Advice Columnist Tells Dad to Boot Daughter Out of His Home for Owning a Gun

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By NRA-ILA

Amy Dickinson is an advice columnist who, according to the company that syndicates her work, “combines storytelling with advice that is rooted with honesty and trust.” “Ask Amy” appears in newspapers that include The Baltimore Sun, The Chicago Tribune, The Lost Angeles Times, and The Washington Post. She is also billed as an “expert on relationships.”

Dickinson may be good at telling stories, but she is hardly honest, trustworthy, or expert in matters of firearms, which she nevertheless feels free to opine on, including in an article published this week that encourages an overwrought father to evict his adult daughter for owning a pistol.

A man identified only as “DUMBFOUNDED FATHER” (who we’ll refer to as “DUMB” for short) wrote Amy to breathlessly report:

This week I discovered that my intelligent, hard-working, responsible 24-year-old daughter (who lives with me) is a gun owner! And it’s not a normal gun either — it is a .40-caliber semi-automatic, and she has hollow point bullets to go with it.

DUMB believes the handgun to be “the kind of weapon a criminal would possess!” He dismisses his daughter’s choice to keep the gun “for emergencies,” arguing that there have been “only two” home invasions in their neighborhood during the last 11 years.

DUMB goes on to tell Amy that he has ordered his daughter to relinquish the gun or move out of his house in three weeks. He admits, “I love my daughter and would be so sad for her to move into a place that she would hardly be able to afford,” but insists, “I have to lock my bedroom door at night because I don’t know what she’s going to do.”

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DUMB complains that his daughter now says he doesn’t trust her and she will barely speak to him, “How,” he asks Amy, “can I convince her to stop endangering us?”

Needless to say, DUMB’s question embodies a number of false assumptions, as well as a remarkably condescending attitude toward women and firearms.

First, there is nothing “not … normal” about a .40 cal. semi-automatic handgun. Semi-automatic handguns are in fact the most popular category of firearm in America today.

The .40 caliber S&W cartridge, meanwhile, was developed specifically for law enforcement use, following the FBI’s determination in the mid-1980s to replace their standard-issue .38 special revolvers with semi-automatic pistols.

Pistols chambered in the round went on to become a popular choice with law enforcement agencies across the United States, with civilians adopting them in large numbers during the Clinton “assault weapon” ban in effect from 1994 to 2004, which also imposed limits on magazine capacity.

Putting aside the technicalities, however, there is no evidence that the round – which is somewhat more expensive than other common handgun rounds – is especially popular with criminals.

Moreover, DUMB provides no information that would justify his need to lock himself into his bedroom at night to protect himself from his daughter or her firearm. That seems like a gross overreaction to a daughter he says he loves possessing a lawful and constitutionally protected firearm for emergency use. Indeed, in the event such an emergency arises, DUMB’s daughter will likely be the one protecting him.

Finally, DUMB is so irrationally fearful and controlling that he threatens to evict his daughter in three weeks unless she gets rid of the firearm, including by giving it to him. Why he thinks he is any safer with it than her is not explained, especially given his evident unfamiliarity with handguns.

DUMB’s letter is so over-the-top, in fact, that it comes across more like a parody of a narrow-minded, irrational, gun-phobic control freak than a serious question from a concerned parent.

Amy, however, not only takes the letter at face value, she ups the ante with additional misinformation and emotionalism of her own.

The very first sentence of her reply states, “According to my research, possessing hollow point bullets is illegal in 11 states; is it legal in your state to own this sort of exploding ammunition?”

Actually, only one state – New Jersey – and one city – San Francisco – bans the possession of hollow point ammunition. Amy’s “research” is completely erroneous.

And, needless to say, hollow point bullets do not “explode.” Rather, they are designed to stay intact and expand upon impact, which actually protects the safety and property of bystanders by reducing the tendency of the round to penetrate through the intended target and hit something else.

If anything, Amy’s faulty statistic would still suggest a 78% probability that the ammunition DUMB’s daughter possesses is legal. But is Amy suggesting that DUMB should solve his “problem” by seeking to have his own daughter arrested?

Next, Amy cites additional “research” which she claims shows that since 1980, the number of guns has risen in America, while the percentage of households with a firearm has fallen, concentrating the guns into fewer homes. “Why,” she asks irrelevantly, “must your household be one of them?”

Amy then starts casting aspersions on the daughter. “Where did your daughter get this weapon and ammunition?” she asks. “Is she perhaps engaged in another activity outside of your household that exposes her to increased risks and makes her believe she needs to have a weapon?”

Rather than chide DUMB for overreacting to the common, presumptively lawful, and constitutionally protected conduct of his daughter, Amy tries to terrify him even further with a single, non-representative anecdote. “I have news for you,” she warns. “A locked bedroom door is no match for this weaponry; as I write this, just five days ago a father in South Carolina tragically shot and killed his own 23-year-old daughter through a closed door — when he mistook her for an intruder.”

