Remington is gearing up to show off their brand new 20/20 line of rifles at SHOT Show this year, the rifle that combines TrackingPoint’s wonder scope with Remington’s ballistic manufacturing capabilities. We weren’t expecting to see one before next week, but during a trip to the Austin Cabela’s store we stumbled across this Remington 20/20 in their gun library. And up close it just looks…well, terrible. I wasn’t impressed in the least. Anyway, we’ll put the rifle through its paces at SHOT Show and let you know how it actually works.
Biden is the Court Jester. Moron.
Any questions.
I bet Sudafed, through conversion to meth, contributes to significantly more death and injury than “assault weapons” as defined by DiFi.
Does this mean Mrs. Watt’s disagrees with President Obama’s executive action to deny re-entry of US made WWII relics, like the M1, or M1a? Of the 2,000 “exempt” firearms on Feinsteins AWB (most of which are not AW’s, per their own definition), the M1 and M1a are listed as being OK.
I carry the M&P .40c
I love this gun for concealed carry and I would consider carrying the 9mm (If someone would buy me one)..
I also carry a SR 1911 when I’m in the mood or My M&P Fullsize .40
Pistols are used by PD as back up when the SHTF to get back to their long rifle or shotgun.
I say practice, carry a pistol that you are confident with, and you’ll be fine..
So many drama queens here.
They drummed up some positive PR while at the same time making a decision to not sell to Pakistan.
The only question that matters; Why does this bother you?
Because if it does, I find it ironic you are busting on them for manufactured drama. =/
I wish more companies would be “Merica” now a days.
You guys are a bunch of retards – you bust on someone for not showing pride in our country, then when they do you pull the “Merica” insult.
Saw that at the Buda Cabela’s a couple months ago….was not too impressed for the $5k price tag. Could have put it on a better rifle.
Show me where I can buy it for less than a Glock 19, and I may buy one.
I took one of these to the range last fall; after 7 rounds, the entire ejector assembly fell off. I was sent a replacement about a month ago and need to get it to the range and test it out. These are beautiful revolvers on the outside but not sure about accuracy and durability in the long run. Both revolvers had scratch marks on cylinder from what I believe to be rough spots on the inside of frame.
Amazing.
Now this here’s an accurate definition for ‘gun-nut’.
I look at what happened to Mr. Metcalf through the lenses of kid (in my late 20’s but still not very wise lol) who got my degree in political science and has spent the last 7 years working in public relations. With that in mind I believe what has happened to Mr. Metcalf is a classic case of “partial blindness” that I have seen a thousand times in political debates.
When it comes to things like “RIGHTS” people are always very protective of their own rights, but too often willing to give up someone else’s rights. Metcalf represented the community of hunters that within the 2A community have sometimes been guilty of being willing to budge on the rights of any guns that aren’t important in the world of game hunting.
I myself was introduced to guns because of hunting with my dad, and as i grew up i myself often thought… we don’t need machine guns to hunt deer…so i don’t mind if they’re made illegal. Today I realize how wrong this type of thinking is…and it applies to all of our rights just as much…
All of our freedoms and liberties…our freedom to say what we believe, read and write what we think, and practice the religion of our choosing DEPEND on the basic tenet that in order for me to be free to do what i want and practice what i believe, i must also accept the rights of others to say what they want even if i do not agree with it…and furthermore I must be willing to defend the rights of those whose point of view I disagree with.
Those who are willing to give up half their rights in order to keep the other half will eventually learn that path is a slippery slope that will eventually LEAD to having ALL of our rights taken away. If the hunters and sportsmen allow the guns that seem too “tactical” and “military” to be taken away… their long guns will be next because the protectionists on the left will NOT STOP until our whole society is disarmed.
I’m glad that Dick got fired because it at shows that as a community we can police ourselves and it adds to our credibility in my opinion. As someone who attended more than a few TEA PARTY rallies here in California during a time when news stations like MSNBC and CNN were sending camera crews out to specifically find the ONE GUY holding an overtly racist sign or wearing the insane t-shirt and trying to make it look like that person represented the whole community. We had organizers make SURE that people who did not represent our views were asked to leave and pointed out people who did not represent our policies… we have to do that in the gun community too and it is a team effort. I am glad to read all the posts from people on this site giving their opinions because we truly need that.
Sweet, no more Gas Face!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYp28tEAVvs
Nick you think the Hi-Point C9 is on the low end of the scale? It’s a huge upgrade over my Cobra CA380 that was $104 hahaha https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/12/jeremy-s/gun-review-cobra-ca380-cheapest-handgun-america/
BTW it’s still going strong. I put 16 rounds of Buffalo Bore +P through it and it ran through all of it without a hitch and without blowing up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvknAB4tssE). So… torture test #2 will have to happen.
