Reader David H. writes:
How will the Supreme Court rule on the right to carry firearms they’re presented with a case? They already have, of course. Twice. In case you’ve forgotten . . .
In 2008, The SCOTUS ruled in Heller v. DC that the right to own weapons for personal defense was protected under the Second Amendment. Then, in 2010’s McDonald v. Chicago, the SCOTUS held that the Second Amendment is incorporated under the Fourteenth Amendment, therefore firearms rights are not subject to undue burden by state and local laws.
So, you ask, what does this have to do with carrying a firearm? The operative, declarative clause of the Second Amendment states, “the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” The court held that “the People” was a clear indication of an individual right.
But, you say, Heller only ruled on the right to own firearms. That’s one way of looking at it, but the Heller decision was based on the Second Amendment, and McDonald established the Second Amendment was inviolate by state and local laws. To see how this impacts carrying a firearm, you need only do a little logical analysis.
The statement, “the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” is a clear, declarative statement. Written in a logical form, the definition of “the right” would appear: Right = Keep + Bear. Another logical statement: 5 = 2 + 3. Anyone who has mastered grammar school math knows that if you modify one term of an equation, you must modify ALL terms of the equation.
Now, lets look at the Second Amendment. Right = to Keep + Bear. If “Keep” is an individual right, the equation looks like this: Right = (Individually Keep) + Bear. It should be pretty obvious this doesn’t work. To balance the statement, if the right to keep firearms is individual, the the right to bear firearms must also be individual.
Individual must apply to all terms of the statement. Therefore the equation would look like this: (Individual Right) = (Individually Keep) + (Individually Bear).
There’s a famous modifier built into the Second Amendment, “shall not be infringed.” The courts have long ruled that placing an undue burden on the exercise of any civil right is the same as denial (infringement) of that right. So, by the Fourteenth Amendment, as noted by the McDonald decision, the Second Amendment, in its entirety, shall not be unduly burdened.
Class dismissed.
Your speculating. This is fact ” When I was an Outlaw, gun laws did not stop me from carrying a gun anymore then drug laws stopped me from selling drugs”race had nothing to do with that fact. …. I kaint spels, so I ain’t gonna gettin n no wurd pissn match wit no bobs
I’ll just lay here and get shot so as not to distract the police.
I have 4 or 5 Spyderco knives currently. I will say that their zytel-handled small knives are over-priced.
$30 for a Ladybug – Dang.
I carried an Endura (original with plastic clip) for about 10 years until I got a Benchmade AFCK.
Now AFCKs run about 170 when the make them so I have a Tenacious and Resilience (I think).
Good knives – just too many produced for collector value.
Let’s break it down:
Relatives / Friends:
Anyone in his family that knew he was a disturbed violent psycho could have reported him or had him committed as soon as he became a danger to himself and others.
Fail.
Community:
Neighbors, co-workers, acquaintances that knew he was a disturbed violent psycho could have reported him or had him committed as soon as he became a danger to himself and others.
Fail.
Authorities:
Anyone with a badge and a sense of duty could’ve arrested him once he committed violence.
Anyone in a judge’s robe could have sentenced him to jail once he was arrested.
Fail.
Institutions:
The AF could’ve not screwed up their job and reported him to the NCIS and recommended further treatment.
Did he have a therapist or mental exam? How was he allowed to walk free?
Fail.
Lots of ways this could’ve been avoided but people don’t want to deal with other people’s problems or are too self absorbed to notice. Well this is what happens when you don’t nip it in the bud.
It’s a pity the burden falls on innocent people to clean up the messes of people that obviously can’t be bothered.
The pre-cogs could stop him.
they exist, right? Minority Report was a documentary?
I’ve never owned a Spyderco, and I am not going to pay Benchmade prices for things I can easily lose, like leaving it and walking away, or forgetting to put it in my luggage before entering the security zone at the airport (I lost a Buck that way, and got lucky with another.)
I am on my second Kershaw. I am a huge fan of the SpeedSafe mechanism for one handed opening. The blades are very thin, very sharp, but very fragile compared to a Buck. I cracked the edge of my first Kershaw–I paid $10 and they sent me a new one. My second cost $25, with a solid steel handle.
The dilly attachment on the antifa model is on the wrong end and facing the wrong way
Spydie is good at what they do. If you need a precision cutting device, I’m all for them. They don’t take well to obscure uses like prying. My Benchmade’s have lasted forever and continually take a massive thrashing daily. I really do like Spyderco, but Benchmade is definitely my go-to Company.
$6000 Rolex? Damn. The FBI pays a lot better than I thought.
If you peruse usajobs you’ll find a ton of very, very high paying jobs at oddball agencies, some you’ve probably never heard of.
