“I had to go to the Capitol yesterday because they decided what we really need is more guns and more access to guns by more people in more places,” said Warnock, the senior pastor at Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta. “So, somebody decided that they had the bright idea to pass a piece of legislation that would allow guns and concealed weapons to be carried in churches.”
“Have you ever been to a church meeting? That’s the last place—” he said, before being interrupted by laughter from the audience.
He added, “Whoever thought of that had never been to a church meeting.”
— Brittany Bernstein in Raphael Warnock Mocks Georgia Gun Law in Newly Unearthed Sermon
They don’t, until they do
Exactly where does the preacher man approve guns to be? If the nitwit has issues with having firearms on hand to keep the devil out of churches then logic says the preacher man also has issues with guns in your home, car, on your person, etc.
Such pompous Gun Control ratbassturds have no problem sticking their behinds in the air and going around pimping Gun Control like it’s Christmas Candy. The fact is Gun Control is rooted in racism and genocide and it is clearly a racist and nazi based agenda. I’ll tell an ignorant Gun Control pimping preacher who holds the door open for the wolf to consume his flock to go eat poo as fast as I’ll tell the forum’s resident democRat Party lint licker enuf to eat poo. I do not discriminate, jackasses come in all shapes, sizes and colors.
A pastor running for Senate? Where are all the leftards screeching “SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!”?
They would only be screaming if he was truly a follower of Jesus Christ, The left knows their own they know that he has sold his soul to black liberation theology which is Marxism‘s answer to Christianity.
Since we already know that bad guys ignore rules and that they do not obey laws, maybe we should consider doing something like the following:
Make and post a sign with the new rule that reads: “Guns are Prohibited in this Church – All violators will immediately be struck down dead by God”. And then also make sure to have God himself co-sign it to indicate that this new rule will be strictly enforced… and then… maybe then, I will think about complying. Because let’s face it, if God can not be trusted to be there to stop the bad guy, then one of us armed citizens needs to be there and to be ready to step in.
People in Texas fully understand and thank God for an armed citizen who saved a lot of lives one Sunday. Maybe he’s upset because the guy who came in to do the killing was black and he got killed, who knows.
And you have no place in our government, clown!!!
Moore v. Madigan, specifically Shepard v. Madigan.
I know it is 7th circuit, but if you want to defend a ban on guns in churches, you should really at least know about the case
We should spread rumors that mockumentary filmmaker Michael Moore is the lead plaintiff.
Maybe I’ll send him a Christmas card with a thank you note in it.
Did this idiot miss the abruptly ended church shooting in White Settlement TX? Seems like guns in churches worked out pretty good for them. Whereas in Sutherland Springs they did not have guns in the church and 26 people were killed.
Put this guy back on the short bus where he can lick the windows all he wants.
Windex flavored lollipops for politicians might sell well.
Reference to The Jerk?
I came post the exact same sentiment.
Then again, who needs facts when you have feelings and fantasy?
The Crimson Pirate, you stole my thunder…I guess this clown forgot what happened to us down here in Texas. Evil does not shy away from the door of a church, that’s been a proven fact.
If the left is good at anything, it’s projecting. Just because you don’t trust yourself to carry a firearm doesn’t mean that you get to deny the rest of us that right.
I bet the congregation at the West Freeway Church of Christ is thankful their leadership didn’t feel the same way, also.
I just looked at the original ad from the NRA. They are kind of thing is going to backfire. A sermon from years before the shooting depicted. And its the congregation (not Warnock) laughing. Who knows what the dynamics are at the church, it may not be the best idea for people to be armed.
Charlotte, SC……Greenville, IL…..White Settlement (Fort Worth), TX…..and the list goes on and on
The RIGHT, the MANDATE to keep and bear arms comes directly from SCRIPTURE, the very same SCRIPTURE this nation is founded upon. Luke 22:36, Psalm 82:4, Nehemiah 4:17, Luke 11:21 ALL speak to being armed. And, not one of the Scriptures has Jesus saying, ” But, don’t bring it to the synagogue.” Guess Warnock’s Bible has a few scriptures missing……or he’s a Liberal pick’n’choose preacher that only reads the scriptures that meet his needs.
