“A CBS4 Investigation has learned Arapahoe County Deputies and Colorado State Troopers poured more than 50 shots into a stationary car in March believing the driver was armed. It now turns out she was only armed with either a dustbuster or tire jack but emerged unscathed. However at least one deputy inadvertently shot up a marked state patrol unit during the unusual standoff.” And here’s how this ballistic bufoonery began . . .
It began with two drivers reporting to police that Johnson was driving erratically on Interstate 70. Johnson subsequently called police and in slurred tones, said that she was armed with an Ak-47 and intended to kill as many police as possible. “I want to kill cops,” said Johnson on the taped call. “I’m gonna kill all the cops I can. I have a gun, have a machete, have an AK-47.”
Arapahoe County deputies and the Colorado State Patrol caught up with Johnson’s Ford Focus on I-70 near Agate at about 11:30 pm. On March 3rd. They conducted a high-risk stop, keeping their distance and repeatedly urging Johnson to show her hands and get out of her car.
After about 15 minutes, believing Johnson had pointed a gun at them, officers unleashed a volley of shots into her car. When nothing happened after the first round of shots, officers continued shouting commands at Johnson to get out of the car.
When they again thought they saw a gun, more shots were fired into her car. “Those deputies and troopers showed a lot of restraint in not causing a further confrontation,” said [Arapahoe County Sheriff Dave] Walcher.
In about 30 minutes, from approximately 75 feet away, deputies and troopers fired 55 rounds at Johnson’s car from AR-15 rifles, .40 caliber pistols, and a shotgun. Not a single round hit her.
“I am surprised,” said Walcher.
I’m not. Not when the Chief considers 52 shots fired at an unarmed driver from multiple officers (including state police) “restraint.” Now about that bullet-ridden cop car . . .
Photos of the crime scene obtained by CBS4 also show that in the bursts of gunfire, an Arapahoe County deputy accidentally shot up a state patrol cruiser. Reports suggest the patrol vehicle was struck 28 times. The deputy was standing immediately behind the car but was apparently unaware that many of his shots intended for Johnson were actually hitting the patrol car.
Arapahoe County Sheriff Dave Walcher said,”With all the distractions and lights I don’t think our deputy realized he was hitting the top of the car”. He said his department is doing additional training to address the misfires.
Misfires? I suppose that’s one word for it. And speaking of words that don’t quite fit reality . . .
Although no weapons were found in her car, a Colorado State Patrol spokesperson apparently told multiple media outlets the next morning that officers only fired at Johnson after she shot at them. CSP Chief Scott Hernandez now acknowledges that was not true.
“Unfortunately sometimes things are said that’s not specifically accurate”, said Hernandez. “I don’t think it was intentional to go out that way”.
He said somehow incorrect information about Johnson being armed was repeated and shared with law enforcement and the public. “As we know the facts now, that’s not the case.”
Here’s a true fact: anyone who thinks cops are the only ones who should be armed is wrong. On a lot of levels.
Next Tuesday, the voters in Alabama will decide. I would vote for him if I could. He is going win the election.
Was there a complete forensic investigation on the cars? It would be instructive to learn why the driver absorbed no projectiles or splinters. Does this episode prove that cars are effective barriers to several calibers of gunfire? How many bullets penetrated completely at their entry point, how many were stopped or deflected? Did the bullets that penetrated into the cabin deflect off door parts or materials? Did those deflections stop within the cabin (or other part of the cars)? Did those deflections (or even non-deflecting bullets) exit the cabin, or the car entirely? Was the engine made inoperable by any of the shots?
Stuff like that.
Go for it. Knock yourself out.
Is it not an important matter to know if an automobile is, or is not, and effective barrier to gunfire? As a passenger/driver, I would like to know getting caught in a gang crossfire is not so dangerous, if I stay in my car. Or, if the opposite is true. As to whether as a defender, I would be successful in stopping the driver of a car pointed at me, it would go good to know if cars are ineffective barriers.
Would the police not want to know the same things?
According to this headline, they missed the car 50 times, not the suspect.
You gotta want one of those clapped-out .45s really bad to go through all that horseshit!
We taxpayers ( or our parents and grandparents) paid for those things through their tax dollars. Why shouldn’t anyone with a valid carry permit just be able to get a shot at one without jumping through all those hoops? In the end, all the FFLs will buy them and sell them for 10 times more than their value.