Of course, family members have also been known to tragically back over each other with their cars.

But those highly unusual and infrequent events do not suggest an intelligent and responsible 24-year-old woman cannot handle a firearm (or automobile) safely.

Ultimately, Amy encourages DUMB to enforce his “ultimatum,’ adding, “I also weep that there is yet another (likely unsafe) gun owner in this country.”

Again, DUMB’s letter provides absolutely no reason to suggest his daughter is an unsafe gun owner. Like DUMB himself, Amy apparently just assumes that a young woman – even an intelligent and responsible one – is incompetent to handle a firearm.

For an “expert” on relationships, Amy also seems unusually quick to suggest a father throw a beloved daughter out of his home for taking the responsible, adult step of seeing to her own protection. Worse, she advocates this potentially life-altering course of action based on poor research, false assumptions, and faulty reasoning.

Indeed, the advice Amy gives to DUMB is startlingly at odds with the advice she typically gives to  family members who disagree with their relatives’ lifestyle and choices; more often she counsels empathy and tolerance, rather than condemnation and alienation.

The irony here is that bad advice delivered by an incompetent researcher with no appreciation of her own ignorance or bias is the only real danger in this situation.

But we’re told DUMB’s daughter is intelligent, hardworking, responsible … and well-armed.

Something tells us she’ll do just fine on her own.

 

This article originally appeared at nraila.org and is reprinted here with permission.

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  1. avatar RGP says:

    Amy or her editor probably wrote that letter themselves, it’s easier than reading mail.

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      Duh. I was gonna say it was a troll-job, but she bit on the bait so hard and so retardedly, that it’s painfully obvious she wrote this. The “dad’s” language is distinctly feminine and even resembles the author’s, for starters. ‘His’ direct quotes read just like a woman trying to repeat/summarize the gist of a statement she half payed attention to.

      Guaranteed that referenced story of the domestic shooting hit her in the feels, or gave her an “opening” to peddle a pet cause, and she set to defaming gun owners accordingly.

      Think about the kind of douche that writes a “Dear abby” column; *of course* she doesn’t read actual submissions. People tend to ask questions when the answers aren’t obvious, not when they want to act as a hobby horse for someone’s stupid half-assed activism.

      And yet, this ridiculous bullcrap gets published in national newspapers to be seen by millions & regurgitated by pundits, whereas a simple article about actual gun safety practices would be refused.

      Jesus God we are so totally screwed if we can’t do outreach better than the NR fucking A…

      1. avatar Tom T says:

        I have to agree with Barnbwt. I had the same thought as I read it. The dramatic… almost hysterical… view of firearms in the response is identical to the alleged letter. As is the vilification of the hypothetical daughter. The father character offers a cursory “love my daughter”, but it is obviously just a segue to call gun owners dangerous psychos.

        I do not believe for one minute this letter was legit.

        1. avatar strych9 says:

          Clearly neither of you has ever actually met a frothing at the mouth liberal.

          Go sit in a coffee shop in Santa Fe, New Mexico for a couple of hours and then tell me how fake this is. This is the kind of shit that ends up in the op-ed page of the Santa Fe New Mexican very nearly daily.

        2. avatar barnbwt says:

          “Hysteria” is an *extremely* apt description in this case.

        3. avatar barnbwt says:

          strych9,
          Yes I’ve met such window-lickers & mouth-frothers. They often concoct ridiculous fantasies to support their personal feelings, many times by using laptops in coffee shops…

        4. avatar strych9 says:

          They also sit around and reinforce each other’s ridiculous beliefs.

          I could absolutely see people in Santa Fe or Boulder writing this letter after talking to their friends about such a discovery.

          A few years back a lady in S Fe had a home invasion where the guy tried to rape her, she shot him dead with a 9mm and further investigation linked him via DNA to another half dozen rapes in the area. The conversations around town and the letters sent to the local paper on the topic were beyond this level of insane but they all had the same basic idea behind them: Guns are bad, she shouldn’t have had one. She did have one so she’s bad. Rape is bad but it’s not a death penalty offense, he didn’t have to die over this. The “war games” they presented about what this woman should have done were absolutely batshit crazy but they were most assuredly real.

          None of that was fake. It was all very, very real. Just as real as the death threats my family received after I was stupid enough to write a letter to the local paper suggesting that Econ 101 was something the City Counsel should apply to city finances.

          The simple fact is that there are a lot of very, very stupid people out there but those people have money. So it’s not beyond belief that someone like “Amy” would seek to part those fools from their money with such “advice” in response to a real letter written by a moron.

        5. avatar WhiteDevil says:

          @strych What recourse did you have against the cowards that threatened you and yours?

    2. avatar MGD says:

      +1. That was my 1st thought.

