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In an interesting turn of events considering the recent Gallup Poll reports that American support for gun control is declining noticeably, the American Independent has decided to put their own spin on things. According to them, Americans want gun control for Christmas, but Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell isn’t letting them get their way:

A majority of Americans continue to support stricter gun laws, with 57% saying gun laws should be strengthened, according to a new Gallup poll released on Monday.

The news comes as Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell continues to block a popular gun control bill the House passed in February 2019, which would require background checks for all gun purchases in the United States. It’s one of hundreds of bills the House passed that McConnell has refused to put up for a vote.

But don’t worry, according to AI, there’s hope yet:

President-elect Joe Biden, however, supports universal background checks.

On his campaign website, Biden vowed to “enact universal background check legislation, requiring a background check for all gun sales with very limited exceptions, such as gifts between close family members.”

The reporter for AI seems to have decided not to mention support for further gun legislation is at an all-time low since 2016. This is the usual twist on the narrative-driven spin interpretation of polling and the news in general.

Who do you all think is right? With more americans — more than seven million for the first time — buying firearms at a record pace, do most Americans want rights restricted? Or is the drop in support for gun control a sign of things to come?

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      • Yea more gun control the government needs to supply every American citizens with a automatic weapon that fits the Constitution better than all the other garbage out there

        • I can see the argument that regulation may be needed to protect the property rights of neighbors in the case of private ownership of artillery and related munitions but with proper storage and reinforced blast channels I see no reason why howitzer ownership shouldn’t be more common.

    • Americans have never been in favor of “gun control” only disarmament of their perceived enemies.
      This tradition dates back over 400 years.
      On July 30, 1619 the Virginia Colony banned the sale trade or transfer of “any piece, shot, or powder, or any other arms” to native Americans and declared anyone convicted would be hanged as soon as the fact were proved as a traitor without redemption.
      Nothing is new here.

        • She has always been correct, racism is the root of gun control and the original party of racism,KKK Jim Crow is the DemoCommie party.

        • We have a Wauwatosa, Wisconsin mall shooting update, an arrest has been made.

          Remember the eyewitnesses who said it was a white male, 20s-30s?

          Wrong :

          “Police had said Friday that witnesses described the shooter as a white man in his 20s or 30s. But Weber described the suspect as a 15-year-old Hispanic boy. His firearm was recovered during the arrest.”

          https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/wauwatosa/2020/11/22/mayfair-mall-shooting-15-year-old-arrested/6384531002/

        • You do realize that there are light skinned (aka white) Hispanics, right? They did say “white” not “Caucasian” which would then be an entirely different animal.. As for the age discrepancy ???????? I’ve seen a lot of 15/16 year olds, male AND female that could easily pass for 20 somethings…..

        • Re: Wauwatosa mall shooting: “McBride encouraged residents to continue shopping at Mayfair mall.
          “It’s a safe place,” he said.

          Except for the gangs

        • so, IT was OK to secede from an abusive tyrant in England in 1776, but NOT to secede from an abusive tyrant in the Washington Den of Corruption? IF the War of northern aggression was about slavery, why are “we” all enslaved to the IRS today? wise up

    • To the staff of the American Independent, the people NEED to be told what they want. This freedom is just too dangerous to be unchecked without the firm guidance of our superiors.

      • No need for boating accidents to dispose of what you never had.

        I live in a registration state.
        Never owned a handgun until I was old enough to decide I did not care what lists I found myself on.

        • CO is not a registration state yet. And the CHP list is allegedly non-existent. But let’s face it: I’m on lists, and I know it.

          In fact, I emailed Aunt Janet Napolitano and begged her to put me on her list of potential terrorists, along with all veterans.

        • Ditto. All are on the state’s list, and private sales are verboten. Even people moving into the state are required to register their firearms within 90 days of getting here.

      • I sadly heard of the millions of ‘boat accidents’ that happened just after Jan 20 2021 if Trump is not re-swore in and old nutty Joe takes the spot

        Truly sad all those ‘accidents’ all happening within 24 hrs?

