The first thing Dan and I said when we heard that multiple police officers were injured during the infamous shootout with the brothers Tsarnaev: “friendly fire.” OK, we didn’t exactly call it that. But there was no doubt in either or our minds that cops shot each other. The chances that Tamerlan Tsarnaev wounded the po-po with one handgun were lower than Liz Hurley’s neckline. And now the truth comes out about the incident. Well, some of it. Here are the bullet points from “two police sources” quoted by cnn.com . . .
— Police fired nearly 300 rounds of ammunition within five to 10 minutes as they confronted the suspects — 100 more than initially reported. And that included one round that nearly killed Massachusetts Transit Police Officer Richard Donohue. (Others bullets struck the Tsarnaev brothers, seriously injuring Dzhokhar and contributing to the death of Tamerlan.)
— Tamerlan was the only brother armed with a handgun. The only other weapons they had were the homemade explosives that police say the brothers tossed out of the hijacked vehicle, including a few that detonated.
— Police accidentally fired on an unoccupied black SUV during the mayhem. “In the chaos, an officer or trooper (or some combination of personnel) mistook it for one of the two suspect vehicles,” David Procopio of the Massachusetts State Police told CNN.
Now you could say fog of war, exigent circumstances, etc. But I’m not gonna. Not until I see the official police report on the shootout. Which could be never.
“That shoot review, which is ongoing, will include examination of any potential friendly fire incidents,” [Massachusetts State Police spoeksman [David] Procopio said. While Donohue was the only officer seriously injured in the Watertown shooting, another officer was also grazed by a bullet.”
As far as we know.
Hmmm. Attempt to move snake and risk being bitten by pissed-off animal, probably numerous times, or shoot aforementioned snake humanely then remove from property?
Different strokes for different folks. Can’t say I’d try to move it, “experience snake bite” is rarely on my daily to-do list, and I ain’t Jeff Corwin…
It seems modern LE tactics is to mag dump in hundreds along the compass bearing of the threat,and then let statistical probability do the rest.
So be it.I paid good money for the sights on my pistol,and I intend on using them should matters require it.
Seriously, why would anyone really give a f**k. I can’t believe all the idiots all up in arms in the FB comments and shocked, SHOCKED he would do such a thing.
Those of you that were born with the knowledge of Herpetology and the gift of discerning a poisonous snake vs a non poisonous snake are awesome. You can let the next one go. This is where reality sucks for you…it’s a big snake, it’s in his yard…it dies. Sorry. Get over it.
A feral cat got into my house, tore it up before I could nail it, bloody mess.
Maybe we could make a story of THAT and post it here as well, I could provide a pic of a cat and a 22 rifle
Not really a sniper as the laser doing the ranging will give your position away.
“Tracers work both ways.” – Murphy.
Someone will develop a detection system that will sit on another drone to detect the laser emission and then quickly track point a round back to the trackpointer.
Haven’t downloaded the files yet, but I may do so when I get home. Before then, can anyone tell me how this thing loads? Some type of breechlock? Do you have to take the barrel out, insert the cartridge, then reassemble?
Dumb ignorant mangina. Simple as that.
I hate the way people are careless about speech, and use their mistakes to justify their prescriptions on policy.
A gun in the home is not likely to be used in a suicide because suicide is still somewhat rare. The vast majority of guns are never used in a suicide.
There are those who say that a gun is more likely to be used for suicide than to be used to protect the home, but they come to that conclusion only because they compare the number of suicides to the number of dead bad guys. I would say, rather, that the gun protects the home each and every day, providing security and peace of mind to the inhabitants. Very rarely it must be fired, and if all houses had guns, it would be even more rarely. The value of the gun is that it deters the bad guy.
My fondest hope is that I never have to use a gun on another person because the situation never arises. But if that situation does come to pass, I would much rather be prepared. Better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.
115,000,000 households in america
50,000,000 with guns 40%
16,000 suicides by guns
Since when has 3 one hundrenths of one percent chance become “likely”
Check my facts
Nature.
There was a drunk father who was murdered by a thugscrum of cops over in California recently. A woman who had video of the murder called the same agency that the perpetrators worked for with obvious results. Most people are lazy and love authority figures. They are passive and enjoy the idea of delegating this responsibility (defense) to others.
As someone named Auntie Clymax screeched, ”So he’s proud of killing a harmless gopher snake. Yay! That just tells me he’s probably a big, cowardly pussy who beats women as well.”
Yeah well, everybody can tell who’s obviously the pussy here!
