Indiana Mall Shooting
Planning to wait for law enforcement to save you is planning to fail. (Kelly Wilkinson/The Indianapolis Star via AP)
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From the AP . . .

Three people were fatally shot and two were injured Sunday evening at an Indiana mall after a man with a rifle opened fire in a food court and an armed civilian shot and killed him, police said.

The man entered the Greenwood Park Mall with a rifle and several magazines of ammunition and began firing in the food court, Greenwood Police Department Chief Jim Ison said.

An armed civilian killed the man, Ison said at a news conference. In total, four people were killed and two were injured, he said.

Officers went to the mall at about 6 p.m. for reports of the shooting. Authorities are searching the mall for any other victims, but they believe the shooting was contained to the food court.

Police have confiscated a suspicious backpack that was in a bathroom near the food court, Ison said.

Indianapolis Metropolitan Police and multiple other agencies are assisting in the investigation.

“We are sickened by yet another type of incident like this in our country,” Indianapolis Assistant Chief of Police Chris Bailey said.

There is no active threat to the area, Bailey said.

Greenwood is a south suburb of Indianapolis with a population of about 60,000. Mayor Mark Myers asked for “prayers to the victims and our first responders.”

“This tragedy hits at the core of our community,” Myers said in a statement.

Authorities said they would provide more details Sunday night.

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  1. Dailymail & Huffpost are the only one reporting this on my Google search.
    No NBC or CBS or ABC or CNN found in search.

    • Hmmm. I like your report.
      I wonder if it would be helpful for someone to do a running public service such as you have just done.
      Monitor the news for such incidents.
      At some point – say 72 hours after the incident – run queries on the major national news services websites and also on the major publications within 75 miles or so of the incident. Make adjustments for the “market” for news.
      Develop a spreadsheet with the major news services plus the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th publishers nearest . . . farthest from the incident.
      Did each service cover the incident? Yes/No.
      Type of venue: school, mall, employer, . . .
      Who intervened? private citizen, police, private security guard
      Casualties dead and wounded.

      Eventually, a pattern would emerge. Incidents, where private citizens intervened, wouldn’t be covered by the national media. Incidents, where police intervened, would be covered by the national media. Casualties low and high, respectively.

      • I was thinking a list of mass shootings stopped by citizens would be useful, but your idea is much better. There should be a “suicide” category in the “Stopped By” section. IIRC 50% of mass public spree shootings end in suicide without any intervention by another party.

        • “50% of mass public spree shootings end in suicide without any intervention by another party.”

          … and even then a gun was used to stop the threat.

        • Interestingly enough, and I really aught to go find the source on this to cite but I’m too lazy, recently it appears as though mass shooters (and I mean real ones not gang related and or family annihilators) are evolving. They are, by and large, no longer fleeing at the first sign of armed resistance and killing themselves. They are returning fire and or planning for the confrontation with some form of body armour. We need to adapt as well and train for these new types of threats. Off topic from the main focus but thought I’d share anyway.

      • On Sunday evening, Meyers also thanked the person who fatally shot the gunman during the attack.

        “This person saved lives tonight,” the mayor said in another statement. “On behalf of the City of Greenwood, I am grateful for his quick action and heroism in this situation.”

    • Then your search wording is bad.
      I found multiple reports from multiple news sites hours ago.

  2. This will not stop the anti-2nd Amendment individuals and groups, along with the Biden Administration attempts to take our firearms away from us. They will just use this a another stepping stone to restrict the 2nd Amendment. At least someone was there to take care of this, unlike the cops in Uvalde, TX.

  3. “The man entered the Greenwood Park Mall with a rifle and several magazines of ammunition and began firing in the food court, Greenwood Police Department Chief Jim Ison said.

    An armed civilian killed the man, Ison said at a news conference.”

    But, the Leftist Scum ™ like Shannon Watts claims a “Good guy with a gun” is a lie!

    That it *never* happens!

    That would mean they lie, and that’s impossible! (according to them, that is…) 🙁

    • The good guy with a gun happens ~7,000’ish times daily in the United States. Over 99% of them don’t make the news, but they are there in various police reports when they are aggregated and unfortunately they are not tracked in agency statistics

      • If 1% of these ggwg responses WERE reported, you’d read or hear about them over 2500 times per year. Sorry, they mainly end up under the MSM rug.