        • …and, ‘One way or another’. 😉

          (Something’s just not right when a white girl sings reggae…)

        • in the South (where cities & people are NOT being burned or abused) the only accidents that will happen, will be the foolish giving up the oxygen habit, contracting cranial ventilation and death by misadventure (being where they should not be).

      • Dedicated device (MAC address) over a VPN (IP address). Very easy nowadays. Half of everyone commenting here is likely covering their trail in some fashion.

        Right now I’m connected thru an IP located literally 300 miles away from my home.

        • Only the FFL has details of the transaction.

          I almost fell out of my recliner when I read this, then I caught myself as I suddenly came to the realization that there are MANY individuals in this country that really believe that…. They have no clue that all of that information they just put on that form and the part filled out by the FFL (including the type of firearm AND the serial number) is being transmitted to a GOVERNMENT AGENCY that uses that information to perform a background check on the individual purchaser… IF it’s simply a criminal background check why do they need ALL of that information about the gun? (they are checking the buyer NOT the firearm) It’s because they are keeping a DATA BASE on you and the millions of law abiding folks like you for future reference in case of… Oh, I don’t know, some gun grabbing shit getting elected POTUS or as an enforcement tool for some mandated “REGISTRATION” of certain gun types…. The government does not dispose of those transaction records and the FFL CANNOT dispose of them so uhhohhhhh, yes Virginia Creepy Uncle Joe can find out if you are naughty or nice… aka compliant or not.

    • I’ve repeatedly said to anti-gun cultists and the “woke”:

      * The police are violent, racist psychopaths.
      * You don’t need a gun because the police will protect you.

      Pick ONE.

      • You have just demonstrated Newspeak Doublethink. Where it is possible to hold two widely divergent viewpoints simultaneously.

        • Scares me how many people do it, are shown to be doing it, and lack the self awareness to realize they are still doing it.

      • Libertarians are on record saying they hate cops and they don’t support the general public shooting people who steal. Nor do they support shooting criminals in general.

        • OK, let’s NOT be like the Leftists, and be precise in our use of language.

          There are “Libertarians” (declared members of the “Libertarian” Party), and then there are “libertarians”. Thomas Jefferson was a “libertarian”. Gary Johnson and Evan McMullin are “Libertarians”. verb. sap.

          Yes, the “Libertarian” Party has many stupid things in its “official” platform. I, personally, have no problem with a prohibition against STATE conducted capital punishment. I don’t WANT the “state” to have the power to execute me, because I don’t trust the “state” to exercise that power. If you break into my house at three in the morning? I’ll bury your ass in a shallow grave, and won’t bother calling the cops.

          And, frankly, cops have EARNED their reputation as thugs. The real “police reform” we need is for good cops to step up and purge their ranks of the @$$holes. Until they do, they’ve got exactly ZERO room to complain about the anti-police movements. “Physician, heal thyself.”

  1. Sydney Powell has stated it is likely Trump actually won over 400 Electoral votes. Data scientists are reporting similar. So, no, the country did NOT vote for gun control. (It is all out there on NewsMax).

    This claim that the country voted for gun control is, as Crimson points out above, inconsistent with the historically high spending on guns and ammo this year.

    The left thrives on lies, illusion, and delusion.

    When I am finally inaugurated, anyone in my administration who is caught misleading the nation will suffer the fate Sam I Am proposed in an earlier post: they will be forced to watch endless re-runs of Lavern and Shirley.

      • She must have it…. Why would a prominent former Federal prosecutor with a high profile practice jeopardize her entire career not to mention her future livelihood and risking the ire of the over 73 million people who voted for Trump for some fleeting National Attention without the evidence to back up everything she says… Some Obama appointed Judge tosses their case, so what? that was expected, he’s just a stepping stone to the SCOTUS…. All will be revealed or Sydney Powell will live the rest of her life in ridicule under a rock in North Dakota and that ain’t Sydney’s style…..

