With the statement that he didn’t believe “that this bill’s blanket ban on semi-automatic rifles would reduce criminal activity or enhance public safety enough to warrant this infringement on gun owners’ rights,” California Governor Jerry Brown vetoed SB 374, the assault weapons ban, along with several others late Friday afternoon. Among the gun bills he did sign into law was AB 711, the blanket ban on lead ammunition for hunting, making California the first state in the nation to enact a full prohibition. Click here for the Governor’s letter to the California State Senate. Make the jump for the full roundup of gun bill dispositions . . .
SIGNED:
- Assembly Bill 48 (Skinner) bans the sale of parts and repair kits capable of creating or converting a magazine to a capacity to hold greater than ten rounds.
- Assembly Bill 231 (Ting) expands the law relating to the storage of firearms.
- Assembly Bill 711 (Rendon) makes California the first state in the nation to prohibit the use of all lead ammunition for hunting.
- Senate Bill 683 (Block) expands California’s handgun safety certificate requirement to apply to all firearms, and prohibits anyone from purchasing or transferring any firearm without a firearm safety certificate.
VETOED:
- Assembly Bill 169 (Dickinson) limits the sale and transfer of all lawfully acquired firearms that were never, or are no longer, on the California roster of approved handguns to two a year and redefines the technical provisions of single short pistols.
- Assembly Bill 180 (Bonta) repeals state firearms preemption by allowing the City of Oakland to enact ordinances that are more restrictive than state laws concerning the registration or licensing of firearms.
- Senate Bill 299 (DeSaulnier) makes it a crime if a victim of firearm theft does not report the theft within seven days.
- Senate Bill 374 (Steinberg) bans the future sale or transfer of and classify ALL semi-automatic rifles with a detachable magazine or holding more than ten rounds of ammunition as “assault weapons” and the continued legal possession of these newly classified semi-automatics as “assault weapons” would require that you REGISTER and pay a FEE (TAX) on ALL of them.
- Senate Bill 475 (Leno) effectively bans gun shows at the Cow Palace by requiring approval of the board of supervisors of the Counties of San Mateo and San Francisco prior to any gun shows.
- Senate Bill 567 (Jackson) redefines shotguns to include any firearm that may be fired through a rifled bore or a smooth bore, regardless of whether it is designed to be fired from the shoulder. SB 567 also bans the sale of shotguns encompassed by the revised definitions that have a revolving cylinder, and requires registration of these currently owned shotguns.
- Senate Bill 755 (Wolk) expands the list of persons prohibited from owning a firearm, including persons who have operated cars and boats while they are impaired commonly referred to as DUI.
The full legislative update from Gov. Brown’s office, including his veto and signing statements, is here: http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=18265
GODDAMN – 374 is dead!! WOOHOO!! I thought moonbeam would have just let it pass into law. Maybe he isn’t *totally* worthless after all.
Dead? No, not dead, just delayed.
No it is dead, I don’t think with our recall effort the Dems will even bring it back. Yee however will be back, but we plan on making his life a living hell. So stay tuned!
I wish I could share in your optimism.
Yeah, just wait until Gavin Newsom is governor. We’ll have this, and worse.
In a way, I was almost looking forward to 374. I was hoping the court battle would come sooner rather than later. There is not an iota of doubt in my mind that CA will eventually pass this law in some form, and potentially something much more devious and pernicious.
All this does is draw out the wait for a definitive victory. In the meantime, it’s death by a thousand cuts, and more time for the anti’s to wage, and win, a culture war against us.
I don’t think Nooseum has a shot at the Gov job. His sexcapades in his office will be great ammo for his opponent. Totally worthless idiot. I should have voted for the illegal pandering Gonzales instead.
Andy: Yes, it does, to many of them. Please witness the ousting of San Diego’s Mayor Fillner only weeks ago.
Your are, as others do on this site, trying to imply that 38 million people are all identical in some regard or way of thinking. That’s prejudice, and it is exactly what the anti-gun crowd tries to do with pro-2A advocates.
Well he did ban magazine parts with bill 48. So you must really love him, AJ.
We dodged the AWB for another year, but we still had some big losses of our civil rights. AB711 is the big loser but not surprising seeing as Kalifornia is the land of fruits and nuts with B.S. theories about ecological impacts of lead on wildlife rife here. No further sales of magazine rebuild kits is ridiculous but once again, since only 10 rounders are legal here unless you owned them pre-2001, it is to be expected in our overlord’s continual chipping away of our rights.
I have to admit, I thought Brown would sign SB374 and he didn’t, I must pay him props on that and AB169 being vetoed also means we have one more year of SSE pistols and AOWs possible so that is a good thing.
The fight here continues…
I think this is good politics. He gave them something, takes the sting out of the losses. I thought he would veto 374 for when its author Steinberg decided to go head to head with the gov over the prisoner release issues hanging over Brown’s head, accompanied by a threat of contempt.
have owned 3 glocks and much prefer the s&w sigma. does have a long trigger pull but works every time. it fits my hand great and after practice have become quite accurate with it. i think its all personal preference. i like it! its no sig sauer but a great gun..
