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Silencer Shop Posts Epic Comment On Proposed NFA Rule Changes

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The Silencer Shop (www.silencershop.com) has been a major online player in the silencer business for several years, and just opened a brand new storefront in Austin, Texas that focuses on, strangely enough, silencers. Cans are big business here in Texas. It’s now legal to hunt anything you want with them here and where most shooting is done on private ranches where disturbing the neighbors is something you try to avoid. Naturally, the Silencer Shop is wary of the impending rule changes that the ATF is proposing that would grant the local sheriff the ability to deny all citizens in their jurisdiction the ability to purchase a device that would otherwise be perfectly legal. So they too have submitted a comment and it’s one of epic proportions. I suggest you read the whole thing, but here’s the money shot . . .

“The NFA’s CLEO requirement must be put in perspective. While a federal application to operate a nuclear reactor is blindingly voluminous, covering topics ranging from reactor security to environmental impact, the 10,000-plus-page application does not require a single CLEO certification. The federal application to handle, distribute, or manufacture substances such as cocaine, heroin, and MDMA under the Controlled Substances Act requires no CLEO certification. The USDA license to breed, own, and exhibit dangerous wild animals such as lions and tigers likewise contains no CLEO certification requirement. While some believe it is an oversimplification to state that “guns don’t kill people,” nuclear meltdowns, cocaine, and wild tigers clearly do kill people. Criminal history and mental stability are undeniably-relevant factors for consideration of applications to participate in such dangerous and highly-regulated activities. Yet, the responsible agencies have been able to analyze and regulate such applications—even within the all-encompassing context of a 10,000-page application to operate a nuclear reactor—without resorting to certifications from local or state chief law enforcement officials.”

Yeah, that pretty much sums up how dumb the ATF’s CLEO sign-off requirement is here in the real world.

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  1. New York City is being used as a test bed again. First it was soda now with guns. In the Heller decision they up held the Miller decision which says that firearms that are of use to the military are protected by the 2nd Amendment. You the people of New York have to stop this. If you don’t them it will signal that the leaders can simple pencil whip away our rights.

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    • come said revolution, many will be making workable silencers in their garages, basements, and yes, workshops. It’s not a difficult technology to work with, not at all. Steel wool, window screen, lithium grease, a tube of some sort, freeze caps, perhaps some jb weld, you’ll be well on your way.

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  2. no one in the us has ever died from a nuclear meltdown as non have ever occurred in our country
    FYI three mile island was not a meltdown. otherwise a good comment the ATF is as a whole a stain on the second amendment

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  3. Tom in Oregon has all sorts of neat toys. I wouldn’t put it past him to have a tank. I gotta wait 10 days for a shotgun and in Oregon they just drop tanks on the side of the road.

    As for kapo bloomberg. As long as he’s got millions to spend he’ll matter. Maybe we’ll get lucky and some greedy relative will have him declared incompetent and take control of his affairs. Or just knock him off for the inheritence. Either way we win.

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    • Didn’t you hear? They gave Tom an MRAP as a gift when he retired from the force. I mean, they’ve just got the things laying around.

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  4. I just built something almost exactly like this, but several hundred dollars cheaper and likely not quite as good quality. Still works, though, and with the sig brace I just installed, it’s as close as I can get to an SBR in WA. And it’s awesome.

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  5. In the first sentence in the larger comic, is the substitution of the contraction for “you are” in place of “your” (Ma’am, I think you do not realize we are you are greatest protection…) intentional to show that the cop is stupid?

    THERE IS NO APOSTROPHE IN ANY POSSESSIVE PRONOUN!

    Rich Grise,
    Self-Appointed Chief,
    Internet Apostrophe Police

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    • Back in my undergrad days (before Al Gore’s internet had caught on) I would take turns with my roommate donning the heroic cloak of the Mad Apostrophizer. We’d use our handy Sharpies to surreptitiously re- or de-apostrophize posters all over campus — there were plenty that needed it — and sign our handiwork “The Mad Apostrophizer strikes again! You’re welcome.”

      Ah, the halcyon days of youthful nerds…

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  6. Robbers, thieves, rapists and murders will seek out isolated retreats, because of there isolation

    ——————————-
    The logic there is as a bad as the grammar.

    Seeking out something isolated means you have to have some idea that it exists. It’s simply not cost effective for people to spend days going down dirt roads in the hope there is something there to loot.

    Living off a freeway with your nearest neighbor a mile away isn’t being remote. People driving by know where you live.

    Remote is the end of a three mile dirt road with 15 dead ends on the route, and the entrance to that dirt road is 10 miles to the nearest town with a population over 100, and there are dozens of such old logging entrances.

    Unless you’ve been there before, you’re not going to find the place.

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  7. “Most of the supposed “hordes” will die in place waiting on the government to come in and rescue them.”

    Truer words have never been spoken.

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  8. I agree on the cost thing. If you want the AAC rig, pick up an AAC upper for about a grand or so, then mate it to a lower you build with a pistol buffer tube. Total cost should be less than $1,400 even with the AAC upper. And you can buy someone else’s upper and save a few more hundred.