  4. Obvious alt-right, neo-nazi, white supremacist propaganda. It is settled science that if there truly was an “armed citizen” in the food court, that person would have shot everyone in sight, including himself.

  5. With all due respect to @toddstarnes, whoever he is, this has NOTHING to do with why we have a 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is a check against a tyrannical government. Self defense against deranged criminals is just a convenient side effect of an armed society.

    • Also, does anyone else think the ATF agent on the right should maybe, I don’t know, find some more relaxed fitting jeans?

        • Hey, I’m not the one who put her tats and ass on my computer screen. Don’t shoot the messenger.

          Also, get a life.

        • If you hide behind all those tats on her arm, it’d be “camouflage”.

          If any younger ladies are reading this, please, please, please avoid obnoxious tattoos. A few small tasteful ones (at most) can be very sexy if done right, but an overweight body covered with globs of greenish black hieroglyphs and creatures screams “I have no good sense”.

        • Well, these women appear to be an improvement over the Uvalde ATF agent with the tight buns and high heels. The large woman may be less attractive, but she appears to mean business. Or something. Maybe she’s not a silly piece of fluff. Unless she helped the agency meet it’s quota for ‘large framed women’.

        • ATF has had issues with that for a while…….to the point where a memo of theirs calling it out leaked on the chan’s and the ATFat meme was born

      • Neither should ever wear jeans, nor allow anyone to photograph them from the rear. And THESE are the people who’ll come and take our AR-15s?!

      • She’s a ‘Brute’ isn’t she? Probably “Dacian the wonder-doggs mother???? Are both women holding hands????

        Jus’ sayin’

      • Don’t know about the jeans but she looks like she was a shot caller in a Russian prison.

  6. So, who wants to take bets before, “The shooter was known to law enforcement.” comes out?

    • If you have a drivers license, you are “known to law enforcement.” That terminology means nothing. They can’t arrest him until after he’s done something anyway, as a general rule (and yes, Indiana does have a “red flag” law so once again that didn’t actually prevent anything).

      I’m more curious about any three letter organizations that might have put the shooter up to this. I am also curious if he was on any psych meds at the time.

      • Three letter organizations that might have put him up to this???? Are you a clucking wack job or are you just trolling for one??

        • “Are you a clucking wack job or are you just trolling for one??”

          Well….”Fast and Furious” wasn’t instigated by the United Community Churches of America (UCA).

        • May want to check out feds on discord servers, his statement is a little tinfoil but not as much as it should be.

        • If not trusting the government makes me a wackadoodle, then sign me up. That’s Rusty, R-U-S-T-Y, Shackleford.

      • One of Dacian’s antifa members throwing a tantrum because regular soy, and not organic soy, was used in their latte?

      • He showed up after closing time, and most victims were female. It happened after, “A dispute between teens.”

        50/50 his female manager fired him, or he hit on an employee and she blew him off, so he came back to settle up.

      • Your reference to “three letter organizations”, are you referring to Government Organizations? With the spate of these shootings, I have put some deep thought into if it could be demonRAT deep operatives that find vulnerable individuals, provide them with weapons (one way or another) and manipulate them into committing these shootings. All to give the ultra-liberal anti-gun groups and elected representatives more “facts” and “news” headlines to use against honest, law-abiding Citizens and our Second Amendment Rights.

  7. Sounds like another good guy with a gun. And where were Gun Control zealots during the heat of battle? Where Gun Control zealots always are…NOWHERE.

    • Yes, isn’t it telling that when such a thing happens there is never one anti-gun/gun-control person from such organizations that swoops in to save people. Did I miss the part where ‘Shannon Watts’ made a super-hero landing in her anti-gun suit with the big “S” on the chest and saved people from the threat like she pretends she is doing in her rhetoric?

      And just where was ‘Super Joe’? Maybe busy trying to figure out why someone doesn’t want to pull his finger when he asks.

      And where were the police when the threat became active? Gasp! They arrived after the fact, like they always do.

      But fortunately one ordinary armed citizen was able to do what all the police, and all of the Biden fantasy and government, and all of the anti-gun/gun-control folks, were not able to do and that is stop violent criminal activity when it happens.

      • Where was Super Joe? Fist bumping in the sandbox with someone he recently called out as a despot responsible for the death of an MSM news inventor. He was later seen boarding Air Force One with dirty knees on his slacks and ice cream or something being wiped from his mouth for himbyhis handlers.