    3. avatar GS650G says:

      Yeah totally made up letter so Comrade Amy can make her anti gun points.

    4. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

      My take exactly. Dumb only exists in Amy’s tiny little head.

      1. avatar Vorkon says:

        Even on the off chance that the letter isn’t fake, dumb certainly exists in Amy’s head.

      2. avatar Hush says:

        “I am so profoundly sad to have angered gun-lovers with my very controversal stance that a homeowner has the right NOT to have a gun in his house.” I think this explains Amy’s intent to defend the argument of a person’s “right NOT to have a gun in his house.” Which leads me to believe that the entire article is the product of either Amy’s short supply of brain cells or her editor’s! Most likely both since the editor permitted it to run. BTW, note the lie, “”I am so profoundly sad to have angered gun-lovers”. If you believe that statement, then would you be interested in buying the grand canyon? The Mississippi river is up for lease too!

        1. avatar David says:

          and I have some prime bottom land to sell–at the bottom of the Marianas trench

        2. avatar Tionico says:

          If he’s that dead set against having a gun in his house, he’d better NOT call the coppers when some housebreaker decides he needs to come in and have a good look round to decide what he can lightfinger.

          Because when that big tough copper in his government issued costume walks in, guess what WILL be either on his hip or in his hand?

    5. avatar LibertyToad says:

      I thought the same thing…fake. If a man actually wrote that, his man-card needs to be revoked. Permanently.

      1. avatar SoCalJack says:

        Fake of not, the attention and anti gun infuence has been delivered to some impressionable readers. Hopefully these same readers are asking, “hmmm maybe the daughter is onto something relying on a gun for self preservation?”

        1. avatar barnbwt says:

          Of course, and a number of us have lamented how something fictitious like this gets published while (see the Lott study) defensive gun uses of all sorts are twisted or ignored consistently. I hate to use the moronic term, but ‘fake news.’ The reason we are pointing out the obvious fakery in the story, is because it is 1) one more indication the author is being highly dishonest throughout the column by treating her fantasy as fact, and 2) shows a lack of skill in writing and persuasion, that she could not exhibit more tact in crafting her anti-gun screed to be believable, which further indicates she should not be taken seriously.

          It’s so transparent, I don’t see this winning many converts, and likely only speaks to already like-minded, similarly self-absorbed females (guys don’t read advice columns, even liberals)

      2. avatar Edward Padgett says:

        If this letter ISN’T fake, this guy has no “,man card” to revoke. He might need a diaper change, though.

    1. avatar Truckman says:

      Dam glad I don,t live in a state like that I am going keep my but here in FL. where we can buy or sell or swap guns no paperwork only paperwork is when you buy in a gun shop or dealer . I have two daughters and a son and they all grew up around guns and shooting because I taught them

      1. avatar Geoff “Guns. Lots of guns.” PR says:

        Truckman, I also live here in Florida.

        The Leftists have already been pushing here for “universal background checks” on every private gun transfer, even if the transfer is between immediate family members.

        You can bet your ass if they ever get the ‘levers of power’ in Tallahassee to enact that law or ballot measure, they will, and if you are ever found in possession of a gun that was not on that mandatory registry, it would be a felony with state prison time.

        It’s a long-game move, the payoff for them will be years in the future. The next generation and beyond will be the ones most impacted by that law. And by then, they are banking that they will be so fearful, they will turn them in to not risk a felony prosecution.

        That’s how they are planning on winning that game, with cumulative little laws that will frighten the people in the future into not daring to risk owning them the first place.

        It’s insidious and pure *evil*…

        1. avatar Bill Wilson says:

          That’s it right there! The children today are being inundated with “gun violence” propaganda in school, at the movies, in magazines, and on TV.

  2. avatar Pg2 says:

    Probably a ghost written piece. How many real world dads are writing in to advise columns?

    1. avatar Mike V says:

      There are a lot of morons out there. Wouldn’t be suprised if this is real or fake.

    2. avatar joefoam says:

      Exactly! If you have to write in for advice from ‘Amy’ you’re the one in need of help. Also, just 2 home invasions? If any part of this story is true, I would think one would be enough to convince me that I need to protect myself.

  3. avatar Rick the Bear says:

    A homeowner _does_ have a right to not have a gun in his home. He also has the right to require his daughter to move out.

    That being said, I feel that providing a bit of education, rather than an overreaction, might have been a smarter, calmer, more reasonable route to take.

    Thanks, Amy, for making the situation worse. We can sleep more soundly now that you’re looking out for us. Ejit!

  4. Yes saw this article yesterday, too…Father Obviously suffers from “Post Trump Derangement Syndrome” and NEEDS to be “RED FLAGGED”. His behavior re-enforces this notion. His daughter should have “Dumb Dad ” committed. “Dear Amy” is a of course a dim-wit opinion columnist!