This guy’s a fool, but who knows what’s going to happen in Georgia with all of the craziness lately.
I do, the left will cheat, the left will win, the right will do nothing.
I carry a firearm everywhere I go, including church, with the blessings of the pastor. Several members do regularly. I sit at back of church with me back to wall and have full view of all entrances and exits. I pray never to have to draw my firearm anywhere, but if I have to, I will. Some people go unprepared, either by not being situational aware, or not being prepared to deal with a threat. Politicians and a$$holes like Raphael Warnock would prefer people be defenseless.
Ya know, in the middle ages, the Vikings would attack on Sunday morning because they knew that the citizenry would be in the church and their weapons would be neatly stacked outside.
When the guns in church began…our pastor got up and was discussing the Church meeting where the leaders were discussing conceal carry in church, the pastor replied to his comment by saying, “I told them…I know there are members who conceal carry, and I hope if something happened they would be willing to at least protect their pastor.”
Interesting. I didn’t know that about the vikings. I once read that the pilgrims required all the men to take guns to church so that they wouldn’t be stuck in a building unarmed if hostile Indians attacked. My wife and I both carry at church and a lot of the other members do as well. It’s a non issue for us.
“Georgia Senate Candidate Raphael Warnock: Guns Have No Place in Churches”
Well, okay, he’s sort of right. Guns have no business sitting in the pews.
Guns belong in holsters. Preferably on church people’s strong side, using a sturdy belt to keep it all where it needs to be if ever needed.
Guns laying about the pews is just plain lazy.
And the son of satan has no business preaching the socialist/Marxist “gospel”! He makes rev Al Sharpton look like a saint…
Killers walk among us
Even in churches
Gun free zones are easy pickens for those looking for phish in a barrel. No one would want to bring guns into churches if those places were guaranteed safe. Too many lives lost in churches at the hands of those that do not care. Too many lives saved from those very same monsters by those that do.
Don’t remember God saying we couldn’t.
Stick to the scripture, don’t wing it as you go.
Many leaders in every religion seek every opportunity to use the religion as a means to acquire power and control over others. Probably the only thing Warnock is interested in, now he wants to go to the Senate to gain even more power. One sick puppy.
“Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.“
It was only a matter of time until some clever idiot brought this one up. That scripture isn’t talking about someone trying to kill you. It’s talking about law and revenge.
Let me ask you this: Do you really think Jesus Christ would tell his followers not to resist evil itself? And if so, are you willing to live by your own interpretation and let outright evil do whatever it wants to you?
(Rhetorical question; we already know the answer. You’re only trying to poke your Christian adversaries in the eye and hold them to a spurious standard.)
I seem to recall when some guns in a church saved the parishioners from a slaughter, so perhaps warnock needs to be reminded of that…
Warnock is okay with dead parishioners since dead innocents in a church will help push his guns are bad agenda, he figures it is even better is some of them are children. Fulton county (Atlanta) and a few others will vote for this clown anyway, but in the end he like Jon Ossoff are just the latest couple of losers the the Democrats have put up here in Georgia.
If you live here in Georgia and you haven’t voted recently, verify your status. Google “Georgia voter eligibility status ” since links don’t work here anymore
Get out and vote Tuesday January 5th! Your gun rights absolutely depend on it!
