There’s a breaking story out of Virginia that is shaping up to be the worst kind of defensive gun use. Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was found severely stabbed last night in his head and torso at his Virginia home last night, and the body of his son was found shot to death nearby. According to the police, they are not seeking any other suspects. In other words, either the father shot the son to save his own life, or the son committed suicide after attempting to kill his dad. From CNN:
His son withdrew from The College of William & Mary last month after being enrolled off-and-on since 2007, according to a statement from the school. The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that Gus Deeds had been given a mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday — but was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the Rockbridge County Community Services Board, told the newspaper.
We still don’t know all the facts in this case, but we’ll keep you informed.
I have always loved the lines of a BHP; it was flat-out elegant. Finally got my hands on a 1972 mfg. date at a local gun shop. Picked up two more 13-rd. mags at a gun show and have been loving it ever since. This gun almost out-shoots my M-41 .22. Super accurate, comfortable to hold, and always draws good comments when i go to the range. Thanks for the review and history lesson.
for everyday carry, hands down has to be a Glock. seriously, there has never been a malfunction, never have to send it back to remove burrs, functions flawlessly every single time you pull the trigger. I have several nice fancy sigs, 1911’s, etc, but when my life is on the line it has to be a glock. I actually hated Glocks, hated the way they look, hated the way they feel in the hand, hated that they are plastic, etc. My wife bought one on her own as her CCW and I figured I would take it to the range and try it out. shoots just as accurately as any other handgun I own. that is saying that these guns are way more accurate than I can shoot, obviously. Ever wonder why 9 out of 10 competition shooter use a Glock? ever wonder why the guy shooting a 1911 in competitions always comes in 2nd to a Glock shooter? why even consider anything else?
Apparently the son stabbed the dad then offed himself.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Senator-Creigh-Deeds-Assaulted-in-Bath-County-Home–232498761.html
I’m trying really hard not to point out how if Sandy Hook had led to a crusade for mental health care instead of gun control, this kid would probably be alive. I consider this one poetic justice for the father, and tragic unintended consequences for the son. I really hope that the father realizes that his party platform kept his son from getting the treatment he needed.
I hope that RF posts the video I sent him talking about mental health.
Yes, something should have been done about mental health. A lot of lip service was put into play and then nothing. The Malloy commission in CT did not even bother to pretend to release something on mental health although they spent a lot of tax dollars making believe they where doing something.
Same at the federal level — what happened to the bipartisan bill — nothing.
Having a family member with mental health problems, it is hell when you cannot find a bed to help them out and you are basically their care giver 24/7 until they can get the treatment they need. Thanks to the ACLU and democrats, many of the needed beds have been eliminated.
That aside, how do you determine that someone is going to do something like this? Yes, this person had a mental health issue, but unless they have a violent past or they are heavy into drugs or alcohol abuse, there is little to say the person will be violent. If had a past history of doing harm to himself or others, then the system failed. Maybe his father will finally use his position to do something good by bringing the problem to light that our mental health system is broken and needs repair.
In the end, it is less than 1% of all violent crimes are caused by someone with a mental health issue however 50% of all police related shootings where someone is killed the person killed had a non-violent mental health history.
Report is son stabbed the senator then offed himself.
Anybody know where I can find a P220 elite reverse…I had one and sold it and now I want another one….can someone please email me if they know where I can find one…I’m in Temple Tx and having trouble locating one…I would buy a used also if its in good condition….
I recently relocated for a new job. When I was looking I sent a resume to Tracking Point (I think it was for a ballistics engineer). Now I’m kind of glad I didn’t get it…..
If I saw that, I’d find a Sharpie and write ‘Idiots’ over assault clips.
If we repeal anything, it should be the first amendment rights of dumb asses like her.
Hmm, I was thinking more along the lines of over aggressive hair care.
I’m already home sick today, and now you show me this. I’m going to the hospital.
Meme prediction; “only Obamacare can save our mental health system, so opposing Obamacare = supporting mentally ill killers.”