  5. avatar Ogre says:

    Amy is well-known for being anti-gun and liberal/progressive in her advice to her correspondents. As is said above, the response she gives to the over-the-top hoplophobic dad is replete with false information – she obviously didn’t do her research, or didn’t care and put out falsehoods from the mad Mommies (or whomever) to support an anti-firearms agenda for wide distribution in the media. In fact, her lies are so blatant that I’d be willing to bet that the whole piece was made up by her as an anti-gun propaganda piece for wide distribution in the media.

  6. avatar Shire-man says:

    If dad really fears his daughter that much he should be kicking her out regardless of the gun.
    Sleep with one eye open dad. She could smother you, stab you, bash your skull in, poison your food, set the house on fire after blocking your exit, etc….

  7. avatar Wally1 says:

    Well, It’s his house, his rules. He should however seek mental health counseling for his fear of inanimate objects. Any person who refuses to accept reality that violent crime exists and refuse to take responsibility for their own safety must have some mental issues. I am sure he has seen car crashes, but I’ll bet he still drives, therefore his attitude about firearms is irrational. Knowing that with his unstable mental health issues, he’s right and he shouldn’t have a firearm in his house. .

  8. avatar Darkman says:

    I call Bullshit…Nuff Said.

  9. avatar NH Guy says:

    On top of being bigoted, terrible people the father and “advice columnist” are mentally ill.

  10. avatar Cthulhu 2020 says:

    Yeah….the message from the father is a hoplophobe version of Penthouse letters – “I can’t believe it happened to me!” and likely written by someone other than the ‘father’.

    As stated previously, it’s bullshit.

  11. avatar former water walker says:

    Happy Father’s Day dipshite! I expect that “advice” from a leftard “expert”. I left home at 19-never to return. I wish the daughter well…

  12. avatar Leighton Cavendish says:

    “exploding ammunition?”- where can I get THAT?!

    1. avatar B.D. says:

      We’ll have to ask Amy.

  13. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

    “And it’s not a normal gun either — it is a .40-caliber semi-automatic, and she has hollow point bullets to go with it.”

    The daughter would appear to have made a wise choice in arms,now if she could only educate the dumb father and there is no hope for the brain dead Leftist advice columnist.

    1. avatar MGD says:

      I wonder how he knows she has hollow point bullets? Hmm. I smell a fake letter here.

      1. avatar Hush says:

        How did he know it was a 40? If he is so afraid of this “not normal” thing, then it is unlikely he would even get close enough to touch or examine it….Is it a bullet or a bomb? Apparently Dumb/Amy does not know the difference!

  14. avatar ELKII says:

    Here’s my question, does she pay rent? Because, if she does it’s more a landlord/ tenant relationship then parent/child.

    In other words he can’t just kick her out, he has to go to court, fill out paperwork, etc which could take months. And he has to have a good reason besides her having a gun

    1. avatar Anymouse says:

      Depends on the state and whether there’s a lease or other written agreement. Moving back from college, I rented my step-father’s condo when he married my mother and moved into her place. There was nothing written and not even a handshake. I assume that’s the usual situation for family. Adult kids living at home probably don’t pay fair market value for the rent and still receive benefits of gratis food, laundry, utilities, etc. Dumb needs to decide whether his antigun leanings are more important than his relationship with his daughter.

  15. avatar Leighton Cavendish says:

    OMG…she probably voted GOP, too…the horror…/s

  16. avatar Rick says:

    If true… she must have been raised by her mom. That idiot certainly wasn’t responsible.

  17. avatar Leighton Cavendish says:

    Imagine if she had a whiny nasty child he did not want in the house…same response? s/

  18. avatar strych9 says:

    ‘DUMB believes the handgun to be “the kind of weapon a criminal would possess!”’

    I saw this story elsewhere yesterday.

    The above statement isn’t that surprising to me. I had a conversation with another “POTG” a couple of weeks ago and was informed that I’m a criminal mastermind and the perfect target for an ERPO because I pointed out that Cali’s microstamping law can be easily gotten around by policing up random brass from a shooting range and sprinkling it at your crime scene.

    I was told that I must actually be a criminal hell bent on murder because “only a criminal would think of that”. The dude actually asked my name so he could call the police, which elicited both jeers and laughs from everyone in hearing range.

    Not much different than the old dudes who will tell you a Glock or a PS90 is “all plastic” and “only suitable” for sneaking on to a plane for the purpose of hijacking it.

    Stupidity abounds. Everywhere. Tomfuckery is damn near the new coin of the realm.

    1. avatar Anymouse says:

      The .40 S&W was commonly issued to law enforcement officers, so I could see why Dumb would assume the wielders would be inclined to commit criminal acts.
      But seriously, a couple nits about the article. The .40 was developed as a more ergonomic alternative to the 10mm, which was adopted because of the shortcomings of 9mm after the FBI Miami shootout. They had stopped issuing .38 as a standard sidearm long before then. Some departments jumped from .38 revolvers to .40 pistols after the FBI adopted them.