Rusty, I know what you are intending to say. However, our gun rights do NOT depend on the January 5 vote. Our gun rights are inalienable, given from our Creator……merely memorialized in the Second Amendment as a warning to the government to “….not infringe.” Our gun rights depend upon what we, as our Founding Fathers did, are willing to put on the line to preserve. If we play and abide by the enemies’ rules, we will lose by the enemies’ rules. We need to win by our rules. As General Patton observed, “One does not win a war by dying for his country. He wins by making the other poor bastard die for his country.” One might surmise that it is way past time for some other poor bastards to hydrate the Tree of Liberty. Our Founding Fathers would already have been finished shooting a second time. America has been over run. The enemy is not “in the wire.” Today, and for several decades, the enemy sits in the Command Post.
I think what @Rusty was trying to say is that it’s the only way to preserve the right without conflict. No one should want or advocate for conflict.
Georgia is a huge disappointment.
The real threat is just 48 days away. Only this time screaming at the Interweb won’t be enough to stop the attack on the 2nd Amendment. Choices will have to be made. Courage or Surrender. Choose Wisely
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hes obviously never read Nehemiah 4
church is the LAST place i dont carry
Because nobody ever needed to defend themselves in church.
No, wait a minute…
I guess Rev Warlock is happy that happened, and wants it to happen again?
I bet his Protectors have guns!
This clown needs to do his preaching in the hood where his people are causing most of the bloodshed amongst themselves.
“Reverend” Warlock is either stupid or wants unarmed victims. I;m going with C – Both.
Too many times we Christians and Jews have been targeted for slaughter by insane Leftists and Mohammedan savages who hate us and want to kill us for our beliefs.
“the one who has no sword must sell his cloak and buy one” – Luke 22:36, spoken by Jesus Christ Himself.
“…and each of the builders [of the city wall] wore his sword at his side as he worked…
– Nehemiah 4:18
You’d think that being a true believer in your Lord you would have no need to bring sosomething into a building to defend yourself.
Yay tho I walk through the valley of death.
So which is it? A true believer in the power of the Lord, or when shtf your gods on standby.
BTW I was in a car wreck, DOA at the hospital. Floating above the bed I could see all my loved ones mourning for my loss. As my spiritual body rose upwards with rows of figures dressed in white waving their hands to come forward, towards the light, I had a feeling of indescribable calm and contentment and a union with many. Something no drug or anything on earth can compare . I was torn between that and the loved ones mourning. I remember saying “I can’t leave them now” and here I am today.
Death is not the end, it’s the beginning.
Mourn not for those whom go before us, but rejoice.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Important thing about religion, CONTEXT is key.
With the Lord on your side working with you and your weapon, you can walk safely.
Lord helps those who help themselves, not the Lord helps people who rely solely on his will for things to get done.
Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil… ‘cause I’m the meanest sonofabitch in the valley.
To the commenter known as “.”,
Nowhere does the Bible advocate, as a general principle, that you should be totally passive and God will do everything.
Even when the Jews were totally dependent on God while wandering in the desert (after fleeing Egypt), God did not make bread appear in their stomachs. In fact God did not even drop bread in their laps. Rather, God dropped manna from the skies each night and the Jews had to collect it, make dough, and cook it every day.
And in a more general sense, God does not drop food in our laps. Rather, he expects us to work with our hands to produce crops, tools, etc. Reference 2 Thessalonians 3:10 where the Apostle Paul admonishes us, “If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.”
Of course we have the Great Commission in Matthew 28:19 where Jesus tells us to, “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.” Note that Jesus is ordering his disciples to actively work to spread the Gospel and reach the world. That would not be necessary if God expected his disciples to be passive so that God could take care of everything.
Clearly, God expects us to actively participate in life. Thus, the correct Biblical principle is:
God expects us to actively work toward achieving righteous goals and then trust God to bless our work to bear fruit.
What you were suggesting is a perversion of that principle: you advocated the “trusting in God for fruit” part while omitting the “we have to work” part.
I think he’s perfectly fine with the psychos and criminals having guns. He doesn’t associate with them, but he might associate with us—so it’s us he aims to control.
This was meant for a different comment. Oh, well…
For instance, I’d like to know:
– How does your near-death in a car crash equate to being murdered in a holy place?