        • Not to worry. Rudy, in his prime, was a legendary prosecutor and an effective mayor. However, he is not as careful and precise as he used to be. At last week’s press conference he included both Powell and Toensing as part of Trump’s legal team. They have NEVER been on Trump’s legal team. They are not paid by Trump’s organization and are not affiliated in any way. This is important because Powell has made direct accusations against Georgia Governor Brian Kemp and and Georgia Attorney General, Reffensperger.

          The Trump Campaign does not want to be included in any lawsuit those individuals may bring as a result of Powell’s accusations. So they are correcting Rudy’s mistake.

          The evidence Sydney has has not changed. Add to it the evidence Lin Wood has.

          Nothing has changed. Do not let the ninnies discourage you. As for Miner’s fabrications, below, I can only surmise he is beloved by the CCP.

        • Sydney never claimed to be a part of the Trump team… She has been acting on her own as a representative of the American people.. Several prominent Conservatives have been critical of Ga. Gov and AG and even called for the Secretary of State to resign (also a Republican)… I don’t give two shits what any booze brained commie loving ass has to say that is why I don’t respond to them even when they choose to attack me and or my ideals, they simply are not worth it….

        • “At last week’s press conference he included both Powell and Toensing as part of Trump’s legal team. They have NEVER been on Trump’s legal team.”

          But wait, didn’t Trump’s attorney Jenna Ellis state publicly at a press conference that Sidney Powell was a member of the “elite strike force”?

          “During the Trump attorneys’ press conference last week, Ellis described Powell as part of an “elite strike force” of lawyers expertly working to advance the Trump campaign’s legal aims—a characterization that critics didn’t hesitate to mock while also stressing the very real threat posed by the ongoing coup attempt and the lasting damage it could inflict.”

          Heavens above, you people cannot stop yourself from misrepresenting the situation.

          Sidney Powell was a member of the team right up until her bat shit crazy ramblings hit the airwaves and everyone started laughing.

          Even your boy Tucker Carlson and Fox News have cut her loose, she could not produce any evidence whatsoever to back up her wild claims but you people continue to believe her fantasies, it fits your delusion.

          So what happened to the hard drives from Germany, did they install them in Hunter Biden‘s laptop?

          Why hasn’t Trump or his attorney general moved to arrest Hunter Biden for money laundering or child porn?

          Could it be that that’s all bullshit as well?

          You people are just so gullible.

          Trump and company are working you folks for donations for their kabuki theater, those New York City scam artists are very adept at separating fools from their money.

      • Geoff,

        With you on that. If it was just Giullianni talking, I would have given up hope. But since it is Sydney Powell and Lin Wood, I am enthusiastic and hopeful.

        • I’m worried the clock will run out.

          Anyways –

          “…they will be forced to watch endless re-runs of Lavern and Shirley.”

          Fvck- that noise. Make it endless re-runs of ‘Friends’… 😉

        • Geoff,

          “Make it endless re-runs of ‘Friends’…”

          You are cruel, Geoff, cruel beyond belief.

          I can use you in my administration.

        • It is really sad to come on this forum and see all you folks continuing to delude yourselves, very sad indeed.

          Do you really believe Sidney Powell and her stories of servers in Germany being seized by special operations troops from the United States Army?

          I can understand being sad and depressed about the results of the election, but this sort of self delusion is just lame.

          I mean really, even Trump and Rudy are cutting Sidney Powell loose because she is just FOS and bad shit crazy, and yet you guys are still lined up at the picnic table waiting on your cup of Kool-Aid.

          “The Trump campaign on Sunday sought to distance itself from attorney Sidney Powell after she made a series of increasingly convoluted and baseless allegations of widespread nationwide election fraud.

          Powell, who also represents former national security adviser Michael Flynn, had appeared with campaign lawyers at press events as recently as last week.