  19. avatar Garrison Hall says:

    This article is about a dysfunctional family writ large. First, you have a father who’s ignorance and stupidity about guns reveals a lot about the kind of person he is—over the top emotional, irrational, baseless conclusions, an incipient anger and hostility toward his daughter. For her part, in pretty stark contrast, she appears to have an emotional maturity her father lacks. Her relationship with her histrionic father isn’t likely to improve. She needs to leave her wuss of a father and make a life for herself somewhere else.

    1. avatar Garrison Hall says:

      Whether fake or not I **know** guys who are just like this, guys who would use this exact same kind of emotion laden, wholly ignorant descriptors when discussing things they know nothing about. To air a prejudice, the several I’ve encountered tended to live in East Coast mega-cities, didn’t own a car or have a driver’s license, lacked any kind of mechanical or technical skills, etc. Fortunately, there aren’t too many out here in flyover country but there are lots of ’em in urban cosmopolite land.

  20. avatar Pg2 says:

    Can’t believe the number of posters here that mistake this for a real piece. No wonder we’re in trouble.

    1. avatar strych9 says:

      What evidence do you have that it’s fake or canned?

      1. avatar Geoff “Guns. Lots of guns.” PR says:

        It’s quite real, it was in my local newspaper.

        And here is the link to my local Florida newspaper :

        https://www.theledger.com/news/20190612/ask-amy-dad-horrified-to-learn-daughter-has-semi-automatic-gun-in-house

        Including a couple of locals pushing back in the comment section…

        1. avatar strych9 says:

          People are arguing that the letter itself is contrived as an excuse for the response. I’d like to see evidence of that.

        2. avatar Pg2 says:

          Another paper ran it and that’s your proof? Wow.

      2. avatar Pg2 says:

        Hopefully you’re joking. But I suspect not. Unfortunately.

        1. avatar strych9 says:

          Joking? No, this is my serious font.

          If you really think that it’s unpossible that this is real then you very clearly have never actually met some of the people wandering around this country in liberal enclaves. Come to Colorado and I’ll take you on a tour of Boulder where we can people-watch and listen a bit. Blood will come out your ears. Or meet me in NM, we can chill with my parents and hit downtown Santa Fe.

          This level of retardation is tame by comparison to what you’ll hear in those two places.

      3. avatar MGD says:

        Dear Penthouse forum, I thought I’d never be writing about this, but…

        1. avatar Pg2 says:

          Lol, exactly. Didn’t expect the gun community to be so fing gullible. No wonder we’re getting our assess kicked.

        2. avatar Geoff “Guns. Lots of guns.” PR says:

          “Dear Penthouse forum, I thought I’d never be writing about this, but…”

          …my daughter has bigger balls than I do…

        3. avatar barnbwt says:

          Pg2, are you suggesting that this isn’t a published article? It’s not gullibility (that’s the NRAs domain) so much as exceedingly low expectations of the anti-gun side. The author is very much real (and very much clueless), but “daddy” writes & acts like a woman…like the same woman as the author, in fact.

    2. avatar B.D. says:

      I think you’re neglecting the fact that people like this actually exist.

    3. avatar clst says:

      I have no problem believing that the letter was real. I have a sister-in-law who is afraid to come into my home simply because we have firearms.

  21. avatar arc says:

    Do people actually believe this?

    1. avatar B.D. says:

      It doesn’t matter whether it was real or fake. People like this exist. The writer is one of them.

      1. avatar MyName says:

        Exactly. If true (unlikely) then it is clear that there are ridiculously uninformed idiots who believe this crap. If fiction, it is clear that there are ridiculously uniformed idiots who the author knows will believe this crap.

      2. avatar Pg2 says:

        Yes it matters. And it matters that we are smart enough to recognize blatant bullshit when we see it.

        1. avatar B.D. says:

          No it doesn’t. It’s no different than any other article that mainstream media rights. They have an agenda, and they want you to read their article. Who is this we you refer to? We already know it’s a fake. But that fact doesn’t matter that it is, people like this do exist. And that’s what matters.

        2. avatar Pg2 says:

          Disagree. It matters that we(the public) understand our media is outright lying to us 24/7.

    2. avatar Pg2 says:

      Gullible group. Unreal.

      1. avatar Geoff “Guns. Lots of guns.” PR says:

        You don’t exactly have much credibility in proclaiming ‘gullibility’ about someone, Pg2. 🙂

        You do realize that, don’t you?

        1. avatar former water walker says:

          Yep…anti-vaxers are right up there with flat earth fool’s😄

        2. avatar Pg2 says:

          Credible enough to believe that vaccines that are not safety tested and the manufacturers cannot be sued when their products cause injury or death are really safe because the manufactures say so? Nah…I’ll leave that religion to you.