Someone’s gonna catch hell for forgetting to bring the plant weapon.
A Ford Focus? I just re-read that bit. How is it possible to shoot a Focus 50 times and not hit the person inside?
Drama Queen caught breaks she didn’t deserve.
More proof that when pumped full of adrenaline, accuracy and decision making degrades greatly.
Also, be aware a rifles sights are slightly above the barrel, so laying on the hood or roof of a car might not work.
“doing additional training to address the misfires” Uh, yea, I guess that’s a step forward…..
“Arapahoe County Colorado Cops Shoot Suspect’s Car 50 Times — And Miss”
Wow, fire EVERYBODY involved…
And also fire the guy that was in charge of the deparments firearms training.
Hitting the roof in front of you instead of the target?? Now Barney, needs to go back to one cartridge, no more. 28 was too much, even for Andy!
If you want something shot…. Never ask a cop to pull the trigger. Im not surprised by 50 misses at all.
Was she looking for a cowards way out, suicide by cop? I think she picked the wrong county, if so.
“Question of the Day: You OK With the NRA Supporting Roy Moore for the U.S. Senate?”
Sure, why not…??? Nothing has been proven, all supposition and accusation…innocent until proven guilty, remember…???
Is it just me or do most CCW holders show more restraint when dealing with potentially armed adversaries. I mean shit, what if said driver had some kids hostage in the trunk? Here is a thought. If and When national reciprocity passes, the next step should be to disband every regular police force except for detectives and agents who are still needed to put clues together to solve cases. Seriously, thanks for your service guys and gals in blue, but this is a new century and your services will no longer be required. At least not in this country. There, I just made a recommendation that will save taxpayers a bazillion dollars and remove police officers from harms way! Its a win-win as they say.
Ever since I watched old cowboy movies as a child, I kinda had a favorable view of vigilante justice. Townspeople taking up for themselves.
“I want to kill cops,” said Johnson on the taped call. “I’m gonna kill all the cops I can. I have a gun, have a machete, have an AK-47.”
Pretty sure she was just singing along to the Jim Nabors Christmas album.
They lied about her firing the first shot. Maybe they are lying about her threatening the police.
They just started shooting at the car? No shots fired at them? What law enforcement agency has implemented that as procedure?
Eh I’ve already got a “transition model” 1911 from my grandfather with military property and serial number on the side. I won’t be buying one but it’ll be nice for people to be able to get them just for the historical value.
Of course we are you silly duck.
The fact is law enforcement is US. Not some superhuman, elite with superior morals. It’s just one profession out of many.
Personally, I wouldn’t want the job. I think it must suck to have to deal with knuckleheads all day long. As far as shooting goes, I bet most cops just do the bare minimum to qualify. I’m not judging – I only fired an M-16 once every 3 years for my entire career. Did that mean I was a fantastic shot with swift reflexes, of course not.
I don’t care for the erroneous statements about the drunk firing at them first. I expect more from a public official.
Still that whackadoodle is LUCKY. She wanted suicide by cop but got the three stooges instead.
I took the 03a3 out the other day, seen one doe and a coyote. That gun used to be lighter, by the time I got to the top of the bluff, whew man , I laid down in the grass for a breather and fell asleep
10mm and 7x20mm Nambu…
“Nice shootin’ Tex” – GhostBusters (After they light up the place and got nothing)
You know Portugal legalized drugs they treat it as a health issue rather than a criminal one they haven’t experienced a mass of issues as a result.
You mean other than the ballooning of their national debt to pay for the social welfare programs necessary to accomplish this?
They do have a star review available on facebook. Just sayin’
Nice. Good that there’s good people making good new guns out there, and nice you don’t need to be able to afford meteorite to get in range of ~ possibly owning one.
I doo fear having one firearm that’s good enough to make me hate the way the others shoot, but I think everyone is kinda hoping all of their guns are a little like that.
If it ain’t an Enfield preferably a No.4 Mk1* it ain’t shit.
To me it seems pointless. I don’t understand why it is so important to display your weapon. It can only escalate certain situations. And strips you of the element of surprise should you need to draw your weapon. It will create fear among those who oppose guns anyway. Having said all that, I am a supporter of the right to carry. And I don’t think anyone can disagree that there are too many kooks that are getting guns that should not be.