        • Well, yeah., he needs to replace the oil that we’re selling to China out of our strategic reserves. Remember the good old days
          (pre 2021) when we were a net EXPORTER ???

  8. A good guy with a gun, not a police officer. Good job sir.

    The first time I put 4 bullets into a circle the size of a quarter on my paper Target at the range today. The distance was 7 yards with my ruger p89. It was a four round magazine. I feel pretty confident that I could stop a shooter in a shopping mall. Or a shooter at a school. And I will be waiting for the police.

    • I stay out of Malls, as well as schools. Neither hold any interest to me. If I can order on-line that’s what I do. Sadly, people like me made Bezos rich that’s true, but if my local brick stores would carry the one in a gazillion part I’m looking for then he might not be as rich.
      It is what it is.
      Stay away from places that have shootings. Rob-a-minutes, crap westerns made by crap actors, politician hunting trips, Malls and schools.

    • Shooting is fun. ,,,, now I’m going to have to go out and see if I can do that too. I know I used tah could but with the price of emu my practice has really tapered off.


  10. I’m glad that they weren’t forced to wait for swat to respond, as I didn’t notice any easily accessible hand sanitizing stations anywhere in the video… probably would have been forced to ask for a towelette at the counter.

    • Good job citizen. Just got done watching The Terminal List on Amazon Prime(my son got it). Highly recommended. Hyper violent. Chris Pratt is great.

  11. Some of those people in the pictures need to start a gofundme to get the money to have their tattoos removed.

  12. Man, I cannot believe you can get away with publishing this garbage, apparently you missed all od dacians information about how this kind of thing just does not happen in the real world. Everyone knows we should just let these crazed killers have their way until they grow tired of murder and mayhem and go lay down to take a nap at least that’s what the British would do. I’m appalled that an armed citizen would jeopardize his life not to mention the countless lives of the other people in the area by firing on an active shooter.

    • If you don’t believe herr dacian he will throw out 20+ year old ‘studies’ funded by anti gun groups to prove his point.

      • …. and not realize that his ‘studies’ have been debunked many times, some of them by their own creators.

        • He does realize. Herr dacian is a pathological liar.

          He would tell a lie knowing that the truth would save his life.

    • Forget about Dacian’s unhinged ramblings. Have you seen that Albert hasn’t ever felt the need to carry in public and that means nobody ever has or will need to defend themselves with a firearm?!?!? Also, in case you’ve been living under a rock, I have a message from Miner too: Orange Man Bad guys!

  13. Johnson County Sheriff cars blew past us about 90, right through traffic (45 limit), along with ambulances and fire trucks. (The mall is just inside Johnson County.) IMPD was probably closer, but multiple agencies responded, went inside, secured the area and got everyone out. You can see armed cops leading this group, clearing as they go.

    My daughter works across the street. The response was FAST. No waiting outside sitting on their thumbs.

    • You don’t need to wait outside when some citizen already did your job and all you have to do is clean up and take a few statements.

      • And they stand around for hours in groups doing not a darn thing after the fact as well. The situation has been handled yes? Besides the investigators what are the rest doing? Nothing but running the clock that I can see including the two ATF agents.

    • “The response was FAST. No waiting outside sitting on their thumbs.”

      Is it possible that LE knew the armed citizen had taken care of business, meaning there would be no threat to LE?

    • Sorry, that’s too slow if you are inside the mall with a murderer. I’m glad the killer was stopped, but if he hadn’t been….

  14. the media doesn’t want to disseminate that particular point, only that he had a assault rifle. Call your congress men and tell them to vote against the fucked up AWB.

  15. Not possible. There are no malls with stores that people visit left. Must be a soundstage like the moon landing.

  16. Just watched the Vid> Shots heard and the gawpers just stood there just waiting, as far as they knew, to get flocking shot > They did not seem unduly worried did they? What some people will do to get their names in the paper -even if it is the obituary column

    • Albert ,Americans are so used to being shot and shot at, that we no longer get all giggity.
      Kinda like sleeping next to a rail road track.
      “I’ll take a double cheeseburger and a large coke.”
      *ping, pop, whizz, kechung.*
      Would you like fries with that?
      *pow, pow, pow*
      “Yes, thank you. By the way have you noticed the bullets seem awful thick today?”

