Eagle Eye Ammunition is TTAG’s official ammo sponsor for accuracy testing. That partnership happened for one simple reason: Eagle Eye is the most consistent ammunition we have ever tested, and their lot-to-lot deviation is practically nonexistent. It gives us an excellent baseline to directly compare the accuracy of different guns, which gives you readers better information when looking to buy a firearm. And now Eagle Eye wants to make that same ammo available to you readers at a discounted price.
I was extremely skeptical when I first heard the claims that they made about accuracy, but they proved it beyond a reasonable doubt and I verified the results independently with my own equipment. Now that their ammo is getting out into the market, that same data is being verified and backed up by other independent sources as well. After seeing the results, it was the TTAG team that suggested the ammo sponsorship deal and Eagle Eye was generous enough to oblige. They provide ammo, we mention their stuff when used, and they get the moniker “Official Ammo Sponsor of TTAG” — that’s the extent of the deal we made, long after the ammo testing and review were complete and published. But they decided to reach a step further and expand their generosity to you fine readers as well.
The offer: 10% off any box of ammo, and 15% off cases of ammo. The details are available here: http://www.eagleeyeammo.com/ttag
Are you boys offering a gay discount?
What, getting 10 – 20% off ammo doesn’t make you happy?
Is this in reference to RF’s response to our responses about that coffee commercial?
Context would be awesome.
And some people wonder where they get those stereotypes of gun owners from…
Looks like the discount is now 20% off cases on the link. 🙂
I realize you have to finance the site, really I do. And, being a libertarian, I don’t begrudge you your need to earn a living and prosper. But I think you should have a different area for paid-for ads versus blogging about issues implied to be gun rights or equipment reeves unbiased by money. Otherwise you blur the lien between honest reporting and POWNED-reporting? Got that? Just my humble opinion.
We don’t get any compensation for this. They wanted to offer the discount for our readers, and we didn’t ask for anything in return.
This has been a sore point for me, because often I’m reviewing something where the company either sees the review later and e-mails offering a discount to TTAG readers (like this one) or knows ahead of time that I’m about to publish a review and offers a discount to TTAG readers, and I’m too afraid to put a coupon code in the review because we’re all a fairly cynical bunch and I know what the comments will say. Frankly, for most of the gear stuff that I review I could talk the company into doing a TTAG-specific coupon code for 10-15% off through their website, but I don’t ask or I actually say “sorry, no thanks” when they offer because I know half the comments will be along the lines of “oh well this is a nice paid advertisement” etc etc… it’s not worth the perception problem even though I’m also highly motivated to save TTAGers $$$ whenever possible, too.
Maybe have a subpage that lists all of the current codes and offers and such, then, if such an offer exists as of the publish time of the review, you could link to that page from the review along with something along the lines of “the company that makes this item has offered a special discount to TTAG readers, check out our offers page. TTAG does not receive any compensation for any of the offers on our offers page.”
I thought the title of the article was pretty self-evident as to what the content was about.
In any case, the ammo’s a bit rich for my blood (and I’m not nearly good enough of a shot to warrant using it, more to the point); but this site has done enough bare-fisted reviews that I’m reasonably confident they’re not especially beholden. Bemused and bedazzled, perhaps, but that’s another matter.
On the other hand, Nick, perhaps you guys and the Eagle Eye folks might come up with a cross-feed program: for every box a reader buys, you guys get a round for testing? 🙂
It’s not even the blatant funding post that bothers me. It’s that the company offers 2 calibers. TWO!!!!???? What the hell am I going to buy, none because I don’t have those calibers. FAIL
I wouldn’t mind trying a box, but it’s too rich for me.
I’m getting 1/2″ (dime size) groups with ZQI ammo from Walmart for $10 per. 20rd. Box 147gr. .308
$10 per 30rd box 69gr. .223
I wish they made a 168gr .308
Siris, Dime size groups at what range ?
My best group with ZQI 147gr. .308 green box Walmart ammo is 1/2″ @ 100 yards.
I have pix. Heheh
It was my best group with a Remington 700 AAC-SD 1:10
20″ hbar with the Houge rubber stock. (I used a Dremel to sand a fuzz off the front of the stock to stay free floating with bipod)
$30ish bipod I picked up at Academy and home made rice bag under the rear. 3.5-12x fair to decent glass.