    3. avatar barnbwt says:

      Dumbass women like the advice column author do in fact exist, and many read advice columns. Men like that father do not exist. Men who are terrified of guns and would disown family over them exist, but they don’t conveniently write exactly like the author of the advice column they anonymously appeal to for help. If this had been a mother instead of a father –changing nothing else– there’d be far less question about the authenticity.

      Sure gives a window into this woman’s perception of the men in her life, though. LOL.

  22. avatar MGD says:

    Amy didn’t go far enough:

    Dear Amy,

    My daughter came home with a “grill” and an AK47. She had a blunt hanging out of her mouth and would only say, “‘S’up?” to me. She’s telling me I need to leave the house, or she’ll bust a cap in me.

    That would have been just as realistic.

    1. avatar Geoff “Guns. Lots of guns.” PR says:

      Dear distraught father :

      Chill the fuck out, or she might bust a cap in your sorry ass, and I wouldn’t blame her.

      (What ‘Amy’ should have replied…)

      1. avatar MGD says:

        I think I’ll email Amy and suggest she revise her answer.

        1. avatar Geoff “Guns. Lots of guns.” PR says:

          *snicker*

      2. avatar barnbwt says:

        The world needs an “ask the asshole” advoce column. Love it!

    2. avatar Dude says:

      Comments here are just as good as the articles.

      1. avatar Geoff “Guns. Lots of guns.” PR says:

        That’s the beauty of TTAG, and what makes it as good as it is.

        The comment section…

  23. avatar Pg2 says:

    Dear Amy, I’m a gun owner and regularly read TTAG. I recently read your letter about the concerned dad and his gun owning daughter. His letter was so sincere and realistic that I’ve decided to no longer own guns. Thank you Amy.

    1. avatar MyName says:

      Dear Amy,

      I have a very intelligent and industrious 11 year old son who has constructed a working thermo-nuclear bomb out of blenders and old vacuum cleaners. I can’t believe that he would do something so irresponsible.

      I can only assume that his goal is to become the authoritarian dictator of a rogue nuclear power. What should I do?

      Signed,
      Currently building a bunker under the deck.

      1. avatar Dude says:

        Be sure to lock your door at night.

      2. avatar Pg2 says:

        Dear Amy, my daughter didn’t declare a 20$ Bill birthday gift to the IRS, I’m so nervous about her illegal behavior please advise me how to turn her in to the proper authorities.

  24. avatar Ralph says:

    See, this is why I believe in abortion — because nobody as dumb as Dumb should ever reproduce. The same goes for Amy’s mom. And Amy.

    1. avatar Derek Hunter says:

      If you had any education at all you would see that “Dumb’s” daughter is a mutant.

    2. avatar Derek Hunter says:

      enemAmy does not give good advice here….

  25. avatar Cuteandfuzzybunnies says:

    The columnist should have corrected the factual errors in her column. Hollow points are not illegal in 11 states for example. Her failure to do that shows zero regard for truth.

    That said the dad is right to concerned. Anybody who willingly owns a .40 S&W instead of a 9mm or .45 ACP is suspect in my book.

    1. avatar GS650G says:

      He would have passed out if she had an AR chambered in 6.5 CM.
      I hear they are illegal in 11 states.

      1. avatar LazrBeam says:

        Especially with hollow points.

  26. avatar Mad says:

    Amy is typical of another brain washed educated idiot

  27. avatar GS650G says:

    Dear Amy.

    My dad doesn’t want me to be able to defend myself and thinks 911 is good enough. How do you suggest a small female defend herself against a 6 foot 3 inch 230 pound animal who spent 5 years in prison lifting weights?.

    I await your wisdom.

    Sincerely,
    Young Lady in the City

  28. avatar Scooter says:

    “Y doo theez kids nead exploding cop killer boolits in thare assault weapons? Don’t thay no thay are moar in danger with such an automatic military grade weapon of mass destruction in thare howse?” I am so concerned for the decisions made by the ignorant that impact the lives of the rest. Sad. Very sad.

  29. avatar Pete says:

    Since fathers sexually molest their daughters, it is obvious that this pervert is afraid his daughter can now defend herself.
    Pretzel logic cuts both ways.

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      He’s as much a potential rapist as she is a potential murderer (more, in fact, seeing how emotionally fragile, unstable, and weak-willed that fictional character is)

  30. avatar DrDKW says:

    ‘All gun owners are homicidal maniacs! Be very afraid!’
    Sounds like something that would be published in The Baltimore Sin, The Chicago Tribulation, The Lost Angeles Times, and The Washington Pest!

  31. avatar enuf says:

    So here’s the original exchange. “Ask Amy’s” email is at the end. So, give it a go at hammering her email with facts. No dumb rants, hit her back with facts.