I carried a Browning Hipower both on and off duty from the late 1970’s to mid 1990. It is one of the few pistols than can easily fill both roles.Through many thousands of qualification/training rounds it never missed a beat. I also used it twice to defend my life, much to the dismay of an armed robber and a dude who decided to point his .45 at me one night on a disturbance call.
A fine piece of art and a great pistol, made of wood and steel…ahhh yes!
hey ive been hit by an assault clip i pissed off a friend and BAM right upside the head came a p mag …i mean clip and it hurt
Protect kids, home school them.
There are few areas In the US as economically disadvantaged as Appalachia. We’re so poor we can’t afford to have a study about how poor we are. That said, the violence rate here, outside of metropolitan areas (of which there are few) is very, very low. I live in one of the seven poorest counties in Ohio. We have a serious drug problem (oxycontin) and a major problem with burglary. We also have an unemployment rate that would make your head spin( 7.7% but that doesn’t begin to account for the high number of people who will not work and are not seeking work (SSI, SSD and chronic consumers of public assistance. However, we have a very low incidence of violence. I contribute our low violence ( our murder rate hovers around zero) to both the prevalence of armed homes and citizens and the fact that family still means something here, even to criminals.
Arguably, what separates us from Chicago is that we take murder seriously here. Plea bargains in murder cases are generally rejected in favor of trials, and sentences for all sorts of violent crime are statistically high here. You can kill people in Chicago all day long and tell yourself that you’ll eventually end up back on the street. Do that here and you know, if you live through the spree, you’ll never live outside prison walls again.
The difference is that we don’t tolerate violent offenders. You decide why Chicago and places like it do, I’m not giving my opinion, but when you won’t tolerate such offenders you don’t have many of them.
On the GOVERNMENT TYRANNY point:
Everyone likes to point out that all-out conflict with the government using small arms would be ineffective. This is a straw man argument. The Second Amendment is there to prevent all-out conflict with the government.
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it formalizes the fact that the People have not relinquished their natural right of defense to the State in the highest law of the land. This prevents a State monopoly on force, which promotes an ingrained balance of power that need not be tested to prove effective. By the Second Amendment, the instrumentalities of the State (police, military, etc.) are no greater (in theory) than ordinary men, and THIS is what prevents the State and its instrumentalities from taking grave action against the People in mass. This concept is readily apparent when you meet a good police officer that has a healthy respect of the people he polices, or a good soldier who identifies with his civilian community back home–because they know they are fundamentally just one of the People and have become nothing greater by their mere access to the tools of force. This is what prevents good, hardworking people that serve us from becoming the people that oppress us. On that note, one could argue that the Second Amendment is now more important than ever.
It looks interesting.
Honestly, it looks like they just have a lighter trigger and stronger spring…
You can do a lot with a good/better trigger.
I think this is troll but this is tooo easy but why the hell not…..
The 12 provisions below will work to make America a more safe (SAFER) place by eliminating the obviously failed experiment that is the second amendment.
1.The second amendment of the Constitution of the United States, being no longer necessary to a secure state is hereby nullified.
Ok he starts off with a problem, this is the WHOLE amendment (if they could pass it). Prohibition was brought in with the 18th amendment and repealed with the 21st . So everything after this is yet another amendment.
2.The production and sale of new firearms, being defined as a rifle, pistol, or other gun, will be disallowed until a time in which the number of firearms in circulation is equal to 50% of the population as determined by the Census.
This doesn’t make any sense??? Are you trying to prohibit the ownership of firearms or just stop there production. If you’re going full Monty here why not just confiscate all guns?? If you’re not going to confiscate them how do you expect the number of them to go down. Also this is going to create a black market trade of fire arms from Mexico…
3.No gun may reside in the same building as anyone who has failed a mental health evaluation, as performed by a medical professional, as approved by the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare).
First I didn’t realize that was part of the ACA, and how are you going to do that? Are you going to have everyone with mental issues register on a website…Oh wait?
4.A mental health examination, as performed by a medical professional approved by the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) must be passed in order to receive a firearms license.
Firearm license; where does this firearm license come from? I thought you were collecting all of the guns and getting rid of them to be replaced by rainbows and unicorns. Why do you need firearm license if guns are going the way of the dodo.