– If death is such peace, and possibly preferable to life, why did you want to come back? And if such is the case, why were we put here by God at all?
– Does human life have inherent (God-given) value?
– Do we not have a sacred obligation to live for those who depend on us? (Your experience seems to show that you think so.)
If our mortal existence has God-given value, shouldn’t churchgoers be able to defend themselves against people who would unlawfully take the God-given gift of life? Wouldn’t God *expect* us to defend his precious gift?
Ideally, Warnock is correct. However, when a mentally ill person, bent on mass murder, brings a firearm into a church, how does he propose to force that person to leave his weapon outside or remain outside himself? White Settlement, with armed church security, was mostly a success while Sutherland Springs, with no security, was a complete failure.
The problem with Warnock is that he and his ilk cannot accept that, sometimes, raw, naked force is the only way to protect prospective victims. I’m sure, if you told him, that you would counterattack the mass murderer, even though your were unarmed, he wouldn’t like that either.
Tell that to Jack.
I really wish I could live in a world where we did not need guns, but that is just fantasy. As long as there are unstable, evil people left here with us(which will be forever), we need self protection.
“The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon you.” Jules Winnfield
Love Pulp Fiction.
He that has no sword, shall sell his cloak and buy one.
I normally carry a Glock 19. When I go to church I carry a Glock 43. I call it ‘My Church Gun’. And only a few people know I have it there. This guy is an idiot and you couldn’t pay me enough to go to his church.
My elder brother was the pastor of a church until he became disabled. We live about 300 miles apart but I would visit him about four times a year, generally taking in a Sunday morning service before I headed back home. Before I did that I reminded him I was concealed carrier and he said, “I expect you to bring at least two things to church with you, one I will pray you don’t need to use and the other I will pray you use more often.”
I agree, guns don’t belong in church. A church should be considered Holy Ground. But until the dirt bags in this world understand and respect that, some of us should be prepared and ready.
Says the same guy that is okay with ripping babies limb by limb from the mother’s womb.
I agree that guns shouldn’t be needed in a church, but the reality of our societal decay negates that philosophy. In a perfect world, no one would commit crimes. As long as crimes are being committed, guns will be needed. The Reverend is a fool to think otherwise, and the Bible also contradicts his beliefs.
St. James Church Massacre (South Africa): https://youtu.be/YGif9upDZSo
The attack (done with Full Autos) was thwarted by a lone Parishioner with a revolver.
There’s something deliciously ironic about how Progressives love to talk about “separation of Church and state” right up until it comes down to the state telling you what you may or may not do in Church then separation isn’t such a big thing with them.
God’s house, God’s rules IMHO. Don’t like it? Don’t go.
Georgia Senate Candidate Raphael Warnock: Guns Have No Place in Churches
Perhaps true, but have you tried telling that to the dirt bags who shoot up the innocent, the unarmed, the defenseless?
Warnock: Guns Have No Place in Churches
Ralph: M0r0n Warnock Has No Place in Government.
The Bible says otherwise! Keep money out of churches! Sell your cloak and get a sword(aka)gun nowadays! 🖕🐀💩👜dems, they’ll keep you safe. Gun free zones have killed more people than it protected!
As a minister of 45+ years, I’m pretty sure I’ve been in church more than Warnock, and I’m always carrying. In my thousands of times in church, I’ve never had to use my weapon, praise God, and pray I will never need to. But I also pray that God will bless my practice, and help me be prepared and able to hit my target. David acknowledged that God taught his “hands to war” and his “fingers to fight” (Psalms 144:1).
The biggest problem with Warnock and others, is that they invent their own morals, and think their idea of love, mercy, self-defense and justice are better than God’s. Gun control is not Scriptural.
I do think that more churches should teach Biblical principles as they relate to self-defense, guns and their safe and responsible usage. Many churches are working with Police, Homeland Security, etc., to develop active shooter plans and other security scenarios.