I have NEVER been so ashamed of a firearms company in all my life. If ever there was a need for a country tail-whoopin, a lot of folks went out of their way to earn this one.
http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and … n2020.aspx
The rifle itself is alright. It is a standard 700 in 308. Other than the words “Tactical 1/10 Rifling” stamped down the right side of the barrel, it is a regular 700 with a 9 pound trigger and a Hogue stock facsimile.
“But what about that 10 pound piece of optics on top?” You ask???? Lemme tell ya.
It is an all digital scope. There is NO direct view through the scope. If you sit in a movie theater and try to watch the show through a 2 inch piece of PVC pipe, you have your view through this “optic”. The eye relief is a generous 1 inch. Thank goodness Remington hasn’t put this on their 338 Rem Ultra Mag. (No Remington, Bad Touch!)
The image is grey scale image and never ever clears up crisp. Using the bright orange diamond targets with the large diamond and posts in the middle and 4 other smaller diamonds on the corners, I could see the targets well at 100 yards, but at 300 they were all a blur. Best I ever got the scope to clean up was I could make out one solid orange blur at 300 with white corners around it.
Since this is an all digital scope, it will go to 21 power magnification or so. That is about as practical on a hunting rifle as trying to blow bubbles with fingernail clippers, but eh, you don’t have to use it. This rifle is supposedly “Ammunition matched” to three different loads using Remington factory loadings. IIRC, there was a softpoint load, a Barnes load and a Remington 168 Match load. We were using the 168 Match load.
“Congratulations, your new Remington rifle was zeroed at the factory by our trained professionals and should not need any additional sighting in.”
By whom, Helen Keller? At 100 yards, after taking 30 minutes to figure out what buttons to push to even begin to work that joke of a scope the rifle printed two inches low and two inches left. Now get this!!!! To re zero the scope, we have to get an APP (Yeah, a phone app) to tell us how to zero the scope!
Are these folks so daft that they just love the smell of their own farts and think they are smart? I mean every time they do anything and hear a bell go off they have to reflexively respond “Ding, fries are done.”
The scope has two owners manuals. Yep, two. What could possibly be written in them that is so important? Nothing. Not a blanket blank thing. There is one page with how to operate the laser range finder, two pages or so on different views you can toggle to in the scope and the rest is advertising and telling you if you have any other problems, please send it back to the factory. Problem with that is….. Hahaha…. It is in a pelican case that is 6 inches thick, two feet wide and 6 feet long. Really? Every time I have an issue (wich is undoubtedly inevitable) I have to pay 150 dollars to ship this gigantic thing back insured?
“Remington technology allows for more precise shot placement at long distances making that once in a lifetime chance at a long distance trophy possible.”
No, you allow people without the desire, knowledge, skills or abilities to think they are long range snipers or something and it will result in wounded game and injured hunters who were mistaken for game because the idiot behind the scope could not definitively make out what they were shooting at.
Not only does this kit take up half my truck bed, weigh around 12 pounds for the rifle and scope, require the use of two nickel something batteries and is WiFi capable, but you cannot hold the rifle with two hands and still work the optic. Cannot and will not happen.
The basic operation of the scope is supposed to go like this according to Remington manuals.
1. Pack this thing into the woods and locate game.
2. Turn on the scope and wait for it to boot up. Takes around 30 seconds.
3. Input wind values, acquire target and use range finder.
4. Once target is ranged, a red dot will appear where you determine you want your shot to land. The red dot will remain unless target is lost from view in the scope. Then you get to start over with the range finder bit.
5. When the target dot is aligned with the crosshairs, the crosshairs will turn red indicating you are in your “kill radius” that is factory set at 2 MOA. If you are off your kill radius, the crosshairs will remain blue.
6. Turn on “record” feature so all your friends can watch your crappy shooting skills live via WiFi.
7. Attempt to pull small lever that 100 years ago used to be called a trigger before lawyers got ahold of it and watch your beautiful trophy whitetail deer get shot through the guts because you took a shot you were dang sure not qualified or experienced to take and you ought to have your tail whooped for trying but don’t worry cause you don’t have the ethics to go track it down and finish it because you are so embarrassed and even if you did, you would never work that piece of junk in time to put another bullet in it at a closer range.
You must have had a prototype and not know how
Tob hold it.
My 700 rem 20″ 1:10 w/hogue stock
Remington 20/20 is in color in daylight. You take the sun shade off at dawn or dusk and you focus the shot view screen to your vision before you try to zoom.
The trigger is set to 3.5 lb from factory.
Once you tag a target if you hold the tag button for three secs. It uses image stabilation so you aren’t so jerky. Or you could back it out of 21x at 100 yd.
at 12x this rifle will put three .308 SMK rounds in a dime size group. I’d post the pic but idk how heh
You can’t be pre biased on a new system and shoot it once and have a good enough opinion bout it to be so poo poo
I not like this new dangled wiz bang bleepy thing.
Ecpecially if you use a shooter app or ballistic calculator.
Ray if you are that much against it why did you buy one?