So I suppose the banning of lead-core ammunition means that people will have to use solid copper or steel (or steel/steel) which the forestry service recently showed has a MUCH higher chance of starting fires….
OMG!
Of course. So they will then either outlaw hunting or make hunters carry $1,000,000 forest fire insurance. So no hunting in Calif. Death by a thousand cuts indeed.
I have a mid-length Adams Arms piston upper and love it.
It’s VERY similar to the FAL gas piston system and I love my FAL too!
I’ll graciously accept “you were right” replies from everyone who gave me crap for asserting that Brown would veto SB374.
Sadly, I’m not surprised that AB48 passed (ban on rebuild kits) but that law is a steaming pile and I fully expect that it will be challenged in court.
If you’ll excuse me, I’m off to order some rebuild kits while I still can…
When she was talking about sporting rifles being functionally identical to hunting rifles, Scarborough interjected, “So the same caliber?” Emily said “yes.” Of course, that’s incorrect. The AR-15 round is SMALLER and LESS powerful than most hunting rounds. Miss opportunity there.
Actually they consider ALL semi platforms evil. So that includes everything up to 458 socoms, 308s, 50 bmgs.
SCOTUS
Where are you?
Great article. This argument really needed to be debunked.
I’ve looked into this myself (though not as thoroughly), and came to almost the same conclusion — except that I think there’s a chance that firearms could play into a higher suicide rate in one way: it’s an instant and irreversible method. There seems to be an element of impulsiveness in a fair number of suicides. People who may survive an attempt by some other method and later conquer the suicidal urge for good won’t generally get that chance if they use a gun.
But even so, that’s not a big enough factor to outweigh the benefits of guns in any argument of social utility.
Really? Why does anyone care about gun-related anything? Overall stats are the only ones that matter.
No one once has ever challenged Piers Morgan et al. when he say “gun violence”. They just blather on like he never said the gun part.
Someone needs to call people out on this, outside of internet forums. Uk has more violence per capita that the US does period. And thats all that should matter. The gun is just a tool.
Stop F@U€ ing labeling this $#!T as Gun this or Gang that. Just look at the bloody OVERALL statistics. The info is all RIGHT THERE!!!
As Jim points out both the US and the UK have the same suicide rate. When Americans decide to end their lives they reach for the gun because it is available. In the UK they reach for something else but in the end dead is dead.
If you look at the places that have high gun ownership and higher suicide rates they just happen to be the states with low population densities. There are fewer mental health resources available, the culture frowns upon going to see a mental health professional and people live more isolated lives with weaker social support network. I don’t think the Harvard study accounted for those key factors. Given the politicization of social science research my guess is they deliberately chose to ignore those factors.
Who gives a rat’s hat what he was wearing? If he’d wearing his SWAT uni with no gun, would the school have given him grief? If he wore his blues with a gun, would the school have said come on in and bring a friend?
It was never about the uniform. It was only about the gun. The gun.
using Tula ammunition
Real men shoot Brown Bear. I mean, if you’re going to use crap ammo, use crap ammo not semi-crap ammo.
I’m surprised that Gov. Moonbeam would do anything — anything — that remotely respects 2A. But then again, Gov. KrispyKreme in NJ also vetoed the worst of the gun bills, so go figure.
I kind of expected him to veto at least some of the bills, although not as many as he ended up vetoing. The governors who have never seen a gun control bill they didn’t like tend to support such bills – often rather vociferously – from the moment they are proposed, which was not the case here. Christie was also not like that.
For anyone interested in the gory details: http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=18265 Brown does not issue signing statements on the bills he approves, but does give veto messages.
Correction, he gave a signing statement on 711. He doesn’t usually, but for some bills he does
I like that guy’s sign. True and simple. I think another good sign to carry with that one would say, “Fear of guns ≠ danger”.
The morning joe crew is arguing points and standing on a base of complete ignorance. “There is a functional difference between a hunting rifle and assault weapon.” “These assault weapons are a bigger caliber than hunting rifles.” I have a feeling they would be on our side if they just took a moment to learn a bit more rather than flopping around in their anti-gun broth.
I would love to see mika brzezinski shoot an old 30-06 and an ar-15 back to back just to watch her reaction to these outrageously powerful “assault weapons”
If you are carrying 30Lbs of stuff in the desert it all can’t be on your waist line.
You pull your pistol maybe not at all but you want your M4 mags where you can reach them. The waist line is precious realestate. Keep what you need most handy.The military kit is part of a machine and it has been tuned over time.
Thigh rigs don’t get snagged as easily getting in and out of high riding Humvies.
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My Nano’s still going strong 🙂 ….lighter, smaller, (vs. both XDS and Shield) and +P all day long.
Bill 48? How are we supposed to repair our mags?
Take them to an FFL who has a “large capacity magazine” license. They can repair and/or create blocked mags (for those who have guns whose standard mags hold more than ten and 10 or less is not commercially available).