          In a brief statement released Sunday afternoon, President Trump’s lead attorney Rudy Giuliani and senior legal adviser Jenna Ellis said that Powell “is not a member of the Trump Legal Team.”

          “She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity,” the former New York City mayor added.”

          Well, so much for the elite strike force releasing the Kraken…. Turns out it was just a hermit crab scuttling under a rock.

          Do you think they seized the hard drives in Germany and have installed them in Hunter Biden’s laptop?

  2. Well, I guess it’s a good thing Constitutionally protected rights aren’t up to the whim of popular opinion. Maybe AI and the apparent 57% of the population (which I’m sure includes close to 100% of democRats) should look into that.

  3. Fun fact: Mitch McConnell represents the voting population of the commonwealth of Kentucky, not desires of liberal journalists from other states.

    I’m sorry (not sorry) you don’t get the gun control you want. There was and is a reason we in Kentucky gave McConnell a victory over Amy McGrath, and it wasn’t because we particularly like Mitch. It’s because your leftist bravo Sierra agenda doesn’t garner much support out here in flyover country.

    • “Fun fact: Mitch McConnell represents the business interests of his billionaire father-in-law and their partnership with the People’s liberation Army of communist China.”

      • I never claimed McConnell was any kind of decent human being, just that we prefer him over your leftist friends by a wide margin.

        As to:
        “Fun fact: Mitch McConnell represents the business interests of his billionaire father-in-law and their partnership with the People’s liberation Army of communist China.”

        I would expect you to applaud his and Margaret Cho’s early efforts on behalf of the Biden administration selling us out to the Chinese? Better keep up with the party line comrade, the Chinese are our friends and allies. The Russians….

        • Biden sold us out to China?

          Oh please share whatever evidence you have to support this interesting claim, I would really appreciate being as smart as you!

          And McConnell’s wife’s name is Elaine.

        • Yep, the pre-sale opening bid (just to get his attention) was 1.5 Billion dollars handed off to his bag man son. That was just on the basis of an assumption that he was likely to get cheated into office. And you can bet they were encouraging Big Tech to use their censorship power to help elect Biden along with their Communist leaning buddies in the US Broadcast media. Wonder how much the Biden crime family and the Harris hangers on will net from selling out the US.

        • Well they (Joe and Jill) already have two homes worth in excess of nine million dollars acquired on the salaries of a Government employee and a middle school teacher…. No telling what they can achieve on the mega paycheck of the POTUS (maybe Jill will continue teaching?) One thing for certain at least one of them is a master at budgeting, hope they can straighten out the countries financial problems as efficiently as they were able to do their own…

        • Mitch McConnell uses the Sgt Schultz defense, says he knows nothing!

          “Foremost Group, a New York-based business Chao’s parents founded, received a loan of between $350,000 and $1 million from the Paycheck Protection Program, according to data the U.S. Small Business Administration released this week.

          A Department of Transportation spokesperson said Chao didn’t know about the loan either. “As mentioned before, the Secretary has no connection to the business and she had no idea a loan was obtained,” a spokesperson said in a statement Tuesday.“

          American taxpayers provided $1 million to a Chinese company connected to the Chinese communist party, it’s good work if you can get it!

      • I’m sure you can logically explain how blocking leftist’s gun control bills helps to “People’s liberation Army of communist China.”

        • “In the heart of the Great Recession, Mitch McConnell suddenly got richer. According to his 2009 financial disclosure, while other senators’ fortunes were falling, McConnell’s jumped, thanks to a multimillion-dollar gift from his father-in-law, James Chao, to him and his wife, Elaine Chao, who now serves as President Trump’s Secretary of Transportation.