5.An income tax equal to 4% of an individual’s income will be assessed by all gun owners. In states which were at any point in time a part of the Confederate States of America, this tax shall be equal to 10% of an individual’s income. Taxes levied under this amendment shall be appropriated in equal portions to programs to expand Affirmative Action programs and begin to pay reparations to the descendants of African slaves.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…… Confederate States of America….AAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
6.Any person making the choice to own a firearm must carry $250,000 worth of liability insurance for each weapon owned. This insurance must be provided by a publicly owned insurance company to be established.
Not sure why you are going to need this since you are going to take my guns anyway? Sooo what companies are going to provide this gun insurance? Is this part of the ACA too? Am I going to have to sign up for it though healthcare.gov…oh wait..
7.All firearms must be retrofitted with both a global positioning transmitter as well as a fingerprint activated locking mechanism. Failure to comply with this provision will result in a fine, prison time, and forfeiture of the privilege of firearm ownership.
Wow, people have been trying to make a gun that recognizes its users for about 20 years now and they still haven’t been able to make it work. That’s cool that you finally figured it out and we can put that techology on our firarms. In fact that might be a great way from for me to keep people from trying to steal my 1911.
8.The National Rifle Association, Michigan Militia, and other “gun rights” groups shall be considered terrorist operations.
Are you going to include veterans organizations on that list too…….
9.United States Marshals will be randomly placed at various “sporting venues,” where a firearm could be otherwise legally discharged. This could include publicly or privately owned venues where the following (but not limited to) take place: hunting areas, shooting ranges.
HUH?!?! What are the US Marshals going to doing at these ranges? Are they there to give me shooting tips?
10.In a calendar year, no person may buy more than 100 rounds of ammunition.
That’s cool…coming soon http://www.freeammfrommexico.com
11.Assault rifles, semi-automatic, and automatic weapons, as well as those not fitted with GPS and trigger locking devices will be immediately seized by the government. The owner will be compensated fair market value of the weapon, minus the cost of the seizure operation.
AHHHH HA so you are just going to seize all the guns anyway aren’t you….
12.President Obama will establish a Secretary of Firearm management. This office will have final say over future gun regulation to prevent against rampant innovation that was not forseen by the second amendment.
What the hell is the point of this, you JUST SAID you are taking all of the guns so why do you need the laws?
Mr. Farago – slight correction – New Jersey’s handgun purchase permit system is de facto registration for handguns purchased in the state, however registration of long guns, or handguns not purchased in New Jersey, is completely voluntary, not mandatory.
They all sound like they work great! Can’t wait to watch you use them to clean all my dirty guns next time you are home!
I went on this same quest exactly 1 month ago. I bought a Bersa Thunder Plus and gave it to the lady. She insisted on a .380 so I searched for the biggest and meanest mini pistol I could find. I searched out the best ammo I could find. I was going to load her up with some Hardcast lead flat noses and some Gold Dot Bonded Hollow points.
Then, after four separate arguments (which got ugly) about her failing to take my directions and perform as well as i knew she could at the range and her inability to control a 9mm, she listened to me. Shot the Thunder Plus and MP9c side by side. Her grip and shooting was better with the MP. It was a beaver tail and grip shape issue causing discomfort more than caliber but her remark upon shooting it (at the advice of LGS owners peddling .380 like candy) was it felt just like a 9mm.
Never mind the metal frame and rubber grips on the Bersa compared to the mostly smooth MP. It just was better. Sizes of the pistols were nigh identical save a wider slide to match the frame. The Thunder Plus has a funny slide to frame size appearance if you ever take the time to look.
Took a hit on the pistol getting rid of it and lost out on one of my carry pieces being re appropriated. A good cause but…save shooting a P238, no .380 strikes me as worth the time unless we are only looking for concealment. Even then I opt for a heavy but small 9mm over a .380 but your mileage may vary.
The .380 wonder bullet concept seems like it’ll pull down 9mm recoil and defeat the purpose. That’s what it looks like.