The first rule of gunfighting is — we all know this, right? — have a gun. Once you have a gun, conventional wisdom suggests your choice of caliber is not of primary importance. There are, of course, limits to this conventional wisdom. A 23-year-old Georgia man discovered that no legitimate defensive caliber begins with “point one seven seven” . . .
Let’s head to Channel 11-Atlanta for the details:
Ryan Jones was shot at around 4:30 p.m. Sunday outside a house in the 9900 block of Bells Ferry Road near Holly Street in Canton.
Witnesses told Cherokee County Sheriff’s investigators that Jones arrived at the house with a BB gun and demanded to be paid for a debt he claimed he was owed.
A person inside the house, 43-year-old Brian Turner of Woodstock, shot Jones with a shotgun. Turner was a guest at the house, according to Cherokee County Sheriff’s Lt. Jay Baker.
Jones was taken to Northside Hospital Cherokee with non-life-threatening gunshot wounds.
Baker said investigators obtained a search warrant for bodily fluids to determine if Turner was under the influence. Turner refused to comply with the warrant and was arrested for obstruction; he has not yet been charged in the shooting.
Jones is being held in the Cherokee County Adult Detention Center on $1,000 bond.
The outcome of this confrontation came as a surprise to…whom? Other than exactly nobody, ever?
I’ve got two questions for the Armed Intelligentsia. First, what are the odds Jones wasn’t drunk? And second, how old does the allegedly 23 year-old Jones look to you?
Is it against the law to use a shotgun in a private residence while drunk?
Not in Georgia. According to the carry laws here that I’ve found, it is illegal to discharge a firearm with a BAC over 0.08, except in self defense.
This is not legal advice, just my readings.
Why were they interested in the homeowner’s blood alcohol level?
It looks like your usage of “Jones” in the last paragraph for the first instance should be “Turner” as only his blood alcohol was mentioned in the quoted text in the post above.
It would seem that Turner was the one arrested, which explains the orange jumpsuit. And yeah he looks 43. I think Jones is in the hospital.
I just bought a .243 for my meat rifle. Why do I suddenly feel so inadequate……
I am looking at .25-06 as a meat rifle. Thoughts?
When I was young (maybe 8 or 10) I found a pair of rifles and some ammo in my parents’ attic. One was (I now know) a lever action in .22LR, the other took a large centerfire cartridge, maybe a .30-06. (Mom no longer remembers.)
I figured out how to load them, and how to cycle rounds through so as to unload them. Then I put everything back and went downstairs after managing to not fire them.
I told my folks about this, oh, 30 years later. It’s just not that hard to understand that some stuff, you shouldn’t broadcast to the world.
Wow he looks like he is 55
Just a kid! Or maybe in his case we’d call him a sapling.
You want the kids, so they can donate more money.
“Gentlemen, which brings me to my next point. Don’t smoke crack.” Lawrence “LT” Taylor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7_UaFR9cA0
Looks mid 40s to me.
has MDA ever really won anything? Seriously. Has Shannon been able to give Bloomy any bang for his buck?
To quote a famous punch line, “Madam, we have already established what sort of woman you are, we are merely negotiating the price.”
Photo is of Turner, who was arrested for the refusal to submit to alcohol test.
http://canton-ga.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/man-demanding-debt-payment-shot-outside-canton-home
This fellow is border line crazy. If you start firing up the police they will rain s**t down on you like there is no tomorrow. And quite literally there will not be one for him if he initiates a firefight. Whatever else we don’t take the law into our own hands. If we do the greater weight of authority will prevail. If armed insurrection is what this fellow wants, he and those of his ilk will be bitterly disappointed at the outcome, because an overwhelming majority of Americans will not support it.
Reminds me of a Simpson’s episode, but I can’t find a clip 🙁
“Smoking ruined my life. I’m only 35 years old.”
The photo above is that of Mr. Turner, age given as 43. From what I can gather, Mr. Jones, who lives about 20 miles away in Cartersville, visited Mr. Turner, who is apparently a guest at a third party’s home in Canton, was visited by Mr. Turner who demanded payment for a debt with a weapon, to wit, a BB gun of some sort.
Mr. Turner may well have been intoxicated, after all it was Sunday evening and they could have been having a BBQ on the porch or something. But as Kelly in GA noted, it’s not illegal to discharge a firearm even under the influence if it was in self-defense. As this appears to be one party’s word against the other’s without any mention of the homeowner or other witnesses, I’d say Mr. Turner could be on shaky legal ground to say the least. But Mr. Jones may still get the short end of the deal if he’s charged with attempted robbery or something of the sort, AND he got shot (which he’ll get a nice big bill from the hospital for) to boot.
I’m chalking this one up to stupidity deserving an equal and opposite stupidity, for now.
Tom
I would say that if the OP has had nearly 150 hours of training and has never been instructed to holster slowly and watch it back into the holster, he needs to find better instructors.
Everybody seems to be focused on the OC issue. That’s important but, my guess is that there is a lot more for an NRA board member to deal with. Rob’s thoughts on firearm education in schools would seem to be way more important. That will probably have a greater effect long term. Besides, I miss Eddy Eagle. 🙂
He gets my vote. He’s sharp.
Face facts. Full auto is dead as a door nail. Check out Dave Hardy at the time…
http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2008/03/transcript_of_h.php
And NRA Ex-president David Keene last week…
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26386434
Is it just me or should there be a “the” in between stops and mentally ill….
it’s back to a belt, Goof exactly what, the sum can’t be reduced this, {nevertheless|although|nonetheless|however . quick again.
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Why is an AR styled firearm called a “Patrol Carbine” when LEO’s have them, and “assault weapons” when civilians have them?
Don’t forget to secure your dog before the police show up, give the dispatcher a description of what you are wearing, and you are the homeowner, business owner, etc,… As previously posted, they are coming in hot, and some cops are “hotter” than others…