If you bother to do some research on the OPM website you’ll find that a lot of positions above GS11 or GS12 pay over $100,000 base and can pay more depending on how many people you manage/what you do/if you’re deemed critical/other factors. Career folks do quite well. Especially if they max the “steps” of the pay scale and know how to get all the add-on pay.
Probably a gift in return for some activity he overlooked.
Come on dude, you know that Fed didn’t buy that watch with his salary. He swiped it from a crime scene or just took it as a bribe.
People need to understand that police, federal agents are literal Tony Sopranos, only they have no sense of honor.
Wow, lots of chatter for a paid spot on TTAG.
While I’m here, the Spyderco Bushcraft is my fave. Followed by my Rescue, then my Police, then my Endura, then the SzaboHawk.
Jon Wayne Taylor has the Schnauzerschutzen PMS attached backwards.
Just another Soros hand-puppet
Shes living proof you can shoot a liberal in the head and not hit anything vital.
I wouldn’t care if Putin or ISIS gave money to the NRA… I’m still pissed at Bill Clinton
tell him he saved my life, if that gunman went in for the 4th, i might been killed right along with my niece.
That picture makes it seem that Giffords is fisting the NRA. Oh the outrage!
If the Republicans had any balls or cared at all about liberty, they would immediately pass national reciprocity in retaliation for this nonsense even being proposed. But we don’t have to worry about that happening.
The Democrats clearly want a second American Civil War with millions dead, and no, I’m not kidding. If some of these stupid Republicans don’t wake up, it just might go there.
The term at question is way too vague. “A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.” Is a M1911 a semiautomatic firearm? There have been fully automatic versions.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/03/29/colt-m1911-machine-pistols/
So, would the M1911 considered the original form? Or, given the existence of fully automatic M1911s, would the normal M1911 be considered a semi auto version of an automatic?
Vote Democrats out. The root of this idiocy is with them.
Faith and Tim need to shut up and sing to whatever remains of their audience.
While the Hudson does appear to be a well-engineered and well-built pistol, the accuracy is unacceptable at the price.
My Kahr MK9 produces better groups than that freehand, costs less,and is an ultracompact, to boot.
My bone stock Glock 19 will outshoot it for $500.
Guns which are equivalent in price will all outshoot it, from SIGs to Kimbers.
I don’t understand why a pistol which is so expensive is built to such a loose standard. It’s not like the H9 is going to compete for military or police contracts. It’s only ever going to be a range toy for 90% of its customer base. I also seriously doubt this will ever be someone’s first or only handgun.
I hope they can improve the accuracy.
I always wonder why this dude is wearing a suit to go to the range, or to chat on youtube. Is that his business tactical gear? It’s plain weird.
“what was it you said about women of my caliber?”
The real facts are that any criminal that just walked out of prison or any nut case (the latest mass murder) who just walked out of mental institution can simply go to the nearest gun show and buy all the weapons and high capacity magazines he wants no questions asked. This is pure insanity. All other civilized nations have vetted all gun purchases long ago as well as requiring safe storage to prevent theft and accidental child shootings which amount to over 10,000 a year which includes maiming’s and deaths. http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/the-toll-gun-violence-children
True the latest nut case did not go to a gun show but if the Neanderthals in the U.S. Military had done their jobs and fed his record into the data base it would have made no difference as he simply after being denied would have bought an assault rifle out on the street or at the nearest gun show showing the insanity of living in the U.S. of Hey which has become the Nation of Right Wing Fanatics who put unrestricted gun ownership over the lives of the Nations people and even their children of whom over half were the victims in the latest example of mass murder and pure insanity in the U.S.
Its interesting to note that when the Ignorant Right Wing Hill people scream about mass shootings in other Nations they conveniently ignore the fact that they have way less of them and when they do have them its almost always not private citizens that do the deeds (like in the U.S.) but the people who do them are sponsored by foreign governments that give them money and weapons which are out and out acts of war. Now there is the difference the Fanatics on the Far Right ignore every time.
Thank you to everyone who served and are currently serving. God bless you.
Ammo
To chips in the head
Quote——————-Prohibited persons get their firearms (illegally) through theft (40%) and acquaintances (40%). No law that you could possibly pass would change those behaviors.—————–
You flunked reading comprehension and live in your own myopic fantasy world. I have advocated mandatory laws for safe gun storage. Every civilized nations in the world has people lock their guns up. You on the other hand in your own bizarre little world see no need to stop criminals from just walking in to a house or gun store and loading up with stolen guns.
And yes laws change behaviors very quickly when next door neighbors see violators of gun laws being hauled off to prison and lose all their assets. Even guys like you would get the message very quickly.
Gun laws in Australia and Britain were obeyed by millions of people and yes mass shootings were stopped. Again if you were sane you would accept what history has already proven.