          Federal financial disclosures list assets in wide ranges. The totals in McConnell’s disclosure jumped from a range of $3.1 million to $12.7 million in 2007 to $7.3 million to $33.1 million in 2008. The big reason for that increase: a $5 million-to-$25 million gift from the elder Chao in memory of Elaine’s mother, Ruth, who died at age 77 in 2007.“

      • Mitch McConnell‘s father-in-law is giving him millions to support his campaigns, connecting Mitch McConnell directly to the leadership of the Chinese communist party:

        “As China was emerging from decades of turmoil in 1984, the Chao family took a stake in a state-owned Chinese manufacturer of marine electronic equipment, documents show. The company targeted sales to China’s military, among other sectors, and was closely affiliated with a ministry run by Mr. Jiang. After Mr. Jiang came to lead the Communist Party a few years later, Mr. Chao met with him at least six times, including in August 1989 in Beijing — inside the party’s secretive leadership compound. Chao family members said they could not recall this investment.

        Foremost Group, the New York-based shipping company founded by Mr. Chao in 1964, landed its first big contract with the United States government, shipping rice to Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War.

        Now, it builds most of its ships in state-owned shipyards in China, with some financed by Chinese government loans. In at least two instances, those Chinese-backed, Chinese-built ships entered long-term contracts to deliver iron ore for a state-owned steel maker.”

        The Chinese communist party gives Mitch‘s father-in-law millions of dollars, Mitch‘s father-in-law hands him the cash for Mitch’s republican senatorial campaign.

        It is a simple as that, and you can find this information from 100 different sources with a 30 second Google search.

  4. Yeah, people are buying $1,500 rifles and thousands of dollars worth of ammunition because they want to later exchange them for tennis shoes.

    My mother thinks the Democrats are “the party of the working man”. They’re actually the party of the developmentally disabled. I’m reminded of those lines from an old Saturday Night Live skit:

    “You’re not very bright, are you?”
    “No, and proud of it!”

  5. Parts of this country and media have gone full mongoloid. There’s no coming back from that. Going to capsize my canoe now. 😉

  6. Won’t make any difference. The fans are running full speed, the catapults are loaded with manure, and there’s hands on the release handles.

  7. I fixed it for them to be truthful.

    “The American Independent has decided to put their own spin on things. According to them, Americans want Guns and Ammo for Christmas and I’m not speaking of the publication either.”

  8. As usual, the MSM plays the same game as Groucho did with Margaret Dumont: “Who are you gonna believe, me, or your lyin’ eyes ?”

    • Whatever you do don’t watch Fox News anymore. Do as Trump says and watch NewsMax. Fox has been lying to us for years. Don’t be a sucker anymore.

      • Think for yourself.
        When you put all your faith in Fox News, NewsMax, or anything else like that you are setting yourself up. Even the articles on TTAG.

    • Yeah, that’s the ticket! Fox has been lying for years, you know for sure because they now are lying about Sidney Powell. Obviously, fox is part of the grand conspiracy of the socialist takeover of America, here’s their fake news story about Sidney Powell:

      “President Donald Trump’s election campaign distanced itself on Sunday from Sidney Powell, a lawyer who claimed without evidence at a news conference last week that electronic voting systems had switched millions of ballots to President-elect Joe Biden.

      “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own,” Trump campaign lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis said in a statement. “She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team.”

      The announcement came a day after a federal judge dismissed the campaign’s lawsuit seeking to halt Pennsylvania officials from certifying Biden’s victory in the state, dealing a major blow to Trump’s flailing efforts to overturn his Nov. 3 election loss.

      Powell had made other dramatic claims without evidence, saying she had a voter fraud case of “biblical” proportions in Georgia. On Saturday, she told conservative Newsmax TV that “Georgia is probably going to be the first state I’m gonna blow up,” and accused Republican Governor Brian Kemp of conspiring against Trump.

      Powell, a conservative activist and former federal prosecutor, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

      She is representing Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn in his effort to end a long-running criminal case against him.

      Flynn, saying that Powell had been suspended from Twitter for 12 hours, wrote on the platform that she understood Giuliani’s statement and “agrees with it.” Flynn said Powell was “staying the course” to prove election fraud.“

      Now we’ll never find those servers from Germany and Spain, darn it!