    ———————————————————————————
    I love my daughter and would be so sad for her to move into a place that she would hardly be able to afford, but now I have to lock my bedroom door at night because I don’t know what she’s going to do.

    Now she says that I don’t trust her, and is barely speaking to me. How can I convince her to stop endangering us? — DUMBFOUNDED FATHER

    DEAR DUMBFOUNDED: According to my research, possessing hollow point bullets is illegal in 11 states; is it legal in your state to own this sort of exploding ammunition?

    In a report published in 2015, researchers at the University of Chicago found that 31 percent of households reported having a firearm in 2014, down from about 48 percent in 1980.

    According to this study, there are more guns, but concentrated in fewer households. Why must your household be one of them?

    Where did your daughter get this weapon and ammunition? Has she received any safety training or certification? (Accidental gun death is a substantial risk of owning a gun.) Is she perhaps engaged in another activity outside of your household that exposes her to increased risks and makes her believe she needs to have a weapon?

    I have news for you: A locked bedroom door is no match for this weaponry; as I write this, just five days ago a father in South Carolina tragically shot and killed his own 23-year-old daughter through a closed door — when he mistook her for an intruder.

    I agree with your ultimatum; I also weep that there is yet another (likely unsafe) gun owner in this country.

    You can contact Amy Dickinson via email: [email protected]. Readers may send postal mail to Ask Amy, P.O. Box 194, Freeville, NY 13068. You can also follow her on Twitter @askingamy or “like” her on Facebook.

    1. avatar Dude says:

      “yet another (likely unsafe) gun owner in this country.”
      Amy’s research tells her that over half of gun owners are unsafe?

      My research tells me that the preferred round of criminals is 9mm FMJ, not 40 cal hollow points.

      1. avatar barnbwt says:

        The “Glock fotay” model of Hi Point is also a popular choice. I suspect it’s a regional thing, in areas where it was widely adopted by police.

  32. avatar Timothy Toroian says:

    Amy, here’s some advice, STFU! If you don’t know what you’re talking about and are chicken. Here’s hoping you meet MS-13 in an alley.

  33. avatar WI Patriot says:

    Time to revoke DUMB(ass’s) “man” card, and his “father” card as well…

  34. avatar Manse Jolly says:

    “…his daughter’s choice to keep the gun “for emergencies,” arguing that there have been “only two” home invasions in their neighborhood during the last 11 years….”

    Only two? Where there you go, no worries.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_murders

    1. avatar Ed says:

      Well, there have already been two home invasions, so what are the chances that there ever will be a third?

  35. avatar possum says:

    24 and living with Pops. Can’t trust his daughter with a gunm? What is up with that? Fly’s in the outhouse bother me.

  36. avatar Mr no says:

    Is it dumbfounded or dumb Or ASS sounds like the later….and the advice columnist is not that far away. As far as owning a firearm she’s welcome to come here!!!!!

  37. avatar MGD says:

    I own a .40 and a 10mm. A .40 will kill someone; a 10mm will kill someone’s soul.

  38. avatar Trooper54 says:

    Me thinks we’re too quick to assume this is a troll job. Frighteningly, our world is seriously overpopulated with pansy-ass Nancy boys and their mothers.

  39. avatar Aaron says:

    He doesn’t know what she might do? Because she owns a gun? Bullshat. If she can’t be trusted with a gun, then she cant be trusted with a kitchen knife, or flammables and matches, or a car.

  40. avatar Adub says:

    My cousin’s sister-in-law sounds like the letter writer. She is a very liberal Jewish princess on the East coast who won’t allow her four kids to play with toy guns, whether they be nerf or marshmallow guns. Her husband grew up in a rural area with guns and hunted, but after a taste of rich poontang, his balls are in a mason jar under the sink.

    My cousin is one of the most rational, level headed men I have ever met, but she loudly called him a racist in the middle of a restaurant when she learned he did not vote for Crooked Hillary (he voted third party).

    Crazy liberals like this do exist, and they have money, and they reproduce.

  41. avatar Fudds McKenzie says:

    I’d advise the daughter to move out. She’s old enough and not being respected. We can pick apart the fathers and advise columnists stupidity but why bother? I already kindof knew there are stupid people around, it’s no big deal to have found some specimens.

    When in accordance with massive probability, nothing goes wrong because of the gun for 10 years, 20 years, the old guy can realize that he drove a wedge and caused hardship unnecessarily. Or delude himself further that it was the right choice. Either way he’s more effed than if someone talks sense into him ir the daughter indulges him, so good.

    1. avatar Fudds says:

      End of the day it’s only about the 20 billionth time a human offspring has had to leave home to get away from the BS. Curfew, sexuality, not being allowed to have a tattoo, abusive people, parents being dysfunctional slobs, religious differences, bubonic plague, not enough room to hunt-and-gather…

  42. avatar Gordon in MO says:

    Why is anyone here reading “dear Ann’s” column when she became obviously liberal long ago.