Wow I guess somewhere I thought they would be <300$.
Bummer.
The Surplus market is kinda dried up of the good stuff. Aside from Nagants, most nations have sold or emptied the warehouses of Pre 1950’s weapons. The Swede Mauser I got for Under $200 days are long gone. As for optics? S&K Makes no drill mounts for all these rifles. The SKS is likely the most practical choice, sans the bayonet. The Garand’s gas system, I thought was not set to use most hunting loads?
I guess you can bend the operating rod if you use modern full power hunting loads. Someone has to make a fix for that though, right?
I have absolutely no problem with Moore. I have only pity for people who allow themselves to be led by their outsized senses of outrage into doing exactly what leftists want them to do.
We had an episode a few years ago where the Kentucky State Police shot up a car containing a bank robber and his hostage/accomplice (never was determined, but no charges were filed against her). They fired a triple digit round count at the car. The robber ended up shooting himself. The self inflicted wound was the only one on his body. The hostage was injured by shrapnel and bullet fragments.
It is well past time to disarm cops. Citizens should be armed, not government employees.
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I have owned a 700 ADL for over 20 years. I love the rifle, however a couple of years ago I began experiencing trigger problems in a major way. Several times over the years it seemed to fire on it’s own. I thought maybe it was me or gloved hands or something. Until it began firing as soon as the safety was off. This is very scary and could have easily killed someone. My gun is very old. I had the trigger replaced at my expense.
I was told Remington has known about this problem for over 40 years.
No BS. I love my 700 but I treat it like it has a mind of it’s own and don’t allow my son’s to use it anymore.
Oh I’ve definitely got a bunch of collectibles, and would you also like the serial numbers to go along with them?
“Question of the Day: What Do You Say to People Who Claim to Support the Second Amendment But Don’t?”
Get cancer. Preferably pancreatic.
Die a slow, agonizing death…
*snicker*
You are one sick puppy. It’s what I like about you.
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I have a nice Remington-Rand from WWII I got from my gun shop. Didn’t have to jump through a ton of hoops, all the parts match & it isn’t a shot-out parts gun. Good to know they’re actually going to sell these, but it’s a damn shame that they’re making it too much of a hassle for most people.
Brazil “prevents” civilians from carrying guns, and yet their murder rate is something like 4 or 5 times the US national average. Criminals gun down other people all the time in Brazil.
Right now, there are hordes of criminals in Wash DC, PG County, Baltimore, etc. who are carrying guns even though it is illegal. It will REMAIN illegal for these criminals to carry guns after national reciprocity passes, and they will STILL carry guns. In fact, guns were essentially completely banned in Wash DC in the 1970s, and that didn’t stop if from becoming the murder capital of the world in the early 1990s.
Democracy may die in darkness, but it’s always darkest right under the lamp-post.
“What Do You Say to People Who Claim to Support the Second Amendment But Don’t?”
All that stuff after “but” isn’t “supporting.”
“Supporting” — you’re doing it wrong.
It doesn’t work like that.
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Overstated objection that fails to note that Pa currently recognizes the permits from the following states: Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming. If it can handle concealed carriers from 23 states, it should have no problem handling the carriers from the other 27. I also note that some of the sates not recognized, such as California (and I am sure others) have very high training standards (16 hours in CA.); the lack of reciprocity with such states is more reflective that those states will not recognize a Pa license.
My supervisor told me the other day I can’t have a pocket knife at work. I said, “are you sure? Because it hasn’t been a problem every day for the past 8 years. It wasn’t a problem a few weeks ago when I used it to help the EVP and Chief Compliance Officer open some boxes. In fact, we don’t even have a weapons policy in the employee manual, in case that’s what you’re worried about.” She just nodded and we got back on topic.
Despite the brief moment of “I’m pretty sure it’s my responsibility to tell you that’s not permitted (to cover our asses),” this is how rational people deal with this stuff. I do not take for granted that I work in a great place with great people. If my company ever implemented standards like Delta, I’d be out the door in a blink. And so would my supervisor.
One vehicle, one suspect, 50 shots. Fire all of the LEO’s. Not for missing, but for shooting to start with.
tapered pins. beware on install. nice trigger.
What were those idiots doing hunting deer with a .17? (I suspect maybe they weren’t really hunting, just looking for something to shoot.)