I can only speak for myself, but I live in a very low crime area and consider my chances of getting into a gun fight about as likely as being struck by lightning. However I carry to celebrate the last vestige of freedom we have in this country. I grew up assuming the most ridiculous things were illegal because most of the time they were. When I was 15 taking driver’s ed in school the teacher asked if we thought it was illegal to drive in bare feet. Most of us thought it was illegal, turned out it actually is legal in my state. But the point is that by the time you’re a teenager you just assume that such ridiculous laws are on the books and you could be punished for driving a car with your shoes off. We have our children brainwashed into sheep by their teens!
For 60 years it was illegal to brew beer in your own home for your own consumption. Fortunately Jimmy Carter managed to do one thing right. So the best beer I’ve ever tasted is the stuff I brew at home (dirt cheap too). But I’d like to try my hand at whiskey – No that’s a federal felony! You’ll do 7 years for that. And they call this a free country? You want to grow some pot for your own use? It’s none of my damn business – knock yourself out.
I think it was Socrates that said if you see two men walking down the road you can tell which one is the slave and which one is the freeman – the freeman is armed. So I have a slip of paper that says I can tuck a loaded firearm under my shirt and walk around Walmart – how cool is that? I can’t be trusted to distill a couple of gallons of whiskey but I can be trusted with a loaded gun.
In answer to your question though, I know in my case having a firearm on your person definitely makes you more aware of the potential for needing to use it. Maybe a little of both though.
I carry and
I have been struck by lightning.
No lottery win yet though.
To the question:
Carry/Aware
Aware/Carry
If you are in a loop, it doesnt matter where you enter.
Here’s my opinion, which will not sit well with some of us elitist “born sheepdogs”: It is almost entirely nurture, not nature. Your argument is that Condition Whiteys won’t carry even after a scare. Why? Because they don’t realize armed self-defense is an option. Why? Because it is not within their field of vision. If they know no one who carries or shoots and all they hear is “you’re more likely to have your own gun used against you,” what else would they think? They’re operating on the “best intel” available to them. It is not necessarily that they’re forever too frightened to take up their own defense. That’s why it’s crucial every one of us evangelize responsible self-defense instead of looking down our noses at non-CCW people. They are concealed carriers waiting to happen, given the right information, right laws and (unfortunately, sometimes) the right scares, which often involve realizing “authority” can’t or won’t help you 100% of the time.
What we need to understand about Obama care , YES it will impact on your 2A , first will be home checks under Obama care , and yes the government will class your medical conditions , not always your Dr. and doing these checks if some conditions do not meet government standards, you can loose your 2A, your medical coverage, and your disability will be classed by the FED’s not the doc,s , your children could be taken too…it goes on and on… This is real bad news, for Liberty, and you better have a gun safe and guns under lock and key… this can and will be enforced with FORCE!!!!!!!!
Taste like chicken.
How is it as a Democrat and a liberal myself, I have the capacity to understand that this person should not have been out on bond, PERIOD. I’m going for a stretch here, but I think it’s safe to say that this wasn’t a properly permitted person, legally carrying their gun and getting caught up in a bad self-defense situation. Nope, this was a gang-banger, caught illegally possessing a firearm and arrested. And because the system is too overworked with non-violent inmates, we have someone illegally possessing a gun, released…JUST SO HE CAN GO GET ANOTHER GUN AND SHOOT AT PEOPLE. And I’m willing to bet my ridiculous paycheck, that he didn’t obtain the first *OR* second firearm legally. But let’s make more laws for those that legally purchase firearms. Yup, that will do something for this type of problem.
Well, well, well…. What have we here?
Same incompetence, same reckless endangerment that we saw in LA recently… different coast.
Oh, and who is going to be paying for the cleanup, medical issues, etc? That’s right, the taxpayers. The same people who were told to sit on their asses, not making any money for a whole day, while the police got to play at being ‘operators’ in their ninja costumes.
“Gun laws that assured ZERO access to guns for bad guys would severely infringe if not eliminate law-abiding Americans’ human, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms, and thus increase crime.”
Why does it have to be black or white? I realize it will never be perfect but we can keep searching for the best possible solutions.
Left NJ years ago, glad to see I made the right decision. F YOU NJ Pols!!!! ESAD!!!
While the applause does sound like they are cheering his removal, there simply weren’t enough anti’s there to make that much noise.
I was in the overflow room, so we didn’t see the troopers actually escort him out (and the feed was muted during that time) but we did hear his testimony up to that point.
The Senator declaring him “out of order” is Norcross, and some of the legislation being debated (and shat upon by the pro-2A crowd) was written by him. That explains his grumpiness.
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