip closed when stopped. it’s a very deliberate motion.
    how to resist the half cock spin on a single action, knowing that that’s where those lines come from connecting the index indentations?

  9. Dunno ’bout youse guys, but I always flick the cylinder of my wheelgun closed.

    Just after I screw on the silencer.

  10. I have a tendency to be a little more careful in how I treat my tools. Sure, use them, and use them hard. But no reason to abuse the equipment. I work my horses but don’t beat them. I work my truck, but don’t jump boulders and stumps with it. I have yet to wear out a gun by shooting them, but have replaced many parts broken from misuse. How do you think I managed to amass the collection I have on a sergeant’s and then a cooks pay? By buying them from people who have misused and broken easily replaced small parts through misuse/abuse.

        • …through four feet of snow and howling winds…June was always a rough month for weather.

        • Ha! Absolutely. And now every month seems to get tougher n tougher lately. Still looking at patches of snow in my yard but in a month I’ll prob be evacuated in front of a forest fire. Again. Still. May we live in interesting times my ass… 🙄😉.

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