Yes they do have a fix … http://www.springfieldrecall.com/RecallUpdate.asp
My eye was immediately drawn to an interesting “cluster” in the rates:
Austria 12.9 per 100,000
United States 12.0 per 100,000
UK 11.8 per 100,000
I have to wonder what caused this. Austria is culturally dissimilar to the US and UK, yet is well within a standard deviation for the entire group. Could this be due to an external adjustment, perhaps correcting for population size or the amount of beer consumed?
Who you calling an idiot…oh you who voted the dem clowns in!!!
the lead ban is as good as banning every rifle/handgun in the state, Gee I wonder how the Gang bangers will cope?
That is the point of gun control, right?
Yankee Marshal’s a douche.
I would say more of a drama queen but you could be right. But hey he has a lot of Youtube followers so he must be qualified to declare the XDs unsafe at any speed.
You SOBs, I’m telling you for the last time, gimme my teeth back.
When aging ww2 vets heard the government “Slimdown” was going to adversely affect their benefits they took action, in the only proven way to deal with tyrants.
I am happy to see Gun Reviews on this website again. It feels like forever. I was starting to expect the name to change to “The Truth About Anti-Gun Agitprop.” I realize that it’s important to keep abreast of the political side of things, but it was starting to drain the fun out of guns.
Look what my grandson sent me for my birthday. Ain’t it purty?
You want my Medicare card? Come and take it!
Shit… the old folks home is finally staging a military coup on the rest of us, well time to welcome our elderly overlords with open arms.
Feeling lucky? Well, are ya, punk?
hey rick, I suspect the magazine follower is jumping the slide stop. if thats the case the magazine wont drop free after it happens. problem we had alot earlier this year. it will not fix itself.
Emily Miller has done more for gun rights in the last couple years than the person who is criticizing her by starting the topic. No one is perfect and overall she has done quite well since taking up the 2nd. Amendment cause. Especially in D.C. But everywhere else as well.
Hey Robert. If you can’t be creepy and harass her face to face. And then throw in a little bathroom talk like you did here on the blog. I guess it’s easier to harass her from afar.
Oh and nice touch by starting out by “complimenting” her and then call her facile: superficial.
No wonder I read and spend less time here than I used to.
1. “Joe Biden told me to!”
2. Granny Teresa – 2013 Nobel Peace Prize winner.
3. “Obama said if I liked my stealth wear plan, I can keep my stealth wear plan, so I’m keepin’ it!”
4. “You can open that WWII Memorial the easy way or the hard way – your choice.”
But a Los Angeles police spokesman said ‘the practice of celebrities hiring off-duty officers for private security purposes is common here’.” And what of the common people?
I thought I would post something since after reviewing the comments posted by so many vicious cretins I thought I would post something as a representative of the moral minority. In a civilized Christian society, one would not glory in the death of anyone, even a criminal or hope they get raped in prison, especially for what were mostly theft crimes. We don’t leave corpses hanging in public anymore; but I would be happy to give you a list of countries that do and hopefully some of your commentators will avail themselves of that knowledge and emigrate there.
Ciao.
Please to note that these promo videos always show a beginner making these hits, with an expert observer at a spotting scope right along side. This “observer’s” job is to estimate the WIND and call clicks(or mils) of CORRECTION to the shooter! At any range the wind, as well as the trajectory of the projectile, must also be corrected for, or a miss results. These “smart scope” systems can correct for drop, but NOT THE WIND! So that “OBSERVER” is absolutely necessary for the beginner to get those hits. Without him to call the wind correction, the beginner will miss the same as with a regular scope. He might be on for elevation, but a miss from windage, is still a miss. All this system does is reduce the number of necessary experts in the team from two to one. Even if they build one with a weather station attached, the wind will STILL be different, and very likely gusty, over a thousand yards, and will STILL require an expert to judge it over the entire range. Its just a cool gadget, but NOT a way to replace an expert marksman, or at best can only replace ONE. There must still be an expert on hand to judge the wind. Its just a tool, nothing more. All the hype over “just beginning”, “expert shooters”, is just that… HYPE.
Folks, before you write off the idea that UN troops might come knocking on your door in the middle of the night and forcibly remove your firearms from your domicile, just remember that not that many years ago the idea of electing a Marxist like Barack Hussein Obama to the Presidency of the United States would have been met with loud guffaws by the vast majority of voters.
I’ll kick some money to a leftist foundations that studies the effectiveness of other suicide methods. On themselves.
Just tell them that Obama’s ordered it and they’ll gladly do it, just like any fanatic cultist.
I still want one but don’t need one.
I have enough money pits to play with as is.
When one can be bought for the price of your average handgun.
Not a top name brand hand gun mind you.
Ill take another look.
Adam Lanza wasn’t a marine, either.
In fact, I’m straining to think of a single mass shooting that was carried out by a combat veteran. I think the closest we come was Charles Whitman, who as a marine did a tour at Guantanamo Bay.