“A mother of three has died after police say her ex-boyfriend shot her multiple times in her Leesburg, Virginia, home,” nbcwashington.com reports. “[Christina] Fisher’s ex-boyfriend, 30-year-old Darrick Lee Lewis [above], was arrested and charged with murder, use of a firearm and violation of a protective order. He is being held without bond in the Loudoun County Adult Detention Center, police said.” How does a protective order protect someone from violence? The same way gun control protects someone from violence. It doesn’t. [Note: Ms. Fisher called 911 before the murder.] Condolences to Ms. Fisher’s friends and family. It should have been a defensive gun use.
Yeah, but after the protective order, it was extra illegal to shoot her dead. I am sure her friends and family will tack comfort in that extra bit of illegality, since it will clearly put the bad guy in jail for an extra few days, as long as the judge doesn’t set the sentences to run concurrently.
That’s odd, I though shooting people was illegal. Criminals just have no respect for the law.
If you want enough of those protective orders up and damp in them with water and jam them inside of us extra extra super large suit you may be able to stop a 22 caliber round Maybe? LOL Just another Criminal.I find it almost tragic pal State’s Attorney’s District attorneys Can actually say Here’s a piece of paper that’s going to protect you When in reality They have to commit another offense by breaking the protective order to go to jail. They’re going to go to jail as soon as they come over and bash your brains in or shoot you anyways. You are absolutely correct protective orders and restraining orders are as effective as gun control. They Do not work! Probably just like the this guy doesn’t work either. LOL
It has long been my contention that all Domestic Violence Protection Orders or Temporary Restraining Orders should be printed on 8 1/2 x 11 standard pistol targets, just so the recipient of the DVPO/TRO understands EXACTLY what its value is.
Alternatively I have suggested that they be silk-screened onto the front and back of a T-shirt over the image of a standard silhouette target.
Here we are again. When will society wake up and realize:
1. Domestic violence must be against the law; pass one, now
2. Possessing a deadly weapon while under a protective or restraining order must become against the law; pass one now
3. Killing someone while under a protective or restraining order must become against the law; pass one now
4. Murder must be against the law; pass one now
5. Law makes society safe; anything else is jungle chaos
All we need is a common sense law against murder.
That violation of protection is going to weigh on him for sure. I mean that’s a magic rule he violated
My condolences to the family. This is why we have guns.
So, paper doesn’t stop bullets? Huh.
In the circles I run with, it usually attracts them.
So, paper doesn’t stop bullets? Huh.
It covers rock though!
Depends entirely on the caliber and how much paper you have.
Was he an otherwise prohibited person?
When it comes to murdering people, regardless of the weapon used, I believe we are ALL prohibited persons.
As for was he “prohibited” from possessing a firearm (much less shooting his ex girlfriend with it), unless I am mis-reading the Second Amendment to The Constitution of the United States of America, any such alleged prohibition is prima facie unconstitutional. The Second Amendment has no provision for the government to designate anyone as prohibited from exercising their natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms. That’s the POINT. It’s not that the government should prohibit anyone, but that the Constitution protects the right of the ex-girlfriend and everyone else to bear arms and shoot the MF if he comes around with evil intent. Problem solved.
That is neither here nor there. The anti-gunners will use him as example. If he is a felon it would counter the propaganda. And Constitution allows the government to restrict the rights of felons.
I wonder how many times the protective order was the external stimulus (straw that broke the camel’s back, if you will) which sent the crazed spouse over the edge…
I’ve dated my fair share of cray-cray broads and they always fly off the handle the worst when you buck up to them full bore and finally leave (extinction burst.)
Basically, did he intend to kill before or after the order? I’m interest to know if, statically, the protective order presents in a way which causes more harm than good.
I think a$$hole are a$$holes and it isn’t possible to predict that “one thing” that’ll put them over the edge. It could be the protective order, getting cut off in traffic, that last drink, the “I don’t want you in my life anymore,” or Lord knows what else.
I know people who have made threats can have their CCW temporarily suspended. Does the same apply for protective orders?
Of course that’s not going to stop a bad guy from doing something criminal, but it does give the police a reason to arrest the guy if he’s found with a gun.
In any case, the potential victim should be strongly encouraged to stay armed at all times. That’s the only way to guarantee some level of protection. When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.
A female potential victim should be armed? Isn’t that just more victim blaming? Tell men not to _________ their _________. (Fill in the blanks.)
State local & federal government has no interest in protecting citizens nor allow the tools to protect themselves.
Issuance of a protective order should require disarmament of the perp along with placment a GPS tracking device that crushes the perp’s nads if he gets within 500 feet of the plaintiff.
Yes, absolutely. …and a law to shoot the bad guy with no questions asked if he violated the order…
I seem to recall reading somewhere – let me look it up – oh yeah, “…the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Also: “…nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”
You know, you can find a complete and accurate copy of the U.S. Constitution on line for free. Here, try this one:
Protective orders have real utility. Plenty of bad guys get arrested for violating a protective order before they can get in the house or hurt the victim. BUT in the end, it’s just a law. If someone is intent on murder, an order is not enough.
A protection order only protects you from people who aren’t that dangerous anyway. However, if you do have to defend yourself against a truly dangerous one, the protection order supports your claim of self defense.
Protection orders can and do protect many people from violence. The fact they don’t protect someone from experiencing all violence is No argument against their usefulness.
Protective orders help the intended victim in court after a successful self defense with firearm vs the thug with the order against them. It’s court documentation of “I was afraid for my life”.
How about this for a federal law: If you are granted a restraining order, you are instantly approved to carry a firearm in every state.
Stupid people, stupid thing etc.
Tip – Don’t screw/have multiple children by multiple men to whom you are not married, no matter how AWESOME that welfare scam appears.
Protective orders do nothing except slightly enhance the charges after the dirt bag kills the person with the misguided hopes that the protective order is actually worth something in protecting them.
She probably was a “renter/leaseholder”. According to the Pro-landlord/Property owners rights” crew here…She probably wasn’t “allowed ” to exercise her 2nd amendment rights because the Landlord prohibited it…I’m surprised anyone was able to comment about…I’m sure the “Pro-Landlord/Property Owners rights” crew would have squelched the 1st amendment as well…Since of course, their not a government entity…Their “Sovereign” land Barons, their property “Lands of Sovereignty” . They don’t have to follow any unseen constitutional rules! Their “Leaseholders ” don’t have any rights while paying rent…LOL! Okay! You people can keep on smoking whatever your smoking in your pipe! As a [email protected] supporter, I’m not playing this “Fuzzy-logic ” game…To me it looks a lot like Democratic Liberal progressive socialists are invading [email protected] groups now……