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  9. I swear these idiots think that guns are the root of violence. Guns are a symptom of a deep flaw in human nature. But that flaw has been there since Cain killed Able. There is an aspect of humanity that is a drive to commit violence more completely and efficiently upon victims and the shotgun is nothing more than another link in the long chain from the first rock used to crush a skull, to the club, to the sword, the grenade, the cluster bomb and all the way on up to whatever is the cutting edge of human demise.

    The ONLY thing that makes guns special is they sit in the sweet spot of effectiveness to training ratios that allows a stay at home wife of 100 lbs to be as efficiently and brutally violent as the 200 lb, drug addled rapist who just smashed in her sliding glass door and entered the living room. The sweet spot that gave a group of fed up civilians a fighting chance against a royal government that would rather shoot them all than allow them to choose for themselves what to pay taxes on. (we may have only won the revolutionary war because the french helped us out, but they only helped us out because we were doing as well as we were).

    Fore firearms to be a detriment to society as a whole it would require us as a people to be so universally ruthless and violent that we would not care one iota about a school full of kids massacred at the hands of a sad, pathetic, lone psychopath.

    The fact that we do feel empathy for the victims of such events and have an emotional desire to prevent such tragedies means we as a species can be trusted to keep our guns in reserve as our last resort against criminal violence far more often than we use them to commit that violence in the first place. Which is why so many guns will go their entire existence never being so much as pointed at another human being.

    The face that we care about the families affected by Sandy Hook means gun control can only do more harm than good. For gun control to have a positive effect would require us to be so comfortable with casual violence that we would never care to stop it in the first place.

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  10. You know, it’s kind of funny that for being a gun control paradise, when I visited Oahu there were people on every corner handing out fliers with a decked out AR saying “COME SHOOT REAL GUNS!” They were advertising a couple ranges to entice the horde of Japanese tourists to come shoot, and pump money into the hawaiian economy at the same time. I bet the hawaiian government has no issues with that if it means more cash.

    Hypocrites.

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  11. Racism is a great trick of progressivism. By convincing entire groups of people that they are somehow inferior causes in them, at some level, a belief that indeed they are. And they will look to you for a hand up. They will rely it, and you will count on them relying on it. Being able to provide that hand up earns trust which, in our system of government, correlates to power.

    I am firm believer in the creed that this nation was founded on: All men are created equal. CREATED equal. Where you go from there is entirely on you.

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  12. I, for one, would be perfectly comfortable with felons owning firearms as per the 2nd Amendment for the following reasons:

    1) They aren’t the best gun safety experts. Just looking at this selfie makes me wonder how they DIDN’T shoot themselves. I may or may not secretly wish they did. Maybe.
    2) The 2nd Amendment would reduce their numbers rather fast.

    “Shall not be infringed” is very clear for the non-American I am… Felons should be in danger for their lives by their very lifestyle and occupational choices. Branding yourself as a “thief” should be a pretty clear sign to tell everyone else “Please shoot me in the face” and come out of it perfectly unscathed on the legal point of view.

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  13. FACT: Concealed carry killers were involved in at least 386 fatal incidents since May 2007. #MomsDemandAction

    According to an MSNBC article in 2010 6 there were approx. 6 million licensed concealed carry holders(Assuming there are more now, but I’ll use the lower number for the benefit of the doubt), and according to the bloomberg article about “American Gun Deaths to Exceed Traffic Fatalities by 2015” since 2007 there have been approx 224,000 gun related deaths. The population of the US is 313.9M. So by those statistics(Half being “Anti-Gun” statistics) Concealed carry holders are 0.0061% likely to cause a fatal gun incident while the rest of the US Pop. are 0.072% likely to cause one. “11x more likely!!!”(using the emotional enthusiasm of MDA). By these statistics and a loose interpretation of reality, if the entire United States had CCPs there would have only been 19,147 deaths over the 6 year period. We should just issue everyone in the US a CCP and gun related fatalities will drop by 91%!!!(MDA emotional emphasis added)

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  14. “Well, It Worked for a While…”
    Until *what*? Until they were disarmed?

    Until the government convinced them they weren’t competent to make their own decisions?

    Sounds familiar somehow….

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  15. @ Chris75

    “They” can vote to take my guns all they want.

    “They” can even repeal the 2nd Amendment.

    I will vote WITH MY GUNS and other skills against them.

    Cowards like you are one of the primary reasons our liberty is in the sad state it is today.

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  16. Can’t help but point out that nobody has ever died from the meltdown of a Western nuclear reactor. It weakens their argument in my mind, even though I agree with the point they’re trying to make

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  17. I’ve carried Critical Defense 9mm in my P290 and have only one negative thing to say about the combination: The flat-nose conical projectile in the Critical Defense WILL misfeed most of the time if the slide-lock is used as a slide-release. Slingshot the slide and everything is golden. Round-nose FMJ will feed with either action.

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    • Feeds fine in a Glock 19. But I guess that’s like saying that if you drop something it will fall toward the center of the Earth.

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  18. You mention the gun laws, what about the self-defense laws?

    It seems to me that English laws would incarcerate you merely for owning a firearm with the intent to use it for self-defense.

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