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No other civilized country permits legal gun sales on street corners or at gun shows where any nut case that just got out of a mental institution or a crook just released from prison can buy all the guns he wants.————–quote
quote————-And that includes the US, considering that such sales are also not legal here, either. quote——————————–
Hey chips in the head don’t you ever get tired of out right lying and distorting reality and trying to twist the truth. Yes you can buy guns out on the street and yes you can go to gun shows and by guns without paper work. Its done in many States that have lax gun laws and the second hand guns and stolen guns get funneled right onto the streets of Chicago and other large cities. Its perfectly legal in my state to go to a gun show or go out onto the street and buy all the guns you want with no paperwork involved. Any nut case or criminal can get one because their is no background checks on second hand guns and no mandatory safe storage. WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND GENIUS. This is pure insanity and only a nut case like you chips in the head would argue otherwise. Yep criminals and nut cases consider you their best friend because as long as we have guys like you on their side they get all the guns they want. When they have to go through background checks they get died a sale. AGAIN WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND.
And your arguing about the dead body count of children and/or their horrific crippling’s shows that for you the body count can never be too high as it might inconvenience you to sign for the purchase of a gun or lock them up in a safe. Afraid you would be denied purchase. It seems the only logical reason your against this.
Normal people who are not nut cases consider any amount of senseless loss of human life a tragedy while you argue that dead body counts can never be to high if it would inconvenience you in the slightest. You need to see a shrink because normal people do not think this way.
If you were in Japan and had to go through the police interview before being given a firearms i.d. card you would not only be denied this because of your above bizarre responses but probably be placed under mandatory psychiatric care as well. Your constant denial of how guns get into the hands of criminals and nut cases and your denial that nothing can be done about it when other nations have done much to prevent senseless gun deaths shows your not playing with a full deck of cards.
In conclusion you can deny the success of other nations in dealing with gun deaths, you can deny that criminals and nut case can buy all the guns they want because of our total lack of a Federal gun universal background checks and mandatory storage and you can rant about how you could not care less about how high the body count is but normal people think otherwise and history is on their side.
Also did anyone notice there is one lady in there with that looks like a Hi-point carbine? At about a minute it. And I don’t thin anyone is currently make a real ‘prop’ for one of those. And truth be told… it would probably be cheaper to buy a real one.
If you are hunting BIG game (not dangerous game) with a handgun: go big or stay home in terms of caliber. And choose the right cartridges.
Minimum:
— .357 Magnum revolver with 6-inch barrel shooting 180 grain bullets.
— 10 mm Auto with 5-inch barrel shooting 180 grain bullets.
Better:
— .41 Magnum revolver with 6-inch barrel shooting 220 grain bullets.
Best:
— .44 Magnum revolver with 6-inch barrel shooting 240 grain bullets.
OVERKILL:
— .454 Casul revolver with 6-inch barrel shooting 325 grain bullets.
Ridiculous:
— Anything larger than the above.
Important note: all bullets should be jacketed softpoint or hardcast lead (semi-wadcutters or with large flat meplates).
Have people killed big game with smaller calibers or hollowpoint bullets? Sure. Are smaller calibers or hollowpoint bullets anywhere near as reliable for dropping your game in short order? NO!
Florida’s never going to get open carry. Florida is dominated by RINOs. Fuckin Shit box.
Regarding the Glock-taster, I must tell you that, as Ceiling Cat is my witness, none of the folks at West Coast Armory have *ever* recommended this course of action with any of my purchases, not pistols, rifles, accessories or care products.
Let his fear and self-loathing forever segregate him from those he might otherwise regard as peers as he looks to the State for the protection of him and his. Perhaps some day he may be whole enough to bear the responsibility on his own.
Should I even bother commenting…We all know this is a blatant attack on the USA by both enemies Foreign, and Domestic…On our US Constitutional-Bill of Rights, freedoms, and principles…Even with Trump in office who promised 2nd Amendment reforms…We the People are still begging government representatives, judiciary and the Law Enforcement community to uphold “All of our Civil Rights…” But, in most cases to no avail…Creeping Incrementalism , Divide & Conquer are still the Political ploy of the day to destory liberty…Instead of passing notes here on this comments board…What decisive legal challenges are We the People going to put forth to unhorse Anti-American, and Anti-Freedom forces inside the USA?!?
Hey, asshole, if and when I drive a Formula One car on a public highway and pose a danger to other commuters, throw my ass in jail. Hint: it’s illegal to do that, just like it’s illegal to use an MSR to kill people.
Knives, swimming pools and bare fists kill more people every year, individually than all rifles of all kinds. Should we limit knives to chefs, pools to Olympic athletes and mandate amputation of hands at birth because they may kill people?
How about fertilizer and diesel fuel? Combined, they can kill hundreds of people at a time, and in fact, have done so several times in the past. Should we outlaw farming and trucking because it contributes to Petrochemical Violence?