    • That happens in most tragedies, just not shootings. Today, most people have no sense of tragedy or threat beyond their experiences if its not happening to them personally at the moment (getting hit with bullets in this case) and its mostly because society has given them a false sense of security and illusion of safety and they have become used to being that steady diet of empty promises. So when something they are completely unfamiliar with happens it takes them longer to process it and react.

      But the good guy with a gun knew, and responded.

  17. There have been many times a good guy with a gun prevented or stopped or thwarted a mass shooting. There is a very partial list somewhere here at TTAG in the comments section that lists some of them, I come across it occasionally when looking for something (the search function here is horrible by the way).

  18. Simon malls is vehemently anti-gun and all those people are only alive because this 22-year-old decided to ignore their stupid signs and carry anyway.

    • Educated in today’s schools, he probably couldn’t read the sign. Or the sign did not actually meet code requirements. Or he was just an a$$hole. probably two of the three reasons above.

      • There are no “code requirements” for signs in Indiana, because in Indiana, signs don’t carry the force of law.

      • or none of them, just a knowledge that ‘gun free zones’ are just waiting-to-happen criminal violence zones.

    • Criminals, especially violent criminals about to commit violence, don’t obey ‘gun free zone’ signs. To them it may as well say “Sheeple zone – resistance free area for crime commission ahead, proceed as you wish’.

      One is a fool to think a ‘gun free zone’ sign ‘protects them’. Yet another of the anti-gun false illusion scams perpetrated upon the public.

  19. I go down to Greenwood Park Mall rarely (my wife likes Cheesecake Factory, and they have one of only two in the area), but I note that the mall is owned by Simon Group, which posts all of their properties as “Gun Free Zones”. Obviously, that didn’t stop the shooter. And thankfully, such signs have no force of law in Indiana, so the hero was not legally compelled to disarm himself.

      • That’s the great thing about Indiana. I don’t even have to pretend I care about the signs. If the property owner asks me to leave, I leave. But I have no compulsion to read signs.

        • Agreed.
          Indiana is a great place to carry a gun; probably one of the best in the nation.
          We have permitless carry, stand your ground, castle doctrine, no force of law on ‘gun free zone’ signage (that’s not federally prohibited) and VERY importantly, legal protection from civil suit for justified shooting (ie self defense).

  20. I see garish tattoos are now de rigueur among the government set, and the same ATF agent should cut back on the Whoppers. The freak show that is modern American society continues unabated.

    • The Illustrated ATF Man/Woman/Something XYZ.
      It’s a story about dogs, kids, mothers, burning buildings, a sawed off shotgunm and freedom of religious choice.

  21. Young man took care of business.

    Just like the COWARDS in Uvalde, right?

    I said give him a badge. The wife said no. They’ll just train it out of him.

    • Seriously, a friend in Texas law enforcement has related to me that the Uvalde police department is ‘reviewing’ training requirements to include a focus on checking doors in such situation to see if they are locked.

      The class room doors the shooter was behind were not locked, all those cops and not one of them bothered to check or question if the door was actually locked.

  22. Lets see if Joe Biden will make a public speech commending this good guy with a gun.

  23. If it had been a police officer with a gun that stopped the mass shooter – the police department would have been making a lot of public statements expressing positive sentiment for heroic actions, self-sacrifice, and public service, and it would have been all over the media that way.

    When a civilian good guy with a gun does it, its basically a “Shooter was killed by armed bystander, likely preventing a further tragedy.” sentiment and a call from anti-gun for more gun control and disarming the public. And, its likely to have not even made the news so its rare that it did make the news this time.

  24. @CannotComply
    “We need to adapt as well and train for these new types of threats.”

    Wrong, Boyo. The prime directive is that police go home safely after end of shift. If they don’t go home safe, the unit will be short of cops the next day. Attendance record is a checkbox on the annual review.

  25. Mall owner responds:
    A mall spokesperson issued a statement Monday morning. In part of the statement, they said they were grateful for the “heroic actions of the Good Samaritan who stopped the suspect.”

    We grieve for the victims of yesterday’s horrific tragedy in Greenwood. Violence has no place in this or any other community. We are grateful for the strong response of the first responders, including the heroic actions of the Good Samaritan who stopped the suspect.”

  26. @MLee
    “@ .40 cal Booger
    he aint got no formul lernin”

    Well, ya’ done screwed that’un up. Proper speech is, “He doan gots no formul lernin”.

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