Obviously this pastor has not heard of the church deacons for defense and justice. Black men of a black church who organize themselves into a militia. To defend their Community against the klan Night Rider’s.
Hollywood movies have distorted American history since Hollywood movies were made. Everybody brought their guns to church historically. At least one family member was always armed while in the church or traveling to and from Church.
I have to wonder about a pastor who says that guns should not be in churches. Because that makes him suspect to me on his lack of knowledge. About weaponry and its ownership among the common people of the Bible.
Wonder of Warnock is a closet atheist?
The Reverend Jim Jones, who lead the Peoples Temple, in California. He was an atheist. He was never a Believer. But he did wear religious clothing. As many atheist do to try and fool people.
Political activist Barry Lynn is an atheist who also calls himself a reverend. And wears religious clothing. He was a frequent guest on the old Hannity and Colmes Fox television show.
And black liberation Marxist theology has no place in any real church.
I’m sorry, last time I checked, churches are private businesses. (That SHOULD pay taxes) How is it governed that they can allow/disallow anything in a private place? This also violates the first amendment, governing how people are allowed to worship.
Churches have been exempt from taxes since colonial times on the American continent. It’s not new. Churches have nearly always been exempt from taxes in the United States.
The purpose of taxes are to change the behavior of people. And many people do not like churches. Atheists for whatever reason. So these individuals would love to tax churches to change the behavior of the church.
No one has ever made the argument that by taxing churches would bring Revenue into government coffers. The stated goal of those that want to tax churches is to change the churches Behavior.
So another words those that want to tax churches really don’t support the First Amendment to the Bill of Rights.
However there are many churches that would actually love to have this tax exemption for churches be repealed. Because they would love to get into the business of promoting their free speech rights. And perhaps that’s one reason why that exemption is still on the books.
It was Lyndon Baines Johnson Who first got a law passed that limited the Free Speech activities of churches through the tax code. Because a church way back when, chose to support his opponent when he ran for re-election.
The Bible says, “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.” Don’t assume that because Warnock is a pastor, he would move us toward that goal. Warnock and Ossoff are both unapologetically opposed to Godly, Biblical values. I pray every legal Georgia voter will understand that, and go vote accordingly.
How about armed members standing guard outside the church?
Having guns in the hands of good people trained to use them we’re very helpful. When evil came to the White Settlement Church in Texas.
Sadly before the evil man was killed he shot and killed two of the parishioners. But what was really interesting was the six or seven other parishioners who also had guns. Including one of them being a woman. All of them directed people out of the church to safety.
Well that’s fair, because a bible doesn’t have a place in my house either.
And I can tell you, Wall Street will certainly appreciate support for their wealthy elitist selection, Kelly Loeffler.
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Loeffler’s husband, Jeff Sprecher, is the CEO of Intercontinental Exchange (ICE), the parent company of the New York Stock Exchange. Before she became senator, Loeffler was a senior executive at ICE.“
Of course she had to engage in insider trading with her confidential information from the secure briefing for the Senate, she’s quality people who are a little better than the rest of us.
The wife of the CEO of the parent company of the New York Stock Exchange, you know, just plain folks who understand the plight of working people everywhere.
Well i know for a fact you are not a men of GOD, with that said, you Raphael have no business been a leader in the church little less the state of GA or any other states, church’s, not even your home, a man of GOD doesn’t judge people just because bad things happens, that alone is committing sin, America already has to many none believes and unholy people in high office’s we don’t need another anti -christ, in office, drop out, if you love this country, do something good for once, Get Right With God, then do right by the people and the church, step down, confesse and ask God for forgiveness of your lying wicked ways, VOTE for KELLY
“Well i know for a fact you are not a men of GOD”
A little quick with you judging exactly who’s with God and who’s is not, aren’t you?
Interestingly, your own statement proves you are not a man of God.
“Judge not, lest ye be judged”
That’s right now run along to the parade.