      • Wait, all is not lost, this is all about trumps 3-D chess!

        This just in:

        “Fox and Breitbart’s claim of “Distancing” is both irresponsible and FALSE.
        Powell has consistently stated, from Day One, that she is conducting HER OWN investigations and legal challenges.

        She ALSO released a statement (that Breitbart has Failed to follow on) over an HOUR ago.
        ““I understand today’s press release. I will continue to represent #WeThePeople who had their votes for Trump and other Republicans stolen by massive fraud through Dominion and Smartmatic, and we will be filing suit soon. The chips will fall where they may, and we will defend the foundations of this great Republic. #KrakenOnSteroids”

  9. Amazing how a handful of democRats always seem to know what millions of Americans want. If that were true democRats would know millions of Americans want them to stfu.

  10. “Americans want gun control for Christmas”

    No, we want Gal Gadot as WONDER WOMAN in the movie theaters for Christmas!!!

  11. So, we need to pass more gun laws, that will inevitably be just as effective as the laws already on the books.
    Here’s a novel idea. How about prosecuting those that break the current laws to the fullest extent the law allows? Stop the Monty Hall ” Let’s Make A Deal” habits of District Attorneys and admonish/remove Judges that hand down hand slap sentences.

  12. Actually, the numbers are reversed. Only 30 some percent want more gun control.
    Lovers of liberty, we have a rightful remedy to Federal tyranny. It’s called Nullification. Our Framers gave it to us in the Tenth Amendment, among others. Jefferson and Madison first enacted it against the Feds in the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions in 1798-9. No executive order, no congressional unconstitutional law nor even the Supreme Court has the authority to determine what’s Constitutional for a state. An unconstitutional law is null and void upon it’s passage. The state simply says “no.” The Feds can’t do anything about it unless they decide to invade like they did the South. Two resources to learn and teach this: Thomas Woods’ “Nullification: How to Resist Federal Tyranny in the 21st Century.” Secondly is Dr. Clyde Wilson’s “Nullification.” Read these and pass them on. Demand your governors and state reps follow it. That is unless you prefer slavery to liberty.

  13. The left loves sheep and when you can’t fight back your so much more easy to control and forced to cow cow
    to the powers that be. So what the criminals are going to have their way with you and take everything you worked hard for and leave you helpless they shot them selves in the ass when like the coward Mayor of Minneapolis told the cops and fire department to stand down and let the riot’s go on with no help for you in
    sight so their goes the excuse of the police will protect you is pure bullshit you are on your own friend

  14. Regarding this “universal background checks” for gun purchases, with respect to existing systems, that I find objectionable to say the very least, exactly how “universal” can these things be?

    As to the headline,
    American Independent: Never Mind, Americans Really Do Want More Gun Control, which Americans desires are expressed here. I also find myself curious as to the polling results with regard to the following, What was the EXACT TEXT of the question or questions in this poll, who was polled, how many people where actually polled and on what basis were they selected. Yes, Iam curious, given the very sharp escalation in gun sales currently ongoing, exactly who is it that seeks “more gun control”, a routine that would most certainly have created obstacles for gun buyers, making their purchases more complicated, if not blocking them altogether. By the way, the current purchases of guns are not back alley transactions, they are customary transactions, made in compliance with existing law and regulations.

    • And how many Gangbangers in Chicago, LA, NYC, Milwaukee etc. are walking into a gun dealer, filling out forms and paying retail prices for new guns?

  15. That’s why there were 15 million guns sold in the last three months! 5 million were by new gun owners! 🖕🐀💩 morons!

  16. I agree with Steven Isenberg . hope i spelled your name right .
    The laws already on the Books need to be Enforced , Instead of ADDING .

  17. There are far 2 many restrictions that are unnecessary already on the law-bidding citizen’s for firearms control, no more bull shit laws for gun control, and nomore laws to take our constitute rights from this nation.

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