    Don’t waste your time with such hogwash.

  43. avatar Sitting owl says:

    This sounds like dumb dad has never touched or fired a handgun in his life. Thats got to be one sad dad to have never done this. When I go to the range, kind of tense, I get totally relaxed after firing off a few dozen rounds. It forces one to calm the nerves, get steady, and slowly pull the trigger for a well aimed shot. I have been doing this for 65 years now and have never pointed a firearm at any animal I was not hunting, or at any person. I was 12 years old when I bought my first gun. I have had so much fun and enjoyment with my handguns its hard to visualize an anti gun person to have missed all that. I would hate to see the anti gunners fight a war with Russia, or N.K., or Iraq. We all would be speaking a foreign language tomorrow.

    1. avatar Fudds McKenzie says:

      Yep, the father is probably uptight all the time, unreliable during stress or unfamiliar situations and freaks out over trivial stuff. Wife should have probably got rid of the parasite and raised the kid alone or with a new mate. It’s fortunate the offspring doesn’t seem to have acquired neuroticism from him.

  44. avatar Hannibal says:

    If this is a real situation the daughter should move out. Not only is it a case of “dad’s house, dad’s rules” but she’d be much better off on her own and away from the dumbass.

  45. avatar Cory C. says:

    In before her predictable “I now fear for my safety because gun owners disagree with me” article.

  46. avatar Robert J says:

    What do you expect from an anti-gun, anti-Trump, anti-American leftist who has a small national stage to promote her own agenda?

  47. avatar Flipper says:

    Is daddy’s penis smaller than daughter’s gun? That could be a problem for daddy!

  48. avatar John Archibald says:

    The local electronic liberal fish wrapper, bird-cage liner, “blog” (www.al.com) has been posting Amy’s “Advice” for a while now. It is drivel of the very first order. The blog is too….

  49. avatar Bruce A. Frank says:

    His right to be in a house where there is no dangerous gun? Amy sought to terrify him with apocryphal stories strongly suggesting a gun toting zombie daughter will come crashing through the bedroom door when the moon is full. Two push-ins in the hood in 11 years! Worrisome! A law abiding citizen with a gun! Comforting!

  50. avatar Mike says:

    Dumb#ss Father probably neglected to say that his daughter works late nights in a city like where I live, Downtown Chicago, where there are shootings in broad day light….one happened recently to a the police commander of my district that is the most touristed part of the city….we have shootings everyday…just signup to the app, Neighbors, and you’ll see all the nonsense that happens in downtown chicago

  51. avatar Snake Plisskin says:

    You got to wonder if that whole letter is not even true and is made-up to push “clicks” or Twitter traffic.

    I know there are people that are like “Dumb” but the whole things seems too good to be true (pushes all the right “gun safety” buttons…)

    Just a thought…

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      There’s a term called “writer’s convenience” and this father character pegs the meter. The word choice & sentence structure/pacing and hoplophobia is the same as the author’s…for some reason.

  52. avatar Ironhead says:

    Has anyone considered the notion that maybe she has the gun because shes afraid of her father?

  53. avatar dragos111 says:

    I was surprised by her claim that hollow points are illegal in 11 states. So, I Goggled “hollow point bullets are illegal in what states”. The top response comes back indicating that 11 states ban them. I bet that is all the research this Amy did. What she failed to do after that was to actually read that top response. It says,

    “Currently there are eleven states that have barred the sale or possession of armor-piercing bullets: Alabama, California, Connecticut, Indiana, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Michigan, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Texas.”

    It is very easy to overlook the fact that the response refers to armor piercing bullets, not hollow points.

    Personally, I think this makes “Amy” look pretty stupid.

    1. avatar Someone says:

      Wait, you mean that the exploding hollow point bullets are not also cop killer armor piercing? Mind blown!

  54. avatar borg says:

    This article slanders military and law enforcement since many military and law enforcement members carry the 40S&W. Any law enforcement and military members that carry the 40S&W would have standing to sue for slander and libel since the article states that the 40 caliber is a criminal weapon and thereby is implying that the law enforcement and military members are criminals which is extremely slanderous and libelous and threatens law and order as people could then potentially perceive law enforcement and military as criminals as a result.

  55. avatar BusyBeef says:

    People still read newspapers?

  56. avatar neiowa says:

    The .40 caliber S&W cartridge, meanwhile, was developed specifically for the girls in law enforcement

    1. avatar Derek Hunter says:

      …“combines storytelling with advice”….
      Pretty much covers the bases here.
      She tells a story.
      Then offers advice, bad advice, but advice none the less.
      Nowhere does that blurb suggest her aqdvice is good nor that her stories are plausible.

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