The honest average I consistantly get with 147gr. ZQI is between 1/2-3/4″ MOA. (Nickel size)
I haven’t measured every group, they are all well inside the
“Tactical Thumb” guage and you can punch holes in quarters and nickels with them. (If you can get them to glint in the sun) 😉
(168gr. Serria MK is her favorite so I give credit to the light weight ammo)
I am currently doing a full review of a Remington 20/20 and useing some QZI ammo for one of the tests in mildot mode. (It hit about 2″ high on its first shot fired. Had To take it out and make sure everything worked before I start testing, 😉
It’s programmed for three loads and I plan to test the ammo they sent with the rifle system, the equivalent brands of ammo, hand loads made as close to the programmed ammo as possible and with/without a Yankee Hill Phantom Can.
Not that it matters now, since Tracking Point doesn’t care anymore and Remington put it on back order then stopped selling them.
But it’s still gonna be worth it.
The reason I say all that, is the 20/20 scope’s accuracy can be set between .1moa up to 4moa.
If the scope pans out, I’ll have something I can test the accuracy of any .308 round.
I’m not good enough to hold .1 Moa but I hope a Lead Slead will be. ????
How many shots are in those groups?
3shot group for 1/2″
5shot group @5/8-3/4″
I did have one flyer out of a 20rd box.
The side of the ZQI box claims to be less than 1 MOA at 100 meters.
I’m no salesman for ZQI ammo. It is good ammo to plink with and is affordable to shoot with great accuracy for the dollar.
I’ll grab a few boxes if I don’t feel like reliading a batch, or supr of the moment range trip.
It’s worth a try at $10 box. IMO
Maybe TTAG can do a review of it and see if they get similar results?
I’ve occasionally seem 168gr on wikiarms. It’s Eastern European stuff and cheap but I haven’t personally used it.
Awesome! People helping people.
Are bullets included?
…I know! Looking at the picture, I figured out how they’re able to offer the discount.
Hey, it’s once fired!
Chicks in New York pay top dollar for that stuff…
(The last line is for Ralph… A new movie review category suggestion – “Ralph watches the Classics”)
Wow, would I love to do that!
Movie suggestion: “Deal of the Century” (1983)
“The film follows the adventures of several arms dealers that compete to sell weapons to a South American dictator.”
That’s pretty cool.
Call me broke but unless there are some 50-75% discounts I think Wolf is fine. Also don’t have their available calibers but does that really stop ttagers from stocking up:)
Word. Wolf has never been bad to me. Lot of steel-cased practice ammo, then a few mags of defensive stuff to make sure I remember the difference in octane between the two, and I’m headed home having spent considerably less dinero.
How is this better at 1.80 a round as compared to federal GMM at 1.15 a round? I get accuracy is one thing, but the market already has damned fine ammunition available.
It’s not the accuracy, per se. It’s *extreme* consistency.
Their review explains it:
I won’t be buying it for plinking, but for ‘dialing in’ a rifle I probably would run a box through it.
1) in my testing, eagle eye is FAR more accurate and consistent than GMM. eagle eye makes GMM look like plinking ammo. eagle eye is no joke!
2) eagle eye is actually AVAILABLE. you have to go chase GMM around, hope you are lucky to find some in stock. eagle eye is easily available, quickly.
1) alone justifies the price. this ammo is ASTOUNDING for factory ammo. 2) is icing on the cake.
No .300 black? Damn.
My 5 shot chrono results through a 20″ Remington 700 LTR .308 were:
It’s expensive, but accurate and consistent. I’m glad TTAG is using this ammo. I hope they make a 300 grain .338 Lapua load soon.
Thanks TTAG, thank you too Eagle Eye. (Continue to rock-on with your bad selves.)
I’m even grateful there are many users of powder, keep the nations ammo stocks this side of thick, smooth supply ripples, and + accuracy, and a discount to boot. Thanks again.
Ridiculously expensive. I get close to that level of consistency reloading here at the house.
Don’t get me wrong, I like a good deal every once in awhile. But I could never justify spending that much on ammunition, even after their discount.
Getting the point on consistency and accuracy, but is there any info on the drag coefficient/ballistics of this ammo? Could not find it at their website. It seems as they are using a bullet of their own design, so it does not seem appropriate to use data from a SMK 175gr bullet…
If y’all think this is expensive, you’ve obviously never looked at the price af Lapua Scenar ammo. 😀 😀 😀
It cost me a dollar every time I say the word Lapua. Heheh
Same thing with corvette or boat.. Lol
Ouch! If I bought that my ass would hurt for a week!
(because my wallet is in my back pocket) lol